Three die in fire. Marijuana grow op ...

Three die in fire. Marijuana grow op found in basement

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klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#1 Apr 10, 2008
Lower mainland BC news states that 3 bodies were found close to the front door. The remnants of a grow op were found in the basement. It is not known whether the grow op contributed to the fire.

sounds like 2 younger victims with an adult.

That would be sad if it was a family trying to stay above water by making an illegal income lured by the profits on an easy to grow plant.

Although the government, and sympathetic conservatives will try to blame this on the victims, painting it as a just reward to crime "Drug Production" or growing a plant enjoyed by millions of Canadians ina benign safe way.

I sure hope it wasn't a parent and children.

If people were allowed to grow their own supply in their gardens or buy a supply at the Cannabis Control Board of BC, then there would be not unsafe about it.

Not even with figures from their own Coroners concerning the evidence of highway fatalities where the deceased drivers were tested for substances, can the Government prove that Marijuana is a problem causing accidents on our roads.

Believe you me that they have been test for Cannabis for decades as they have for alcohol, but although the alcohol statistics are released in full, only anecdotal incidents have been released in specific cases where political spin was to made.

You can bet that if the conservatives had those figures to release they would be making hay with them.

But still this is a sad event, three dead because of the farce of prohibiting a plant that can be safely grown outside, safely.

Since: Apr 07


#2 Apr 10, 2008
Klaus, I agree with you on this one. It is time for pot to be decrminalized in some capacity.

But I don't latch onto the "prove it causes road fatalities" arguement etc.. We've talked about that before that some people have better tolerance levels, potentcy of pot etc...and you'll never convince or gain respect from the "pot is evil" side. You'll never convince those folks that under the influence of anything driving is perfectly safe.

I just get sick and tired of watching the news etc..of a pot bust or talking to people who hate pot users and yet they suck back on their beers.
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#3 Apr 10, 2008
You are right about being effected differently, but under most circumstances I have never been anxious sitting in the passenger seat while someone drove while toking.

Whereas I won't get into a vehicle with somnmeone who has been drinking.

In the tens of thousands of hours spent driving and or being driven under the influence not once in my experience did anyone display impaired operation of a motor vehicle.

While often I see the poorest of driving, people stopping where there is no stop sign, peolpe not yielding the right of way with middle aged respectable looking drivers.

Again I know that there is a wide range of abilities in the human range, but given all things as being equal you'll not be able to tell by objective double blind driver testing, who has smoked a joint and who hasn't.

Also, the only way to determine the truth of whether Marij8uana affects drivers adversely doesn't need to be argued if we had those figures, paid for by public funds, before us.

Until government can prove to me otherwise, knowing the propensity to lie, I will have to evaluate using only my experiences and those in my circle.

People who smoke Marijuana, are amongst the safest drivers on the roads, is what I know the facts to be.

This I will believe until the government supplies the data for a different perspective


#4 Apr 14, 2008
That would be sad if it was a family trying to stay above water by making an illegal income lured by the profits on an easy to grow plant.

Actually misinformation makes ones make a stupid statement like this.

Most people who grow to sell pot are not doing it to supplement a meager income, or anything else in that manner. Most do it for an easy profit, little work, effort, usually done by welfare bums, that are too lazy to work anyways. Has nothing to do with supplementing an income. That kind of logic has to come from a ne'er do well, and of the same lazy makeup that most growers are. Lazy.
One crop depending on size and number of plants can weild thousands of tax free dollars.
There are hippies in the area where I live, that grow all summer, then go to Yelapa to winter. I think this is wrong, and hope that one day they all get caught, down in Mexico of course.
I (and my whole family) make my money honestly, and have done quite well with some hard knocks along the way, but that just builds strength and character. Growing pot for profit is the easy way out, it is weak.
Then you have the ones that grow just enough for personal use, so they can save a buck. That is fine with me, but those that make a good living at it,piss me off. They are the lazy no goods.
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#5 Apr 14, 2008
The grow op seems not to have been the cause of the fire.

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