Harper's cabinet mulls massive Chinese resource project in Arctic

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Some time in the new year, four federal ministers are to decide how to conduct an environmental review for the Izok Corridor proposal.

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Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#370 Jan 26, 2013
Canada is intelligent...i really like C'C!

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#372 Jan 27, 2013
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
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Casualties....
United States
58,220 dead;[A 2] 303,644 wounded[A 2]
China
1,446 dead; 4,200 wounded
AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA Yep, typical propagandist, only tell half the story.
The Chinese military involvement was limited to military advisors, AA units and some engineering battalions.

The CIA had estimated there were about 15,000 Chinese serving in Vietnam in advisory, technical and garrison capacities, NOT as combat troops.

In fact nowhere does it say that Chinese soldiers fought as combat troops in Vietnam.
Canadians Love Anal Sex

Bogotá, Colombia

#373 Jan 27, 2013
Everyday another canadian is found trying to sneak in to a elementary school without any pants on.

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#375 Jan 28, 2013
Cana wrote:
Canada is intelligent...i really like C'C!
Unlike you, little retard. <¦-o
fuzzy old canada

Kansas City, MO

#376 Jan 28, 2013
according to new surveys, canada has the most number of gays per 100,000 in the world. this explains why they just have a picture of their butt on their drivers license. and the strange thing is people can recoignise them by their butt.

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#377 Jan 28, 2013
RESISTANCE DISTORTS THE TRUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
^ example of a stupid white trash who just lost a debate....
yes lets go to war because we owe China money... fcuken retard.... who the hell would be dumb enough to lend you money after that....
btw RETARD.... these days China has nukes too... enough to destroy the world 1 time over...
even though they kicked your a$$$ in Korea....
such stupid white trash aMERICAN
btw if your going to use a "how many people killed metric" when you had land, air and sea superiority in Korea
Vietnam war
Casualties....
United States
58,220 dead;[A 2] 303,644 wounded[A 2]
China
1,446 dead; 4,200 wounded
More commie bullshit, from a stilted little China man. <¦-o
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#378 Jan 28, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA Yep, typical propagandist, only tell half the story.
The Chinese military involvement was limited to military advisors, AA units and some engineering battalions.
The CIA had estimated there were about 15,000 Chinese serving in Vietnam in advisory, technical and garrison capacities, NOT as combat troops.
In fact nowhere does it say that Chinese soldiers fought as combat troops in Vietnam.
big mouth talker...

just making a point... since most people on your side talk about kill ratios...

like the Korean war forgetting that other troops died in the Korean war too..

and how using kill ratios is a poor metric when it comes to war...like the Vietnam war

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Additionally the Chinese anti-aircraft artillery troops, peaking at a total of 17 divisions and 150,000 men in 1967, would claim credit for downing 1,707 U.S. aircraft over North Vietnam.

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/20thcent...

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Vietnam War

Strength
China: 170,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#380 Jan 30, 2013
I like how you guys quote all the planes you shot down. In the Korean War NK and China shot more planes down than were actually sent there lol

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#381 Jan 30, 2013
RESISTANCE IS A CHI COM wrote:
<quoted text>
big mouth talker...
just making a point... since most people on your side talk about kill ratios...
like the Korean war forgetting that other troops died in the Korean war too..
and how using kill ratios is a poor metric when it comes to war...like the Vietnam war
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Additionally the Chinese anti-aircraft artillery troops, peaking at a total of 17 divisions and 150,000 men in 1967, would claim credit for downing 1,707 U.S. aircraft over North Vietnam.
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/20thcent...
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Vietnam War
Strength
China: 170,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
Too bad we didn't kill more of your comrades, little pig. How's the air smell in Beijing, slave? BTW have you voted lately, slob? <¦-o
Becky

Macau, Macau

#382 Jan 30, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Too bad we didn't kill more of your comrades, little pig. How's the air smell in Beijing, slave? BTW have you voted lately, slob? <¦-o
The reason the air in Beijing smells bad is because they've taken all your industry. You're left with a hollow economy that could collapse in on itself at any time.
Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#383 Jan 30, 2013
The arctic now that it's possible to access underwater resources...should be treated much the same way as Antarctica.

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#384 Jan 30, 2013
Becky wrote:
<quoted text>
The reason the air in Beijing smells bad is because they've taken all your industry. You're left with a hollow economy that could collapse in on itself at any time.
All it takes, is a new administration to put forth business friendly policies and new industry would start up in America. Contrary to what your political philosophies lend you to believe it's not a finite resource, that's there's only so much of. <¦-o

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#385 Jan 30, 2013
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
<quoted text>
big mouth talker...
just making a point... since most people on your side talk about kill ratios...
like the Korean war forgetting that other troops died in the Korean war too..
and how using kill ratios is a poor metric when it comes to war...like the Vietnam war
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Additionally the Chinese anti-aircraft artillery troops, peaking at a total of 17 divisions and 150,000 men in 1967, would claim credit for downing 1,707 U.S. aircraft over North Vietnam.
Soooo basically 150,000 REMFs. You left out the part where none of the Chinese troops were used south of the 21st parallel.
Then the numbers game. It took 150,000 Chinese to shoot down 1700-3400 pilots. Hell, that was an average week for the Germans in WW2 sans the technology.

Now, of the number shot down, 110 were choppers which means they weren't brought down by Chinese manned SAMs. Considering the US flew 5.25 million sorties over North and South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, we can also assume other combat losses weren't Chinese inflicted. On top of that, it's a loss ratio of approximately 0.4 per 1000 sorties. Compare that to the horrendous losses in WW2 where the USAAF had a loss ratio of 9.7/1000 sorties.

The US would take a 0.4/1000 loss ratio every day of the week and 3 times on Sunday.

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#386 Jan 31, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
Soooo basically 150,000 REMFs. You left out the part where none of the Chinese troops were used south of the 21st parallel.
Then the numbers game. It took 150,000 Chinese to shoot down 1700-3400 pilots. Hell, that was an average week for the Germans in WW2 sans the technology.
Now, of the number shot down, 110 were choppers which means they weren't brought down by Chinese manned SAMs. Considering the US flew 5.25 million sorties over North and South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, we can also assume other combat losses weren't Chinese inflicted. On top of that, it's a loss ratio of approximately 0.4 per 1000 sorties. Compare that to the horrendous losses in WW2 where the USAAF had a loss ratio of 9.7/1000 sorties.
The US would take a 0.4/1000 loss ratio every day of the week and 3 times on Sunday.
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watch ur butt in canada

Songkhla, Thailand

#387 Jan 31, 2013
A huge number of engineering companies have been busy making iron guard plates for the back of mens trousers to stop them getting rammed by randy canadians. its become a real problem and foreign visitors arent used to such things.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#388 Jan 31, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Too bad we didn't kill more of your comrades, little pig. How's the air smell in Beijing, slave? BTW have you voted lately, slob? <¦-o
loudmouth Americans got your A$$$ kicked by the Chinese in KOREA, and VIETNAM'''
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#389 Jan 31, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
Soooo basically 150,000 REMFs. You left out the part where none of the Chinese troops were used south of the 21st parallel.
Then the numbers game. It took 150,000 Chinese to shoot down 1700-3400 pilots. Hell, that was an average week for the Germans in WW2 sans the technology.
Now, of the number shot down, 110 were choppers which means they weren't brought down by Chinese manned SAMs. Considering the US flew 5.25 million sorties over North and South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, we can also assume other combat losses weren't Chinese inflicted. On top of that, it's a loss ratio of approximately 0.4 per 1000 sorties. Compare that to the horrendous losses in WW2 where the USAAF had a loss ratio of 9.7/1000 sorties.
The US would take a 0.4/1000 loss ratio every day of the week and 3 times on Sunday.
still dosent change the fact that the Chinese were involved in the conflict... you just like to pretend american never bombed North of the 21st parallel....

and those Chinese troops wouldnt specifically be sitting ducks...for retaliatory strikes..

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A Wild Weasel was an aircraft originally concepted by the United States Air Force under a program headed by General Kenneth Dempster in 1965 after the introduction of Soviet SAM missiles and their downing of U.S. strike aircraft over the skies of North Vietnam.[1] These aircraft were specially equipped with radar seeking missiles, and tasked with destroying the radars and SAM installations of enemy air defense systems.[2][3]
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#390 Jan 31, 2013
BTW look at you Whisgean Zoda....

talking kill ratios against rice farmers in the Vietnam war...
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#391 Jan 31, 2013
my point is this kill ratios are a poor metric...

it dosent matter what the kill ratio is... if you dont get the job done, or fulfill your objectives in going to war in the first place...

it only matters when you can wipe their kind off the face of this earth... kill every man woman and child...genocide a race of people or a country till there is no living soul....

like America did with the Philippines killing women and children until the Filipinos gave up and quit their guerrilla war in the 1900s

something stupid americans continue to not learn even today

as much as an american soldier like to kill the child of a insurgent they just martyred they cant.... they have to wait until the child grows up and picks up a gun or straps on a bomb... then they can shoot them...

because these days America has its rules of engagement, there are war crimes, crimes against humanity and tribunals

thats why these days america is still tucking tail and running in places like Iraq

and will do so in Afghanistan...

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Deadly Iraq war ends with exit of last U.S. troops
By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN)-- Early Sunday, as the sun ascended to the winter sky, the very last American convoy made its way down the main highway that connects Iraq and Kuwait.

The military called it its final "tactical road march." A series of 110 heavily armored, hulking trucks and Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles carrying about 500 soldiers streamed slowly but steadily out of the combat zone.

A few minutes before 8 a.m., the metal gate behind the last MRAP closed. With it came to an end a deadly and divisive war that lasted almost nine years, its enormous cost calculated in blood and billions.

Some rushed to touch the gate, forever a symbol now of an emotional, landmark day. Some cheered with the Army's ultimate expression of affirmation: "Hooah!"

"It's hard to put words to it right now," said Lt. Col. Jack Vantress.
"It's a feeling of elation," he said, "to see what we've accomplished in the last eight-and-a-half years and then to be part of the last movement out of Iraq."
Once, when hundreds of thousands of Americans were in Iraq, the main highway was better known as Main Supply Route Tampa and soldiers trekked north towards Baghdad and beyond, never knowing what danger lurked on their path.

On this monumental day, the Texas-based 3rd Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 1st Cavalry Division's main concern was how to avoid a traffic jam on their final journey in Iraq.

Staff Sgt. Daniel Gaumer, 37, was on this road in August 2003. It was his first time at war. He was frightened.

There was not a lot of traffic at that time, he recalled. He remembered a lot of cheering by Iraqis, even though the situation was tense.

Sunday morning, the air was decidedly different.
"It's pretty historic," he said about the drive south, hoping he will not ever have to come back through this unforgiving terrain again.

Once there were bases sprinkled in the desolate desert between Nasiriya and Basra, American soldiers hidden from view behind walls of giant mesh Hesco bags filled with dirt and sand to stave off incoming fire.

On this day, the roads, the bases were in Iraqi hands, the sands in the bags returned to the earth.

Once, almost nine years ago in March 2003, U.S. tanks and armored personnel carriers had thundered north, with the drive and determination needed to decapitate a dictator.

On this day, heading south towards Khabari border crossing, the soldiers took stock of their sacrifice.

In another war, there had been little joy or even emotion as final jet transports lifted Americans from Vietnamese soil.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/17/world/meast/ira...
Cana

Burnaby, Canada

#392 Jan 31, 2013
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
my point is this kill ratios are a poor metric...
it dosent matter what the kill ratio is... if you dont get the job done, or fulfill your objectives in going to war in the first place...
it only matters when you can wipe their kind off the face of this earth... kill every man woman and child...genocide a race of people or a country till there is no living soul....
like America did with the Philippines killing women and children until the Filipinos gave up and quit their guerrilla war in the 1900s
something stupid americans continue to not learn even today
as much as an american soldier like to kill the child of a insurgent they just martyred they cant.... they have to wait until the child grows up and picks up a gun or straps on a bomb... then they can shoot them...
because these days America has its rules of engagement, there are war crimes, crimes against humanity and tribunals
thats why these days america is still tucking tail and running in places like Iraq
and will do so in Afghanistan...
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Deadly Iraq war ends with exit of last U.S. troops
By Moni Basu, CNN
(CNN)-- Early Sunday, as the sun ascended to the winter sky, the very last American convoy made its way down the main highway that connects Iraq and Kuwait.
The military called it its final "tactical road march." A series of 110 heavily armored, hulking trucks and Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles carrying about 500 soldiers streamed slowly but steadily out of the combat zone.
A few minutes before 8 a.m., the metal gate behind the last MRAP closed. With it came to an end a deadly and divisive war that lasted almost nine years, its enormous cost calculated in blood and billions.
Some rushed to touch the gate, forever a symbol now of an emotional, landmark day. Some cheered with the Army's ultimate expression of affirmation: "Hooah!"
"It's hard to put words to it right now," said Lt. Col. Jack Vantress.
"It's a feeling of elation," he said, "to see what we've accomplished in the last eight-and-a-half years and then to be part of the last movement out of Iraq."
Once, when hundreds of thousands of Americans were in Iraq, the main highway was better known as Main Supply Route Tampa and soldiers trekked north towards Baghdad and beyond, never knowing what danger lurked on their path.
On this monumental day, the Texas-based 3rd Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 1st Cavalry Division's main concern was how to avoid a traffic jam on their final journey in Iraq.
Staff Sgt. Daniel Gaumer, 37, was on this road in August 2003. It was his first time at war. He was frightened.
There was not a lot of traffic at that time, he recalled. He remembered a lot of cheering by Iraqis, even though the situation was tense.
Sunday morning, the air was decidedly different.
"It's pretty historic," he said about the drive south, hoping he will not ever have to come back through this unforgiving terrain again.
Once there were bases sprinkled in the desolate desert between Nasiriya and Basra, American soldiers hidden from view behind walls of giant mesh Hesco bags filled with dirt and sand to stave off incoming fire.
On this day, the roads, the bases were in Iraqi hands, the sands in the bags returned to the earth.
Once, almost nine years ago in March 2003, U.S. tanks and armored personnel carriers had thundered north, with the drive and determination needed to decapitate a dictator.
On this day, heading south towards Khabari border crossing, the soldiers took stock of their sacrifice.
In another war, there had been little joy or even emotion as final jet transports lifted Americans from Vietnamese soil.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/17/world/meast/ira...
The only war the USer's ever won...was the civil war.

All the rest of US involvement in conflict has been "come in late" (profiteering) or invade a 3rd world country.

Not much to be proud of here folks...move along...

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