Origin of Khmer Classical Dance according to James R. Brandon's book

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Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#1 Feb 24, 2011
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The origin of Khmer classical dance is very cloudy, many Khmers believe that it is an unbroken tradition dating back to the Angkor period which Western scholars do not generally hold true. Contrary to that belief is that Khmer classical dance emanated from Thai dance which is true somewhat.
Dance from the Angkor period is thought to have had much more of a religious purpose. There have been descriptions of thousands of dancers all under one court. Angkorian dancers were bare-breasted while the classical dancers of today wear costumes which more than cover their bosoms. According to James R. Brandon's book, Theatre in Southeast Asia, ancient Khmer dance started with Indian influence and later may have received Javanese influence where flourished for 600 years until the Khmer empire at Angkor was sacked in the late 15th century. The dance tradition of the Khmers struggled to survive as many of its dancers were taken to Thai court of Ayutthaya.
During the post-Angkor era, the Khmer kingdom became a vassal state to the Thai kingdom where it derived many Thai cultural influences which the Thais had melded with that of which they received from Angkor and from other cultures of the Southeast Asian realm. In the 19th century, King Ang Duong, who spent many years of his life at the Thai court in Bangkok, restructured his royal court with Thai ingenuity. This restructuring also affected classical dance of the royal court (a symbol of the king's wealth and power) whose costumes were remodeled after Thai classical dance costumes. It is also during this century that many Thai dance troupes settled in Cambodia. So Khmer classical dance at that time was virtually indistinguishable from Thai classical dance.
In the early 20th, dancers of the court of King Sisowath (second son of King Ang Duong to reign) were exihibited at the French Colonial Exposition in Marseilles where they captured the heart of French artist Auguste Rodin who painted many watercolors of the dancers. After WWII, Khmer classical dance underwent a renaissance brought on by former Queen of Cambodia, Kossamak Nearireath. Costumes had a new Khmeresque look which makes them a bit more distinguishable from Thai classical dance costumes. Lyrics for the music of classical dances, which were previously sung in Thai, were translated into Khmer. This once-again-reformed performing arts was then introduced to the Cambodian public where it now remains a celebrated icon of Khmer culture often being performed during public events, holidays and for tourists in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia often perform for guests of the state and toured many places abroad including France and the USA. Khmer classical dance suffered a huge blow during the Khmer Rouge regime; many dancers were killed because classical dance was thought as of an aristrocratic institution; as a result many dances were lost because classical dance was a tradition that was taught from memory. Khmer classical dance training was resurrected in the refugee camps in eastern Thailand with the few surviving dancers. Many dances and dance dramas were also recreated at the Royal University of Fine-Arts in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia was the main troupe of classical dancers in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge regime, ;but since Cambodia has gain it's peace, a few other professional and amateur troupes have risen
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Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#2 Feb 24, 2011
Another version of that article found in wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_classical_...

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Cambodians scholars, such as Pech Tum Kravel, and French archaeologist George Groslier have mentioned that Khmer classical dance is part of an unbroken tradition dating to the Angkor period.[4] Other scholars theorize that Khmer classical dance, as seen today, developed from, or was at least highly influenced by, Thai classical dance innovations from the 19th century and precedent forms were somewhat different.

One of the earliest records of dance in Cambodia is from the 7th century, where performances were used as a funeral rite for kings and this ritual continues to this day.[5] During the Angkor period, dance was ritually performed at temples.[2] The temple dancers came to be considered as apsaras, who served as entertainers and messengers to divinities.[6] Ancient stone inscriptions, describe thousands of apsara dancers assigned to temples and performing divine rites as well as for the public.[2] The tradition of temple dancers declined during the 15th century, as the Siamese kingdom of Ayutthaya raided Angkor. When Angkor collapsed, its artisans, Brahmins, and dancers were taken to Ayutthaya. The tradition of royal court dance however, did continue.

In the 19th century, King Ang Duong, who had spent many years at the Siamese court in Bangkok, restructured his royal court with Siamese innovations. This restructuring also affected the classical dance of the royal court (a symbol of the king's wealth and power) whose costumes were remodelled after Thai classical dance costumes.
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#3 Feb 24, 2011
Now, what do you guys say?
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#4 Feb 24, 2011
Ok, today I am done with the copied Royal Palace and Khmer traditional dance brought to Cambodia by King Ong Duang.

If anyone to blame, you should blame King Ong Duang who made you guys embarrassed by copying everything from Siam kingdom.

I am going to bed now, will come back later to explode more on how Cambodia is cheating the world.:)

Good night and Bye!
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#5 Feb 24, 2011
Oh, before I go, please don't trash my thread.

If you have any intelligent argument, please feel free to post it here.

But if you want to attack me personally, please stay away.

Because you will make Khmers look even more worse.

:)
Anonymous

Cranston, RI

#6 Feb 24, 2011
Don't believe anything Thai people says its all fake history and they are just trying to make t seem like Khmer's never existed when us Khmer's started their culture and they try to act like their much superior than everyone else.
Remember

Natick, MA

#8 Feb 24, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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The origin of Khmer classical dance is very cloudy, many Khmers believe that it is an unbroken tradition dating back to the Angkor period which Western scholars do not generally hold true. Contrary to that belief is that Khmer classical dance emanated from Thai dance which is true somewhat.
Dance from the Angkor period is thought to have had much more of a religious purpose. There have been descriptions of thousands of dancers all under one court. Angkorian dancers were bare-breasted while the classical dancers of today wear costumes which more than cover their bosoms. According to James R. Brandon's book, Theatre in Southeast Asia, ancient Khmer dance started with Indian influence and later may have received Javanese influence where flourished for 600 years until the Khmer empire at Angkor was sacked in the late 15th century. The dance tradition of the Khmers struggled to survive as many of its dancers were taken to Thai court of Ayutthaya.
During the post-Angkor era, the Khmer kingdom became a vassal state to the Thai kingdom where it derived many Thai cultural influences which the Thais had melded with that of which they received from Angkor and from other cultures of the Southeast Asian realm. In the 19th century, King Ang Duong, who spent many years of his life at the Thai court in Bangkok, restructured his royal court with Thai ingenuity. This restructuring also affected classical dance of the royal court (a symbol of the king's wealth and power) whose costumes were remodeled after Thai classical dance costumes. It is also during this century that many Thai dance troupes settled in Cambodia. So Khmer classical dance at that time was virtually indistinguishable from Thai classical dance.
In the early 20th, dancers of the court of King Sisowath (second ...--
ummm.. the origin of thai dance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_in_Thailan...

"The Thais reputedly first acquired a dance troupe when, in AD 1431, they conquered the ancient Khmer capital of Angkor and took as part of their booty an entire corps de ballet. Dancers whose performances had once been seen as a symbolic link between nature, earth and the realm of the gods."
sure over the years you call it thai, but it started with khmer dance troup that taught thai how too. And yes, during the syam empire, clothing might change but the technigue is still all khmer, from the Angkorian Era."

Khmer might have suffered and lost many skills people to syam but many still survived and pass it on. Syam and Angkor court might have one time been brother, but today thailand is NOT syam of old. Today thailand is Chinese, syam and khmer there are just 2nc class citizen.

so the british emphasis syam to ware clothing, because bare breated seem to primative... sure as time moderise clothing was adapted by syam... then pass to khmer dancer.

but the dance technique is all khmer, prefect since the Ankorian Era. To this day there is still khmer dance teacher in thailand, teaching thai people how to dance this great classical dance with a thai twist.

I remember my father telling me that in the early 1940's or so, khmer won the classical dance contest in the region. I am still looking for that article.
Today thai has it own form and khmer has its original form.
Kaing Guek Eav aka Duch

Stanton, CA

#9 Feb 24, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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The origin of Khmer classical dance is very cloudy, many Khmers believe that it is an unbroken tradition dating back to the Angkor period which Western scholars do not generally hold true. Contrary to that belief is that Khmer classical dance emanated from Thai dance which is true somewhat.
Dance from the Angkor period is thought to have had much more of a religious purpose. There have been descriptions of thousands of dancers all under one court. Angkorian dancers were bare-breasted while the classical dancers of today wear costumes which more than cover their bosoms. According to James R. Brandon's book, Theatre in Southeast Asia, ancient Khmer dance started with Indian influence and later may have received Javanese influence where flourished for 600 years until the Khmer empire at Angkor was sacked in the late 15th century. The dance tradition of the Khmers struggled to survive as many of its dancers were taken to Thai court of Ayutthaya.
During the post-Angkor era, the Khmer kingdom became a vassal state to the Thai kingdom where it derived many Thai cultural influences which the Thais had melded with that of which they received from Angkor and from other cultures of the Southeast Asian realm. In the 19th century, King Ang Duong, who spent many years of his life at the Thai court in Bangkok, restructured his royal court with Thai ingenuity. This restructuring also affected classical dance of the royal court (a symbol of the king's wealth and power) whose costumes were remodeled after Thai classical dance costumes. It is also during this century that many Thai dance troupes settled in Cambodia. So Khmer classical dance at that time was virtually indistinguishable from Thai classical dance.
In the early 20th, dancers of the court of King Sisowath (second son of King Ang Duong to reign) were exihibited at the French Colonial Exposition in Marseilles where they captured the heart of French artist Auguste Rodin who painted many watercolors of the dancers. After WWII, Khmer classical dance underwent a renaissance brought on by former Queen of Cambodia, Kossamak Nearireath. Costumes had a new Khmeresque look which makes them a bit more distinguishable from Thai classical dance costumes. Lyrics for the music of classical dances, which were previously sung in Thai, were translated into Khmer. This once-again-reformed performing arts was then introduced to the Cambodian public where it now remains a celebrated icon of Khmer culture often being performed during public events, holidays and for tourists in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia often perform for guests of the state and toured many places abroad including France and the USA. Khmer classical dance suffered a huge blow during the Khmer Rouge regime; many dancers were killed because classical dance was thought as of an aristrocratic institution; as a result many dances were lost because classical dance was a tradition that was taught from memory. Khmer classical dance training was resurrected in the refugee camps in eastern Thailand with the few surviving dancers. Many dances and dance dramas were also recreated at the Royal University of Fine-Arts in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia was the main troupe of classical dancers in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge regime, ;but since Cambodia has gain it's peace, a few other professional and amateur troupes have risen
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dumbassz khmers can't dance, because they are monky..
Grand pa boum boum

Rohnert Park, CA

#10 Feb 24, 2011
Kaing Guek Eav aka Duch wrote:
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dumbassz khmers can't dance, because they are monky..
HAHAHAHA!And you, can you dance?????Hahahaha!Welcome back GRANDSON ,HOW IS CHAIRMAN MAO AKA DUCK DOING?!!!!HAHAHAHAHA!
YOU CANNOT DANCE EITHER BECAUSE YOUR"E AN OURANG OUTANG!!!!hahahaha!
Khmer Man_BangcockFigh ter

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#12 Feb 24, 2011
Remember wrote:
<quoted text>
ummm.. the origin of thai dance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_in_Thailan...
"The Thais reputedly first acquired a dance troupe when, in AD 1431, they conquered the ancient Khmer capital of Angkor and took as part of their booty an entire corps de ballet. Dancers whose performances had once been seen as a symbolic link between nature, earth and the realm of the gods."
sure over the years you call it thai, but it started with khmer dance troup that taught thai how too. And yes, during the syam empire, clothing might change but the technigue is still all khmer, from the Angkorian Era."
Khmer might have suffered and lost many skills people to syam but many still survived and pass it on. Syam and Angkor court might have one time been brother, but today thailand is NOT syam of old. Today thailand is Chinese, syam and khmer there are just 2nc class citizen.
so the british emphasis syam to ware clothing, because bare breated seem to primative... sure as time moderise clothing was adapted by syam... then pass to khmer dancer.
but the dance technique is all khmer, prefect since the Ankorian Era. To this day there is still khmer dance teacher in thailand, teaching thai people how to dance this great classical dance with a thai twist.
I remember my father telling me that in the early 1940's or so, khmer won the classical dance contest in the region. I am still looking for that article.
Today thai has it own form and khmer has its original form.
Good explanation bro. Though, i don't think these siam history losers will accept the truth rather than their fake histories...
Grand pa boum boum

Rohnert Park, CA

#13 Feb 24, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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The origin of Khmer classical dance is very cloudy, many Khmers believe that it is an unbroken tradition dating back to the Angkor period which Western scholars do not generally hold true. Contrary to that belief is that Khmer classical dance emanated from Thai dance which is true somewhat.
Dance from the Angkor period is thought to have had much more of a religious purpose. There have been descriptions of thousands of dancers all under one court. Angkorian dancers were bare-breasted while the classical dancers of today wear costumes which more than cover their bosoms. According to James R. Brandon's book, Theatre in Southeast Asia, ancient Khmer dance started with Indian influence and later may have received Javanese influence where flourished for 600 years until the Khmer empire at Angkor was sacked in the late 15th century. The dance tradition of the Khmers struggled to survive as many of its dancers were taken to Thai court of Ayutthaya.
During the post-Angkor era, the Khmer kingdom became a vassal state to the Thai kingdom where it derived many Thai cultural influences which the Thais had melded with that of which they received from Angkor and from other cultures of the Southeast Asian realm. In the 19th century, King Ang Duong, who spent many years of his life at the Thai court in Bangkok, restructured his royal court with Thai ingenuity. This restructuring also affected classical dance of the royal court (a symbol of the king's wealth and power) whose costumes were remodeled after Thai classical dance costumes. It is also during this century that many Thai dance troupes settled in Cambodia. So Khmer classical dance at that time was virtually indistinguishable from Thai classical dance.
In the early 20th, dancers of the court of King Sisowath (second son of King Ang Duong to reign) were exihibited at the French Colonial Exposition in Marseilles where they captured the heart of French artist Auguste Rodin who painted many watercolors of the dancers. After WWII, Khmer classical dance underwent a renaissance brought on by former Queen of Cambodia, Kossamak Nearireath. Costumes had a new Khmeresque look which makes them a bit more distinguishable from Thai classical dance costumes. Lyrics for the music of classical dances, which were previously sung in Thai, were translated into Khmer. This once-again-reformed performing arts was then introduced to the Cambodian public where it now remains a celebrated icon of Khmer culture often being performed during public events, holidays and for tourists in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia often perform for guests of the state and toured many places abroad including France and the USA. Khmer classical dance suffered a huge blow during the Khmer Rouge regime; many dancers were killed because classical dance was thought as of an aristrocratic institution; as a result many dances were lost because classical dance was a tradition that was taught from memory. Khmer classical dance training was resurrected in the refugee camps in eastern Thailand with the few surviving dancers. Many dances and dance dramas were also recreated at the Royal University of Fine-Arts in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia was the main troupe of classical dancers in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge regime, ;but since Cambodia has gain it's peace, a few other professional and amateur troupes have risen
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!YOU LOVE TO PLAY THE SCHOOLAR AREN"T YOU????hahahaha!It doesn't work that way GRAND DAUTHER!!!!HAHAHA!You have so much to prove aren't you????Hahaha!HUH OLD FART?????I can see inside you.You lack of self confidence and try to stir the young people emotion here.But it won't work.EVERYTHING IS JUST A GAME !!!!!HAHAHAHAHA!!!WHO DETAIN THE TRUTH ABOUT LIFE????hahahaha!NOBODY KNOWS!!!!SO JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU"RE JUST COMPLEXE ABOUT YOURE EXISTENCE DUALITY AS CHINES AND THAI KADAI DESCENDANT OF MY KHOM BLOOD!!!!HAHAHA!!!
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#14 Feb 27, 2011
Khmer Apsara Princess wrote:
Don't believe anything Thai people says its all fake history and they are just trying to make t seem like Khmer's never existed when us Khmer's started their culture and they try to act like their much superior than everyone else.
Ur... I don't think James R. Brandon is a Thai.
His book published by Cambridge. Not a Thai history book.:)
Ah jor siam

Cambodia

#15 Feb 27, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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Ur... I don't think James R. Brandon is a Thai.
His book published by Cambridge. Not a Thai history book.:)
How mooron you are?
You show us a book written by a farang? Use your little brain ah crocodile!!! a book does not proof the real history, your fUkking greedy king spent a lot of money to farangs to re-write the history... but the world knows ... the crocodile race...
Anonymous

Cranston, RI

#16 Feb 27, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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Ur... I don't think James R. Brandon is a Thai.
His book published by Cambridge. Not a Thai history book.:)
Every Thai history I read about in books always talk about how they love to steal peoples land thieves.
Khmer Man_BangcockFigh ter

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#17 Feb 27, 2011
Khmer Apsara Princess wrote:
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Every Thai history I read about in books always talk about how they love to steal peoples land thieves.
has haaaaaaa... siam will start stealing each others' pant soon because they need mask... has haaaaaaa
Dead Siem

Merchantville, NJ

#18 Mar 6, 2011
Thai cannot cannot dance like khmer. They're dancing like a bunch of horney robots.
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#19 Mar 6, 2011
Ah jor siam wrote:
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How mooron you are?
You show us a book written by a farang? Use your little brain ah crocodile!!! a book does not proof the real history, your fUkking greedy king spent a lot of money to farangs to re-write the history... but the world knows ... the crocodile race...
Well, when I quote a book written by a Thai, you said it's a lie.

Now I quote a book written by a farang from Cambridge, you are calling me a liar again????

How come????:)

The guy actually went for a field survew/interview local people and conclude that Cambodia took the current style of dance from Siam during Nak Ong Duang's period.

Why don't you find Khmer dancing 50 years before Nak Ong Duang's period to compare to what you see today?

It can tell everything.
GOLDEN COMPASS

Rohnert Park, CA

#20 Mar 6, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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Well, when I quote a book written by a Thai, you said it's a lie.
Now I quote a book written by a farang from Cambridge, you are calling me a liar again????
How come????:)
The guy actually went for a field survew/interview local people and conclude that Cambodia took the current style of dance from Siam during Nak Ong Duang's period.
Why don't you find Khmer dancing 50 years before Nak Ong Duang's period to compare to what you see today?
It can tell everything.
STOP PLAYING THE SMART GUY .....YOU THAI BIXCHT.....YOU ARE NEXT ON HO CHI MINH AGENDA......your country of SIAMESE WHXXORE WILL BE BELONG VIETNAM SOON......
Youre fake knowledge of dancing doesn't serve you cause you will bow to HO CHI MINH CHILDREN as SLAVE....WE HAVE CAMBODIA NOW.....NEXT IS THAILAND BIXXXCHT.....GET IT moronic thai....YOU AND THE KHEM ARE THE SAME RACE......you need to be EDUCATED LIKE HO CHI MINH WANT YOU TO BE.....LIVE UNDER ONE STATE ....UNITED INDOCHINA......
White Tai

Framingham, MA

#21 Mar 7, 2011
Dead Siem wrote:
Thai cannot cannot dance like khmer. They're dancing like a bunch of horney robots.
That's what happens when they try to have bunch of ladyboys performing the elegant dance moves of Apsara. Before the 20th century, the Siam women could do it. Now in the 21st, they try with the ladyboys and still failed very badly. How akward!
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#22 Mar 9, 2011
Leeporter wrote:
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The origin of Khmer classical dance is very cloudy, many Khmers believe that it is an unbroken tradition dating back to the Angkor period which Western scholars do not generally hold true. Contrary to that belief is that Khmer classical dance emanated from Thai dance which is true somewhat.

Dance from the Angkor period is thought to have had much more of a religious purpose. There have been descriptions of thousands of dancers all under one court. Angkorian dancers were bare-breasted while the classical dancers of today wear costumes which more than cover their bosoms. According to James R. Brandon's book, Theatre in Southeast Asia, ancient Khmer dance started with Indian influence and later may have received Javanese influence where flourished for 600 years until the Khmer empire at Angkor was sacked in the late 15th century. The dance tradition of the Khmers struggled to survive as many of its dancers were taken to Thai court of Ayutthaya.

During the post-Angkor era, the Khmer kingdom became a vassal state to the Thai kingdom where it derived many Thai cultural influences which the Thais had melded with that of which they received from Angkor and from other cultures of the Southeast Asian realm. In the 19th century, King Ang Duong, who spent many years of his life at the Thai court in Bangkok, restructured his royal court with Thai ingenuity. This restructuring also affected classical dance of the royal court (a symbol of the king's wealth and power) whose costumes were remodeled after Thai classical dance costumes. It is also during this century that many Thai dance troupes settled in Cambodia. So Khmer classical dance at that time was virtually indistinguishable from Thai classical dance.

In the early 20th, dancers of the court of King Sisowath (second son of King Ang Duong to reign) were exihibited at the French Colonial Exposition in Marseilles where they captured the heart of French artist Auguste Rodin who painted many watercolors of the dancers. After WWII, Khmer classical dance underwent a renaissance brought on by former Queen of Cambodia, Kossamak Nearireath. Costumes had a new Khmeresque look which makes them a bit more distinguishable from Thai classical dance costumes. Lyrics for the music of classical dances, which were previously sung in Thai, were translated into Khmer. This once-again-reformed performing arts was then introduced to the Cambodian public where it now remains a celebrated icon of Khmer culture often being performed during public events, holidays and for tourists in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia often perform for guests of the state and toured many places abroad including France and the USA. Khmer classical dance suffered a huge blow during the Khmer Rouge regime; many dancers were killed because classical dance was thought as of an aristrocratic institution; as a result many dances were lost because classical dance was a tradition that was taught from memory. Khmer classical dance training was resurrected in the refugee camps in eastern Thailand with the few surviving dancers. Many dances and dance dramas were also recreated at the Royal University of Fine-Arts in Cambodia. The Royal Ballet of Cambodia was the main troupe of classical dancers in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge regime, ;but since Cambodia has gain it's peace, a few other professional and amateur troupes have risen.
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Still no one argue with this history of Khmer dance taken back to Cambodia by Nak Ong Duang from Thailand???

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