25,000 new Bulgarians from Macedonia, Moldova the last six years

“Last year we turned down some 959 applications, including 711 by Macedonian citizens who presented fake documents”

Some 14,000 Macedonians and 11,000 Moldovans of Bulgarian origin were granted a Bulgarian passport over the last six years, Bulgaria's Vice President Angel Marin announced Sunday. via Macedonian Radio Television

[Hermes]

Of course they'll get bulgarian passports. FYROM is of course, in reality, Bulgarian descendants with a country that has a Greek name.

what else is new

[Geo]

And that's the bottom line and every line in between.

[ONE MACEDONIA]

Hermes wrote:

Of course they'll get bulgarian passports. FYROM is of course, in reality, Bulgarian descendants with a country that has a Greek name.
what else is new

hey HERPIES,you must be so itchy you cant even type sense

ask your bugari friends if they were alowed to leave their country up untill 10 years ago

would you blame anyone for that?
ofcourse NOT.

WOULD anyone let the MECKARI(bear tamers)out?

so,what is wrong with MAKEDONCI taking bugarski cityzenships?

it just accounts for more MAKEDONCI where is needed

[Greek Fire]

“In the Balkans to be recognised as a Nation you need to have a history of 2 to 3 thousand years old. Since you (the Greeks) made us to invent a history… we did invent it“!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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2008...The year Ellas seals Fyroms destiny...
ELLAS...ELLAS....MAKEDONIA
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[fos27]

like rats jumping a sinking boat

[fos27]

Nothing wrong with Skops taking up Bulgarian citizenship - we want your whole country doing it - you have the same language, same culture, same food, same dress, same dances, same names, same heros, same folksongs, same physical appearance, same history, and of course same national identity.

ONE MACEDONIA wrote:

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hey HERPIES,you must be so itchy you cant even type sense
ask your bugari friends if they were alowed to leave their country up untill 10 years ago
would you blame anyone for that?
ofcourse NOT.
WOULD anyone let the MECKARI(bear tamers)out?
so,what is wrong with MAKEDONCI taking bugarski cityzenships?
it just accounts for more MAKEDONCI where is needed

[Hermes]

In case you don't realize young boy, in order to acquire bulgarian citizenship, you must provide proof of your bulgarian heritage. As we all know, as a fact, everyone in fyrom (excluding the albanians) are of bulgarian descent.

Case Closed.

[Buttburger Xtra Greasey]

Hermes wrote:

In case you don't realize young boy, in order to acquire bulgarian citizenship, you must provide proof of your bulgarian heritage. As we all know, as a fact, everyone in fyrom (excluding the albanians) are of bulgarian descent.
Case Closed.

And you are of Ethiopian / Turkish decent. Don't you ever try to claim any of you are Aryan and no Macedonians are not Bulgarians or FOROG'S or Serbians. This has been proven genetically, culturally, linguistically, historically and so on. What you are unable to prove is your own real decent...which was the lovechild of an Ethiopian raping a Turko Albanian. That's why you are the colour you are and you look the way you look as do your parents, grandparents etc etc etc! To gain your place under the Macedonian sun you have systematically licked ass and sold your asses to bigger players...nothing changed thus far. People no matter who they are or where they are will do what they have to do to survive, even of it means obatinig a passport of another nationality. This is only done due to persecution from many angles by fascists and megalomaniac institutions. Also you do not need to prove heritage you dickhead. You only need apply via a form and sign away. It means nothing but gaining access to a higher income. Keep spewing out Pelepponesian shit and we'll keep bitch slapping it back in your faces. Keep it coming!!!

[MissBallkan]

A Makedonski wrote:

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...Another Slavoskopjan ape down under 'drinking' from his own sources:

http://youtube.com/watch...

[The Macedonian]

Greeks were doing that under ottoman rule too
declaring themselves to be turks in order
to gain economic and transit privilages.......

[Buttburger Xtra Greasey]

Macedonian Rooster wrote:

<quoted text>...Another Slavoskopjan ape down under 'drinking' from his own sources:
http://youtube.com/watch...

Gee...great response rock dwelling gypsy...go kill yourself and bring your mother back some pride for the shame she felt whilst shitting you out...I like that one!!!

[Alexander MonkeyDonsky]

Gee...great response rock dwelling gypsy..I WILL.go kill MYself and bring MY mother back some pride for the shame she felt whilst shitting ME out...!!HERE MY LAST PICTURE-
http://www.ego.com.mk/arhiva/broj94/A.Donski1...

[Istor]

A Makedonski wrote:

<quoted text>
Gee...great response rock dwelling gypsy...go kill yourself and bring your mother back some pride for the shame she felt whilst shitting you out...I like that one!!!

Greeks were the first people raised up against Ottoman yoke.

You have stolen even our banners "Sloboda ili smrt"

[Istor]

Sorry, it was 'svoboda' then (1903) in plain Bulgarian.

[shefa]

Here is a new article in a Skopje newspaper called "Utrinski Vesnik". The comments below are also very interesting. I am just reading them, in the "ancient" language (of the Rosetta Stone):

http://www.utrinski.com.mk/...

[Sarissa]

shefa wrote:

Here is a new article in a Skopje newspaper called "Utrinski Vesnik". The comments below are also very interesting. I am just reading them, in the "ancient" language (of the Rosetta Stone):
http://www.utrinski.com.mk/...

Utrinski Vesnik is not Bulgarian,is ancient..Egyptian,HAHAHAHAHA!

[shefa]

Forgot to mention - the article is named "The competition for Bulgarian passports is not subsiding".

[Alexander MonkeyDonsky]

shefa wrote:

Here is a new article in a Skopje newspaper called "Utrinski Vesnik". The comments below are also very interesting. I am just reading them, in the "ancient" language (of the Rosetta Stone):
http://www.utrinski.com.mk/...

BRAVO!!Eto nekoi komentari ot "MAKEDONCI"

Nema nishto strashno vo zemanjeto bugarski pasosh. Tie se nashiot najblizok narod i site se stremime kon Evropa bez granici i ne e vazhno dali nekoj ke zhivee vo Makedonija ili Bugarija. Toa se dve zemji koi delat isti istoriski nastani i lichnosti. Za da ne zemaat mladite pasoshi drzhavata treba da im obezbedi egzistencija co sopstvenata zemja, a ushte poveke vo sopstveniot grad. No, namesto toa kaj nas se se pravi vo Skopje, a ostatokot od Makedonija umira.
Vo sekoj slucaj, jas ne go obvinuvam narodot sto podava dokumenti za Bg drzavjanstvo! A kakvo bi bilo vaseto mislenje za onie begalci vo glemata navidum dobra zemja USA, i sto zimat ameriknsko drzavjanstvo? A? kakva e taa nacija,. dali ima istorija ili kolku godini postoe taa drzava?? Nie sme previligirani pred Bugarskata zemja i ne treba taka sovinisticki da gledame kon niv. Sepak ni se sosedi, i si pomagame eden na drug!!
Postovana redakcijo i citateli se sekjavam na godinite stara jugoslavija. Togas vo makedonija bugarin bese pogrdno , smesno itn. Jas togas za mene pisuvav i kazuvav deka sum makedonec a site zboruvaa deka sum bugarin. Se pravea dopolnitelni dosija, agenti me sledea i prasuvaa sto mislam za toa ili nesto drugo itn strasni vreminja, koga nemozese da se mrdne od mesto napred Sega iljadnici makedonci zimaat bugarski pasosi i se pisuva deka toa e v red i sl. Jas mislam deka ne e vred. A iroonijata da bide pogolema jas nemam seuste bugarski pasos a sega mi e se edno sto zboruva okolinata za mene Pozdrav ilija Sega mozam da se smejam na tie vreminja

Kakop patriotizam?pa zavrsiv VSS vo 1990g cekav rabota 10g nit moze da se ozenis dzabe stan trebav da cekam da ostaram a od kade penzija vo mak davat samo na vraboteni?blagodarejci bug pasos otidov vo bug se vrabotiv vo Sofia i toa po struka moi prijateli vo Mak na 40g vikat da poziveat do 50g a posle sakat da umrat zatoa ni rabota imat a ni penzija gi ceka pa toa li e nacija?taka li covek moze da bide patriot?nasite politicari se odnesuvat kako da nesme nacija samite gledate deka mnogumina so bug pasos se iseluvat tokmu za Bug neli e toa pokazatel deka ne ne biva kako nacija?
Tocno e deka vo istocnite gradovi site famailii imaat bugarski pasosi. Jaz sum od Stip i imam bugarski pasos. Rabotam vo Sofija. Sum makedonec od bugarsko poteklo. E i sto?

[GEOROX]

A Makedonski wrote:

<quoted text>
And you are of Ethiopian / Turkish decent. Don't you ever try to claim any of you are Aryan and no Macedonians are not Bulgarians or FOROG'S or Serbians. This has been proven genetically, culturally, linguistically, historically and so on. What you are unable to prove is your own real decent...which was the lovechild of an Ethiopian raping a Turko Albanian. That's why you are the colour you are and you look the way you look as do your parents, grandparents etc etc etc!

You have no basis in which to call us Ethiopians or Turks for that matter. Read it and weep.

Dropped genetics paper lacked scientific merit
Nature 415, 115 (10 January 2002); doi:10.1038/415115b
Sir – Even though the controversial withdrawal of a paper on the genetic relatedness of Palestinians and Jews by the journal Human Immunology (see Nature 414, 382; 2001) is a minor episode compared with the tragedies caused by ethnic/religious conflicts over past decades, the issues involved are worth revisiting.
The stated purpose of the paper by Antonio Arnaiz-Villena et al. was to "examine the genetic relationships between the Palestinians and their neighbours (particularly the Jews) in order to:(1) discover the Palestinian origins, and (2) explain the historic basis of the present ... conflict between Palestinians and other Muslim countries with Israelite Jews".
They conclude: "Jews and Palestinians share a very similar HLA genetic pool that supports a common ancient Canaanite origin. Therefore, the origin of the long-lasting Jewish–Palestinian hostility is the fight for land in ancient times."
It is difficult to believe that knowledge of genes may help to explain the present conflict. Although population genetics can address issues of relatedness of populations, mating patterns, migrations and so on, obviously it cannot provide evidence about reasons for conflicts between people.
Our primary concern, however, is that the authors might be perceived to have been discriminated against for political, as opposed to legitimate scientific, reasons.
Even a cursory look at the paper's diagrams and trees immediately indicates that the authors make some extraordinary claims. They used a single genetic marker, HLA DRB1, for their analysis to construct a genealogical tree and map of 28 populations from Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Japan. Using results from the analysis of a single marker, particularly one likely to have undergone selection, for the purpose of reconstructing genealogies is unreliable and unacceptable practice in population genetics.
The limitations are made evident by the authors' extraordinary observations that Greeks are very similar to Ethiopians and east Africans but very distant from other south Europeans; and that the Japanese are nearly identical to west and south Africans. It is surprising that the authors were not puzzled by these anomalous results, which contradict history, geography, anthropology and all prior population-genetic studies of these groups. Surely the ordinary process of refereeing would have saved the field from this dispute.
We believe that the paper should have been refused for publication on the simple grounds that it lacked scientific merit.
Neil Risch
Department of Genetics, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, California 94305, USA
Alberto Piazza
Department of Genetics, Biology and Biochemistry, University of Torino, Via Santena 19, 10126 Torino, Italy
L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza
Department of Genetics, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, California 94305, USA

[Buttburger Xtra Greasey]

GEOROX wrote:

<quoted text>
You have no basis in which to call us Ethiopians or Turks for that matter. Read it and weep.
Dropped genetics paper lacked scientific merit
Nature 415, 115 (10 January 2002); doi:10.1038/415115b
Sir – Even though the controversial withdrawal of a paper on the genetic relatedness of Palestinians and Jews by the journal Human Immunology (see Nature 414, 382; 2001) is a minor episode compared with the tragedies caused by ethnic/religious conflicts over past decades, the issues involved are worth revisiting.
The stated purpose of the paper by Antonio Arnaiz-Villena et al. was to "examine the genetic relationships between the Palestinians and their neighbours (particularly the Jews) in order to:(1) discover the Palestinian origins, and (2) explain the historic basis of the present ... conflict between Palestinians and other Muslim countries with Israelite Jews".
They conclude: "Jews and Palestinians share a very similar HLA genetic pool that supports a common ancient Canaanite origin. Therefore, the origin of the long-lasting Jewish–Palestinian hostility is the fight for land in ancient times."
It is difficult to believe that knowledge of genes may help to explain the present conflict. Although population genetics can address issues of relatedness of populations, mating patterns, migrations and so on, obviously it cannot provide evidence about reasons for conflicts between people.
Our primary concern, however, is that the authors might be perceived to have been discriminated against for political, as opposed to legitimate scientific, reasons.
Even a cursory look at the paper's diagrams and trees immediately indicates that the authors make some extraordinary claims. They used a single genetic marker, HLA DRB1, for their analysis to construct a genealogical tree and map of 28 populations from Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Japan. Using results from the analysis of a single marker, particularly one likely to have undergone selection, for the purpose of reconstructing genealogies is unreliable and unacceptable practice in population genetics.
The limitations are made evident by the authors' extraordinary observations that Greeks are very similar to Ethiopians and east Africans but very distant from other south Europeans; and that the Japanese are nearly identical to west and south Africans. It is surprising that the authors were not puzzled by these anomalous results, which contradict history, geography, anthropology and all prior population-genetic studies of these groups. Surely the ordinary process of refereeing would have saved the field from this dispute.
We believe that the paper should have been refused for publication on the simple grounds that it lacked scientific merit.
Neil Risch
Department of Genetics, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, California 94305, USA
Alberto Piazza
Department of Genetics, Biology and Biochemistry, University of Torino, Via Santena 19, 10126 Torino, Italy
L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza
Department of Genetics, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, California 94305, USA

The genealogical ancestory of current Israelis is 90% of Khazar origin...near Odessa...base of the Caucas Mts...shows how much this paper is worth...and what was that line " Greeks are very similar to Ethiopians and east Africans but very distant from other south Europeans"...hmmm! Try again please.