What is it about Mini that makes it so popular?

Aug 3, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Globe and Mail

Not even Professor Dumbledore could have envisioned a spell so powerful that here in 2013 we have not just a Mini Cooper hatchback and convertible, but a three-door Mini , a roadster Mini, a cargo van Mini , a two-seat coupe Mini, a two-door SUV-like Mini and a four-door SUV Mini .

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Jan 18, 2014
 
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Oh yes you can!
The new MINI is 10 times better than the old Mini.
Either you're not getting the point or you're trying to wind me up.
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Both cars were or are sold world wide. The old mini had a good record in motor racing and was an out standing design in its day, paving the way for innovative creation of modern front wheel drives. 80% of the car was for occupants.
When or if the BMW mini ends its production run, the final sales figures will reveal the more popular car.
The old mini has been revered up there with the Ford model T and the VW beetle.
The old Mini wouldn't satisfy any of the current safety regulations, in terms of crumpling zones at both ends, airbags, etc... The new MINI is definitely a safer car.

The Old Mini had a pushrod iron-cast carburator engine with a common gearbox unit ; it was unrealiable and inefficient. It dated from the pre-war era.

The new BMW-designed MINI engine is a very efficient fuel injected multi-valves DOHC aluminium block with separate gearbox that meets all the current and future emission regulations.

Compared to the new MINI, the old one is like chalk and cheese.
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rio wrote:
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The old Mini wouldn't satisfy any of the current safety regulations, in terms of crumpling zones at both ends, airbags, etc... The new MINI is definitely a safer car.
The Old Mini had a pushrod iron-cast carburator engine with a common gearbox unit ; it was unrealiable and inefficient. It dated from the pre-war era.
The new BMW-designed MINI engine is a very efficient fuel injected multi-valves DOHC aluminium block with separate gearbox that meets all the current and future emission regulations.
Compared to the new MINI, the old one is like chalk and cheese.
I wouldn't disagree with any of that. However given the forty odd year gap between the two its hardly surprising, if BMW hadn't or couldn't make improvements then they would go out of business. The fact remains,,, for it's time the old mini was outstanding.

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supposed to blow the bloody doors off.
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I wouldn't disagree with any of that. However given the forty odd year gap between the two its hardly surprising, if BMW hadn't or couldn't make improvements then they would go out of business. The fact remains,,, for it's time the old mini was outstanding.
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The fact is there was hardly any evolution on the old Mini.
They could have brought in a new modern engine, 5 speed gearbox, electronic ignition, fuel injection, galvanised body, etc... but they never did and it finished the same as it started, back in 1959.
It was a good design, but poorly executed and never improved.
BMC and British Leyland didn't believe in spending money on Research and Development.
No wonder they don't exist anymore...
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Rio, the poor man's Jeremy Clarkson.

and he has totally missed the point.

also, iF the original was so bad and BMW so clever, WHY didn't they have a car much better than that in 1959?

next , the Volkswagen, a horribly noisy little car .
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also, iF the original was so bad and BMW so clever, WHY didn't they have a car much better than that in 1959?
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In 1959, the Mini was made by the BMC (Morris & Austin), and still used a pre-war 3 bearing iron cast engine. It kept the same technology until its demise under Rover.

The name MINI was acquired by BMW which launched a completely new model, inspired by the original, but correctly executed and with good up-to-date engineering.

It was a clever marketing ploy to use the name MINI, but there is (thanks God) nothing in common between the two cars, apart that they are both made in Britain.

Satisfied?

Same ploy to use the name TRIUMPH to launch a new make of motorcycles which has nothing in common with the Meriden junk of old.

Same for Bentley or Rolls-Royce engineered in Germany, etc ...
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Jan 18, 2014
 
No offence to the British, but then it come to cars... The Germans its much much better. Even now the new Range Rover has quality proplems as always, but the design, comfort is superior. And the new mini is so popular because the Germans make it.

But in my country they sells Tesla as bread

Wow rio seems we could agree on something
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No offence to the British, but then it come to cars... The Germans its much much better. Even now the new Range Rover has quality proplems as always, but the design, comfort is superior. And the new mini is so popular because the Germans make it.
But in my country they sells Tesla as bread
Wow rio seems we could agree on something
Never liked the Range Rover from day one. Different generations don't make any difference: it's an ugly car.

I can live with mechanical faults, but at least I have to like the look of a car.

If I had to choose one make of car, it would be Mercedes, but they are perfect either.
Even German cars have quality problems, don't kid yourself about that!
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rio wrote:
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The fact is there was hardly any evolution on the old Mini.
They could have brought in a new modern engine, 5 speed gearbox, electronic ignition, fuel injection, galvanised body, etc... but they never did and it finished the same as it started, back in 1959.
It was a good design, but poorly executed and never improved.
BMC and British Leyland didn't believe in spending money on Research and Development.
No wonder they don't exist anymore...
Yeah, it was such a lousy car that it was sold and manufactured around the globe.
A forty year run of production is good in any ones book, if hot cakes sell, only an idiot would change the recipe.
It eventually failed to meet new safety requirements,, to do so it would no longer have been the same car.
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Yeah, it was such a lousy car that it was sold and manufactured around the globe.
A forty year run of production is good in any ones book, if hot cakes sell, only an idiot would change the recipe.
It eventually failed to meet new safety requirements,, to do so it would no longer have been the same car.
It was a cute car, granted, but was superseded by other superminis from other manufacturers, which were more modern, more economical, more fuel efficient, better built, etc...
The success of the Mini was apparently the downfall of BMC (with the trade unions); they lost money on every Mini they sold.
The car had been wrongly priced from the start and was not a financial success.

BMC saw the light later and launched more conventional models to compete against Ford (remember the Marina, the Ital?).

"Before we were making cars now we are going to make money" said famously Lord Stokes, BMC CEO at the launch of the Marina - a Ford Escort copy.

Been in an old Mini recently? I can't believe people liked travelling in a car that was so cramped. Times have changed ...
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Never liked the Range Rover from day one. Different generations don't make any difference: it's an ugly car.
I can live with mechanical faults, but at least I have to like the look of a car.
If I had to choose one make of car, it would be Mercedes, but they are perfect either.
Even German cars have quality problems, don't kid yourself about that!
I know rio, but if i had the money, i would choose Porche cayenne beboer Range Rover sport(with petroleum energien ofcorse), and i know the German engeniring istn perfect, but still better han the British.

And i love the design of RR
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rio wrote:
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It was a cute car, granted, but was superseded by other superminis from other manufacturers, which were more modern, more economical, more fuel efficient, better built, etc...
The success of the Mini was apparently the downfall of BMC (with the trade unions); they lost money on every Mini they sold.
The car had been wrongly priced from the start and was not a financial success.
BMC saw the light later and launched more conventional models to compete against Ford (remember the Marina, the Ital?).
"Before we were making cars now we are going to make money" said famously Lord Stokes, BMC CEO at the launch of the Marina - a Ford Escort copy.
Been in an old Mini recently? I can't believe people liked travelling in a car that was so cramped. Times have changed ...
BMC saw the light but the bulb was dim.

I remember the Marina and Ital,, the death throes.

I haven'[t been in a mini for years, a bit height restrictive,,,, used to race a cooper back in the day with a modified seat and cross channel member.
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Peugeot 205 1.9/1.6 gti in the 80s put the the Leyland Cooper in the shade.
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Just a little junk four cylinder buzz box.

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Never liked the Range Rover from day one. Different generations don't make any difference: it's an ugly car.
I can live with mechanical faults, but at least I have to like the look of a car.
If I had to choose one make of car, it would be Mercedes, but they are perfect either.
Even German cars have quality problems, don't kid yourself about that!
You're not gonna like this Rio but I actually agree with you on both your points here.

I'm going for a coffee.

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It was a cute car, granted, Been in an old Mini recently? I can't believe people liked travelling in a car that was so cramped. Times have changed ...
We used to own one, a T reg (1970 something) little brown one. If the missus hadn't wrapped it around a lamppost we'd have had it a lot longer.

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Just a little junk four cylinder buzz box.
Are there many (if any) Austin Mini's in the States?
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hoff wrote:
Peugeot 205 1.9/1.6 gti in the 80s put the the Leyland Cooper in the shade.
yes late 80s early 90s. the golden age of hot hatches.your right when the pug 205 , renault 5 turbo and so on came along that spelt the end for the mini. still a great car though . i bet you find that most people who say otherwise have never driven one.
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The old Mini wouldn't satisfy any of the current safety regulations, in terms of crumpling zones at both ends, airbags, etc... The new MINI is definitely a safer car.
The Old Mini had a pushrod iron-cast carburator engine with a common gearbox unit ; it was unrealiable and inefficient. It dated from the pre-war era.
The new BMW-designed MINI engine is a very efficient fuel injected multi-valves DOHC aluminium block with separate gearbox that meets all the current and future emission regulations.
Compared to the new MINI, the old one is like chalk and cheese.
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