Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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John

Australia

#39308 May 11, 2013
Muztards are the lowest species of shit on the planet.
The hatred for these vile monkeys is instinctive.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39309 May 11, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
We said:
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, Ades Bender sock puppet jimdians Sindian, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar,
gobbledegook Muzzie monkey chharchhobi ladygirl chickyladyrentboys Gallahs post or oink oink oink or CASTRATO discussion will be tolerated.
GO AWAY
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The biggest problem with Muslims is: They can not face the truth.
MalbarCACA Controllers

Luton, UK

#39310 May 11, 2013
Baron44 wrote:
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The biggest problem with Muslims is: They can not face the truth.
Do you have trouble understanding English, Bender CASTRATO? We care not about Muslims, what we dislike are fakes and pretentious DIMWITS.

It's quite simple:

We said:

No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, Ades Bender sock puppet jimdians Sindian, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar,
gobbledegook Muzzie monkey chharchhobi ladygirl chickyladyrentboys Gallahs post or oink oink oink or CASTRATO discussion will be tolerated.

GO AWAY

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39311 May 11, 2013
immigrant wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't addressing you slum-dog, sure you don't understand, you only understand Bombay smells, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, feeling a little homesick are you wobble head? next time bark only when addressed,this lesson is for convicts only...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
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Why do you feral pigs Muslims always refer to the Old Testament, when even the Christians do not follow the Old Testament.
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Atheist follow neither the New or the Old.
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We have advance from the dark ages, we do not accept any of the laws that were set down by Moses.
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You feral Pig Muslims still want to follow antiquated laws set down by a Homosexual Prophet by the name of Muhammad, who had a talking pet angel in a cave.
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This is not the year 610 when the homosexual Prophet Muhammad was around.
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This is the year 2013 when we follow and obey the latest laws.
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Not like you Feral Pigs Muslim like to think that every one who is not a feral pig Muslim, follows the laws laid down by Moses.
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The only pig I see oinking in this thread is you and MUQ.
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You oink like a pig every time someone shoots down in flames.
sid

Chermside, Australia

#39312 May 11, 2013
Infantile narcissism is the best phrase I have seen to describe muslim behaviour, compare the behaviour of a chronic ADHD sufferer to muslim behaviour,
1. Must have it's way.
2. Impervious to reason.
3. Utterly unconcerned about rights, wants, needs of others.
4. Abusive, threatening.
5. Resorts to violence if it doesn't get it's way.
6. Lacking sympathy, empathy.
7. Utterly selfish.
8. Plays the victim.
9. Blames others, will not take responsibility for behaviour.
10. Unaware of it's unacceptable behaviour.
11. Everyone else has a problem not them.
12. Detached from reality.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39313 May 11, 2013
Look at him (MalbarCACA Controllers) begging for my attention.
Poor Muslim man with a name like that even his friends avoid him.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#39314 May 11, 2013
immigrant wrote:
BUT DID YOU CONVICTS UNDERSTAND ANYTHING? LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
Can't speak for whomever these convicts are but I would think the USA military as well as their CIA should realize that's it's actions are like a boomerang effect but the innocent bystander who gets to be on the receiving end of the revenge makes it murder which is against the Quranic teachings that the brothers adhered to.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#39315 May 11, 2013
MalbarCACA Controllers wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have trouble understanding English, Bender CASTRATO? We care not about Muslims, what we dislike are fakes and pretentious DIMWITS.
It's quite simple:
We said:
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, Ades Bender sock puppet jimdians Sindian, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar,
gobbledegook Muzzie monkey chharchhobi ladygirl chickyladyrentboys Gallahs post or oink oink oink or CASTRATO discussion will be tolerated.
GO AWAY
If none of that can be tolerated,how can you tolerate yourself ?

Since: Apr 13

Camp Hill, Australia

#39316 May 11, 2013
Sullivan wrote:
Look at this unclean unkempt Hobo,
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/violent-...
Rot in Jail you Racist Hate Filled Vagrant, and when your jailers release you, go back to your Hate filled violent country from whence you came scum.
That filthy piece of pig shit will be swallowing Islamic cock in jail..
John

Brisbane, Australia

#39317 May 11, 2013
immigrant wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't addressing you slum-dog, sure you don't understand, you only understand Bombay smells, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL, feeling a little homesick are you wobble head? next time bark only when addressed,this lesson is for convicts only...LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,LLOL,
I think its you that doesn't understand the question,

What Muslim nation did you migrate from to Australia ?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#39318 May 11, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Day That Didn't Change A Thing

By Michael Robeson

September 11, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- Are Norwegians weird, or what? Seventy-seven of them get massacred by a killer who gets a prison term of only 21 years and they don't take to the streets in protest, even when their president, without a drop of machismo, says: "The bomb and bullets were aimed at changing Norway. The Norwegian people responded by embracing our values. The killer failed, the people won." What kind of boring values do Norwegians share? And what do they have against change?

Seventy-seven Norwegians may sound like chump change compared with the almost 3,000 Americans that died on the day that changed everything forever and ever Amen. But for Norway's 7 million people, last year's attacks killed proportionately more of them than the number of Americans killed on September 11, 2001. Norwegian politicians are not climbing over themselves demanding stricter national-security measures and citizens have not been Tea Partying in the streets crying for vengeance and clamoring for the death penalty. Those long winters must bleed the hot-bloodedness out of them.

In the US, "change" was the codeword of that day in 2001 and has become a political mantra ever since. Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel and now defense minister, got the ball rolling that morning when, interviewed on the British Broadcasting Corp, he announced: "The world will not be the same from today on ... This is the time to deploy a globally concerted effort ... against all sources of terror, consistently along six or 10 years ... Iran, Iraq, Libya."

It is not for us to discuss whether Barak was an all-seeing prophet or an all-powerful proponent. US president George W Bush, with his ear to the ground, followed up on his advice and kept to the message of "change is good", apart from encouraging Americans not to lose sight of their values, which involved his telling them to keep shopping. Some things just can't be changed; and Barack Obama's presidency, promoted by his catchy campaign slogan, shows that the more things change, the more they remain insane.


Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39319 May 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
The Day That Didn't Change A Thing
By Michael Robeson
September 11, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- Are Norwegians weird, or what? Seventy-seven of them get massacred by a killer who gets a prison term of only 21 years and they don't take to the streets in protest, even when their president, without a drop of machismo, says: "The bomb and bullets were aimed at changing Norway. The Norwegian people responded by embracing our values. The killer failed, the people won." What kind of boring values do Norwegians share? And what do they have against change?
Seventy-seven Norwegians may sound like chump change compared with the almost 3,000 Americans that died on the day that changed everything forever and ever Amen. But for Norway's 7 million people, last year's attacks killed proportionately more of them than the number of Americans killed on September 11, 2001. Norwegian politicians are not climbing over themselves demanding stricter national-security measures and citizens have not been Tea Partying in the streets crying for vengeance and clamoring for the death penalty. Those long winters must bleed the hot-bloodedness out of them.
In the US, "change" was the codeword of that day in 2001 and has become a political mantra ever since. Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel and now defense minister, got the ball rolling that morning when, interviewed on the British Broadcasting Corp, he announced: "The world will not be the same from today on ... This is the time to deploy a globally concerted effort ... against all sources of terror, consistently along six or 10 years ... Iran, Iraq, Libya."
It is not for us to discuss whether Barak was an all-seeing prophet or an all-powerful proponent. US president George W Bush, with his ear to the ground, followed up on his advice and kept to the message of "change is good", apart from encouraging Americans not to lose sight of their values, which involved his telling them to keep shopping. Some things just can't be changed; and Barack Obama's presidency, promoted by his catchy campaign slogan, shows that the more things change, the more they remain insane.
I have reported you for NEVER being on topic. People are sick of your posts as can be seen by their responses to you.

You continuously post on something that is not relevant to this thread and whilst you are at it you make derogatory comments about the people of Australia. You also denigrate Jews and I for one have had enough. I urge others on this forum to complain about the content of Mug's post and their irrelevance to the thread

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39322 May 11, 2013
Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?

" Islam has never favoured democratic tendencies..."
Hurgronje

" The Democratic system that is predominant in the world is not a suitable system for the peoples of our region... The system of free elections is not suitable to our country"
King Fahd of Saudi Arabia

At least King Fahd has had the honesty to admit the incompatibility of Islam and Democracy. Meanwhile Western Islamic apologists and modernising Muslims continue to look for democratic principles in Islam and Islamic history.



[A] Human Rights and Islam

Let us look at the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 and compare it to Islamic law and doctrine.

Article 1 " All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood ".

Article 2 " Everyone is entitled to all rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status ".

Article 3 " Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person "

Article 4 No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms "

Comments:(1) Women are inferior under Islamic law; their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of a man; their movement is strictly restricted, they cannot marry a non-Muslim

(2) Non - Muslims living in Muslim countries have inferior status under Islamic law, they may not testify against a Muslim. In Saudi Arabia, following a tradition of Muhammed who said " Two religions cannot exist in the country of Arabia ", non _ Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion, build churches, possess Bibles etc.

(3) Non-believers -- atheists (surely the most neglected minority in history)-- in Muslim countries do not have "the right to life ". They are to be killed. Muslim doctors of law generally divide sins into great sins and little sins. Of the seventeen great sins, unbelief is the greatest, more heinous than murder, theft, adultery etc..

(4) Slavery is recognised in the Koran. Muslims are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves (Sura iv.3); they are allowed to take possession of married women if they are slaves (Sura iv.28); the helpless position of the slave as regard his master illustrates the helpless position of the false gods of Arabia in the presence of their Creator (Sura xvi.77).

To be continued

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39323 May 11, 2013
Article 5 No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Comments (1) We have seen what punishments are in store for the transgressers of the Holy Law: amputations, crucifixion, stoning to death, floggings. I suppose a Muslim could argue that these were not unusual for a Muslim country, but what of their inhumanity? Again a Muslim could contend that they are of divine origin and must not be judged by human criteria. By human standards, they ARE inhuman.

Article 6 Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

The whole notion of a person who can make choice, and can be held morally responsible is lacking in Islam; as is the entire notion of human rights.

Articles 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 deal with the rights of an accused person to a fair trial.

Comments (1) As Schacht has shown under the Sharia considerations of good faith, fairness, justice, truth, and so on play only a subordinate role. The idea of criminal guilt is lacking.

(2) Revenge for a killing is officially sanctioned, though a money recompense is also possible.

(3) The legal procedure, under Islam, can hardly be called impartial or fair, for in the matter of witnesses all sorts of injustices emerge. A non _Muslim may not testify against a Muslim. For example, a Muslim may rob a non _Muslim in his home with impunity if there are no witnesses except the non_ Muslim himself. The evidence of Muslim women is admitted only very exceptionally and then only from twice the number required of men.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/isis/islamic_...

To be continued

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39325 May 11, 2013
Article 16 deals with the rights of marriage of men and women

Comment (1) As we shall see in our chapter on women, women under Islam do not have equal rights: they are not free to marry whom they wish, the rights of divorce are not equal.

Article 18 " Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance ".

Comments (1) Quite clearly under Islam, one does not have the right to change one's religion, if one is born into a Muslim family. Applying double standards, Muslims are quite happy to accept converts to their religion, but a Muslim may not convert to another religion, this would be apostasy which is punishable by death. Here is how the great commentator Baydawi (c.1291) sees the matter:

" Whosoever turns back from his belief, openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever you find him, like any other infidel. Separate yourself from him altogether. Do not accept intercession in his regard ".

Comment (2) Statistics on conversions from Islam to Christianity, and therefore apostasy, are hard to establish for obvious reasons. There is, however, a myth that Muslims are impossible to convert. On the contrary we do have enough evidence of literally thousands of Muslims abandoning Islam for Christ from the Middle Ages to Modern Times; the most spectacular cases being, amongst others, those of Moroccan and Tunisian princes in the 17th century, of the monk Constantin the African. Count Rudt - Collenberg has found evidence at the Casa dei Catecumeni at Rome of 1087 conversions between 1614 and 1798.According to A.T. Willis and others between two or three million Muslims converted to Christianity after the massacres of the communists in Indonesia, in 1965, described earlier [chapter x] In France alone, in the 1990s, there are two or three hundred converts to Christianity from Islam, EACH YEAR. According to Ann Mayer, in Egypt conversions have been " occurring with enough frequency to anger Muslim clerics and to mobilize conservative Muslim opinion behind proposals to enact a law imposing the death penalty for apostasy "[Mayer177]. Ms. Mayer points out that, in the past, many women have been to tempted to convert from Islam to ameliorate their lot.

Comment (3) Those who convert to Christianity and choose to stay in the Muslim country do so at great personal danger. The convert has most of his rights denied him, identity papers are often refused him, so that he has difficulties leaving his country; his marriage is declared null and void, his children are taken away from him to be brought up by Muslims, and he forfeits his rights of inheritance. Often the family will take matters into their own hands and simply assassinate the apostate; the family are, of course, not punished.[Gaudeul]

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/isis/islamic_...

TO BE CONTINUED

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39327 May 11, 2013
THIS ARTICLE IS DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO THE EXTERMINATORS.

Article 19 " Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinion without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers ".

Comments (1) The rights enshrined in articles 18 and 19 have been consistently violated in Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. In all three countries, the rights of their Bahai, Ahmadi and Shia minorities respectively have been denied. All three countries justify their actions by reference to Sharia. Christians in these countries are frequently arrested on charges of blasphemy and their rights denied.

Here is how Amnesty International describes the scene in Saudi Arabia: " Hundreds of Christians, including women and children have been arrested and detained over the past three years, most without charge or trial, solely for the peaceful expression of their religious beliefs. Scores have been tortured, some by flogging, while in detention... The possession of non_ Islamic religious objects - including Bibles, rosary beads, crosses and pictures of Jesus Christ __ is prohibited and such items may be confiscated. " AINO 62 JUly / Aug 1993

Similarly scores of Shia Muslims have been harassed, arrested, tortured and in some cases, beheaded. For example, on September 3, 1992 Sadiq Abdul Karim Malallah was publicly beheaded in al- Qatif after being convicted of apostasy and blasphemy. Sadiq, a Shia Muslim, was arrested in 1988 and charged with throwing stones at a police station, then of smuggling a Bible into the country. He was kept in solitary confinement, where he was tortured.

TO BE CONTINUED
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#39330 May 11, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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I have reported you for NEVER being on topic. People are sick of your posts as can be seen by their responses to you.
You continuously post on something that is not relevant to this thread and whilst you are at it you make derogatory comments about the people of Australia. You also denigrate Jews and I for one have had enough. I urge others on this forum to complain about the content of Mug's post and their irrelevance to the thread
I did not know that you own this thread.

And since when YOU are always on Topic?

Your aim is only to spread hate and hatred in all four directions. You were missing from this thread for some time.(May be spreading hate and hatred on other threads) and now you have come back and started from where you left off.

I never imagined how much hate and hatred can be concealed in a single human heart.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#39331 May 11, 2013
PPP wrote:
Akbar was uneducated in his early life. Then he started relaxing and thinking a lot, met the Jains and other atheists of India (various branches of hindus), he still considered himself to be a muslim, but did not kill all the Jains even after he learned of their denial of any and all gods. After he met many wise people, in peacetime, he started to think, his attitude took a philosophical turn. You dont always get an education in schools or madrasas classrooms, infact the best educations is often outside of classrooms and in the real world from real life experiences, if you are willing to PONDER and learn from them.

And as Akbar "EDUCATED HIMSELF" (the only way to a true education), he realized the importance of non violence from the Jains, Dharma and non violence in debate from other unnamed people, and life changed for him. THAT IS THE EDUCATION I WAS REFERRING TO, that he got from hindus. And he gave up Islam realizing its futility and falsehood.

Tolerance is like-'I dont really like them or their ways, but shall not kill them just for that.

So if islamists do not attack the atheists or reformists in Bangladesh, they would be considered tolerant. Remember you do not have to like them to not kill them, that is when you are tolerant. It depends ON YOU and not what anybody else says me or anyone else.


One day you will just wake up and realize your shackles are gone, and you are free.

That is exactly what is happening to so many who were born into a religion. But they do need to understand the concept of goodness and its importance in life or their will be anarchy.
I do not know how many Muslims left their religion and became Hindu in India...but I know many Hindus who left their religion and became Muslims after independence.


Ego seeds pride and blinds the minds eye. And one stops recognizing the simplest truths, and renders the mind from understanding the easiest of logics.

RE: Irrespective of what Muslims say or do:-
Ans.

There is no end to such type of endless discussions and no conclusion is possible.

The lessons from history is for every one to see.

Muslim rule was not as black as these British Historians want us to believe.

When Muslims came to India it was known all over the world for its wealth.

After 1000 years of Muslim rule in India, it was still known for its wealth (that is why British came to it in the first place).

And after a "mere" 100 years of British rule, when they left, India was a "poor third world country".

Who did more damage to India is for you to infer, I do not want to comment.

And in 1000 rules of Muslims, Hindus were not reduced to "below SC / ST status" as Muslims have been reduced in India after "just" 65 years of Hindu rule!!

You interpret the facts in any way you like.

We have had our say and I do not wish to prolong this discussion.

We are entitled to our views.

Have a nice day.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39332 May 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I did not know that you own this thread.
And since when YOU are always on Topic?
Your aim is only to spread hate and hatred in all four directions. You were missing from this thread for some time.(May be spreading hate and hatred on other threads) and now you have come back and started from where you left off.
I never imagined how much hate and hatred can be concealed in a single human heart.
I don't own the thread but I use and read this thread along with others and I expect its contents to be on topic. I am not the only one who has voiced the opinion that I have today so to trying to be sarcastic is like water off a duck's back.

I am sick of seeing your irrelevant posts on here and if possible I will lobby to have them removed for their irrelevance.

Take a good hard look at your own heart before you comment on others. There is a verse in Matthew which says" You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye" Try applying it to yourself
Sebastian

Floréal, Mauritius

#39334 May 11, 2013
The Exterminators wrote:
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You, imbecilic JHALLA Ghondoo SHEMALE.
We said:
No MalbarCACA IMPOSTOR, IDENTITY & Post THIEVES, PLAGIARIZERS, Black Dalit DALIT SteveDUMBASS SERVANTBOY ANARCHIST FUCKWITS, CACALIKI imbeciles, clowns, buffoons Gaand marau JHALLA Ghondoo SHEMALE DIMPRICKS, Ades Bender sock puppet Derpy Hooves, jimdians Sindian, Topix log accessors & mimickers dumb git proxy abusers, GOOD AUSSIES DEEPAK AngloIndian - Celt SWITCHERS Deepaks ONE EYED I love Allah BANDITs, HUNDUSTANI Poofters, Schleimscheißers, syphilitic malbar, gobbledegook Muzzie monkey chharchhobi ladygirl chickyladyrentboys, STU PIDEASS Muzzie Monkey Gallahs post or oink oink oink or CASTRAT, septic tank inhabitants discussion will be tolerated.
FOOK OFF BACK TO YOUR CACAHOLE pit latrines, septic tanks and HINDUSTINK cesspools.
What a shame on you Beady??Why don't you exterminate yourself from Topix!!You are such a bloody nuisance by not allowing decent people to have proper educated debate here.

If you want to play your monkey business I sugggest you volunteer yourself at the ZOO to perform your BATANGA BONG BONG.

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