Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46812 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#38802 Apr 22, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong, the followers of "Prince of Peace" have the honor of being the "Best Killing Machines" in the world.
They have shed the blood of most innocent people on this earth. The number of people killed during WW-1 and WW-2 itself (in which most of the active players were Christian nations) would surpass number of persons killed by people of other faiths.
These Bomb blasts kill people in tens and twenty's but USA in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed more than a million people, most of them innocent.
So your analysis of Islam being evil and producing killers is not correct.
It is people who preach "peace" are the ones who kill most people!!
This is one of these things, which are strange to believe but are true!!
Part of your problem, you stupid Muslim, is that you can't read properly.

I said it is only Muslims that have killed for religious purposes... Idiot !!
Other countries have killed to bring peace and law and order to different countries. But this is not what you stinking Muslims do, you kill for religious reasons.. Scum bag killers.

Here is just another example of what your Islam does to people!!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04...

You Muslims are just stinking scum bags, stay in the sh^tholes you built for yourselves, don't come to western countries, we hate you ugly fkrs..
MUQ illiterate

Australia

#38803 Apr 22, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
"Thenceforth were your (i.e. Jew's) hearts hardened: they became like a rock and even worse in hardness. For among rocks there are some from which rivers gush forth; others there are which when split asunder send forth water; and others which sink for fear of Allah, and Allah is not unmindful of what you do" (2:74)
MUQ you dont understand English or the Quran.
This is a allegory. A metaphor.
The river does not literally come out of a rock itself but gushes from' like water comes out of a Tap. The water source is thru the Tap or Rock, not emanating from within it.
Just like the black stone, your god does not live in the Rock, it's pieces of his face fallen from heaven.
I think this explains why you don't understand Islam or the Quran. You may have read the Quran (perhaps) but dont understand what the Arabic or translations actually mean.
This igonrance is called 'literalism', a common problem with muslims & Indians of which you are both.
For example Allah (via his Hubal replacement) said "you must pray 5 times a day prostrating to a rock etc but you must tie up your camels first".
That's in the Quran.
That means of you don't have a camel to tie up, you cannot pray. Literally. In Arabic & in English.
Do muslims believe they must have a camel & tie it up before they pray ?
No. Therefore under your logic all Muslims who pray without a tied up camel are sinners. They have disobeyed Allah and such sinners in Islam will be cast into hell, eat what cattle eat, and be covered in brimestone. That's what the Quran says.
Its a very badly written book, based on a false premise, plagiarism & deceit. Of all the holy books, it's the most inane, nonsensical & clearly false apostasy of all. Sort of like a really bad Arab comic book of some desert pagans all gathered around to tell tall tales, lies, and out do each other in appearing religious & solemn.
Often in the Quran the text and ideas are like they are all on drugs such is the flights of fancy & lack of structure or logic.
It's laughable that people could base an ideology or faith on it.
And as we know, very few Muslims read it & no rational person with logic would believe it.
No, it's left to the clerics to then 'translate' and 'intepret' the mish mash assembled by uthmam.
Only a fool would quote the Quran as evidence of god. The Quran itself proves Islam is fake.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38804 Apr 22, 2013
Serpent wrote:
<quoted text>
Part of your problem, you stupid Muslim, is that you can't read properly.
I said it is only Muslims that have killed for religious purposes... Idiot !!
Other countries have killed to bring peace and law and order to different countries. But this is not what you stinking Muslims do, you kill for religious reasons.. Scum bag killers.
Here is just another example of what your Islam does to people!!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04...
You Muslims are just stinking scum bags, stay in the sh^tholes you built for yourselves, don't come to western countries, we hate you ugly fkrs..
So it is OK to kill for "Non religious" purposes?

This is a strange angle to the problem!!

Your adding of those expletives just shows you have no answers to my pointers. It is Christians who have killed more number of humans than all the other religions combined.

Just shouting abuses and using slang language, will not get you out of the hole you are in!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38806 Apr 22, 2013
JB wrote:
01. But why MUQ ? why is that ? why would so many people who embrace your religion be so evil ? What is it with islam that it attracts so many evil people.

02. Threes an old saying in the west
` muslims kill, Christians forgive.`
Ans.

01. I do not know that most people who are Muslims are evil. And those who enter Islam becomes evil.

This is your wrong perception and there is no answer for that.

02. I know , you saying Christian forgiving?

Where was Christian forgiving in those Crusade wars and during the inquisition phase in Europe?

Where was Christian forgiving when you killed most of Red Indians in North and South America and Aborigines of Australia and New Zealand?

Where was Christian forgiving to the slaves they took from Africa and treated them worse than dogs in North and South America?

Where was Christian forgiving during WW-1 and WW-2 in which tens of millions of humans lost there lives?

Where was Christian forgiving in US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq in 2002 and 2003?

Where is Christian forgiving in GITMO and ABU GHARIB?

So like so many myths, this saying "Muslims kill and Christians forgive" is also a myth!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38807 Apr 22, 2013
RS wrote:
Q. what are the tests for a "successful" religion?

A. You don't know ? Peace. The opposite of what happens in the Muslim world.

Here's some more "Successful" Murders in your "Successful" Religion.
Ans.

This is your version. I do not see "peace" in your countries also, with daily quotas of Traffic accidents, murders, rapes, kidnappings, domestic violence, suicides, mental sickness, old age homes,…

Where is the "peace"? It is state of mind really !!
immigrant

Australia

#38808 Apr 23, 2013
ignorant bogan convicts can bark all they like against Islam, but the educated pig munchers at least recognize truth

Misunderstanding Islam
By John Alden Williams

I have been given the theme "The Message of History" today. A message is delivered to a place and time. Our Creator has delivered us to this day, through centuries of history, to begin the year 2004 of the Common Era. We, our successes and our failures, are a message people need to take to heart. I must be brief, and I want to talk about the most serious religious crisis of our time. It is the rift that certain fundamentalists--Christians, Jews and Muslims--are trying to open between Christianity and Islam, the two largest religions on the planet. Sadly, some people are seeking to foster hatred and religious war on both sides. The sort of misinformation that is being disseminated among Christians and Jews is quite alarming and distressing. Some of it is outright falsehood.

For example, one thing you may hear today is that Muslims do not worship God, they worship something else called Allah. But Allah is simply the Arabic word for "God." It is closely related to the word for God, Alaha, in Aramaic, the language that Jesus and his disciples spoke, a language still spoken in a few areas in the Middle East. If you are an Arab Christian, or Arabic speaking Jew or Muslim, you pray to Allah. To question that is like arguing that French speakers don't worship God, they worship something else called "dieu". Muslims worship the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus, and anyone who opens an English translation of the Qur'an will see that.

Jerry Vines, former head of the Southern Baptist Convention, has described the beloved Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, as a "demon-obsessed pedophile." Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, who also gave the invocation at President Bush's inauguration, describes Islam as "a very evil and false religion." Jon Hanna, an evangelical minister from Ohio who edits Connection Magazine in that state, also describes Islam as "false." He cited the 1st epistle of St John (2: 21): "The one who denies that Jesus is the Christ, he is the liar. He is the Antichrist." Mr Hanna then concluded: "The Muslim religion is an antichrist religion."

Yet this is a barefaced lie. The Qur'an, or Recitation of the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad, the holy book of Islam, always refers to Jesus as "the Messiah." Christos or Christ is only a Greek translation of the Aramaic and Hebrew word, "messiah." The Qur'an also refers to Jesus as the word of God and spirit from Him, born of the sinless virgin Mary, "purified above all women," and it gives more space to Mary than the New Testament does. I know a number of Muslims who ask "our Lady Mary" for her intercession every day.
immigrant

Australia

#38809 Apr 23, 2013
There are several shrines in the Middle East where Christians and Muslims honor Mary side by side and ask her to pray for them. I have never heard, and never expect to hear, any Muslim insult the name of Jesus. It would be a rejection of what Islam has taught them, that he was the promised messiah, that he ascended to heaven, and that he will come again before the world ends.

Still another word you often hear is that Islam fosters hatred, violence, and religious warfare. I want to spend a bit of time on this, because it is so widespread a misunderstanding. Jews are told to take an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Christians are told that when smitten, they should turn the other cheek-although I have met very few of them who actually do that. Muslims on the other hand are told in their revelation to resist oppression, even at great personal cost, because otherwise one is only assisting the oppressor to oppress, and God hates oppressors. This is basic to Islamic ethics, and we need to understand it.

A related matter much misunderstood is the doctrine of jihad in Islam. It means "virtuous striving," and that is a matter the Qur'an lays great stress on. "Did you suppose that you would enter Paradise without God knowing who among you have striven and are patient?" (Qur'an 3: 147).

Living a good Muslim life, praying ritually five times a day, keeping the hard fast of Ramadan, going on the arduous Pilgrimage to Mecca, giving generously to the poor, rearing one's offspring in the fear of God, is all of it a jihad.

"You shall believe in God and in His messenger, and strive with your possessions and with your selves. That is better for you, did you but know" (61:11). "O you who have faith, fear God, seek means to come to Him, and strive for His sake; so may you prosper" (5: 54).

The early Muslims had to strive also in battle against attacks by their enemies. The Qur'an states the circumstances in which and Islamic state ruled by Islamic law, or an imperiled Islamic community, may resort to war. These are:

1. When there is a grave and sudden threat to religion. "And if God did not repel some people by others, then cloisters, churches, synagogues and mosques wherein God's name is much remembered would have been pulled down. And surely God will help one who helps Him, surely God is strong and mighty" (22:40).

2. When Muslims are subjected to oppression. "And what reason have you not to fight in the way of God, and of the weak among the men and women and children who say,'Our Lord, take us out of this city, whose people are oppressors. Grant us from Thee a friend, and grant us from Thee a helper'" (4:75).

3. When Muslims are forced out of their land. "And fight in the way of God those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Surely God loves not the aggressors" (2: 190). "Whoever retaliates with the like of that with which they are afflicted and are again oppressed, God will surely help him" (22: 60). "To fight in the Holy Month is a serious matter, but to bar from God's way, and the Holy Mosque, and to expel its people, is yet more serious in God's sight; the disorder is worse than slaying" (2: 217).

4. When political entities commit deliberate breaches of treaties and pacts. "Those with whom you make an agreement, who then break their agreement every time, and keep not their duty. If they break their oaths after their agreements and revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief- because surely their oaths mean nothing-so that they may desist" (9: 12).

Can you understand that in the eyes of many Muslims, Palestinians (for an example) have now been put in that position where they must resist? Suicide is forbidden in Islam, and very rare in Islamic societies, but if one must sacrifice one's life in order to help the oppressed (and when one reaches that point is a matter of interpretation), most religions consider it an heroic action.
immigrant

Australia

#38810 Apr 23, 2013
Muslims are also explicitly instructed in the Qur'an that all acts of war by them must cease immediately if their enemies sue for peace, pledge to end persecution and oppression, and sincerely undertake to abide by their oaths and covenants. "But if they desist, then surely God is Forgiving, Merciful" (2: 192). "And if they incline to peace, then incline thou also to it, and trust in God. Surely He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing " (8: 61).

The issue of deterrence is also discussed in the Qur'an. "And make ready for them whatever force you can, and [have] horses tied at the frontier, to frighten thereby the enemy of God, and your enemy, and others beside them, whom you know not-God knows them" (8-60). Thus Muslims are ordered to be ready for war, not in order to start it, but to keep their enemy from disturbing the peace.

So far as war for the propagation of faith is concerned, such a thing is not mentioned even once in the Qur'an. This fact should be a revelation for those who think that Islam requires its followers to fight for the spread of their religion.

This is something we and our statesmen need to be aware of: over a billion Muslims believe that they are divinely ordered to refrain from aggression, and also to resist attacks and oppression. Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion. If Muslims continue to be misunderstood and slandered, they can cause great pain to the world's societies.

John Alden Williams

Retired Wm R. Kenan Jr Professor of the Humanities in Religion

The College of William & Mary in Virginia.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#38811 Apr 23, 2013
immigrant wrote:
ignorant bogan convicts can bark all they like against Islam, but the educated pig munchers at least recognize truth
Misunderstanding Islam
By John Alden Williams
I have been given the theme "The Message of History" today. A message is delivered to a place and time. Our Creator has delivered us to this day, through centuries of history, to begin the year 2004 of the Common Era. We, our successes and our failures, are a message people need to take to heart. I must be brief, and I want to talk about the most serious religious crisis of our time. It is the rift that certain fundamentalists--Christians, Jews and Muslims--are trying to open between Christianity and Islam, the two largest religions on the planet. Sadly, some people are seeking to foster hatred and religious war on both sides. The sort of misinformation that is being disseminated among Christians and Jews is quite alarming and distressing. Some of it is outright falsehood.
For example, one thing you may hear today is that Muslims do not worship God, they worship something else called Allah. But Allah is simply the Arabic word for "God." It is closely related to the word for God, Alaha, in Aramaic, the language that Jesus and his disciples spoke, a language still spoken in a few areas in the Middle East. If you are an Arab Christian, or Arabic speaking Jew or Muslim, you pray to Allah. To question that is like arguing that French speakers don't worship God, they worship something else called "dieu". Muslims worship the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus, and anyone who opens an English translation of the Qur'an will see that.
Jerry Vines, former head of the Southern Baptist Convention, has described the beloved Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, as a "demon-obsessed pedophile." Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, who also gave the invocation at President Bush's inauguration, describes Islam as "a very evil and false religion." Jon Hanna, an evangelical minister from Ohio who edits Connection Magazine in that state, also describes Islam as "false." He cited the 1st epistle of St John (2: 21): "The one who denies that Jesus is the Christ, he is the liar. He is the Antichrist." Mr Hanna then concluded: "The Muslim religion is an antichrist religion."
Yet this is a barefaced lie. The Qur'an, or Recitation of the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad, the holy book of Islam, always refers to Jesus as "the Messiah." Christos or Christ is only a Greek translation of the Aramaic and Hebrew word, "messiah." The Qur'an also refers to Jesus as the word of God and spirit from Him, born of the sinless virgin Mary, "purified above all women," and it gives more space to Mary than the New Testament does. I know a number of Muslims who ask "our Lady Mary" for her intercession every day.
They might as well ask for the intersession of Oprah for all the good it will do.
NSF

Australia

#38813 Apr 23, 2013
More crap from a Muslim fanatic devil murdering & pedo cult miracle & object worshippers.
Allah is a god of the quareesh pagans of Mecca.
Allah was worshipped via Hubal, a stone idol purchased from syria in 180 ad.
For over 4 centuries the ishmaelites worshipped Jehovah (in a enthic variant of Judaism) as opposed to the quareesh who worshipped Allah a nature moon god via Hubal.
muhhammad in 624 ad replaced Jehovah the god of the jews, with Allah the moon god of the quareesh. He then replaced Hubal (allahs messenger & earth idol) with himself.
Muhhammad & Abu rewrote the ishmaelites script into an aposasty pagan worship that is godless & without logic. Uthman then binned what were 18 variant qurans, burnt them & wrote his own.
Allah the moon god of the quareesh was a long established pagan moon god - since mecca's first founding in 150 ad - that was never idolized by the Jews or Arab ishmaelites, ie never Jehovah.
The historical evidence is overwhelming to this fact - in all recorded history prior and when muhhamads committed his heretical apostasy.
The Quran itself documents the jews are lying & hiding 'the real god' from them, that it is not jehovah or elioh etc but is in fact the god of the heavens whose little pieces (black stone) of him have fallen from heaven = Allah !
This is why Muslims worship the fake black stone (as it is) because Allah is the moon god akbhar or the biggest thing in heaven...
Abdullah, the pagan foster father of Muhammad name means 'slave of Allah'. He didnt even know who Jevohah was..
Muslims are really screwed up on the plot holes of Islam.

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38815 Apr 23, 2013
NSF wrote:
More crap from a Muslim fanatic devil murdering & pedo cult miracle & object worshippers.
Allah is a god of the quareesh pagans of Mecca.
Allah was worshipped via Hubal, a stone idol purchased from syria in 180 ad.
For over 4 centuries the ishmaelites worshipped Jehovah (in a enthic variant of Judaism) as opposed to the quareesh who worshipped Allah a nature moon god via Hubal.
muhhammad in 624 ad replaced Jehovah the god of the jews, with Allah the moon god of the quareesh. He then replaced Hubal (allahs messenger & earth idol) with himself.
Muhhammad & Abu rewrote the ishmaelites script into an aposasty pagan worship that is godless & without logic. Uthman then binned what were 18 variant qurans, burnt them & wrote his own.
Allah the moon god of the quareesh was a long established pagan moon god - since mecca's first founding in 150 ad - that was never idolized by the Jews or Arab ishmaelites, ie never Jehovah.
The historical evidence is overwhelming to this fact - in all recorded history prior and when muhhamads committed his heretical apostasy.
The Quran itself documents the jews are lying & hiding 'the real god' from them, that it is not jehovah or elioh etc but is in fact the god of the heavens whose little pieces (black stone) of him have fallen from heaven = Allah !
This is why Muslims worship the fake black stone (as it is) because Allah is the moon god akbhar or the biggest thing in heaven...
Abdullah, the pagan foster father of Muhammad name means 'slave of Allah'. He didnt even know who Jevohah was..
Muslims are really screwed up on the plot holes of Islam.
From where you got this word Jehovah? It was never in the Bible!!

Since: Apr 13

Brisbane, Australia

#38817 Apr 23, 2013
Judge islam by the deeds of its followers.
mulims kill, Christians forgive.

Islamist militants in Somalia have killed the widow of a Christian who was slain for his faith in December, leaving the couple’s five children orphaned, sources said.

Islamic extremist Al Shabaab rebels shot 42-year-old Fartun Omar to death on April 13 in Buulodbarde, 20 kilometers (12 miles) from Beledweyne, according to Abdi Aziz Suleiman of Radio Shebelle in Beledweyne. The extremists had been searching for her for several months, as they knew that she was a secret Christian like her late husband, Mursal Isse Siad, sources said.

Siad had been receiving death threats for leaving Islam. After his death, initially Omar fled the area with her five children and at one time had received protection from from African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) soldiers, sources said.

“A week before she was killed, rumors were flying that the Al Shabaab were looking for her,” one of Omar’s neighbors said.

Due to the threat of persecution, Omar on April 10 decided to leave the central Somalian city of Beledweyne by bus with another neighbor to seek refuge with relatives, the first neighbor said. On reaching Buulobarde, which is controlled by Al Shabaab, militants at a roadblock ordered passengers to disembark and questioned them one by one.

“Unfortunately, she was not cleared by the Al Shabaab,” said the neighbor who accompanied her.“I only heard one of them saying,‘This is the woman whose husband was killed last year. Do not let her in.’”

The other passengers were allowed to board again, and the bus left, with Omar’s neighbor suddenly responsible for caring for her children. The oldest is a 15-year-old girl.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38818 Apr 23, 2013
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)

How the CIA Coordinated a Campaign of Disinformation



Furthermore, the speech referred to, contrary to CBS’s false claim, was not about WMD. Saddam rather had spoken explicitly with reference to Iraq’s conventional arsenal of weapons. He spoke of how the U.S. had “used the United Nations as a cover” to pursue its own agenda and then added,“However, we must protect our country because we will not give them Iraq. We do not like to collect weapons for the sake of collecting weapons. But we consider the provision of the necessary means to protect our country an ethical and moral responsibility that every Iraqi man and woman must shoulder.” He was thus speaking specifically of Iraq’s right to self-defense and of maintaining a capability to exercise that right.

He continued on to say that Iraq would be “most enthusiastic” to limit its weapons, so long as Israel—which had bombed Iraq in 1983, a watershed event that precipitated Saddam’s decision to try to develop a nuclear weapon to deter any further such attacks—did the same:“We told President Husni Mubarak: You can go ahead and announce that the Arabs are prepared to join any treaty to rid the region of the so-called weapons of mass destruction. We told him: This does not mean only ballistic missiles, which are no more than artillery of a longer range.” The condition for this proposed disarmament was “that the Zionist entity is the first to sign such a treaty.”

And while Saddam had used the words “weapons of mass destruction”, he was explicitly referring to long-range ballistic missiles, which, although proscribed for Iraq under U.N. resolutions, were nevertheless conventional weapons—hence his description of them as “so-called” WMD.“If the world tells us to abandon all our weapons and keep only swords,” Saddam continued,“we will do that. We will destroy all the weapons, if they destroy their weapons. But if they keep a rifle and then tell me that I have the right to possess only a sword, then we would say no.”

The CIA document concludes that intelligence analysts had wrongly assessed Iraq’s WMD capabilities on the grounds that:“A liability of intelligence analysis is that once a party has been proven to be an effective deceiver, that knowledge becomes a heavy factor in the calculations of the analytical observer.” But, remarkably, while making vague judgments about the bias of analysts such as this one, the document does not address any of the actual intelligence underlying a single one of the claims made by government officials in their efforts to manufacture consent for the war on Iraq. An examination of the claims that were made and the actual intelligence underlying them reveals the fact that, for the most part, the intelligence community had not failed in its assessments of Iraq’s WMD capabilities. On the contrary, the top analysts in their respective area of expertise on numerous key claims from the Bush administration in making its case for war had correctly assessed that Iraq had no such WMD capabilities.

Since: Apr 13

Brisbane, Australia

#38819 Apr 23, 2013
Judge islam by the deeds of its followers.
muslims kill, Christians forgive.

Islamist militants in Somalia have killed the widow of a Christian who was slain for his faith in December, leaving the couple’s five children orphaned, sources said.

Islamic extremist Al Shabaab rebels shot 42-year-old Fartun Omar to death on April 13 in Buulodbarde, 20 kilometers (12 miles) from Beledweyne, according to Abdi Aziz Suleiman of Radio Shebelle in Beledweyne. The extremists had been searching for her for several months, as they knew that she was a secret Christian like her late husband, Mursal Isse Siad, sources said.

Siad had been receiving death threats for leaving Islam. After his death, initially Omar fled the area with her five children and at one time had received protection from from African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) soldiers, sources said.

“A week before she was killed, rumors were flying that the Al Shabaab were looking for her,” one of Omar’s neighbors said.

Due to the threat of persecution, Omar on April 10 decided to leave the central Somalian city of Beledweyne by bus with another neighbor to seek refuge with relatives, the first neighbor said. On reaching Buulobarde, which is controlled by Al Shabaab, militants at a roadblock ordered passengers to disembark and questioned them one by one.

“Unfortunately, she was not cleared by the Al Shabaab,” said the neighbor who accompanied her.“I only heard one of them saying,‘This is the woman whose husband was killed last year. Do not let her in.’”
The Australian

Sydney, Australia

#38820 Apr 24, 2013
rOGER wrote:
I believe if they want to build their own schools for their own children, MOVE BACK to where they came from and open the schools there. I'm sure there is more than enough land and no one will bother them except their government looking for money.
I fully agree with you Roger send them all back where they came from
immigrant

Australia

#38821 Apr 24, 2013
Hey convicts, good read about your daddy America.........

Fig Leaf Nation

When any man falls, we laugh, and when an upright citizen is exposed as just ordinary slime, we hoot and holler. Glad it ain’t me, we reflect. At least I’m not important enough to be publicly shamed. Rest assured, us nobodies could disseminate a steady stream of spine chilling pics of our hirsute or well-shaved shady regions and nothing would happen.

So big man LeBron got upstaged by little J. J. Barea, generously listed at 6 feet even. LeBron couldn’t score when it mattered. He talked big, but acted tiny. His mouth was huge. His deed puny. He shrank before climax. Many of us little people, so miniscule we’re invisible, got a big kick out of witnessing the biggest man, a self proclaimed King, brought down to size.

It’s always about sex, of course, and all performances are sexual auditions in disguise. At least Congressman Weiner thought so, for he sought to convert his public, well-dressed success into a series of ego-swelling, virtual striptease for half a dozen, oh so lucky (?) ladies. It was all a harmless prank, Weiner thought, because he hadn’t done anything but sent out pixels of his relatively adorable or icky self. Everybody is doing it. Hall of Fame football players, teens, preteens, grandmas. What’s the harm, really, aren’t we here to spread the joy? Shouldn’t we all be virtual friends, at least, with virtual benefits? Like countless men before him, Weiner also figured that public triumphs ought to be redeemable as private, sexual rewards, but since Weiner is not JFK or even Clinton, his mistresses are no fleshy Monroe or Lewinski, but wi-fi mirages of an ex porn star, a black jack dealer and a get-out-of-my-face college student.

So LeBron and Weiner have been stripped of their fancy fig leaves, but the most elaborate loin cloth of all is the one still taped to the groins of America. Uncle Sam talks a big game, still blusters about universal freedom, democracy and economic recovery, but what’s left, really, behind that humongous cod piece?

America hides behind state of the art fig leaves. She has long led the world in well-designed, colorful and seductive packaging. Don’t worry about substance, just jazz up the graphic design. Wrapped well, even crap will sell. It’s all packaging, advertising and public relations.

Sport arenas are themselves fig leaves. In city after city, stadia are the best, most impressive pieces of architecture, with the televised fans neatly dressed and well groomed. Slobs in the cheap seats are not visible, but the biggest, fattest slobs are priced out of these spectacles altogether. Drowning out guns and sirens, they can cheer from home, in their distressed neighborhoods. Who else but the well-heeled can afford these hundred-dollar tickets, not to mention overpriced parking, food and drinks?

Beyond the outfield is gorgeous downtown, with their phallic banks jutting into the sky. Americans get their glimpses of distant cities most often through sporting events, so with these slick, beautiful stadia and postcard perfect downtowns, everything looks first rate and first world, still.

In slums across America, you can go for a mile or two without sighting a supermarket or a bank, only donut or fried chicken shacks, check cashing agencies, liquor emporia and store front churches. Though ubiquitous and spreading, this America is almost never seen.

A block may be half abandoned, yet each occupied home, even one with a leaky roof or collapsed porch, will sport a working satellite dish so images of a glamorized normalcy can be beamed in nightly. White, black, brown or yellow, most Americans look fantastic on television, don’t they? All of television is a commercial for its host society. This is how we live and play, or, rather, this is how we want you to believe how we live and play. All of television is a fig leaf.
immigrant

Australia

#38822 Apr 24, 2013
Take New Jersey.(Please.) On television, it’s an ocean lapped playground where a nice tan and decent sex are the only aims and worries, but in real life, a desperate Atlantic City casino has just added a “naked circus” to draw in customers. In South Jersey, three women were just arrested for removing 380 military grave markers, plus flower urns, from cemeteries and selling them for scraps. Some of these date back to the Civil War. The same week, Camden firefighters battling an arson, set in a long abandoned factory, had to draw water from the river because nearby hydrants had been vandalized. Their brass threadings had been stolen and sold for scraps. In Trenton, a twelve-year-old boy was arrested for armed robbery.

How much can you get for a bit of brass, you may wonder? But when people are desperate, they’ll resort to anything. In Philadelphia, I often see men pushing shopping carts filled with aluminum cans. Scavenging, they can make about 20 bucks a day, though one claimed he earned 50 daily.“I have to get up at five every day,” he proudly said. An impressive dude, he even wore a work uniform with a “SERVICE” patch on his chest. In Denver, one man explained that to make a single buck, you have to walk a mile. In Detroit, 500 bricks will fetch you a hundred dollars, and I saw two young men trying to knock down an abandoned
factory wall with hammers.

Is it that bad? Of course, it’s that bad, but you wouldn’t know it from the mainstream media. There are more than four available workers for each job opening, but that’s the official statistic, so you can double it. When McDonald’s had a national job fair recently, a million people filled applications, but only 62,000, or 6.2%, were hired. A McDonald’s job used to be the last resort, a joke, really, but now it has become an out-of-reach, first aspiration for many Americans. I know a recent law school graduate who considers himself lucky to be employed as a manager at Subway. An ex security guard told me he had applied for over a hundred jobs in six states. Out of options, this 34-year-old was thinking of joining the Army.

Except as criminals or horny garbage, desperate Americans rarely make the news, yet stories like “Celebrities Out of Makeup,”“Celebrity Styles Worth Stealing” and “Michelle Obama Steps Out in $29 Gap Dress,” etc., have become national fare, presented each day for our contemplation and edification. Evening, we can sit behind our triple bolted doors and stare at a televised ballgame in a beautiful stadium, with a serene yet virile skyline in the background.

But at street level, even the beautiful downtowns are showing cracks, with commercial spaces at prime business spots abandoned. It is now customary to cover empty stores with large photos or false fronts touting their potentials. Imaginary, well dressed clients are tastefully displayed, and over them, the screaming pitches. IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES! PICTURE YOURSELF HERE! YOUR RESTAURANT HERE!

Across America, these potemkin hallucinations are mushrooming, and in New Orleans, I even saw a smallish, much graffitied shell of a building projected as a future time travel terminal! Among the destinations, Paris 1968, San Francisco 1957, Berlin 1973, Enlightenment, Garden of Eden and Victory Condition. It is telling that no recent years are on offer, no 2001 or 2008, for example. The current mantra of recovery, recovery means that Americans would rather not be in the here and now, but as things get even worse, we may yet develop a nostalgia for this frustrating, desperate and confusing era. As hard as it is to believe, we may grow to miss 2011.
immigrant

Australia

#38823 Apr 24, 2013
Thanks to resource depletion, primarily oil, the entire global economy is contracting, but this crisis has been compounded by corruption, misallocation and waste, with none greater than the trillions our Pentagon spends on its six, is it six?, illegal wars. As the United States shrinks, its bright, kinetic fig leaf will swell until the country is nothing but giant fig leaf masking the rot and emptiness within. Don’t bother switching the channel, because it will only be the same show at another station. Try looking outside.

Did you understand anything peasants?
MUQ confused again

Australia

#38825 Apr 24, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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From where you got this word Jehovah? It was never in the Bible!!
MUQ. You are so ignorant and naive about everything. You suffer from Muslim literalism.
Once you overcome that, you will then understand Islam is a poor aposasty, and if you have courage & a clear head, you will then reject Islam & step into the light.

Jehovah is the westernized (13th century) name for yaweh. It is the phonetic spelling. Going back - Yaweh was the name for YHWH (ie vowels were added).
Jehovah, Yaweh, Elioh, YHWH are all the same representation of the god of Abraham.
The ishmaelites worshipped YHWH.
The bible speaks of YHWH, Yahweh, Jevohah as the same god. A god of the Jews.
So you are incorrect & clearly not understand.
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Allah was a moon god of the quareesh.
In medina for example pagan Arabs worshipped nature gods like Allah OR they aligned with the Jews via the book of T'ubah to worship Yahweh (Jehovah). Quite seperate gods & beliefs.
Thus Allah was never worshipped as a god of Abraham. Allah was originally the Assyrian moon god Sin, worshipped via Hubal.
Hubal was the lord of the Kaaba, a stone idol that provided divinity from Allah via pointed arrows when tribute was paid to the qureesh family that owned and operated the idol.
Allah was a seperate & competing nature god with idol representation, something Abraham &
the Jews had long rejected. As had the ishmaelites.
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Muhammad hijacked both the Allah (sabian or moon god sin) cult & the ishmaelite cult & synthesized them into his heretical aposasty.
Islam is based on a quareesh moon god.
Islam worships a Kaaba not even built until 2,700 years after Abraham expired. Mecca did not exist until 150 ad. Hubal, the Allah idol & 'messenger' on earth (that Muhammad replaced) wasnt even purchased until 180ad. Allah competed with 360 other gods & idols at Mecca.
Abraham never went to Mecca, the records show it didn't even exist until 150 ad when first set up as a trading stop.
The kaaba did not exist as a cube building until 450ad, prior to that it was a platform and then an open area under a tent.
Hagar & Ishmael never went to Mecca, it didn't exist, and parahan or the wilderness is 1,300 km to the west - that's what the bible & ishmaelites record before muhammads lies.
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the point here is the irony of a half literate Indian Muslim thinking that because the bible or Talmud uses an evolved word for the same god, then somehow that excuses the lies of Islam.
Muhhammad made an absolute mish mash mess of concocting a fake synthetic of pagan, jewish & enthic Arab beliefs into a relgion.
The Quran is a poor copy of other beliefs. then rendered into apostasy and blatant lies.
As the world become more informed, as the historical & archeological evidence is pieced together...
the more obvious it becomes that Islam is a confected fakery cobbled together by a murderous & pedophiliac Arab imposter to justify
his sin against others.
That 1,400 years later, we still have naive & ignorant believers of such rubbish shows the gullibility and entrappment of those silly enough to ignore the evidence that what they beileve in is fake.
All that can be done is to give them the facts, and try and save them from themselves.

The SWAT TEAM

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#38826 Apr 24, 2013
MUQ confused again wrote:
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Your downfall is complete. You're FACKED, pincered and disgraced.

Return to your cesspool and pit latrine coward, yellow belly, piss weak wimp, Liar, con artist supreme, falsifier, fraud, lowlife poltroon, gutless lily-livered pansy weakling, cheat, charlatan, conniver, fake, reprobate, scallywag, shyster, scammer, deceiver, pretentious scallywag, worthless phony, charade and travesty.

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