Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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Australia

#36693 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36694 Feb 4, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
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Its interesting to here a muslims perspective on what they concider as success in the name of there religion.
MUQ judges the success of his religion as its conquring of non muslim peacefull nations but ignors the damage his religion does to those nations and its peole and culture.
MUQ doesnt judge his religion by how inriching it is to other cultures or how rightous and better the people become because his religion would fail that test.
islam can only be judged succesfully by the damage it causes because thats all it really achieves once it arrives.
Well done islam..........
Meaning you have no answer to my observations.

What is success in your view?

To exterminate all Red Indians? To kill every Aborigine from the lands?

To fight and kill and use Atomic Bombs to silent your enemies?

To take over countries and try to run it like "your own backyard" and leave it without doing anything for it?

Or continue bombing and fighting in a small country for eleven long years and getting nothing and doing nothing for its welfare?

Let us see what is your definition of success and how Christianity has become a successful religion while Islam is a failure?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36695 Feb 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
MUQ; Your prophet established the Kingdom of Heaven in Arabia ,why then is this Kingdom so splintered throughout the modern world ?
He started the mission and brought it to perfection in the land of his birth, then he left more than 125,000 of his dedicated followers and told them to spread the same message to rest of the world.

Since he was the Last and Final Prophet and no prophet shall come after him, that is why he left the job to propagate Islam to his followers and those who shall come after him.

In his last sermon on the Farewell Pilgrimage, he took the testimony from those present before him "You shall be asked in the hereafter about me, have I delivered the message to you or not?"

The multitude replied "Yes, O messenger of Allah, we testify that you delivered the message and fulfilled your trust and instructed us as befitting to your position"

Thereupon the Prophet, took his fingers to Heavens and said "O Allah , bear witness to this". He repeated it three times and then said "Let those present here deliver the message to those who are absent"

And that is the trust which Muslims of all ages have to bear.

Muslim nation remain united for long time, but then they broke into sects and nations, not because it is teaching of Islam but because of their own greed and gather as much fame and wealth and position as they could and deny others any chance.

The fault lies neither with Islam, Quran, Prophet or Islamic teachings. It is fault of Muslims who do not act on the principles of islam.
Tom

Australia

#36696 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Success story?
A faith started by a Single person, who was double orphan and did not possess any material wealth and support of no state army or any other physical means of support.....grew to become one of the Largest faith on the face of this world?
There is hardly any country any city where believers of his faith are not available.
And there is no race, no language in which his followers are not available.
What else is success?
The more its enemies unite against it, the faster it grows!1
What else is success?
Look at Communism, with how much funfare it was launched? Every one looked upon it as "Philosophy for next world order". What happened? It collapsed under the weight of its own convictions. It caused maximum harm and pain to the class it came to defend. Farmers and Workers!!
Was that a Success?
I don't give a frig about communism Who cares !! Who cares about Jews..... Who cares about you !!

We care about the truth that you hide and avoid.....

TITLE :

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

We care about people that destroy their homeland then flee to our country and cause trouble.

http://www.news.com.au/national/police-use-pe...

The muslim world is a dismal failure, Point out the success you talking about, how about a single fact ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#36697 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
He started the mission and brought it to perfection in the land of his birth, then he left more than 125,000 of his dedicated followers and told them to spread the same message to rest of the world.
Since he was the Last and Final Prophet and no prophet shall come after him, that is why he left the job to propagate Islam to his followers and those who shall come after him.
In his last sermon on the Farewell Pilgrimage, he took the testimony from those present before him "You shall be asked in the hereafter about me, have I delivered the message to you or not?"
The multitude replied "Yes, O messenger of Allah, we testify that you delivered the message and fulfilled your trust and instructed us as befitting to your position"
Thereupon the Prophet, took his fingers to Heavens and said "O Allah , bear witness to this". He repeated it three times and then said "Let those present here deliver the message to those who are absent"
And that is the trust which Muslims of all ages have to bear.
Muslim nation remain united for long time, but then they broke into sects and nations, not because it is teaching of Islam but because of their own greed and gather as much fame and wealth and position as they could and deny others any chance.
The fault lies neither with Islam, Quran, Prophet or Islamic teachings. It is fault of Muslims who do not act on the principles of islam.
Who are the culprits responsible for what you say MUQ ?
The sIndians Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36698 Feb 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are the culprits responsible for what you say MUQ ?
For what you say who are they, Tootsie?

PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR TurdBender F*CKWIT.

NEVER RETURN
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36699 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Meaning you have no answer to my observations.
What is success in your view?
To exterminate all Red Indians? To kill every Aborigine from the lands?
To fight and kill and use Atomic Bombs to silent your enemies?
To take over countries and try to run it like "your own backyard" and leave it without doing anything for it?
Or continue bombing and fighting in a small country for eleven long years and getting nothing and doing nothing for its welfare?
Let us see what is your definition of success and how Christianity has become a successful religion while Islam is a failure?
Meaning you have no answer to my observations.

What is success in your view?

ANS- Success is the rightous worship of a loving god and tollerence for all mankind, not killing infadels, minoritys, Jews or Christians as commanded by your death cult.

To exterminate all Red Indians? To kill every Aborigine from the lands?

ANS- Red Indians and Abo`s exist succesfully in both communities unlike what would have happened had they been discovered by muslim hoards who would have eaten there babies.

To fight and kill and use Atomic Bombs to silent your enemies?

ANS- Which enemy, Oh you mean the one who started WW2 and are responsable for the biggest masacare of human life in modern times who had every chance to cease agresion before deciding there fate ?
islam would use nukes to start a war, allies used them to stop one.

To take over countries and try to run it like "your own backyard" and leave it without doing anything for it?

ANS- What,,,you mean like the muslim hoards are currently doing in syria and all the african nations,,,,enriching there lives....

Or continue bombing and fighting in a small country for eleven long years and getting nothing and doing nothing for its welfare?

ANS- As upose to slaughtering young girls in other nations for simply wanting an education or marrying someone they choose in stead of some 90yr old saudi pervert.

Let us see what is your definition of success and how Christianity has become a successful religion while Islam is a failure?

ANS- Christianitys success is proven by the quality of the nations of today in which every muslim who hates there failed home land comes running too, seeking assylum and permision to live in, and the only Christian who goes to a muslim land is to offer the help that the locals dont get from there domestic leaders of islam.
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36700 Feb 4, 2013
islam and its followers spreading its love in Mali.
Christians are there helping those who need it but muslims are rapping women, is the the success of islam MUQ????

The harsh reality inflicted on the people of Timbuktu by al-Qaeda and its allies is betrayed by the ordeal of Azahara Abdou Maiga.

Five of the Islamists placed a gun to the 20-year-old's head, ordered her to keep silent or be killed, and then raped her one by one.

"I did not cry out," said Miss Maiga. "I just cried inside of me."

For 10 months, Timbuktu endured occupation by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) and other extremists. This isolated city of 60,000 people in the Saharan wastes of northern Mali was compelled to discover what life would be like under al-Qaeda's rule. As such, Timbuktu became the unlikely test bed for the world that Osama bin Laden's followers wish to create.

That era, which began with AQIM's capture of the city last March, ended a week ago when French paratroopers and helicopter gunships forced them to flee Timbuktu. In the aftermath, the full story of a brutal occupation is now beginning to emerge.

Perhaps inevitably, the women of Timbuktu were singled out for special persecution. Miss Maiga committed two offences in Islamist eyes: she sometimes failed to cover her face when venturing out. Most heinously of all, she carried pictures of Western pop stars, notably Celine Dion, on her mobile phone.

The latter crime was discovered by four Islamist gunmen who stopped her in the street last November. When they saw the offending images, they beat her with a whip made from camel skin.

"I did not count how many times they hit me," she said.

From then on, they kept track of her movements and watched the home that she shares with her parents and siblings.

In late November, she ventured outside to hang some laundry – and a gunman noticed she was apparently unveiled.

She was immediately arrested and taken to a large sand-coloured building in the city centre which AQIM had commandeered as its security headquarters. Timbuktu's police station and military base were both considered too vulnerable, so the Islamists had taken over the local branch of Mali's biggest bank, transforming its rooms into cells and interrogation centres.

Miss Maiga, terrified by the memory of her previous beating, suffered a nervous collapse.

"I had a breakdown. I lost control. There was no one to help me."

She injured herself by kicking a glass door, covering her left leg in jagged cuts. But her guards refused to treat her, leaving her bleeding in a cell overnight.
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36701 Feb 4, 2013
islam has been succesfully kidnaping Christian girls anf forcing them to convert and marry strange men......is this more success of islam now that it has enriched the lives of those in Egypt MUQ???????

(AINA)-- Hundreds of Christian Egyptian girls having been abducted and forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslim men since the 2011 Egyptian Revolution. But the case of 14 year old Sarah has become symbolic, bringing to confrontation Muslims groups, whose members are implicated in the kidnappings, and the Coptic Church and human rights organizations.

On Sunday, September 30 Sarah Ishaq Abdelmalek, born on August 1, 1998 in the town of el-Dabaa, 130 kilometers from Mersa Matrouh, was on her way to school with her cousin Miriam, when they stopped at a bookshop. Miriam went ahead of Sarah to school, leaving Sarah behind. Sarah never made it to school and no one has seen her since then. Her father was hesitant at first to contact the authorities for fear of harm to his family and his other children by the Salafi Muslims, who have a large presence and influence in Mersa Matrouh and Alexandria. He finally filed a report with the police on October 20, accusing 27 year old bookshop keeper and Salafist Mahmoud Abu Zied Abdel Gawwad, a married man and father of children, of abducting Sarah and marrying her against her will (AINA 11-2-2012).

"Sarah was smuggled across the borders to Libya with the help of the Interior Ministry," said Ebram Louis, founder of the Coptic non-governmental organization Association of Victims of Abduction and Enforced Disappearance (AVAED), which handles cases of abducted Coptic minors. Louis blamed the interior ministry for all the disappearances of Coptic minors, saying the ministry colludes with the Muslims.

The recently elected Coptic Orthodox Pope Tawadros II said the kidnapping and forced conversion of Sarah is a "disgrace for the whole of Egypt." During a meeting with a delegation of the Journalists Syndicate Council at Anba Bishoy Monastery in Wadi Natrunon on November 12, he said "Can any family accept the kidnapping of their daughter and her forced conversion?"

The Pope dismissed the term "emotional ties" for what is happening among young men and girls from different religions, cited as the apparent cause of conversions by the Salafists. In an interview with Al Ahram Daily he said it is "sentimental coercion of girls who have not reached adulthood." The Pope said it is now common among Coptic families not to send their daughters to school because of fear kidnapping and forced conversion. Anba Pakhomios, the bishop of Mersa Matrouk, said Coptic families are increasingly choosing not to send their girls to public schools, making them study at home and only go to school during the examinations.

The Muslims accused the Coptic Church of causing sedition, because they claim Sarah left home, embraced Islam and married a Muslim of her own free will. They have denied that she is a minor. "When they talk of adulthood, it is not adulthood in the legal sense (18 years old)," says Dr. Naguib Gabriel, head of the Egyptian Union of Human Rights Organization, "but according to their concept that a girl reaches adulthood when she starts menstruating."
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36702 Feb 4, 2013
This is how we guage the success of islam being spread around the world from the home of islam....saudi arabia.

Forget Springtime for Hitler. In the Era of Obama we have official Arab Springtime for Morsi, complete with Muslim Brotherhood rape squads going out for the very moral purpose of teaching Egyptian girls and women never to escape their sacred house arrest without a male escort. This is Shari'a law as enforced in Saudi Arabia as well as in the city of London.
StrategyPage, an excellent military website, gives us this information about who is paying for the worldwide jihad. On the Sunni side of the street it turns out to be our friends the Saudis:
"Where exactly did the current crop of Islamic terrorists come from? Basically, they came from Saudi Arabia... Saudi Arabia was also exporting billions of dollars, and thousands of Wahhabi preachers... Because of international media networks, Islamic terrorism was no longer a bunch of separate problems..."
And there we are today. The Saudis are using their billions to export 7th century Arabian barbarism to the rest of the world, and the Iranian mullahs across the Gulf are exporting their version to Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Gaza, and Syria. But basically it's two flavors of the same criminal ideology, which sanctifies rape and killing for the sake of Allah.
As any Muslim theocrat will tell you, women are responsible for being raped. If they cover their bodies properly and are always escorted by their fathers or brothers, they would not be raped. On the other hand, if they escape their home jails and shame the family honor they deserve death.
Obama loves to compare himself to Abraham Lincoln, who freed the slaves. But Obama enslaved the free, which is not what Lincoln had in mind.
To their everlasting shame, American feminists have been dead silent about what they must know is happening to tens of millions of Muslim women. Ms. Jodie Evans of Code Pink helped to make it happen.
Feminists said nothing when ABC's Lara Logan was gang-raped right in the middle of Tahrir Square by Arab Spring progressive democrats. The liberal media have said nothing. They will cover up the rape squads. They covered up Lara Logan, didn't they?
All this liberal "progress" happened after Mr. Obama publicly ordered our 30-year ally President Hosni Mubarak to resign because of those "spontaneous demonstrations" in Tahrir Square, "spontaneous" demonstrations known to have been organized, probably by the Moslem Brotherhood which benefited from the overthrow of Mubarak.
This massive disaster to hundreds of millions of Arabs is now officially called the "Arab Spring" by our mendacious media. Egyptians are living in near-famine conditions. The Minister of Defense just warned about a possible breakdown of the country. Half a million Syrians have fled their homes, and at least 100,000 are believed to have died. Libya has reverted to desert tribalism. All thanks to the Arab Spring, courtesy of Barack Hussein Obama and Brother Morsi.
When Morsi was shown on YouTube calling Jews "descendants of apes and pigs" he was not making it up; he was quoting from the Koran, his field manual.
So much for the Springtime for Morsi in Cairo town. Some Spring. Some liberation. Some foreign policy triumph for Our Hero.
The Koran gives open permission for slavery, especially of infidel women and children captured in holy war. They are war booty, following the ancient rule of desert war in Arabia. The men are usually slaughtered. Boys may be castrated, as the Turks did to boys destined for the sultan's palace guard, including the harem, where women were kept in lifelong imprisonment.
Believing Muslims are a literal-minded bunch, and aren't allowed to question the words of the Koran. Rape and beatings are a routine part of slavery on the dark side of human history, which -- contrary to liberal "history" -- was not limited to the American South. Nor has it ceased today.
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Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36703 Feb 4, 2013
Forget Springtime for Hitler. In the Era of Obama we have official Arab Springtime for Morsi, complete with Muslim Brotherhood rape squads going out for the very moral purpose of teaching Egyptian girls and women never to escape their sacred house arrest without a male escort. This is Shari'a law as enforced in Saudi Arabia as well as in the city of London.
StrategyPage, an excellent military website, gives us this information about who is paying for the worldwide jihad. On the Sunni side of the street it turns out to be our friends the Saudis:
"Where exactly did the current crop of Islamic terrorists come from? Basically, they came from Saudi Arabia... Saudi Arabia was also exporting billions of dollars, and thousands of Wahhabi preachers... Because of international media networks, Islamic terrorism was no longer a bunch of separate problems..."
And there we are today. The Saudis are using their billions to export 7th century Arabian barbarism to the rest of the world, and the Iranian mullahs across the Gulf are exporting their version to Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Gaza, and Syria. But basically it's two flavors of the same criminal ideology, which sanctifies rape and killing for the sake of Allah.
As any Muslim theocrat will tell you, women are responsible for being raped. If they cover their bodies properly and are always escorted by their fathers or brothers, they would not be raped. On the other hand, if they escape their home jails and shame the family honor they deserve death.
Obama loves to compare himself to Abraham Lincoln, who freed the slaves. But Obama enslaved the free, which is not what Lincoln had in mind.
To their everlasting shame, American feminists have been dead silent about what they must know is happening to tens of millions of Muslim women. Ms. Jodie Evans of Code Pink helped to make it happen.
Feminists said nothing when ABC's Lara Logan was gang-raped right in the middle of Tahrir Square by Arab Spring progressive democrats. The liberal media have said nothing. They will cover up the rape squads. They covered up Lara Logan, didn't they?
All this liberal "progress" happened after Mr. Obama publicly ordered our 30-year ally President Hosni Mubarak to resign because of those "spontaneous demonstrations" in Tahrir Square, "spontaneous" demonstrations known to have been organized, probably by the Moslem Brotherhood which benefited from the overthrow of Mubarak.
This massive disaster to hundreds of millions of Arabs is now officially called the "Arab Spring" by our mendacious media. Egyptians are living in near-famine conditions. The Minister of Defense just warned about a possible breakdown of the country. Half a million Syrians have fled their homes, and at least 100,000 are believed to have died. Libya has reverted to desert tribalism. All thanks to the Arab Spring, courtesy of Barack Hussein Obama and Brother Morsi.
When Morsi was shown on YouTube calling Jews "descendants of apes and pigs" he was not making it up; he was quoting from the Koran, his field manual.
So much for the Springtime for Morsi in Cairo town. Some Spring. Some liberation. Some foreign policy triumph for Our Hero.
The Koran gives open permission for slavery, especially of infidel women and children captured in holy war. They are war booty, following the ancient rule of desert war in Arabia. The men are usually slaughtered. Boys may be castrated, as the Turks did to boys destined for the sultan's palace guard, including the harem, where women were kept in lifelong imprisonment.
Believing Muslims are a literal-minded bunch, and aren't allowed to question the words of the Koran. Rape and beatings are a routine part of slavery on the dark side of human history, which -- contrary to liberal "history" -- was not limited to the American South. Nor has it ceased today. Mohammed himself "married" more than 100 women stolen from enemy tribes, like the Arab Jewish tribe of Qureish.
Tom

Australia

#36704 Feb 4, 2013
Something wrong with questioning your statements,

" ignoring the success of islam "

What is this success of islam, is this question too difficult to answer ? MUQ

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#36705 Feb 4, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
No one has been able to prove ....
Sheilaa, you have been misrepresented by "MalbarCACA Controller, UK" here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T4...

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Collingwood, Australia

#36706 Feb 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever since I sprung him cleaning toilets in Europe it has been spamming me with my observations in revenge.
We can't take away his revenge, Neville. Poor thing, it's all he's got. lol!!

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#36707 Feb 4, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
<quoted text>
Meaning you have no answer to my observations.
What is success in your view?
ANS- Success is the rightous worship of a loving god and tollerence for all mankind, not killing infadels, minoritys, Jews or Christians as commanded by your death cult.
To exterminate all Red Indians? To kill every Aborigine from the lands?
ANS- Red Indians and Abo`s exist succesfully in both communities unlike what would have happened had they been discovered by muslim hoards who would have eaten there babies.
To fight and kill and use Atomic Bombs to silent your enemies?
ANS- Which enemy, Oh you mean the one who started WW2 and are responsable for the biggest masacare of human life in modern times who had every chance to cease agresion before deciding there fate ?
islam would use nukes to start a war, allies used them to stop one.
To take over countries and try to run it like "your own backyard" and leave it without doing anything for it?
ANS- What,,,you mean like the muslim hoards are currently doing in syria and all the african nations,,,,enriching there lives....
Or continue bombing and fighting in a small country for eleven long years and getting nothing and doing nothing for its welfare?
ANS- As upose to slaughtering young girls in other nations for simply wanting an education or marrying someone they choose in stead of some 90yr old saudi pervert.
Let us see what is your definition of success and how Christianity has become a successful religion while Islam is a failure?
ANS- Christianitys success is proven by the quality of the nations of today in which every muslim who hates there failed home land comes running too, seeking assylum and permision to live in, and the only Christian who goes to a muslim land is to offer the help that the locals dont get from there domestic leaders of islam.
During the second world war the Balkin Muslims supported Hitler and were well known for their cruel activities
The sInghdians Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36708 Feb 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
During the second world war the Balkin Muslims supported Hitler and were well known for their cruel activities
Ever since we sprung ti IndoMauritian pilon IMPOSTOR (ID #7 ??????, Australia STU PIDEASS of The ADELAIDEANs) cleaning toilets and spinning one hundred strong in mind and body lap dancers in European and worlwide loos and WCS it has been refusing to name them all.

Why?
Abdul

Pakistan

#36709 Feb 4, 2013
The sInghdians Busters wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever since we sprung ti IndoMauritian pilon IMPOSTOR (ID #7 ??????, Australia STU PIDEASS of The ADELAIDEANs) cleaning toilets and spinning one hundred strong in mind and body lap dancers in European and worlwide loos and WCS it has been refusing to name them all.
Why?
Se Sob Sune R Ki Korbe? Meyera Sob Somoy Chodar Shuk Pete Chai. Kintu Prokas Korte Pare Na. Ar Ei Choda Khabar Eccha Ta Muta-muti 7/8 Bocor Boyos Holey hoy. Biswas Na Hoy, Ekti Bar Try Koro. Oy Boyosei Ekta Meye Dharun Shuk Dite Pare. Boyos Kom To Ki Hoyece, Ekta 7/8 Bocorer Meye Koto time Chudte Pare , Ta Tomar Jana Nei.
The sInghdians Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36710 Feb 4, 2013
Abdul wrote:
<quoted text>
Se Sob Sune R Ki Korbe? Meyera Sob Somoy Chodar Shuk Pete Chai. Kintu Prokas Korte Pare Na. Ar Ei Choda Khabar Eccha Ta Muta-muti 7/8 Bocor Boyos Holey hoy. Biswas Na Hoy, Ekti Bar Try Koro. Oy Boyosei Ekta Meye Dharun Shuk Dite Pare. Boyos Kom To Ki Hoyece, Ekta 7/8 Bocorer Meye Koto time Chudte Pare , Ta Tomar Jana Nei.
Ade, Idiotic Inferior low caste mutant shit-coloured Moucheslime gutter rat, Please refrain from posting profanity or offensive unintelligible material from unexpected places.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36711 Feb 4, 2013
My Journey from Christianity to Islam – By Capt.(R ) M.A. Ondigo- Part-

Atonement, Repentance and Salvation

In the Christian doctrine of atonement, we were taught in the Church that God’s justice requires that a price be paid for the original sin and other sins of men. That for God to pardon a sinner without punishing him would be a denial of His Justice. Just as Rev. W. Goldsack writes:

“It should be clear as daylight to anyone that God CANNOT break His law: He CANNOT forgive a sinner without first giving him an appropriate punishment. For if He did so, who would call Him just and equitable”

From an Islamic point of view, this understanding shows complete ignorance of the nature of God. God is not a mere judge or King, rather He is a Merciful and Forgiving at the same time.

Thus according to earlier scriptures and from Islamic point of view, people can receive forgiveness of sins thru sincere repentance sought directly from God. This is true at all times and in all places.

There has never been a need for the intermediary role that Jesus Christ of Prophet Mohammad are often mistakenly said to play in our obtaining salvation through atonement.

The God that I learnt about in Islam, whom we worship, in one full of love and mercy. When He prescribes a law and a way to be followed and obeyed, it is not for His benefit, but rather for men’s.

The Christian scheme of Salvation which I was taught in the Church, is that Jesus paid for the original sin and all our subsequent sins when he died on the cross and shed his blood at the Calvary. Also that without belief in the saving power of blood, there is no salvation.

After becoming Muslim, when I went through this doctrine slightly more critically, I discovered that St. Paul’s theological understanding was actually on the basis of a Crucified Messiah and this the understanding upon which Paul built his own theology. As he says:

“And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith”(1 Cor. 15:14)

In other words, according to St. Paul there is nothing that Christianity can ffer mankind other than the blood and gore of Jesus Christ. If Jesus did not die and he was not resurrected from the dead, then there can be no salvation in Christianity, for all one’s good deeds are like filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6) as I was taught in the Church.

This kind of dogma is not only a denial of the mercy of God but also a denial of abundant love.

(Abridged)

IIPH, Riyadh Saudi Arabia
www.iiph.com.sa

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Port Melbourne, Australia

#36712 Feb 4, 2013
The sInghdians Busters wrote:
<quoted text>
Ade, Idiotic Inferior low caste mutant shit-coloured Moucheslime gutter rat, Please refrain from posting profanity or offensive unintelligible material from unexpected places.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T6...

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