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Indians and Lankans most victimized– says Kevin Dunn

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Winter Still

Massapequa, NY

#1 Sep 27, 2011
Perceptions of Racism in Australia: Indians and Lankans most victimized– says Kevin Dunn

"Kevin Dunn, lead researcher of the decade-long Challenging Racism Project, said new analysis suggested Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians reported higher levels of racism in such areas as the workplace, in education, when renting or buying a house, at shops and at sporting or public events.

The findings suggested the 2009 attacks on Indian students in Melbourne were a sign of a wider problem, he said. The study found:

40.8 per cent of Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians said they had experienced racism in the workplace, compared with 12.8 per cent of Australian-born respondents and 29.7 per cent of overseas-born respondents.
42.6 per cent of such respondents had experienced racism at a shop or restaurant, compared with 15.5 per cent Australian-born and 22.4 per cent of overseas-born.
38.5 per cent had experienced racism at a sporting or public event, compared with 13.8 per cent of Australian-born and 23.1 per cent of overseas-born.
28.4 per cent said they had experienced racism in education, compared with 14.5 per cent Australian-born and 21 per cent of overseas-born.
And 43.2 per cent said they had experienced discrimination in the form of name-calling and similar insults, and 41.9 per cent said they had been treated less respectfully because of their ethnic origin."

http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/raci...
TBA

Caringbah, Australia

#2 Sep 27, 2011
Winter Still wrote:
Perceptions of Racism in Australia: Indians and Lankans most victimized– says Kevin Dunn
"Kevin Dunn, lead researcher of the decade-long Challenging Racism Project, said new analysis suggested Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians reported higher levels of racism in such areas as the workplace, in education, when renting or buying a house, at shops and at sporting or public events.
The findings suggested the 2009 attacks on Indian students in Melbourne were a sign of a wider problem, he said. The study found:
40.8 per cent of Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians said they had experienced racism in the workplace, compared with 12.8 per cent of Australian-born respondents and 29.7 per cent of overseas-born respondents.
42.6 per cent of such respondents had experienced racism at a shop or restaurant, compared with 15.5 per cent Australian-born and 22.4 per cent of overseas-born.
38.5 per cent had experienced racism at a sporting or public event, compared with 13.8 per cent of Australian-born and 23.1 per cent of overseas-born.
28.4 per cent said they had experienced racism in education, compared with 14.5 per cent Australian-born and 21 per cent of overseas-born.
And 43.2 per cent said they had experienced discrimination in the form of name-calling and similar insults, and 41.9 per cent said they had been treated less respectfully because of their ethnic origin."
http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/raci...
they are also the whiniest group of migrants here.
Winter Still

Massapequa, NY

#3 Sep 27, 2011
Elias

Melbourne, Australia

#4 Sep 28, 2011
Because they look like suicide bombers
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#5 Sep 28, 2011
Elias wrote:
Because they look like suicide bombers
I don't say things like that...

“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#6 Sep 28, 2011
Winter Still wrote:
Perceptions of Racism in Australia: Indians and Lankans most victimized– says Kevin Dunn
"Kevin Dunn, lead researcher of the decade-long Challenging Racism Project, said new analysis suggested Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians reported higher levels of racism in such areas as the workplace, in education, when renting or buying a house, at shops and at sporting or public events.
The findings suggested the 2009 attacks on Indian students in Melbourne were a sign of a wider problem, he said. The study found:
40.8 per cent of Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians said they had experienced racism in the workplace, compared with 12.8 per cent of Australian-born respondents and 29.7 per cent of overseas-born respondents.
42.6 per cent of such respondents had experienced racism at a shop or restaurant, compared with 15.5 per cent Australian-born and 22.4 per cent of overseas-born.
38.5 per cent had experienced racism at a sporting or public event, compared with 13.8 per cent of Australian-born and 23.1 per cent of overseas-born.
28.4 per cent said they had experienced racism in education, compared with 14.5 per cent Australian-born and 21 per cent of overseas-born.
And 43.2 per cent said they had experienced discrimination in the form of name-calling and similar insults, and 41.9 per cent said they had been treated less respectfully because of their ethnic origin."
http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/raci...
Could that be construed as being because they are simply not a very nice race of people... and the majority may also be muslim with a muslim mentality?
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#7 Sep 28, 2011
Gottaliv wrote:
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Could that be construed as being because they are simply not a very nice race of people... and the majority may also be muslim with a muslim mentality?
A "nice" race of people.? back to your bad old ways again?

Since: Mar 11

Newcastle

#8 Sep 28, 2011
Winter Still wrote:
Perceptions of Racism in Australia: Indians and Lankans most victimized– says Kevin Dunn
"Kevin Dunn, lead researcher of the decade-long Challenging Racism Project, said new analysis suggested Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians reported higher levels of racism in such areas as the workplace, in education, when renting or buying a house, at shops and at sporting or public events.
The findings suggested the 2009 attacks on Indian students in Melbourne were a sign of a wider problem, he said. The study found:
40.8 per cent of Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians said they had experienced racism in the workplace, compared with 12.8 per cent of Australian-born respondents and 29.7 per cent of overseas-born respondents.
42.6 per cent of such respondents had experienced racism at a shop or restaurant, compared with 15.5 per cent Australian-born and 22.4 per cent of overseas-born.
38.5 per cent had experienced racism at a sporting or public event, compared with 13.8 per cent of Australian-born and 23.1 per cent of overseas-born.
28.4 per cent said they had experienced racism in education, compared with 14.5 per cent Australian-born and 21 per cent of overseas-born.
And 43.2 per cent said they had experienced discrimination in the form of name-calling and similar insults, and 41.9 per cent said they had been treated less respectfully because of their ethnic origin."
http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/raci...
A new analysis? What did the old analysis show? Lies, damn lies & statistics.

“"Never say never"”

Since: Sep 08

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#9 Sep 28, 2011
When I spoke to my cousin who lives in Sydney, he said he encountered no problems whatsoever at workplace or outside. He feels that there are small pockets of areas where some unfortunate incidents happen and a whole country is criticized for it. Perhaps it just boils down to being in the wrong place.
Bubba

Australia

#10 Sep 28, 2011
Another Dave wrote:
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A new analysis? What did the old analysis show? Lies, damn lies & statistics.
LOL Could it be they have worked out how to screw money out of the Multicultural industry?

“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#11 Sep 28, 2011
fapp wrote:
When I spoke to my cousin who lives in Sydney, he said he encountered no problems whatsoever at workplace or outside. He feels that there are small pockets of areas where some unfortunate incidents happen and a whole country is criticized for it. Perhaps it just boils down to being in the wrong place.
Perhaps it's because your cousin just happens to be a "nice" person and gets treated accordingly.:)

Since: Mar 11

Newcastle

#12 Sep 28, 2011
Bubba wrote:
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LOL Could it be they have worked out how to screw money out of the Multicultural industry?
They are the multicultural industry, LOL. More likely they have massaged the figures to reflect their views. And of course to prove they need more funding
scooterman

Melbourne, Australia

#13 Sep 28, 2011
Winter Still wrote:
Perceptions of Racism in Australia: Indians and Lankans most victimized– says Kevin Dunn
"Kevin Dunn, lead researcher of the decade-long Challenging Racism Project, said new analysis suggested Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians reported higher levels of racism in such areas as the workplace, in education, when renting or buying a house, at shops and at sporting or public events.
The findings suggested the 2009 attacks on Indian students in Melbourne were a sign of a wider problem, he said. The study found:
40.8 per cent of Indian and Sri Lankan-born Australians said they had experienced racism in the workplace, compared with 12.8 per cent of Australian-born respondents and 29.7 per cent of overseas-born respondents.
42.6 per cent of such respondents had experienced racism at a shop or restaurant, compared with 15.5 per cent Australian-born and 22.4 per cent of overseas-born.
38.5 per cent had experienced racism at a sporting or public event, compared with 13.8 per cent of Australian-born and 23.1 per cent of overseas-born.
28.4 per cent said they had experienced racism in education, compared with 14.5 per cent Australian-born and 21 per cent of overseas-born.
And 43.2 per cent said they had experienced discrimination in the form of name-calling and similar insults, and 41.9 per cent said they had been treated less respectfully because of their ethnic origin."
http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/raci...
From the same article:

"Professor Dunn, head of social sciences at the University of Western Sydney, said the data samples were too few to indicate where racism was most pronounced, but indicated experience of racism was up to 11 per cent higher for central western Sydney than for NSW generally."

Read: CENTRAL WESTERN SYDNEY. 11% HIGHER THAN NSW GENERALLY

Would those Indian and Sri Lankan posters who rubbish Aussies as "white trash" and "bogans" like to offer an opinion on this? Secondly, do you think you and your fellows should start a campaign of baiting name-callers in the rest of Sydney and NSW so you can feel like you're back into "righteous whitey-bashing" mode?

Winter Still

Massapequa, NY

#14 Sep 28, 2011
scooterman wrote:
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From the same article:
"Professor Dunn, head of social sciences at the University of Western Sydney, said the data samples were too few to indicate where racism was most pronounced, but indicated experience of racism was up to 11 per cent higher for central western Sydney than for NSW generally."
Read: CENTRAL WESTERN SYDNEY. 11% HIGHER THAN NSW GENERALLY
Would those Indian and Sri Lankan posters who rubbish Aussies as "white trash" and "bogans" like to offer an opinion on this? Secondly, do you think you and your fellows should start a campaign of baiting name-callers in the rest of Sydney and NSW so you can feel like you're back into "righteous whitey-bashing" mode?
That article is information for me. Seems legit, but I need more info to make up my mind, which is why I posted it here. See what Aussies are saying. That would be information for me too, but perhaps not that legit.

Racist or not, seems at least some Aussies will fit in well with the tea baggers.

Peace
scooterman

Melbourne, Australia

#15 Sep 28, 2011
Winter Still wrote:
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That article is information for me. Seems legit, but I need more info to make up my mind, which is why I posted it here. See what Aussies are saying. That would be information for me too, but perhaps not that legit.
Racist or not, seems at least some Aussies will fit in well with the tea baggers.
Peace
Central Western Sydney just happens to be the most ethnically diverse place in Sydney, so on the basis of that finding (whether it is accurate or not) the question can be asked on whether Indians/Sri Lankans are safer in an ethnically diverse, "more multicultural" area of NSW or whether they are safer in a less diverse, "more monocultural" area.

If it is accurate, then it ties in with a belief that more culturally diverse communities have less social trust.

This is why pro-multiculturalists always resort to throwing up unrelated foreign trade and economic issues because they can never properly counter the arguments AGAINST a social issue like multiculturalism with a social argument FOR multiculturalism.

Pro-multiculturalists care more about wealth and land acquisition than being an integral part of a community and it shows in their economic arguments and their delegitimisation of the host country.
Neo

Bangalore, India

#16 Sep 28, 2011
This is the final nail in the coffin for paving the way for the future Islamic Australia.
Winter Still

Massapequa, NY

#17 Sep 28, 2011
scooterman wrote:
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Central Western Sydney just happens to be the most ethnically diverse place in Sydney, so on the basis of that finding (whether it is accurate or not) the question can be asked on whether Indians/Sri Lankans are safer in an ethnically diverse, "more multicultural" area of NSW or whether they are safer in a less diverse, "more monocultural" area.
That is interesting.
If it is accurate, then it ties in with a belief that more culturally diverse communities have less social trust.
For a while yes. A lot would depend on the cultures, I think. If cultures are compatible, things can work out well (sooner). Time and a bit of patience, and cultures that are less rigid surely are key here for desirable results. Taking things a lot slower than what sudden labor requirements dictate, would help too.
This is why pro-multiculturalists always resort to throwing up unrelated foreign trade and economic issues because they can never properly counter the arguments AGAINST a social issue like multiculturalism with a social argument FOR multiculturalism.

Pro-multiculturalists care more about wealth and land acquisition than being an integral part of a community and it shows in their economic arguments and their delegitimisation of the host country.
Not at all. Very incorrect. That would apply only to the big business that uses multiculturalism as a means to get cheap labor, and their kept politicians too of course.

I think if cultures (really individuals), learn from each other and give up their own ills by observing others' successes and failures, that would be progress made. But if people remain secluded and separated, things have a potential of getting very very ugly in a fast shrinking world.

Multiculturalism is surely a good thing without a doubt, we just have to do things better. The haphazard way its being done in some places, just to satisfy labor requirements, without care to the other characteristics of the immigrant 'labor', like cultural habits etc, is what is the real problem. And letting loose boat people from tiger infested areas of Lanka or Afganistan would surely be a disaster anywhere.

Multiculturalism means different people learning to get along; is that a bad thing? I contend - two cultures that are civilized, will not have any problems when mixed together. But civilized and uncivilized don't mix well, even if of same race or nationality or lingo.

Multiculturalism is well worth fighting for, and we will fight for it with everything we got. For our sakes and yours too.

Peace
mimansa of jamini

Massapequa, NY

#18 Sep 28, 2011
Culture is just an assortment of memes. And when you mix them up, bad memes tend to die down - pushed down and out by better homologous memes.

Much like how those undesirable recessive genes die out due to out breeding.

The bad memes just go out with much kicking and screaming

Its just my theory :)

Peace
atheist hindu

New Delhi, India

#19 Sep 28, 2011
mimansa of jamini wrote:
Culture is just an assortment of memes. And when you mix them up, bad memes tend to die down - pushed down and out by better homologous memes.
Much like how those undesirable recessive genes die out due to out breeding.
The bad memes just go out with much kicking and screaming
Its just my theory :)
Peace
Agree, very old theory though, very old.

And very surprised indeed to see a name like "mimansha of jamini", in fact almost shocked!

Hmmm.
Bubba

Australia

#20 Sep 28, 2011
mimansa of jamini wrote:
Culture is just an assortment of memes. And when you mix them up, bad memes tend to die down - pushed down and out by better homologous memes.
Much like how those undesirable recessive genes die out due to out breeding.
The bad memes just go out with much kicking and screaming
Its just my theory :)
Peace
Or you could take the theory.

Every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.

Being undesirable cultures can replicate or breed faster then that of the host culture, hence exhibiting traits of a cancer that may need to be cut out or given large doses of Chemotherapy.

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