Is Australia afraid of China?

Created by amp on Jan 27, 2013

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“Fair & Balanced”

Since: Jul 12

wherever there's a mine

#175 Feb 1, 2013
larry wrote:
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Your ignorant,lieng and exagerrating, you had money in the bank you have obviously been very lucky to have full time employment, and enough savings to buy your property, when your unemployed for a while no employer will give you a job, without 2 recent references and recent work experience, they suffer discrimination and so they cant get a job, as well as having to compete with new migrants and refugees who are getting the sympathy job from employers, employers control the employment levels and they freely discrimnate as they please , the biggest employment discrimnation is against longterm unemployed, this has been so for decades employers wont give them work, thye keep them unmeployed by demanding recent references and consistent work history , before thye even get an interview. This is why the gov had to create new schemes in this area to give jobs to one group of unemployed aborigines and women, while they totally longterm unemployed men ignored men , as it stands there are 600000 unemployed and over 100000 people on disability pensions half of whom could work if given respect and opportunity.
Last I heard there were over 800,000 on disability.

As an employer let me ask - why have you been unemployed for 6 months? What have you been doing during that time? The bullsh1t answer is looking for work. If you haven't done something pro-active in last 3 months to work then I won't employ you. Try McDonalds.
jack

Melbourne, Australia

#176 Feb 1, 2013
Tasmaniac wrote:
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Most landlords couldn't afford to do it cheaper. It's like saying that shops are greedy for charging their prices. That's the way economics goes.
No your just hiding your own greed, and your sympathies with realstate profiteers, your another pushing an injustice to continue while hiding a selfish goal of simply more for your own pile.

The solution was price capping price capping on rents a and property prices, which cannot be exceeded
and compulsory lower rents for lower income types, this would be fair and just

The best australians are not in politics and it shows, as the current lot do little other than kiss the arses of foreigners, the rich and the UN
Foo

Goodna, Australia

#177 Feb 1, 2013
Tasmaniac wrote:
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It's taking advantage of the market. Anyone with half a brain can buy a house if they put their mind to it. I came back to Australia about 7 years ago with nothing and I've managed to buy a farm, get a brand new car and we will be building a house later this year. And that's on an average salary.
People generally have no one to blame but them self when they are poor here.
I think your misinterpreting me.....it's good that a house is affordable for you , and it should be as tax-free and hassle free to buy as possible.....but the the family home is not an investment , it is a necessity to give stablity to your life and your family. You can sell it and move if you wish , but you can only have 1 home.......some people have feathered their own nest, by buying homes that should be only available to those who don't have one.......a strong financial disincentive to these people , starting with the abolition of negative gearing is needed.....and it would also give great stability to the building industry , while cancelling out much of the "bust/boom" effect , and also eliminate the housing investment bubbles.....the housing , building and realeastate industries have hijacked the whole thing, and made it a multi-staged vehicle for wealth creation , which IMO is totally counter-productive to the stability of the economy and the protection of the employment level.

“Fair & Balanced”

Since: Jul 12

wherever there's a mine

#178 Feb 2, 2013
jack wrote:
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No your just hiding your own greed, and your sympathies with realstate profiteers, your another pushing an injustice to continue while hiding a selfish goal of simply more for your own pile.
The solution was price capping price capping on rents a and property prices, which cannot be exceeded
and compulsory lower rents for lower income types, this would be fair and just
The best australians are not in politics and it shows, as the current lot do little other than kiss the arses of foreigners, the rich and the UN
How about you get a 2nd job & earn more money & stop being a complete whinny b1tch over hard working people making a success of their lives. Or relocate. A quick real estate search & I find 15 suburbs with houses selling under $300k in Sydney.

Who'll build rental properties of there isn't a good return? The government?

Since: Nov 12

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#180 Feb 2, 2013
jack wrote:
<quoted text>No your just hiding your own greed, and your sympathies with realstate profiteers, your another pushing an injustice to continue while hiding a selfish goal of simply more for your own pile.

The solution was price capping price capping on rents a and property prices, which cannot be exceeded
and compulsory lower rents for lower income types, this would be fair and just

The best australians are not in politics and it shows, as the current lot do little other than kiss the arses of foreigners, the rich and the UN
Sure, I want my children to get the best start possible. At the moment we should retire with $6 million plus in investments despite my wife and I receiving average salaries. We will have the choice of traveling overseas, investing in a few things and will never need the government or my super to fund my retirement. Is that so bad?

Since: Nov 12

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#181 Feb 2, 2013
Foo wrote:
<quoted text>I think your misinterpreting me.....it's good that a house is affordable for you , and it should be as tax-free and hassle free to buy as possible.....but the the family home is not an investment , it is a necessity to give stablity to your life and your family. You can sell it and move if you wish , but you can only have 1 home.......some people have feathered their own nest, by buying homes that should be only available to those who don't have one.......a strong financial disincentive to these people , starting with the abolition of negative gearing is needed.....and it would also give great stability to the building industry , while cancelling out much of the "bust/boom" effect , and also eliminate the housing investment bubbles.....the housing , building and realeastate industries have hijacked the whole thing, and made it a multi-staged vehicle for wealth creation , which IMO is totally counter-productive to the stability of the economy and the protection of the employment level.
Well in a democratic country, people are entitled to use their brain and invest their money wisely. Those who complain are those too stupid to help themselves. Poor? Get a second job. I was working three jobs for a year to provide for my family and make sure our children have a better start..
Blair

Romania

#182 Feb 2, 2013
Im more scared of India than China. I live close to a street and if all the Indians come, the street wont be able to cope with 1 billion people shitting on it and the street may over flow and flood us.
Blair

Romania

#183 Feb 2, 2013
A giant avalanche of poo if you will.

Since: Nov 12

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#184 Feb 2, 2013
larry wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorant,lieng and exagerrating, you had money in the bank you have obviously been very lucky to have full time employment, and enough savings to buy your property, when your unemployed for a while no employer will give you a job, without 2 recent references and recent work experience, they suffer discrimination and so they cant get a job, as well as having to compete with new migrants and refugees who are getting the sympathy job from employers, employers control the employment levels and they freely discrimnate as they please , the biggest employment discrimnation is against longterm unemployed, this has been so for decades employers wont give them work, thye keep them unmeployed by demanding recent references and consistent work history , before thye even get an interview. This is why the gov had to create new schemes in this area to give jobs to one group of unemployed aborigines and women, while they totally longterm unemployed men ignored men , as it stands there are 600000 unemployed and over 100000 people on disability pensions half of whom could work if given respect and opportunity.
We all have problems mate.
You think life is rosy for me?
The difference between the haves and the have nots is that while the haves are working out ways to succeed, have nots are finding excuses.
Foo

Goodna, Australia

#185 Feb 2, 2013
Tasmaniac wrote:
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Well in a democratic country, people are entitled to use their brain and invest their money wisely. Those who complain are those too stupid to help themselves. Poor? Get a second job. I was working three jobs for a year to provide for my family and make sure our children have a better start..
Which is exactly why there should be financial disincentives for speculating on property , in particular, housing.....financial incentives for people to invest in smallto medium manufacturing business's is a far better option.....but the banks knock that on the head whenever the subject is raised......there is massive opportunities to make good money investing in Aus manufacturing , but people stay with status quo , and take the lazy option.....the smarter people are doing it , and will eventually benefit far more than property speculators......
Foo

Goodna, Australia

#186 Feb 2, 2013
Tasmaniac wrote:
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Well in a democratic country, people are entitled to use their brain and invest their money wisely. Those who complain are those too stupid to help themselves. Poor? Get a second job. I was working three jobs for a year to provide for my family and make sure our children have a better start..
Part of the problem is that you should not have to work 3 jobs , in order to give your kids a better start. They are entitled to a good start , without their father having to work 3 jobs to help them. Poverty is a different social category to those who are members of the work force , and the two should never be confused or compared.......
Foo

Goodna, Australia

#187 Feb 2, 2013
Housing are currently valued at twice what they're worth IMO.......if you halved the prices , they would still be expensive......I hope prices drop through the floor boards over the next few years...
UScitizenAbroad

Australia

#188 Feb 2, 2013
dayra wrote:
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About the media this isint true. Some times like when people get in a stink about a sale of a piece of land, like the Cubby Station, they come out with all the facts. For example during the Cubby station media saga there was a Government statement that said China only owns a very insignificant amount of Australian land and Business.
Something they do worry about though is Chinese Spies. I guess its because of the Russian spy networks bringing about Americans Reluctant Combat Role in World War 2. I think Harry Dexter White's case is the reason I know about that. Even if the Americans were supplying covert assistance to China at the time by allowing American Pilots to fly p40 fighters and kill jap fighters attacking China before Pearl Harbor. That however doesn't dismiss the fact that Espionage is real on every side but that only affects the elite, rich and powerful. This however is why we are told Cubby is not such a big problem and Huawei is. This is us following American security advice though and something we should be worried about. While at present the trade deficit is in our favor most of should realise our contribution to China is insignificant and if they can pull such a huge job on the Americans Economy then just imagine how easilly they could swallow us. And now they have a few footholds in which to do so. Cubby is not the best example however because that contract involved them having to sell back their share in it by a certain date. Not really sure who will want it though so that might be the catch. The thing is we know how easily they can build cities now and create special economic zones in other peoples countries, something they are planning to do in places in the USA, where they will be bringing in Chinese workers. Not such good news for shipping, then again the crafty Chinese do not want so much the Americans using shipping as and excuse to not fight with china over the Oil in the South China sea. At the same time the Chinese are acting all innocent saying that they will be trying to save the American Economy with this plan they have. And the Americans so far, well american peoples opinion is about sovereignty which is bizarre coming from a melting pot.
The bad news for China. There is no shortage of poor people that the Yanks can summons to battle, and this is always the case no matter where you live. The bad news for them is China is the one pushing for a war, wether it be with China, the Philippines and or the USA etc. Its not that they don't have their own oil supplies its just that they never seem to have enough of it. The people in SA will have plenty of these Chinese people now looking to get at the latest oil find. And as Bill O'Reilly pointed out they have more money to spend than anyone else and are highest bidders. The next Domino after WA, SA.
Some interesting points. One should also watch your Pay TV CCTV Chinese english language news channel from time to time too.Quite hysterical militant "current affairs'" commentators it employs,if there ever were any.

Worst case scenario within 20 years:

A dire, potential issue for Australia is that US gets too entrenched in Chinese business(as if it already isn't),Oz may not be able to rely on ANZUS,if the Chinese really feel "like setting up shop" Down Under. Obtaining that little extra (fresh air) breathing space. US may lose too much business in China you see, if posing forceful objections.

But,in the meantime,the Pax Americana safeguards the Pacific.And, you Aussies are arguably our most reliable overseas' friends.No future is certain though, regardless of all assurances.For example,it was too politically unsound (and basically too early for us)to immediately support UK with armed forces in 1939.

Nevertheless, strongly building up your navy/airforce would be a great idea while all the Asian nations are currently doing so. Can't hurt,especially as you being the most isolated Western nation on the planet

Blair

Cherkassy, Ukraine

#189 Feb 2, 2013
But the arsetralian government has come up with its own plan for defence. Its called 'stick your head in the sand and pretend nothings happening.' they have also implemented operation 'flood arsetralia with indian immigrats' so if china invade they will think they made a mistake and invaded india.
They have also stockpiled large number of sudanese to generally harrass the chinese invaders by robbing them and thieving all their supplies.
Foo

Goodna, Australia

#190 Feb 2, 2013
Blair wrote:
But the arsetralian government has come up with its own plan for defence. Its called 'stick your head in the sand and pretend nothings happening.' they have also implemented operation 'flood arsetralia with indian immigrats' so if china invade they will think they made a mistake and invaded india.
They have also stockpiled large number of sudanese to generally harrass the chinese invaders by robbing them and thieving all their supplies.
It would be appreciated Mr Ukranian Moron , if you desisted from refering to my country as "arsetralia"....if you were within arm's length of me you wouldn't , trust me.....(lol)go an sit back down , next to your vodka , and look silly ,with that funny fur hat you idiots always have on your pumpkin shaped heads.....(lol)
Blair

Cherkassy, Ukraine

#191 Feb 2, 2013
arsestralia arsetralia arsestralia
Foo

Goodna, Australia

#192 Feb 2, 2013
I have yet to see any evidence that China holds "expansionist" intentions , beyond it's own borders. Yes , they are hard nosed at business and also very heavy gamblers......but I think , because of their size , people can be wrongly paranoid (diplomatically speaking).....the size of China holds no fear for Japan , as history has proven , and there seems to be quite a few other Asian countries who also are not concerned with the size of China and are more focused on the positive economic aspects of what is happening in the Asian region , including Australia.......China really does need the US to get over the the current hump , which is more than likely sooner , rather than later........interesting times ahead.
Blair

Cherkassy, Ukraine

#193 Feb 2, 2013
Yes arsestralia is ready for anything.
It can make all the fat women stand next to each other to make an inpeneratable barrier around the cities so the chinese cant shoot.
UScitizenAbroad

Australia

#194 Feb 2, 2013
Cobber wrote:
Just look at how China treats their own people. Then again, look at how the USA treats their own people.
We can all aspire to be like Switzerland.

Even so, has then been many blind US human rights' dissidents seeking sanctuary in the Chinese embassy in DC lately ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Guangcheng

Since: Nov 12

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#195 Feb 2, 2013
Foo wrote:
<quoted text>Part of the problem is that you should not have to work 3 jobs , in order to give your kids a better start. They are entitled to a good start , without their father having to work 3 jobs to help them. Poverty is a different social category to those who are members of the work force , and the two should never be confused or compared.......
You have to do what you have to do. The world doesn't owe us anything. You work out what you need and you go get it. There are plenty of people who would like to have the chance to live here and make something of them self instead of settling for mediocrity

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