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Elias

Australia

#253 Jan 31, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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One thing they never take notice of are silted up rivers that disperse water inland that causes most problems like down the coastline of NSW where the bars at river mouths are quite shallow which backs up water.
The siltation is directly caused by upstream land clearing isn't it? What can the councils do? dredge the silt perhaps?
Raiderpete

Australia

#254 Feb 1, 2013
Elias wrote:
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The siltation is directly caused by upstream land clearing isn't it? What can the councils do? dredge the silt perhaps?
The obvious answer would be to stop land clearing
Raiderpete

Australia

#255 Feb 1, 2013
But areas that have never been flooded have been this time around. Insurance for all will go up with climate change. Get used to it big hike for all on the way
Elias wrote:
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I agree with Neville, the council should be doing a proper risk assessment and management plan rather sitting back living off ratepayers drinking XXXX tinnies and keeping their fingers crossed.
Places hit with floods this time around do have flood insurance. The catch is the premiums are very high (guess why). According to Alan Fels (on ABC radio) the locals were paid out through government money (yes partially collected from donations but also that bloody flood levy). But most are unable to afford the hefty flood insurance premiums so opted out (again).
I agree with Fels that these people need to be hit with higher rates so that there is an incentive for them to take out insurance or move elsewhere.

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#256 Feb 2, 2013
Elias wrote:
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The situation is directly caused by upstream land clearing isn't it? What can the councils do? dredge the silt perhaps?
Re plant trees on hilly country and gullies upstream to slow the flow of water and dredge rivers

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#257 Feb 2, 2013
Raiderpete wrote:
<quoted text>The obvious answer would be to stop land clearing
The clearing that was carried out 100 years ago is causing the problems,they cleared every single tree causing run off that speeds down to the sea.
Raiderpete

East Maitland, Australia

#258 Feb 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Re plant trees on hilly country and gullies upstream to slow the flow of water and dredge rivers
Dredging comes with its own problems as seen in Gladstone harbour due to the mining industry. Silt is much worse too IMO due to excessive mine water releases.
Raiderpete

East Maitland, Australia

#259 Feb 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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The clearing that was carried out 100 years ago is causing the problems,they cleared every single tree causing run off that speeds down to the sea.
That may be so but clearing still continues today. Dredging won't stop the kind of flood seen in bundaberg. I've got a feeling there will be more wild weather before the wet season ends

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#260 Feb 4, 2013
Raiderpete wrote:
<quoted text>Dredging comes with its own problems as seen in Gladstone harbour due to the mining industry. Silt is much worse too IMO due to excessive mine water releases.
Many rivers are so shallow, flood water spread outwards drowning farm interests instead of flowing the river course.
The second problem being the river mouths that need dredging urgently because they are a danger to boating.
Raiderpete

East Maitland, Australia

#261 Feb 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Many rivers are so shallow, flood water spread outwards drowning farm interests instead of flowing the river course.
The second problem being the river mouths that need dredging urgently because they are a danger to boating.
That type of rain event is unpresidented in the areas it fell in. Rivers will flood regardless of dredging or not with the rain event of that magnitude. Recreation is a minor issue I'm afraid much more important issues like the cost to the taxpayer when the next flood levy is issued. Climate change I believe is pushing the monsoonal rain pattern southward. The tropical areas are well down on their normal rainfall again this wet season
Rafeal

Adelaide, Australia

#262 Feb 4, 2013
Raiderpete wrote:
<quoted text>That type of rain event is unpresidented in the areas it fell in. Rivers will flood regardless of dredging or not with the rain event of that magnitude. Recreation is a minor issue I'm afraid much more important issues like the cost to the taxpayer when the next flood levy is issued. Climate change I believe is pushing the monsoonal rain pattern southward. The tropical areas are well down on their normal rainfall again this wet season
Funny how the gov send millions of dollars to Syria but slugs us with a flood levy. They care for everyone but their own

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#263 Feb 6, 2013
Raiderpete wrote:
<quoted text>That type of rain event is unpresidented in the areas it fell in. Rivers will flood regardless of dredging or not with the rain event of that magnitude. Recreation is a minor issue I'm afraid much more important issues like the cost to the taxpayer when the next flood levy is issued. Climate change I believe is pushing the monsoonal rain pattern southward. The tropical areas are well down on their normal rainfall again this wet season
The tropics have received a fair amount of rain so far
Raiderpete

Australia

#264 Feb 6, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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The tropics have received a fair amount of rain so far
U are mistaken. Been a very dry wet season. Well below average rains for the whole of the tropics.
Raiderpete

Australia

#265 Feb 6, 2013
The Kimberley and Top End, central Australia, inland Queensland and New South Wales, and much of South Australia and Tasmania recorded below-average rainfall. Rainfall was especially deficient over most of Victoria, with most of the State except East Gippsland, Mallee, and Riverina recording monthly rainfall in the lowest 10 per cent of January records. Small areas of southern Victoria, inland New South Wales and Queensland observed their lowest recorded January total, with a number of stations in western and central Victoria receiving no rain for the month. Victoria recorded its seventh-driest January, 79 per cent below average; South Australian rainfall was 88 per cent below average and the driest since 1989; January in the Northern Territory was the driest since 1994 owing in part to the late onset of the North Australian Monsoon, although the area-average rainfall exhibited a smaller departure (45 per cent below average) than in the other two States.

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#266 Feb 6, 2013
Raiderpete wrote:
<quoted text>U are mistaken. Been a very dry wet season. Well below average rains for the whole of the tropics.
Cape York and the Gulf got watered during the last TC.
Raiderpete

Australia

#267 Feb 6, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Cape York and the Gulf got watered during the last TC.
Yes that's true but even so anywhere north of around mackay has had a wet season with below average rainfall
HighChair

Australia

#268 Feb 6, 2013
CSIRO has invented a new weather modelling system using hundreds/thousands of bouys that float in the ocean. They send GPS data and show the water currents. This system is much better and more accurate for weather forecasting.

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#269 Feb 7, 2013
HighChair wrote:
CSIRO has invented a new weather modelling system using hundreds/thousands of bouys that float in the ocean. They send GPS data and show the water currents. This system is much better and more accurate for weather forecasting.
I am wondering how long they will last with boat strikes and trawler nets.

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