More Aborigines converting to Islam..new trend

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Ascot Vale, Australia

#1 Apr 7, 2010
A new faith for Kooris

More Aborigines are finding similarities between their culture and Islamic principles, writes Linda Morris.

A FLAG is soon to flutter above the troubled suburb of Redfern, proclaiming a new religious face to Aboriginal Australia. At the centre of a backdrop of equal halves of black and red, the colours of the Aboriginal people, is a yellow crescent moon and star. It's to be the symbol of the Koori Muslim Association, which will open the only Aboriginal mushalla in NSW at a shopfront location on busy Regent Street next month.

Conversion among indigenous Australians is growing, driven by the higher visibility of Islam, a rejection of Christianity as a post-colonial religion, identification with Islamic principles, and conversions in prisons where Aborigines dominate the population.

While no one knows how many indigenous Muslims there are in Australia, Aboriginal Muslims reject suggestions they are converting to the faith in droves. Some are descendants of Afghan and Baluch cameleers, North Indian traders and Malay pearl divers and have grown up in the faith.

Many converts are from cities. The boxer Anthony Mundine is the most famous of these and has become a role model. Their first contact with Islam sometimes, but not always, comes in jail, where as many as 22 per cent of inmates are indigenous Australians.

Rocky Davis, known as Shaheed Malik, converted while serving 14 years for armed robberies and other offences. It was the story of Malcolm X, the gangster and black American nationalist leader who became a convert to Islam, that first inspired Davis.

"What does Islam stand for? Islam offers a faith untainted by colonialism and racism. It is a liberating religion," says Davis. "Though the Bible said you shalt not kill, they killed, thou shall not rape, they raped our women, thou shalt not steal, they stole our land. Islam at its essence is pure. My forefathers had no army and no guns and lived in Aboriginal townships and camps. That's the difference between the Muslim and Christian faiths: one is for the oppressed and one's for the oppressor, one's for the coloniser and one for the colonised."

Peta Stephenson, a doctoral fellow at the University of Melbourne's Asia Institute, says Islam doesn't share the baggage of missionary Christianity, and has become one path by which Aborigines can affirm their pre-colonial identity.

"Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X are role models," she says. "A lot of people see Islam as an answer to the ills of Western society. For communities suffering chronic levels of unemployment or underemployment and substance abuse it might have special appeal for those wanting to break away from the statistics."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/a-new-fai...
Andrew

Sydney, Australia

#2 Apr 7, 2010
lol wrote:
A new faith for Kooris
More Aborigines are finding similarities between their culture and Islamic principles, writes Linda Morris.
A FLAG is soon to flutter above the troubled suburb of Redfern, proclaiming a new religious face to Aboriginal Australia. At the centre of a backdrop of equal halves of black and red, the colours of the Aboriginal people, is a yellow crescent moon and star. It's to be the symbol of the Koori Muslim Association, which will open the only Aboriginal mushalla in NSW at a shopfront location on busy Regent Street next month.
Conversion among indigenous Australians is growing, driven by the higher visibility of Islam, a rejection of Christianity as a post-colonial religion, identification with Islamic principles, and conversions in prisons where Aborigines dominate the population.
While no one knows how many indigenous Muslims there are in Australia, Aboriginal Muslims reject suggestions they are converting to the faith in droves. Some are descendants of Afghan and Baluch cameleers, North Indian traders and Malay pearl divers and have grown up in the faith.
Many converts are from cities. The boxer Anthony Mundine is the most famous of these and has become a role model. Their first contact with Islam sometimes, but not always, comes in jail, where as many as 22 per cent of inmates are indigenous Australians.
Rocky Davis, known as Shaheed Malik, converted while serving 14 years for armed robberies and other offences. It was the story of Malcolm X, the gangster and black American nationalist leader who became a convert to Islam, that first inspired Davis.
"What does Islam stand for? Islam offers a faith untainted by colonialism and racism. It is a liberating religion," says Davis. "Though the Bible said you shalt not kill, they killed, thou shall not rape, they raped our women, thou shalt not steal, they stole our land. Islam at its essence is pure. My forefathers had no army and no guns and lived in Aboriginal townships and camps. That's the difference between the Muslim and Christian faiths: one is for the oppressed and one's for the oppressor, one's for the coloniser and one for the colonised."
Peta Stephenson, a doctoral fellow at the University of Melbourne's Asia Institute, says Islam doesn't share the baggage of missionary Christianity, and has become one path by which Aborigines can affirm their pre-colonial identity.
"Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X are role models," she says. "A lot of people see Islam as an answer to the ills of Western society. For communities suffering chronic levels of unemployment or underemployment and substance abuse it might have special appeal for those wanting to break away from the statistics."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/a-new-fai...
Bullshit. Even the abos aren't that stupid.
"Aboriginal Muslims reject suggestions they are converting to the faith in droves. Some are descendants of Afghan and Baluch cameleers, North Indian traders and Malay pearl divers and have grown up in the faith."
In other words few are "converting" and those that are aren't really abos anyway.
Go home wog. You aren't welcome here.
Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#3 Apr 7, 2010
Blacks world wide never fail to amuse me LOL !

Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#4 Apr 7, 2010
Interview with the white guy.

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Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#5 Apr 7, 2010
And what the Black guy has to say. Nothing but pure TNB.

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Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#6 Apr 7, 2010
And the animated version.

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Ascot Vale, Australia

#7 Apr 7, 2010
the fear of Islam lol

why do u care, u raped them killed them drugged them... out alcohol in every culture.. so now they found something to empower them... ISLAM

now u feel threatened

your people call the abos and all other names..look down at them.. Christianity haven't done shit to them but destroying them...

I welcome all my black indigenous Austrlains to Islam..

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""What does Islam stand for? Islam offers a faith untainted by colonialism and racism. It is a liberating religion," says Davis. "Though the Bible said you shalt not kill, they killed, thou shall not rape, they raped our women, thou shalt not steal, they stole our land. Islam at its essence is pure. My forefathers had no army and no guns and lived in Aboriginal townships and camps. That's the difference between the Muslim and Christian faiths: one is for the oppressed and one's for the oppressor, one's for the coloniser and one for the colonised."

PERFECTLY SAID

one for the oppressor one for the oppressed
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Ascot Vale, Australia

#9 Apr 7, 2010
tweeter is afraid

enough is enough said the aboriginals..

200 years and no improvement.. maybe they will find empowerment in Islam..

welcome to the Aboriginals,the kings of this land

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Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#10 Apr 7, 2010
And what you didn't see.

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Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#11 Apr 7, 2010
TBA

Gymea, Australia

#12 Apr 7, 2010
lol wrote:
tweeter is afraid
enough is enough said the aboriginals..
200 years and no improvement.. maybe they will find empowerment in Islam..
welcome to the Aboriginals,the kings of this land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =si4X6A8pmcUXX&feature=rel ated
empowerment in the culture which enslaved african blacks long before the europeans used african slaves?
Yeah right- some muslim countries still are involved in the slave trade.
Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#13 Apr 7, 2010
lol wrote:
tweeter is afraid
enough is enough said the aboriginals..
200 years and no improvement.. maybe they will find empowerment in Islam..
welcome to the Aboriginals,the kings of this land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =si4X6A8pmcUXX&feature=rel ated
I'm actually part Aboriginal ( A very small part )which I guess is more Aboriginal than you.

Where ever you find a black run society this is what you can expect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Feb 10

Australia

#14 Apr 7, 2010
Tweeter wrote:
Blacks world wide never fail to amuse me LOL !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hq7p2Qioui8XX
Excellent, Tweets!

Saw this before but it's always educational and amusing to watch it again.

"He's bleedin'".

Oh poor baby!

Maybe white guy was a Vietnam vet, he's around the right age?
Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#15 Apr 7, 2010
Tiger7 wrote:
Maybe white guy was a Vietnam vet, he's around the right age?
He is check out the other clips that I posted after.
fact

Melbourne, Australia

#16 Apr 7, 2010
lol wrote:
tweeter is afraid
enough is enough said the aboriginals..
200 years and no improvement.. maybe they will find empowerment in Islam..
welcome to the Aboriginals,the kings of this land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =si4X6A8pmcUXX&feature=rel ated
That's the difference between the Muslim and Christian faiths: one is for the oppressed and one's for the oppressor, one's for the coloniser and one for the colonised."

At least Davis recognises that Islam is the religion of oppression. But after ther history why would Aboriginals wish to be further oppressed by oppressors? It begs reasoning! No BS about pure either - the religion isn't pure, it doesn't let people be themselves or do what they'd wish to if it is against Islam. They might as well tie a rope around your neck and attach it to a fence for all the freedom of speech you have.
educate yourself

Melbourne, Australia

#17 Apr 7, 2010
lol wrote:
tweeter is afraid
enough is enough said the aboriginals..
200 years and no improvement.. maybe they will find empowerment in Islam..
welcome to the Aboriginals,the kings of this land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =si4X6A8pmcUXX&feature=rel ated
200 years and there has been plenty of improvements. you know nothing. with Islam they would lose the rights and freedoms they've got. and the majority drink far, far too much alcohol to convert to Islam so I feel confident that most Aboriginals will stick with the reigion they've had for thousands of years. but there is nothing demure or peaceful about the way you're conducting yourself.

Since: Feb 10

Australia

#18 Apr 7, 2010
Tweeter wrote:
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He is check out the other clips that I posted after.
Tom got his bag stolen - how typical.

"I don't normally conduct myself like that"

Oh yeah.

Comments say it all.
Andrew

Sydney, Australia

#19 Apr 7, 2010
This is my favourite example of street justice.
Enjoy "Pimp Vs Karate Champ".
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Since: Feb 10

Australia

#20 Apr 7, 2010
Andrew wrote:
This is my favourite example of street justice.
Enjoy "Pimp Vs Karate Champ".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z5eLpEKC_TQXX&feature=rel ated
Hooker should have given PimpDaddy a few kicks while he was on the ground.
Tweeter

Dunedin, New Zealand

#21 Apr 7, 2010
Andrew wrote:
This is my favourite example of street justice.
Enjoy "Pimp Vs Karate Champ".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z5eLpEKC_TQXX&feature=rel ated
That's a keeper. THANKS !

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