How Empires Fall

[Arindam]

Excellent Post. I read the article on counterpunch.org , and it is definitely one of the most interesting by Mr. Roberts.

Here's the link to the full article:

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts05132008.h...

It reminds me of the following:

Hundred Years of War Against Germany
http://vho.org/tr/2003/4/Werner373-385.html

Another classic well worth reading is the following:

Military or Market-Driven Empire Building?
http://www.voltairenet.com/article156825.html

[Andrew]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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Thanks mate. just trying to educate these racist convict de-generate trash downunder who are totally oblivious to the rapid global power-shift to the East. BTW, my learned friend, please check out ASIA TIMES and COMMON DREAMS besides the excellent COUNTERPUNCH site. The racist warmongering Anglo trash are finished. The world belongs to the motivated, educated and civilized Asians.

No stupid. Nations fall the same as houses. Houses fall when they have been eaten out by termites and nations fall when they have been eaten out by swarms of hateful immigrant vermin filth.

[Bob]

Andrew wrote:

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No stupid. Nations fall the same as houses. Houses fall when they have been eaten out by termites and nations fall when they have been eaten out by swarms of hateful immigrant vermin filth.

He is not a termite but a parasite.He needs a healthy host to suck life from with out ever giving anything back.

[Kazzi]

Now why aren't you a professor, your way with words is 'delightful'.

I see you got your two brain cells worth in. We're surprised the ape shit Geo/Celine trash has TIME to pound keyboards, with all the 'saving the world' and raping native animals (hey, you said so!).

[Fordas]

Andrew wrote:

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No stupid. Nations fall the same as houses. Houses fall when they have been eaten out by termites and nations fall when they have been eaten out by swarms of hateful immigrant vermin filth.

Whats the go with you and immigrants? Havent we done enough to earn our place in this nation. Snap out of it buddy!

[Dee]

I pretty much agree - the two world wars were an absolute disaster for the West. We lost millions of our best and brightest young men on both sides - for what?

[Kazzi]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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I always was a LINGUIST, I can teach you about oral stuff..eh..

Pity that your LINGUIST skills don't come across SO GREAT in writing. At least now I know that there ARE some HORRIBLE Greeks in this world, I didn't know that until I met you. Every single Greek person I've met (until you) were nice people. And your anger issue must be that your parents were immigrants. Should you be punished forever for not having a brain? Of course not. So just drop your attitude. I'm sure you'd better off actually doing something constructive, not reducing yourself to slander EVERY time someone says something you don't agree with/seems Anglo, and just trying to be NICE.

[AsiaSauce]

Andrew wrote:

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No stupid. Nations fall the same as houses. Houses fall when they have been eaten out by termites and nations fall when they have been eaten out by swarms of hateful immigrant vermin filth.

"hateful immigrant vermin filth"???
And you would be.......aboriginal?

[Thomas]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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I always was a LINGUIST, I can teach you about oral stuff..eh..

R U SURE AHMED?

[dave_931]

Good article.

Identifies some key reasons for the decline of a civilisation:

Anglo trash wrote:

idiots that comprise [the] ruling class

Large socities do not decline because of immigrants or because of workers rights or the wrong political system (demcracy or monarchy or empire, etc). They decline because the people pulling the strings, in what ever arrangment reigns, begin doing so for their own gains rather than for the broad long term interests of society as a whole.

America's elites (representatives of big business) are too busy ensuring the next profit thus they move the guts of their economic activities off shore while championing wars in the name of 'progress' and 'freedom' to secure new markets in new lands. Sounds simplistic, but most quick generalisations of the facts do.

[ConfessionbyGod]

British Empire was collapsed by the burden and misery of death and distruction it brought in the life of millions of people around the Globe. All the criminal empires fall one day, the natural justice takes it's course.

Salient Features of Brit Empire:-
Economic exploitation and distruction of economy of the invaded country.
Anarchy, Bloodshed and corruption.
Racial discrimination and Slavery.
Crimes against humanity.
Mass murders and genocide.
Divide and Rule policy.
suppression of basic human rights, self determination etc
Transfer of countries wealth to Britain.

It was the single most important event in the life of millions of people who were living a life of misery and expolitation under the criminal empire.

[Bob]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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You had to get your two BOBS worth didn't ya ..you dumb in-bred Souvalki fest..It is a disgusting shame that the dumber than ape shit Aussie Convict trash now have access to the internet and try to pound keys in frustration and well as their kin.LOL.

But thats what you are.a parasite.going from host to host.

[Bob]

ConfessionbyGod wrote:

British Empire was collapsed by the burden and misery of death and distruction it brought in the life of millions of people around the Globe. All the criminal empires fall one day, the natural justice takes it's course.
Salient Features of Brit Empire:-
Economic exploitation and distruction of economy of the invaded country.
Anarchy, Bloodshed and corruption.
Racial discrimination and Slavery.
Crimes against humanity.
Mass murders and genocide.
Divide and Rule policy.
suppression of basic human rights, self determination etc
Transfer of countries wealth to Britain.
It was the single most important event in the life of millions of people who were living a life of misery and expolitation under the criminal empire.

Get your self ready for the Islamic Empire..If you are unsure..read the Quran all what you post is in there

[Dee]

Bob wrote:

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Get your self ready for the Islamic Empire..If you are unsure..read the Quran all what you post is in there

It will never happen. The Muslims would never be capable of ruling the world, they couldn't even manage to defeat Israel.

Would the Muslims close down all entertainment industries? No more tv, no more movies, no more Hollywood, no more music, no more fashionable clothes, etc.

Will never happen - we are far more likely to corrupt them, look at the oil sheiks.

[lawyer]

Dee wrote:

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It will never happen. The Muslims would never be capable of ruling the world, they couldn't even manage to defeat Israel.
Would the Muslims close down all entertainment industries? No more tv, no more movies, no more Hollywood, no more music, no more fashionable clothes, etc.
Will never happen - we are far more likely to corrupt them, look at the oil sheiks.

never know>>>>>

[lawyer]

ConfessionbyGod wrote:

British Empire was collapsed by the burden and misery of death and distruction it brought in the life of millions of people around the Globe. All the criminal empires fall one day, the natural justice takes it's course.
Salient Features of Brit Empire:-
Economic exploitation and distruction of economy of the invaded country.
Anarchy, Bloodshed and corruption.
Racial discrimination and Slavery.
Crimes against humanity.
Mass murders and genocide.
Divide and Rule policy.
suppression of basic human rights, self determination etc
Transfer of countries wealth to Britain.
It was the single most important event in the life of millions of people who were living a life of misery and expolitation under the criminal empire.

you are partially right.

[Andrew]

Fordas wrote:

<quoted text>Whats the go with you and immigrants? Havent we done enough to earn our place in this nation. Snap out of it buddy!

What have you done for Australia? Name it. The following is part of an anonymous article written by an American but it sums up my loathing for certain kinds of immigrants well.

"The fact remains the world has grown sick of the
intrusive disruption of whining immigrants, plain and simple.

Where once there was tolerance, that tolerance and
goodwill has be stretched and stamped on by the immigrants.

There will be massive bloodshed across Europe and
in North America as the immigrants are given their
richly deserved reward. This includes the illegal
Mexicans here in the USA.

The Storm is on the horizon."

[Fordas]

Andrew wrote:

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What have you done for Australia? Name it. The following is part of an anonymous article written by an American but it sums up my loathing for certain kinds of immigrants well.
"The fact remains the world has grown sick of the
intrusive disruption of whining immigrants, plain and simple.
Where once there was tolerance, that tolerance and
goodwill has be stretched and stamped on by the immigrants.
There will be massive bloodshed across Europe and
in North America as the immigrants are given their
richly deserved reward. This includes the illegal
Mexicans here in the USA.
The Storm is on the horizon."

"What have you done for Australia?" No! What have you done for Australia smarty pants?

[Right-Wing Revolutionist]

Anglo trash wrote:

Unnecessary Wars
How Empires Fall
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
In a new book that will infuriate the fake conservatives who inhabit the Republican Party, Patrick J. Buchanan documents how British self-righteousness, delusion, and hubris destroyed both the British Empire and Western ascendancy in two unnecessary wars launched by a small cabal of morons that ruled Britain
Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War shows that the two world wars that destroyed European civilization began when England declared war on Germany, thus dragging in the Empire, Commonwealth, and United States. This was a strategic blunder unparalleled in history. Mighty Britain emerged from World War II as an American dependency.
Buchanan cites such British notables as F.J.P. Veale, B.H. Liddell Hart, and C.P. Snow to document that it was Winston Churchill who committed, in Veale’s words,“the first deliberate breach of the fundamental rule of civilized warfare that hostilities must only be waged against the enemy combatant forces.” It was Churchill, not Hitler, who first targeted civilian populations in World War II and caused the structure of civilized warfare to collapse in ruins.
The Americans quickly adopted Churchill’s criminal policy of attacking civilians, culminating in the outrageous use of nuclear weapons against two Japanese cities, the slaughter of Vietnamese civilians, and the ongoing slaughter of Afghan and Iraqi civilians.
A popular American myth is that “the greatest generation” saved the world from Nazi tyranny. As Buchanan points out, the fact of the matter is that the Normandy invasion in June 1944 played little, if any, role in Germany’s defeat. By the end of 1942 Hitler had lost World War II at Stalingrad, long before any American troops appeared on the scene. What the Normandy invasion achieved 18 months later was to keep the Red Army from over-running all of Europe.
Although Buchanan’s book is about how the British destroyed themselves, Buchanan is clearly thinking about America. In the closing pages Buchanan shows how the Bush Regime has broken from the sound policy of President Reagan and is replicating the British folly of self-destruction.“There is hardly a blunder of the British Empire we have not replicated,” laments Buchanan.

That Paul Craig Roberts sounds like an intelligent fella, and he's right, England gained absolutely NOTHING by declaring an unprovoked war on Hitler's Germany. Due to England's Germanic heritage the Nazis tried to make peace with Britain countless times, but the British commie government wasn't having none of it. British Fascist Oswald Mosley actually warned about the dangers of this Anglo-American alliance, and the future problems it would bring to both Britain and the rest of Europe, and one only has to look at the modern Americanization of the west to see that he was right. Trash TV, hip-hop, celebritism, multiculturalism, fast food and gangsters. This is what modern Europe is all about unfortionetly!

By the way, Churchill himself was actually half American and half Jewish. We seem to of had a lot of foreign PM's running this country, that's always been our problem. Even the likes of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown aren't even English, they're both Scottish!

[Right-Wing Revolutionist]

ConfessionbyGod wrote:

British Empire was collapsed by the burden and misery of death and distruction it brought in the life of millions of people around the Globe.

No, the British Empire collapsed because we strained all our resources in fighting the Fascists. But this is what the New World Order elite actully wanted. They wanted Europe to internally destroy itself so it would pave the way for the new dawn of globalization! Look at the steps in which followed, First you had the defeat of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, then the United Nations (one world government) was formed followed by NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization), and let's not forget the millions of Asian immigrants (cheap labour) that had migrated to Europe after the war, and of course recently you've had similar organisations popping up all over the globe, EU (European Union, AU (African Union)...ect...ect.