Indians ask fat whites to lose weight

[Kazzi]

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Indians Find U.S. at Fault in Food Cost
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By HEATHER TIMMONS
Published: May 14, 2008
NEW DELHI — Instead of blaming India and other developing nations for the rise in food prices, Americans should rethink their energy policy — and go on a diet.
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The purchases and disposal of food by typical American shoppers have tongues wagging bitterly at Indian research institutes.
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Comparison Consuming That has been the response, basically, of a growing number of politicians, economists and academics in this country, who are angry at statements by top United States officials that India’s rising prosperity is to blame for food inflation.
The debate has sometimes devolved into what sounded like petty playground taunts over who are the real gluttons devouring the world’s resources.
For instance, Pradeep S. Mehta, secretary general of the center for international trade, economics and the environment of CUTS International, an independent research institute based here, said that if Americans slimmed down to the weight of middle-class Indians,“many hungry people in sub-Saharan Africa would find food on their plates.”
He added, archly, that the money spent in the United States on liposuction to get rid of fat from excess consumption could be funneled to feed famine victims.
Mr. Mehta’s comments may sound like the macroeconomic equivalent of “so’s your old man,” but they reflect genuine outrage — and ballooning criticism — toward the United States in particular, over recent remarks by President Bush.
After a news conference in Missouri on May 2, he was quoted as saying of India’s burgeoning middle class,“When you start getting wealth, you start demanding better nutrition and better food, and so demand is high, and that causes the price to go up.”
The comments, widely reported in the developing world, followed a statement on the subject by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that had upset many Indians.
In response to the president’s remarks, a ranking official in the commerce ministry, Jairam Ramesh, told the Press Trust of India,“George Bush has never been known for his knowledge of economics,” and the remarks proved again how “comprehensively wrong” he is.

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The Asian Age, a newspaper based here, argued in an editorial last week that Mr. Bush’s “ignorance on most matters is widely known and openly acknowledged by his own countrymen,” and that he must not be allowed to “get away” with an effort to “divert global attention from the truth by passing the buck on to India.”
The developing nations, and in particular China and India, are being blamed for global problems, including the rising cost of commodities and the increase in greenhouse gas emissions, because they are consuming more goods and fuel than ever before. But Indians from the prime minister’s office on down frequently point out that per capita, India uses far lower quantities of commodities and pollutes far less than nations in the West, particularly the United States.
Explaining the food price increases, Indian politicians and academics cite consumption in the United States; the West’s diversion of arable land into the production of ethanol and other biofuels; agricultural subsidies and trade barriers from Washington and the European Union; and finally the decline in the exchange rate of the dollar.
There may be some foundation to Indians’ accusations of hypocrisy by the West. The United States uses — or throws away — 3,770 calories a person each day, according to data from the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization collected in 2001-3, compared with 2,440 calories per person in India. Americans are also the largest per capita consumers in any major economy of the most energy-intensive common food source, beef, the Agriculture Department says.
And the United States and Canada lead the world in oil consumption per person, according to the Energy Information Administration, an Energy Department agency.
When it comes to trade, Western farming subsidies undercut agricultural production in fertile areas of Africa, India’s commerce minister, Kamal Nath, said in a telephone interview, repeating the point that Americans waste more food than people in many other countries.
The United States is responsible “many times more” than India for the world food crisis, said Ramesh Chand, an economist with the Indian Council of Agricultural Research, which advises the government on farm policy.The Bush administration has called for a truce. President Bush is a “great friend and admirer” of India, the United States ambassador here, David C. Mulford, said last week. He added that “this is a time for increased cooperation among nations to solve this problem and that hostile political commentary is not productive.”
A White House spokesman, Scott Stanzel, said,“We think it is a good thing countries are developing, that more and more people have higher standards of living.”
Some economists argue that blaming India’s growth is not only unfair, but makes little sense.
Food prices have not been rising continually as developing nations grew, said Ramgopal Agarwala, a former World Bank economist and senior adviser at RIS, a research institute in New Delhi.“They were static until 2006, then in 2007 and 2008 there was a sudden spark,” he said. But India has been growing for the last decade. This is “not last year’s phenomena,” he said.
“I don’t know who advised the president” on his recent comments, Mr. Agarwala added, but his analysis is “subprime.”
Mr. Mehta of the research institute conceded that his remarks on liposuction were meant to be tongue in cheek, but that “politically incorrect” attitudes like President Bush’s and Ms. Rice’s needed to be challenged. Rather than blaming India, Mr. Mehta said, the West should be adjusting to a changing world.
“If the developing world is going to develop, demand is going to go up and there are going to be new political paradigms,” he said.
Hari Kumar contributed reporting.

[Kazzi]

Good come back!!!!!! Ya stupid Greek.

[Kazzi]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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I would love to GREEK you..bend it like Beckham..eh.. you might enjoy it if your arse was not like the rear end of a hippo in heat crapping in the Zambezi..LOL

36-25-36 of fine Aussie woman ... Who does your rear end look like? I'm imagining Fat Bastard from Austin Powers.

[Dee]

"Fat whites ask Indians to exert some self control and stop overpopulating the world"

[AsiaSauce]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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Greek God Apollo look alike. I often get mistaken for him with my good looks, wit, chram and sheer chivilry.

So you see yourself as some kind of gay icon?

[Cautiously optimistic]

Dee wrote:

"Fat whites ask Indians to exert some self control and stop overpopulating the world"

Or at least use contraception.

[Dee]

Cautiously optimistic wrote:

<quoted text>Or at least use contraception.

Too late for that. Between them, the criminal Indians and the criminal Chinese have made the world a worse place for everyone by their refusal to stop pumping out children they can't afford to feed or educate.

The Chinese even unbalanced their population by aborting female babies in their millions, obviously without a thought for the future.

Europeans did the responsible thing and limited our birthrate, but it was the silliest thing we could have done.

[Forum Modulator]

Who would feel like eating with raw effluent flowing past your front door. India is literally a shithole. They need some plumbing, real bad! I don't know why you would even buy food from that stank place. They don't have to go too far for fertilizer. Maybe all fat Americans should go to India for a holiday. They will definitley lose some wieght.

[Kazzi]

Anglo Trash wrote:

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Greek God Apollo look alike. I often get mistaken for him with my good looks, wit, chram and sheer chivilry.

I heard some Greek women describing Fat Bastard as the modern day Apollo, so that makes sense! Also, I see that very descriptive 'wit' being dispenced on a regular basis. It's VERY charming, I just bet there's LINES of polar bears and Canadian women queueing outside your trailer door.
I think I'm going to dub you Captain Canuck, Superhero, descendent of Uncle Sam and John Bull.

[Kirk]

Dee wrote:

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Europeans did the responsible thing and limited our birthrate, but it was the silliest thing we could have done.

The Europeans made a mistake that cannot be undone. Ya'll got taken. Too bad. I feel your pain. LOL.

[AsiaSauce]

Dee wrote:

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Too late for that. Between them, the criminal Indians and the criminal Chinese have made the world a worse place for everyone by their refusal to stop pumping out children they can't afford to feed or educate.
The Chinese even unbalanced their population by aborting female babies in their millions, obviously without a thought for the future.
Europeans did the responsible thing and limited our birthrate, but it was the silliest thing we could have done.

"The Chinese even unbalanced their population by aborting female babies in their millions, obviously without a thought for the future."
Or were they thinking of the future? China rarely does anything without thinking of the long-term. Hundreds of millions of disaffected young men could form a ready-made army should the need arise (though also a domestic threat if they cannot be controlled or sent to war). It also means a slowing birthrate.

[Dee]

AsiaSauce wrote:

<quoted text>"The Chinese even unbalanced their population by aborting female babies in their millions, obviously without a thought for the future."
Or were they thinking of the future? China rarely does anything without thinking of the long-term. Hundreds of millions of disaffected young men could form a ready-made army should the need arise (though also a domestic threat if they cannot be controlled or sent to war). It also means a slowing birthrate.

A slowing birthrate is the up side, but I don't think they thought ahead far enough -

Crisis looms as 18 million Chinese can't find a wife: fears of sexual turmoil and 'bachelor villages'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/26/g...

"China is planning to tighten punishments for sex-selective abortions amid concerns that its widening gender imbalance will lead to wife trafficking, sexual crimes and social frustration.
Shocking new figures released by the state media show that the worst affected city, Lianyungang in Jiangsu province, has a ratio of 165 boys to 100 girls among children aged one to four.

Nationwide, six males are born for every five females, far above the international average. With the gap growing every year as a result of increased access to ultrasound sex-checking technology, one senior official warned that China faces the 'most serious gender imbalance in the world'.

And this is even more disturbing -

Western Economics Meets Chinese Culture: The Result is ‘Corpse Brides’
August 20, 2007
http://www.northstarwriters.com/lb071.htm

"As The Economist recently reported, in China tradition demands that a man be buried with his wife. If an unmarried male passes, he too must be buried with a special lady friend and the burial ceremony will bind them together forever. How can you ensure that you too will cross over to the other side with your better half? Depends on how much you are willing to pay.

Grave-robbing has found a new market: Corpse brides. However, to satisfy the exponentially growing demand, the necro-matchmakers are now turning to a new source of the dead – the living.

The practice goes back to the Third Century A.D. After being strongly discouraged by the communist powers, it is now reappearing, and, staying true to their newly found capitalist calling, many merchants in the black market postmortem matrimony business are finding that cost-benefit analysis points to murder, not excavation.

In one case, a man strangled six women for sale as corpse brides because it was just more economically sound. These “wet” goods, as new corpses are called, fetch up to 10 times as much as the “dry” ones, or about $4,000.

According to the BBC, in India, the practice of female infanticide is taking another disturbing turn as increasingly wealthy provinces are continuing the practice. The economic argument that insisted that girls are harder to raise, do not contribute as much to the household and cost the family much when at the marrying age is not as relevant. Consequently, the contemporary budgeting in an Indian household is the 50,000 rupees to give the in-laws for raising a girl versus the 500 for an abortion..."

[Convictdumbarse]

Forum Modulator wrote:

Who would feel like eating with raw effluent flowing past your front door. India is literally a shithole. They need some plumbing, real bad! I don't know why you would even buy food from that stank place. They don't have to go too far for fertilizer. Maybe all fat Americans should go to India for a holiday. They will definitley lose some wieght.

Australia is the worst polluter in the world, bloody convict dumb arse, only difference is your biased and racist media tells you all the crap about Asia while cover up all the dirt and filth created by Australians.

Australians named worst emitters

The inventory lists CO2 emissions from more than 4,000 companies
A study of the world's power stations has shown the extent to which developed countries produce more carbon dioxide per head than emerging economies.
Australians were found to be the world's worst polluters per capita, producing five times as much CO2 from generating power as China.

The US came second with eight tonnes of the greenhouse gas per head - 16 times more than that produced by India.

The US also produced the most CO2 in total, followed by China.

The Carbon Monitoring for Action (Carma) website is the first global inventory of emissions and looks at 50,000 power stations.

Its data was compiled by the Center for Global Development, a US think-tank.

"IF THE rest of the world emitted carbon gases at the same per person rate as Australia, its population would need seven planets to sustain the pollution, according to a damning United Nations report".

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Convictdumbarse wrote:

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Australia is the worst polluter in the world, bloody convict dumb arse, only difference is your biased and racist media tells you all the crap about Asia while cover up all the dirt and filth created by Australians.

It's your biased and racist media too. It's your dirt and filth as well, Convict.

[Kazzi]

Convictdumbarse wrote:

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Australia is the worst polluter in the world, bloody convict dumb arse, only difference is your biased and racist media tells you all the crap about Asia while cover up all the dirt and filth created by Australians.
Australians named worst emitters
The inventory lists CO2 emissions from more than 4,000 companies
A study of the world's power stations has shown the extent to which developed countries produce more carbon dioxide per head than emerging economies.
Australians were found to be the world's worst polluters per capita, producing five times as much CO2 from generating power as China.
The US came second with eight tonnes of the greenhouse gas per head - 16 times more than that produced by India.
The US also produced the most CO2 in total, followed by China.
The Carbon Monitoring for Action (Carma) website is the first global inventory of emissions and looks at 50,000 power stations.
Its data was compiled by the Center for Global Development, a US think-tank.
"IF THE rest of the world emitted carbon gases at the same per person rate as Australia, its population would need seven planets to sustain the pollution, according to a damning United Nations report".

There's a separate thread for this article, and it's more informative than your too.

[Kazzi]

Here you go everyone:

From the same site and article -

http://209.85.173.104/search?q =cache:OqT1VzAM6zMJ:www.actnow .com.au/Opinion/Rudds_rapid_ra tification_of_the_Kyoto_Protoc ol.aspx+IF+THE+rest+of+the+wor ld+emitted+carbon+gases+at+the +same&hl=en&ct=clnk &cd=3&gl=au

Newly elected Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has finally given the Kyoto Protocol the recognition and attention it deserves, with Australia fast-tracking the ratification process. Not only was ratifying Kyoto a step in the right direction, it signals to the international community that Australia is committed to working together to reduce global carbon emissions.

According to a United Nations report, Australia is ranked third in per capita emissions behind the US and Canada. "If the rest of the world emitted carbon gases at the same per person rate as Australia, its population would need seven planets to sustain the pollution..." Signing Kyoto represents a crucial shift in Australia’s war on climate change. Now is the time to make sure that this symbolic move becomes a reality through nation-wide policies and clear-cut emissions targets.

[Dee]

China is world's worst polluter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_7340...

"China has become the world's biggest polluter, taking over from America, according to a new report.

It's thought that the amount of greenhouse gas being produced by China hadn't been estimated properly - and it's making much more than thought.

University of California experts warn that unless something is done, China's increasing pollution will stamp out the good work in other countries.

They think China probably became the world's worst polluter in 2006-2007.

Until now it has been generally believed that the USA was the country with the worst pollution."

[Cautiously optimistic]

Dee wrote:

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Too late for that. Between them, the criminal Indians and the criminal Chinese have made the world a worse place for everyone by their refusal to stop pumping out children they can't afford to feed or educate.
The Chinese even unbalanced their population by aborting female babies in their millions, obviously without a thought for the future.
Europeans did the responsible thing and limited our birthrate, but it was the silliest thing we could have done.

Sad but true

[Kirk]

How else does humankind make up for barren & sterile European women & men ? Thank god for the Indians & Chinese we have an abundant stock of smart,bright, intelligent humans - who also have super innovative cuisine to boot.

My condolences to te Europeanns on their sterility & barrenness.