It's the Guns, Stupid

[Dr Sybil]

ZigmunnDroid wrote:

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Hey Doc, what sites do you recommend. The Brady Bill Bunch. The American Hunters and Shooters Assoc site.
Gun Show listed some heavily referenced site.
Lets see you put up the money.

Well, droid, if you had been paying attention in class, you would know that I do not recommend any websites whatsoever. I recommend life. I know you don't understand that, but as you get older it will become more clear to you. Life offers many lessons, so.......learn.

And don't you gun freaks worry about protecting me. I trust myself for that. Why do you feel that I am more privilged than others? Rather confused reasoning, I say. We are all equal - you are no better than me, just as I am no better than you. You kids need to get down off your pedastal. I agree with plant lady on this one. I just talked to your mamma and she wants you kids to come on home now so that she can wash your nasty little mouths out with soap. Who ever taught you people such disrespect? Have you not been disiplined in your entire pitiful lives? You are a sad lot.

[feedup]

Dr Ruth wrote:

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Shame on you little boy. I am a DIVA and R>>>E>>S> >P>>E>>C> >T.

No, I would say you are the Focal point of educated idiots. Inbred stupidity due to the lack of any social activity. Trained by socialistic educators without any knowledge of what they teach or preach. You have a common misunderstanding of the world around you. Encapsulate by your own thoughts and not by real judgment but only emotions. PHD brings up enslavement thoughts in some people because of the socialist willingness to give up freedom for security. Now if you want to debate on a level that you may be able to understand then you will need to step out of the Ivory mind set and think like a normal person.

[ZigmunnDroid]

Highlander wrote:

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Well, let's look at that, shall we?
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Oh, of course! Toss in the random ad hominem!
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And finally, it all boils down to just this: The War Machine that wanted to work with the Axis powers by selling them war materials, were quite literally FORCED to go to war against those Axis powers, and in the process invalidate themselves as allies to said Axis powers.
FDR got his war, the War Machine made their money, and the ultra-wealthy made billions over the dead bodies of combatants of BOTH sides.

I find it strange that you can quote the parts of my reference you agree with as gospel yet the parts you disagree with you consider speculation.

High, I provided you with a requested reference. Then you go and post all that crap about Ford and turning wine to sewage, some neutralist movement and Nazi Lite. What the hell is all that crap.
Ad Hominem my butt.

For God's sake, you jumped into a post GS and I had and the first thing you said was "YOU would be a fool". And you did it with all those silly punctuations. I swear to God posting with you is sometimes like talking to somebody with touretts. I apologize to people with touretts. If you see these posts, you would forgive me.

I pointed out that you dreamed up a term that I had not inferred nor mentioned. I pointed it out in a mildly insulting way. Add words to others post as you will, when you do it to me, I consider it an insult, and I will ad hominem you as you so richly deserve.
Behave and I will stop insulting you.
Take umbrage with what I say, not what you dream up.
If you consider my reference invalid, point that out.
Don't try to tell me what "Nazi Lite" means.

Nice answer on speculative history. I have some additional opinions on what if, I would love to discuss that on another thread. However, I am only entertained with the story of British and Indians.

I have seen you write some extremely well laid out well thought posts. Just great stuff. Then you pull this crap.

Where I stick my nose is pretty much my business as you richly point out. Same with you. While you may only wish to deal with direct issues, I feel that distant issues, headed my way, be dealt with "over there", rather than in my front yard. Many people find that when you deal with the direct issue, it is already on their border.

If you want to post about some guy who thought that Ford was part of a group that Lindbergh worked for before he worked for the army when industrialists sold arms to nazis and some people were sympathizers or nazi lites or British sympathizers, and you want me to spend time reading about that guy, I give up. You win.

DO you need me to say, I was a fool, FDR sucks, beware the military industrial complex, I will.
If you will just quit posting stuff out of context.
And go back to writing those good posts.

Jesus, I just wasted an hour writing this.

That's just evil!

[ZigmunnDroid]

Dr Sybil wrote:

<quoted text>Well, droid, if you had been paying attention in class, you would know that I do not recommend any websites whatsoever. I recommend life. I know you don't understand that, but as you get older it will become more clear to you. Life offers many lessons, so.......learn.
And don't you gun freaks worry about protecting me. I trust myself for that. Why do you feel that I am more privilged than others? Rather confused reasoning, I say. We are all equal - you are no better than me, just as I am no better than you. You kids need to get down off your pedastal. I agree with plant lady on this one. I just talked to your mamma and she wants you kids to come on home now so that she can wash your nasty little mouths out with soap. Who ever taught you people such disrespect? Have you not been disiplined in your entire pitiful lives? You are a sad lot.

Yes, kettle. We are black.

[Dr Sybil]

My, my!!! Aren't we just cranky today, droid?

[JOHN C]

Pessimist wrote:

I’ve started to think it’s not guns it’s just Americans.

EVER YOU AUSSIE KANGAROO BUMPING IDIOTS BANNED MOST GUNS CRIME IN YOUR DUMBA** COUNTRY CRIMES HAS TAKEN OFF.

[Monty]

Dr Sybil wrote:

<quoted text>And don't you gun freaks worry about protecting me.

Gun freaks?? More of those voices and imaginary boogeymen in your head?

Dr Sybil wrote:

You kids need to get down off your pedastal.

You need to get through puberty.

I don't hold much hope for you though. Your projectionism hides a more sinister problem. All the signs of an abuser.

[Monty]

Dr Sybil wrote:

My, my!!! Aren't we just cranky today, droid?

Hmmm, this from a suspected abuser. Rich.

[Dr Sybil]

Now I am an abuser? Of what, you?

[Dr Sybil]

Monty wrote:

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Hmmm, this from a suspected abuser. Rich.

So monty, you think I am a rich suspected abuser? And you are the poor accusing berater, right?

[ZigmunnDroid]

Dr Sybil wrote:

My, my!!! Aren't we just cranky today, droid?

Actually, I am. or was.
2nd beer on board, life is much better. Got to tuck my leetle boy in, kiss my wife goodnight, heck, good night to you too.

Life is the absolute best game in town.

Life does have excellent lessons, so does history. If you are lucky, you learn from both.

[GunShowOnTheNet]

McCain McBush wrote:

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Republicans aren’t doing so well lately. Gosh, what could it be? Besides:
The economy going in to the toilet...$3.70 for gasoline... TWO BOTCHED WARS, giving our troops tanks without proper armor, providing substandard treatment in VA hospitals, turning the U.S. in to the country that’s known around the world for TORTURING PRISONERS, then lying about it, doing NEARLY NOTHING ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION... gosh, if those aren’t what did it... what else could it be?
Maybe preaching to us about morals???
Note: Some of the cases below involve allegations but not convictions. All suspects are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
RECENT (2007 and 2008 only) Republican Sex Scandals (partial listing)
2008:
1. Bruce Barclay (REPUBLICAN)- accused of using hidden cameras to secretly tape hundreds of sexual encounters, many with MALE “ESCORTS”
2. Matthew Joseph Elliott (REPUBLICAN)- convicted of Sexual Exploitation of a Child
3. Robert McKee (REPUBLICAN)- charged with Burglary After Alleged Unauthorized Videotaping
2007:
4. Robert "Bob" Allen (REPUBLICAN)- arrested for solicitation of prostitution from a male officer inside a restroom
5. John David Roy Atchison (REPUBLICAN)- arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-YEAR-OLD GIRL
6. John Bryan (REPUBLICAN)- allegations that he had molested three girls, two were 12 – 15
7. Larry Craig (REPUBLICAN SENATOR)- arrested after complaints of lewd behavior in an airport men's room
8. John R. Curtin (REPUBLICAN)- convicted of molesting an UNDERAGE TEENAGE BOY
9. Richard Curtis (REPUBLICAN)- resigned from the House after reports of his sexual encounter with a male escort became public
10. Donald Fleischman (REPUBLICAN)- charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of EXPOSING HIMSELF TO A CHILD
11. Larry Dale Floyd (REPUBLICAN)- arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and seven related offenses
12. Ted Klaudt (REPUBLICAN)- found guilty of four counts of second-degree rape of two teenage foster daughters
13. Ronald C. Kline (REPUBLICAN)- pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography. In 2002, charged with child molestation and under house arrest on federal charges of possessing child pornography
14. Joseph M. McDade (REPUBLICAN)- was issued a summons on a charge of exposure of sexual organs, also accused of exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort
15. Patrick Lee McGuire (REPUBLICAN)- surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13
16. Jon Matthews (REPUBLICAN)- talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17
17. Joseph Monteleone Jr.(REPUBLICAN)- city councilman, was found guilty of fondling underage girls and asking them, to have sex with him
18. Armando Tebano (REPUBLICAN)- pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl
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In case you haven’t seen enough yet, THIS IS ONLY A FEW OF THE REPUBLICAN SEX SCANDALS LISTED AT: http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Sca...
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Clinton Casualties

A "Casualty" is defined as anyone threatened with harm or actually harmed because of their knowledge of and/or involvement in one or more of the Clinton Scandals.
http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/clintbo...

[Highlander]

Dr Ruth wrote:

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How is it off topic??? the I have a PH.D on the nexus of AmeriKKKan male impotency,

Really?

And you've been here masturbating the random American male?

DO TELL!!!

[Monty]

[QUOTE who="Mrs. Sybil"]<quoted text>
So monty, you think I am a rich suspected abuser? And you are the poor accusing berater, right?[/QUOTE]

Nope, but you DO show all of the signs. Especially the infantile projectionism.
Must come from the Piled Higher & Deeper standing.

[ZigmunnDroid]

Monty wrote:

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Hmmm, this from a suspected abuser. Rich.

No, no she's right. I was po'd.
Hopefully not as a response to the kettle. That is an oldy but goody.

I kind of got upset with this other poster that I usually get good info from when he posts.

Doc likes to do philosophy.

Damn hard to argue with that.

[GunShowOnTheNet]

McCain McBush wrote:

** No Copyright – OK to Repost Any or All **
Republicans aren’t doing so well lately. Gosh, what could it be? Besides:
The economy going in to the toilet...$3.70 for gasoline... TWO BOTCHED WARS, giving our troops tanks without proper armor, providing substandard treatment in VA hospitals, turning the U.S. in to the country that’s known around the world for TORTURING PRISONERS, then lying about it, doing NEARLY NOTHING ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION... gosh, if those aren’t what did it... what else could it be?
Maybe preaching to us about morals???
Note: Some of the cases below involve allegations but not convictions. All suspects are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
RECENT (2007 and 2008 only) Republican Sex Scandals (partial listing)
2008:
1. Bruce Barclay (REPUBLICAN)- accused of using hidden cameras to secretly tape hundreds of sexual encounters, many with MALE “ESCORTS”
2. Matthew Joseph Elliott (REPUBLICAN)- convicted of Sexual Exploitation of a Child
3. Robert McKee (REPUBLICAN)- charged with Burglary After Alleged Unauthorized Videotaping
2007:
4. Robert "Bob" Allen (REPUBLICAN)- arrested for solicitation of prostitution from a male officer inside a restroom
5. John David Roy Atchison (REPUBLICAN)- arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-YEAR-OLD GIRL
6. John Bryan (REPUBLICAN)- allegations that he had molested three girls, two were 12 – 15
7. Larry Craig (REPUBLICAN SENATOR)- arrested after complaints of lewd behavior in an airport men's room
8. John R. Curtin (REPUBLICAN)- convicted of molesting an UNDERAGE TEENAGE BOY
9. Richard Curtis (REPUBLICAN)- resigned from the House after reports of his sexual encounter with a male escort became public
10. Donald Fleischman (REPUBLICAN)- charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of EXPOSING HIMSELF TO A CHILD
11. Larry Dale Floyd (REPUBLICAN)- arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and seven related offenses
12. Ted Klaudt (REPUBLICAN)- found guilty of four counts of second-degree rape of two teenage foster daughters
13. Ronald C. Kline (REPUBLICAN)- pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography. In 2002, charged with child molestation and under house arrest on federal charges of possessing child pornography
14. Joseph M. McDade (REPUBLICAN)- was issued a summons on a charge of exposure of sexual organs, also accused of exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort
15. Patrick Lee McGuire (REPUBLICAN)- surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13
16. Jon Matthews (REPUBLICAN)- talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17
17. Joseph Monteleone Jr.(REPUBLICAN)- city councilman, was found guilty of fondling underage girls and asking them, to have sex with him
18. Armando Tebano (REPUBLICAN)- pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl
----------
In case you haven’t seen enough yet, THIS IS ONLY A FEW OF THE REPUBLICAN SEX SCANDALS LISTED AT: http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Sca...
** No Copyright – OK to Repost Any or All **

Barack Obama on Gun Control (Scroll down about 1/3 way down the page).
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

Barack Obama on Gun Control - with links/quotes
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_...

Hillary Clinton on Gun Control (Scroll down about 1/3 way down the page).
http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.ht...

Hillary Clinton on Gun Control - with links/quotes
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Hillary_Clint...

BOTH of them should scare ANY American concerned with TRUE Freedom and Liberty....

[Monty]

[QUOTE who="Mrs. Sybil"]Now I am an abuser? Of what, you?[/QUOTE]

I said you show all of the signs. Are you getting testy because you've been diagnosed?

[Dr Sybil]

ZigmunnDroid wrote:

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Actually, I am. or was.
2nd beer on board, life is much better. Got to tuck my leetle boy in, kiss my wife goodnight, heck, good night to you too.
Life is the absolute best game in town.
Life does have excellent lessons, so does history. If you are lucky, you learn from both.

Good night to you to! That was actually a respectable response and I thank you for it. The language and attitudes leave much to be desired. Tell the little one to sleep tight! Children are the most wonderful things in life that we have.

[Monty]

ZigmunnDroid wrote:

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No, no she's right. I was po'd.
Hopefully not as a response to the kettle. That is an oldy but goody.
I kind of got upset with this other poster that I usually get good info from when he posts.
Doc likes to do philosophy.
Damn hard to argue with that.

Doc has problem all his own.

[Dr Sybil]

Monty wrote:

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Nope, but you DO show all of the signs. Especially the infantile projectionism.
Must come from the Piled Higher & Deeper standing.

monty, dear, please clue me in on your definition of an abuser? Once you have done that, bother yourself long enough to go back and read some of your posts. Now then, does not that definition on the tip of your tongue fit yourself better than it does me? And please play fair - don't go changing your definition on us!