It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103299 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107789 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
What's it to you troll?
Enquiring minds desire to know.

Are you afraid of the answer?

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107790 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to deflect over to total gun deaths....OK. Roughly 19,000 of those deaths are people killing themselves, so your 30,000 number is BS anyway. Total murders for 2011 per the FBI UCS Table 20: 12,664.
A: I stated clearly total gun deaths in the US, might want to learn how to read there Pacha...you can't take what I say and invent your own conversation....it just ain't right!
Back to "assault weapons" and your claim that they are only needed for war. Per the Table 20 for 2011, rifles were only used to kill 323 people, and AR-15's were only a portion of that. In fact (according to the same table), rifles were the least used weapon of choice for murder. In fact, hands, feet, fists, etc. were used 2.3 times more often than rifles. And knives or other cutting instruments were used 5.2 times more often. Why aren't you crying about banning those???
And if that makes me stupid....you have the intelligence of a garden snail.
A: Well I would ban all those...baby steps...AV...baby steps.
Why are =>YOU<= so concerned about what happens in the U.S. of A?

You don't live there ...

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#107791 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to deflect over to total gun deaths....OK. Roughly 19,000 of those deaths are people killing themselves, so your 30,000 number is BS anyway. Total murders for 2011 per the FBI UCS Table 20: 12,664.
A: I stated clearly total gun deaths in the US, might want to learn how to read there Pacha...you can't take what I say and invent your own conversation....it just ain't right!
Back to "assault weapons" and your claim that they are only needed for war. Per the Table 20 for 2011, rifles were only used to kill 323 people, and AR-15's were only a portion of that. In fact (according to the same table), rifles were the least used weapon of choice for murder. In fact, hands, feet, fists, etc. were used 2.3 times more often than rifles. And knives or other cutting instruments were used 5.2 times more often. Why aren't you crying about banning those???
And if that makes me stupid....you have the intelligence of a garden snail.
A: Well I would ban all those...baby steps...AV...baby steps.
I realize you are getting old and your memory isn't what it used to be (that is assuming you actually used to have one). You were talking about AR's. Here is your post I initially responded to (although it wasn't addressed to me): "Yes the irony wasn't lost on me there Teaman....and yes it is the States that will change the stance on making it illegal to buy guns such as AR15, and ammo....this is a good thing, they have not wanted to stop sportsmen shooting at targets or hunters or those that need certain weapons for their own protection...they are just trying to remove those guns that are useless anywhere other than a war zone...brave and valiant stance by a selection of Republicans and Democrats for pulling together to fight death threats and verbal abuse etc, to effect such a major change.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/04/0... ;

So you are the one who deflected over to total gun deaths from AR'15's.

And how the hell are you going to ban people hands and feet, garden snail?{rolls eyes}

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#107792 May 21, 2013
Highlander wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are =>YOU<= so concerned about what happens in the U.S. of A?
You don't live there ...
Whats up,oh Kilted one? Still fighting the good fight I see.

We're holding our own,maybe even winning.... Barry has been the GREATEST gun salesman and NRA recruiter EVER..... I'M thinking of sending him a "Thank You" card.....

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#107793 May 21, 2013
Highlander wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget to pin a message to your clothes, because that's all which will be remaining when you get done!
:-))
Nah...I am still here scotty.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#107794 May 21, 2013
Highlander wrote:
<quoted text>
Enquiring minds desire to know.
Are you afraid of the answer?
Well when you find one let me know and I will tell them...

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#107795 May 21, 2013
Highlander wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are =>YOU<= so concerned about what happens in the U.S. of A?
You don't live there ...
You seem mighty interested for one I have had nothing to do with till now? Why are you so concerned about what I am concerned about?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#107796 May 21, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
I realize you are getting old and your memory isn't what it used to be (that is assuming you actually used to have one). You were talking about AR's. Here is your post I initially responded to (although it wasn't addressed to me): "Yes the irony wasn't lost on me there Teaman....and yes it is the States that will change the stance on making it illegal to buy guns such as AR15, and ammo....this is a good thing, they have not wanted to stop sportsmen shooting at targets or hunters or those that need certain weapons for their own protection...they are just trying to remove those guns that are useless anywhere other than a war zone...brave and valiant stance by a selection of Republicans and Democrats for pulling together to fight death threats and verbal abuse etc, to effect such a major change.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/04/0... ;
So you are the one who deflected over to total gun deaths from AR'15's.
And how the hell are you going to ban people hands and feet, garden snail?{rolls eyes}
Oh so now I am supposed to know when you are chaneling my other posters and having you wanting me to respond as if you were the original poster...you are losing it my friend.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#107797 May 21, 2013
ISTANBUL and REPUBLIC OF TURKEY
THE CENTER OF THE WORLD.

The Center of 3 Major Religions..

Churches,Mosques,Sinagogs and PEACE in Mind...
Craddle of the Civilizations and religions

&li st=RD02YgvYAfQQto4

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107798 May 21, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Whats up,oh Kilted one? Still fighting the good fight I see.
We're holding our own,maybe even winning.... Barry has been the GREATEST gun salesman and NRA recruiter EVER..... I'M thinking of sending him a "Thank You" card.....
'What's up,' you ask? Not much. Same ol' same ol'...

The only thing 'Barry' deserves is the same shit sandwich he's been forcing upon the rest of you.

I'd use stronger words, but the powers that be won't let that happen!

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107799 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah...I am still here scotty.
Yeah, we understand all that.

You're here to impose yourself upon the rest of us.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#107800 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh so now I am supposed to know when you are chaneling my other posters and having you wanting me to respond as if you were the original poster...you are losing it my friend.
More duck, dodge and deflect. You're pretty nimble for an old broad.

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107801 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Well when you find one let me know and I will tell them...
Oh, so cute ...

What's the matter, can't provide a valid response?

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107802 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem mighty interested for one I have had nothing to do with till now? Why are you so concerned about what I am concerned about?
Who are =>YOU<= to mind another nation's business?

Let's start there, shall we?

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107803 May 21, 2013
OguzTolga wrote:
ISTANBUL and REPUBLIC OF TURKEY
THE CENTER OF THE WORLD.
The Center of 3 Major Religions..
Churches,Mosques,Sinagogs and PEACE in Mind...
Craddle of the Civilizations and religions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G9rnMP2tUeEXX&list=RD02Yg vYAfQQto4
"Craddle of the Civilizations and religions"

Saaaaaayyyyy what?

NOTHING could be further from the truth!

Since: Feb 11

Ely, UK

#107804 May 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem mighty interested for one I have had nothing to do with till now? Why are you so concerned about what I am concerned about?
Ohhhhh,,, but you have pet.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#107805 May 21, 2013
OguzTolga wrote:
ISTANBUL and REPUBLIC OF TURKEY
THE CENTER OF THE WORLD.
The Center of 3 Major Religions..
Churches,Mosques,Sinagogs and PEACE in Mind...
Craddle of the Civilizations and religions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G9rnMP2tUeEXX&list=RD02Yg vYAfQQto4
Not even close. Try Jerusalem.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107806 May 21, 2013
LOL. The most guns ion the Advanced nations in the world, and the most violenc crime rates and the most murdedrs.

It is the guns STUPID.

Why cant the rest of the Advanced Nations, especially the English speaking nations keep up with the violencer, murders and mass shootings each year>

How are you going to make the future a better place for the minorities you blame now whentyhey overtake the white population>

Politics wont help. They will have the majority also.

Will their guns save you?LOL

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107807 May 21, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Not even close. Try Jerusalem.
Actually, try ~several~ other places altogether!

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#107808 May 21, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
LOL. The most guns ion the Advanced nations in the world, and the most violenc crime rates and the most murdedrs.
It is the guns STUPID.
Why cant the rest of the Advanced Nations, especially the English speaking nations keep up with the violencer, murders and mass shootings each year>
How are you going to make the future a better place for the minorities you blame now whentyhey overtake the white population>
Politics wont help. They will have the majority also.
Will their guns save you?LOL
Neither do you possess the statistical data, nor are you possessing of the anecdotal information to support your contentions.

Rather, all of which you possess are nothing more than your opinions, none of which are other than ~feelings~.

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