It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103299 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Levi

United States

#100239 Feb 16, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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Of course it is true of yourself, Energiser and other your bfs, Stupif.
Been lifting your skirt again for a quickie up the ole humtpy tonk, haven't you, while taking it behind myAss!.
So what else you doing here, laddiegayrentgirl?
Of course it is true of yourself, Energiser and other your bfs, Stupif.
Been lifting your skirt again for a quickie up the ole humtpy tonk, haven't you, while taking it behind myAss!
Levi

United States

#100240 Feb 16, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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At the elevators there is a notice. To paraphrase it reads
Any Foreigner who causes discord between the peoples of the Kingdom will be imprisoned for 5 years!
But it is not just the King. The common man here will kill you himself if you say anything disrespectfull about the King.
They love their king. There is no doubt about it.
You see the various Kings have managed to keep Thailand the only country in the region never to be Colonised. No mean feat.
But if you want some words here are some that I have them singing to now.
Evrywhere I hear the sound of marching, charging feet, boy
Cause summers here and the time is right for fighting in the street, boy
But what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock n roll band
Cause in sleepy london town
There's just no place for a street fighting man
No
Hey! think the time is right for a palace revolution
But where I live the game to play is compromise solution
Well, then what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock n roll band
Cause in sleepy london town
There's no place for a street fighting man
No
Hey! said my name is called disturbance
Ill shout and scream, I'll kill the king, I'll rail at all his servants
Well, what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock n roll band
Cause in sleepy london town
There's no place for a street fighting man
Yeah, they love their king, better yet, I bet they love life, they dont want their families hurt, killed, sold into slavery, so they keep their mouth shut. Come on gogobar, quit playing us for fools, this is the 21st century, we all know about your king.
So the notice on the elevator is basically telling people to keep their mouth shut about the king, lmao, that says alot there all by itself.
Still trying to weasle out of the pan huh? So your king is perfect? No faults, runs the kingdom like a God? Sounds about what the people of north korea thinks about their ruler, and he's starveing them to death. You people are pathetic.
GoGoBar

Hua Hin, Thailand

#100243 Feb 16, 2013
Well Levi, they dont play compromise solution.
They move ahead. They grow.
They are a nation of similar race that are united under a Monarch that they love and can identify with.

The place runs like clockwork. When it doesnt there is a coup and new elections are called for.
It is exactly what the gunnuts call for in the USOFA. A right wing coup and a return to conservative values.

Are you a street fighting man, Levi?
Levi

United States

#100244 Feb 16, 2013
Nu-da-nv-dv-na duk-shan-ee!
GoGoBar

Hua Hin, Thailand

#100245 Feb 16, 2013
Go Bar time....1000 or so bikies just rode into town. This will be fun.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#100247 Feb 16, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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Whts the matter dalit poofterboy with Undersized little midget d^k, cant take it?[BULLYING RANT FLICKED ASIDE]
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T6...

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#100248 Feb 16, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
"Domestic violence is epidemic, everywhere and under the radar," says Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis Medical Center.
Domestic abuse is not more prevalent in the United States than in other developed countries. But in the United States, the availability of firearms makes it far more lethal. When a gun is involved, the risk of a fatal outcome is 12 times greater than in domestic assaults involving other weapons or bodily force, research shows.
A 2002 study of 25 high-income countries, from the Harvard School of Public Health, found that the U.S. rate of female homicide was five times higher than that of all the other countries combined
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Analysis/2013/02/...
You obviously have never been to the middle east where the woman are treated like possessions or cattle. The US doesn't even come close.
sid

Chermside, Australia

#100249 Feb 16, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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You obviously have never been to the middle east where the woman are treated like possessions or cattle. The US doesn't even come close.
Doesn't matter if it's half of the middle east, it's still a sad reflection on a so called civilised society.
GoGoBar

Hua Hin, Thailand

#100251 Feb 16, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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You obviously have never been to the middle east where the woman are treated like possessions or cattle. The US doesn't even come close.
Youy are 100% correct.
Although we are talking about the USA.
Now in the middle east. We bcould take YEMEN.
Oh dear. Wobble head.
Usa 4.8/100K
Yem 4.6/100/k
Those Arabs just dont play ball.
What a bunch of hypo0crites. They should be bombed!
That will stop them.
GoGoBar

Hua Hin, Thailand

#100253 Feb 16, 2013
Gnight Girls.
Dont be scared.
Everyone can have a gun,
Sweet dreams.xxx
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#100254 Feb 16, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
Gnight Girls.
Dont be scared.
Everyone can have a gun,
Sweet dreams.xxx
Taking up with another 12 year old prostitute, are you?
Guppy

Venice, FL

#100255 Feb 16, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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You obviously have never been to the middle east where the woman are treated like possessions or cattle. The US doesn't even come close.
How do men really feel about women? Speak your mind.
Tray

New Albany, MS

#100256 Feb 16, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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How do men really feel about women? Speak your mind.
Kind of like toilet paper. They have a use but not the same one twice. You don't need their advice on anything except how to cook cookies. The vast majority of advances in civilization was by men, the women just were along for the ride. The next time I need a place to wipe a bodily secretion I'll let you know till then get in the kitchen and make cookies.

Since: Feb 11

Cambridge, UK

#100257 Feb 16, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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How do men really feel about women? Speak your mind.
With both hands ;-)

Since: Feb 11

Cambridge, UK

#100258 Feb 16, 2013
Checkm8 wrote:
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I have seen men do the self same thing where they flirt with other women in front of their lady but a punch from a female(in most cases) vs a male is like a bike vs a car, not to mention it is about common sense and restraint.
My relationship with my long term partner sees us get into some rather loud verbal disagreements, but if I ever raised my hand in violence toward her it would erode he trust in me, I would hate to see fear in her face when she looks at me. there is also a possibility that she might use a scanpan on me when I am sleeping :D
In short none of the women you mentioned pushed those guys to do anything that wasn't already part of their nature.
I think there are some women and men with past trust issues for good reasons, both will push any potential new partner to try and detect their trustworthiness.
We can only control ourselves so we never raise our hand to any female no matter what the reason, you can ALWAYS walk away, unless she is holding you there at gunpoint.
I agree with you to a point.

WE CAN ONLY CONTROL OURSELVES SO WE NEVER RAISE OUR HAND TO ANY FEMALE NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON.

My feeling regarding that statement is this,,,

If I caught some female weirdo ( although rare there are some out there) with my grand children, I would have NO problem raising my hand,,,if that is all I did she would be getting of light.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#100259 Feb 16, 2013
Levi wrote:
<quoted text>You're absolutely correct. And yes, we, the usofa, does need some form of gun control, within limits. We gun holders arent against that at all, but we know, once you give a government the right to take away certain rights, where will it stop? Answer--it wont stop, not until ALL your rights are cut away, little by little, slowly, and quietly. Thats all we gun owners have a problem with.
And that poster we are talking about, well, I think its pretty obvious why she/it/he wont respond, lmao.
How are you doing sairla, I love that name. It almost sounds indian (native american).
It is good to see someone with common sense rationalise the use of guns by acknowledging some change to limiting guns available to people who have some sort of mental issues or who are on medication or have bought from other sellers in bulk and are selling them on? There are some gaping holes in the system that have seen discrepancies, so the last thing anyone needs is more laws if the existing laws are failing or need altering to be more effective, too many wrong laws and not a few efficient laws just bogs down the beaurecratic process, and leads to those being effected by those laws becoming frustrated, so there is a need to find a delicate workable balance.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#100261 Feb 16, 2013
spider1954 wrote:
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I agree with you to a point.
WE CAN ONLY CONTROL OURSELVES SO WE NEVER RAISE OUR HAND TO ANY FEMALE NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON.
My feeling regarding that statement is this,,,
If I caught some female weirdo ( although rare there are some out there) with my grand children, I would have NO problem raising my hand,,,if that is all I did she would be getting of light.
If anyone harmed a child/grandchild etc it would bring out the beast in most of us, but as you say this is almost never a female crime, though there have been times when they have been an accomplice(to a male perpetrator) so I think the female of our species is relatively safe there.
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#100262 Feb 16, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Kind of like toilet paper. They have a use but not the same one twice. You don't need their advice on anything except how to cook cookies. The vast majority of advances in civilization was by men, the women just were along for the ride. The next time I need a place to wipe a bodily secretion I'll let you know till then get in the kitchen and make cookies.
How much do you want to bet that you Adore women? I'm getting that vibe.

Men/advances/civilization? Absolutely. They're awesome.

Cookies? How about the kind you buy from the refrigerated section and you put them in the oven to bake. That's about my speed? Oh, have you had Otis Spunklemeyer? spelling? Really good. Could eat 50 of them. They also go in the oven cold.

Anyway, yeah. You like women.
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#100263 Feb 16, 2013
spider1954 wrote:
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With both hands ;-)
Very funny. Keeping mum about the answer?
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#100264 Feb 16, 2013
spider1954 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you to a point.
WE CAN ONLY CONTROL OURSELVES SO WE NEVER RAISE OUR HAND TO ANY FEMALE NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON.
My feeling regarding that statement is this,,,
If I caught some female weirdo ( although rare there are some out there) with my grand children, I would have NO problem raising my hand,,,if that is all I did she would be getting of light.
Spider has grandchildren? I didn't know that. Aww, lucky you! How old are they?

Remember the red-headed guy from Penn State who saw the creep with the young boy in the showers? He did nothing. If that had been his son, do you think he would have beaten the guy to a pulp? Yep.

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