It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Empathica wrote:
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An M1 Abrams Main Battle tank has the same "basic" form as a Caterpillar D6 Bulldozer.
Other than they are both track driven...no they don't.
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Be careful people and pay attention to what is being said.They keep saying the 2nd Amendment is the right to bear arms and to live off the land.The 2nd Amendment wasn't for hunting food! It was during a time in which we could fight off a backlash of the Government and protect ourselves.Yes it is sad that we have had mass murders,but these things will happen with whatever weapon these people can find,swords,knives,bombs,chemi cals,cars,etc.
Slowly our rights are fading.We have lost the pledge of allegiance in schools,the American flag in schools,Gods name can only be used in various places.Think about it! If you look at the generation that is killing people,it's the generation that we took paddling out of school,Don't spank kids it's child abuse,Kids quit playing outside and started playing video games that aim at killing opponents.
How many kids do you see riding bikes,playing ball? How many kids are outside?less than half of what their use to be.So they want to know what to do? Stop telling us how to raise kids and concentrate on political problems.Don't blame my gun for your mistakes! Government wanted to step in and raise our kids,well guess what you failed.Go back to Washington and we will go back to raising our children and correcting them how we see fit,whether it's a paddle or belt or a pat on the back for a job well done.
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jaes wrote:
So the ship mechanic fires Tomahawk cruise missiles. What dose he need a 12ga 45cal and M14 for.
REPELL INVADERS!

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jaes wrote:
So the ship mechanic fires Tomahawk cruise missiles. What dose he need a 12ga 45cal and M14 for.
Nope, but I repaired the ships that did. And since you have now chosen to be intentionally obtuse, I am DONE with you. See ya, troll.
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I was taught how to properly handle firearms at a young age (8) by my father (which should be a prime responsibility of any parent with young kids). It was second nature by the time I joined the service at 19. The Navy owns the weapons I was trained on and carried. Service members do not get to keep the weapons they are issued.
On the subject of firearm handling at a young age. The main reason so many kids are killed with a firearm is because a lot of parents who own them tell their kids "don't you dare touch that". So what is the first thing kids want to do.......play with it. By teaching a young kid at an early age the proper way to handle a firearm and how dangerous they can be if not handled properly, you remove any mystique that firearm may hold. My son was taught as soon as he showed an interest, and I have the utmost confidence that he knows what to do around firearms, handling firearms, and especially if a friend of his decides to "play" with their parents gun.
You learned how to shoot a gun at eight? That just blows me away. I don't know......what to say.

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Empathica wrote:
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An aircraft is designed to contend with the aerodynamic realities of our atmosphere. Their "form", reflects that purpose.
The most practical "form" for an interstellar craft is the sphere.
--OBVIOUSLY
That "form" has already been selected.
--AGAIN
Form follows function.
A rifle is designed to contend with the physical realities of our bodies. Their "form", reflects that purpose.
The most practical "form" for a rifle is the pole. As in pole arms.
--OBVIOUSLY
That "form" has already been selected.
--AGAIN

Civilina rifles look like military rifles, and that form scares the piss out of ignorant liberals.

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Guppy wrote:
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You learned how to shoot a gun at eight? That just blows me away. I don't know......what to say.
Me and tony were running around in the mountains with our 22 rifles at 8. We started with bb guns at 7. We both learned gun handling and safety at 6.
Nobody ever got shot.

However, a whole shitpot full of critters did.

And snakes. Hundreds of snakes were slaughtered.

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Empathica wrote:
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"I work in design engineering"
--fixing the office copier doesn't qualify.
:)
An M1 Abrams Main Battle tank has the same "basic" form as a Caterpillar D6 Bulldozer.
--WITH
A few extra design characteristics, it's become something almost entirely slated for a different purpose.
--THE SAME
Can be said of tactically designed "Assault Weapons" with regard to tradition riffles.
It is what it is...
--KEEP
Telling yourself differently and even YOU may believe it...
Eventually
Tell you what, you bring your "assault rifle" and I will bring my assault rifle.

We can find out who has the big bad army gun.
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That is a lie. I did not even shoot at you.
Very funny. You have guns on the brain.
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Me and tony were running around in the mountains with our 22 rifles at 8. We started with bb guns at 7. We both learned gun handling and safety at 6.
Nobody ever got shot.
However, a whole shitpot full of critters did.
And snakes. Hundreds of snakes were slaughtered.
You and Tony were just babies with weapons. Shaking head.

I hate snakes.
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ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Well, like you keep saying, that is what they are made for.
I personally want to be able to be able to easily shoot anyone I think is trying to harm me or my family.
Pistols are real handy for that.
There is a possibility that the person you THOUGHT was going to harm you~wasn't going to, and you up and shot and killed him. You would be in big trouble.

You are a southerner?
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Dr Freud wrote:
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But that does not happen anymore. A ship is no longer in danger of boarding parties as they once were so we need to remove the small arms from those on ships. They may harm themselves or someone else. The anti-gun crowd say that unless there is a specific need then no one should have guns. Navy and Air Force personal should no longer need small arms. Support personal should not have guns. Officers should not have guns. State side personal should not have guns. Only those on the active battle line should be issued a gun and removed immediately upon leaving the battle area. You know I'm joking, right?
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Guppy wrote:
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There is a possibility that the person you THOUGHT was going to harm you~wasn't going to, and you up and shot and killed him. You would be in big trouble.
You are a southerner?
But it's probable they may be trying to harm you in which case NOT having a gun would be fatal to the person with a right to be there. Lesson- don't try to knock in doors that don't belong to you.
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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> But that does not happen anymore. A ship is no longer in danger of boarding parties as they once were so we need to remove the small arms from those on ships. They may harm themselves or someone else. The anti-gun crowd say that unless there is a specific need then no one should have guns. Navy and Air Force personal should no longer need small arms. Support personal should not have guns. Officers should not have guns. State side personal should not have guns. Only those on the active battle line should be issued a gun and removed immediately upon leaving the battle area. You know I'm joking, right?
"You know I'm joking, right?"

Yes, I realize: You're pulling my leg, my arm, and my hair (or what's remaining of that)!
In other words, you're fun'n (humoring) me!
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Join or renew your membership in the NRA.

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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> But that does not happen anymore. A ship is no longer in danger of boarding parties as they once were so we need to remove the small arms from those on ships. They may harm themselves or someone else. The anti-gun crowd say that unless there is a specific need then no one should have guns. Navy and Air Force personal should no longer need small arms. Support personal should not have guns. Officers should not have guns. State side personal should not have guns. Only those on the active battle line should be issued a gun and removed immediately upon leaving the battle area. You know I'm joking, right?
Lol, no doubt some of the whacko's that post here will think that's a great idea.
Some will even be disappointed they didn't think of it themselves :)

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ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Tell you what, you bring your "assault rifle" and I will bring my assault rifle.
We can find out who has the big bad army gun.
Your thoughts are...

Not concise

Incoherent

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Incomplete.

After all this time, you've finally reached a point of no return.

--TWO WORDS FOR YOU

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Lol, no doubt some of the whacko's that post here will think that's a great idea.
Some will even be disappointed they didn't think of it themselves :)
Darn! Wish I had thought of that. Sounds good to me.
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okimar wrote:
Join or renew your membership in the NRA.
Don't waste your money. I heard they are going to fold soon.

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ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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And they were killed on your altar of gun control.
Because insane people like you made sure that no one could stop the armed killers.
Because you insane peolpe think you can keep guns from armed killers.
No insane one, you can only disarm the people that can protect the children.
And after you have done that, and the children get slaughtered in your altar, you smile and say job well done.
Riddle me this dumbass, why did the killer in Norway pick an island where insane people like you made sure no one had a gun?
Now scurry away little rodent, I know that these kind of questions upset your insane little world.
I think if there is no way that criminals can be prevented from threatening schools, then it is reasonable that there are trained people within the school who can defend students with appropriate means - not necessarily teachers, the person/persons would need to be skilled and confident in the use of guns. Obviously it is a sad situation when this is considered necessary - but yes, it is also reality. Do you think there are any effective measures which could reduce the ability of the criminally minded to obtain weapons?

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