It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103330 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#95202 Jan 10, 2013
The last mass shooter in the UK had no assault style weapon nor high capacity magazines. Derrick Bird used a double barrel shotgun and a bolt action .22 rifle. He killed twelve and wounded eleven before committing suicide.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#95203 Jan 10, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Maybe they should have explained to him the school was a gun free zone.
Maybee if it wasnt he would have then just opened fire from under his car on the playground with the Bushmaster during recess.

He was a suicide. Fear of being shot was not in his reasoning. But he had access to weapons that allow him to formulate tactics.

Jared Loughner was in a CCW area. He was one. He had wrapped his ID in a plastic bag so he could be Identified. He was only stopped when he had to reload. And there was a CCW man in the vicinity. But a little old lady got him with her handbag. But not before he did some damage with his Glock 19.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#95204 Jan 10, 2013
jaes wrote:
I think planes needs to be ban I heard of one droping a nuke killing thousands and what the twin towers.
Have many of them foing that daily do you?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#95205 Jan 10, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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I can think of 20 sets of parents in Connecticut who wished their kid's teachers was armed.
Or that the shooter wasn't!
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#95206 Jan 10, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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Maybee if it wasnt he would have then just opened fire from under his car on the playground with the Bushmaster during recess.
He was a suicide. Fear of being shot was not in his reasoning. But he had access to weapons that allow him to formulate tactics.
Jared Loughner was in a CCW area. He was one. He had wrapped his ID in a plastic bag so he could be Identified. He was only stopped when he had to reload. And there was a CCW man in the vicinity. But a little old lady got him with her handbag. But not before he did some damage with his Glock 19.
Okay and exactly how would the proposed gun ban have stopped him?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#95207 Jan 10, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
The last mass shooter in the UK had no assault style weapon nor high capacity magazines. Derrick Bird used a double barrel shotgun and a bolt action .22 rifle. He killed twelve and wounded eleven before committing suicide.
So my call to ban all guns is definately the right one.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#95208 Jan 10, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Okay and exactly how would the proposed gun ban have stopped him?
Liscencing requirement from Local Police who had to accompany campus security to deliver a restraining order to stop him attending classes until he had had psyciatric assesment. His police record of marijuana use.

The ban on oversize magazines that had lapsed.

A cross link background check database to campus security. You may have noticed this recomendation in the article this thread is based on after Virginia Tech.

In Colorado The Joker had also had a security report fromt he campus psycolgist to Campus Security.

All without imposing a ban on Glock military designed pistols or AR15,s etc...
GoGoBar

Thailand

#95209 Jan 10, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Okay and exactly how would the proposed gun ban have stopped him?
If you mean Lanza, there is not that much data to go on.
Glaringly would be the safe storage of firearms by the owner to the exclusion of unlicenced persons.

Oh, they have those laws.

Just seems that Legal Gun Owners dont follow laws either.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#95211 Jan 10, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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So my call to ban all guns is definately the right one.
True. It is the guns.
Deport Fat Women

Perth, Australia

#95212 Jan 10, 2013
Why do you people spend time here arguing with two fat ugly single mothers on welfare about anything ?
Why do you care what their opinions are ?
Their not even from the US, their Australian. Nobody cares what the fat turds have to say here so why should you care in the USA ? although I'm sure nobody would care if you take ahomona to the USA.. take her whole fat welfare dependant family. You would be doing the country a service.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#95213 Jan 10, 2013
jaes wrote:
911 planes killed thousands and they didn't even have a gun.
Yeah...well how many of them do you get daily?

I believe death by gun shot would have surpassed the deaths in that tragedy eh! Oh, and gun deaths are an on going tragedy.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#95214 Jan 10, 2013
Deport Fat Women wrote:
Why do you people spend time here arguing with two fat ugly single mothers on welfare about anything ?
Why do you care what their opinions are ?
Their not even from the US, their Australian. Nobody cares what the fat turds have to say here so why should you care in the USA ? although I'm sure nobody would care if you take ahomona to the USA.. take her whole fat welfare dependant family. You would be doing the country a service.
Says the troll...

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#95215 Jan 11, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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So my call to ban all guns is definately the right one.
In your delusional world it might be.
In the real world, which it seems you know little about, all you'll do is see to it that only criminals have guns.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#95216 Jan 11, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
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In your delusional world it might be.
In the real world, which it seems you know little about, all you'll do is see to it that only criminals have guns.
Crap off, there are way more guns in the hands of law abiders....and they are going nuts. Not you, you are already a space cadet.
Me Good Me Tony Abbott

Perth, Australia

#95217 Jan 11, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Crap off, there are way more guns in the hands of law abiders....and they are going nuts. Not you, you are already a space cadet.
You can't do anything about it you fat mongoloid breeder of more fat parasites.
USA won't listen to obese welfare cheats from Australia.
Your opinion means nothing to anyone.
Why don't you go on today tonight with the other fat ugly white trash single mothers.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#95218 Jan 11, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Crap off, there are way more guns in the hands of law abiders....and they are going nuts. Not you, you are already a space cadet.
Fool, someone who steals a gun or guns then goes & shoots people is not a law abider.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#95219 Jan 11, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Crap off, there are way more guns in the hands of law abiders....and they are going nuts. Not you, you are already a space cadet.
I am a gun owner. I live in a country where freedom is important. I live in a country where innovative and free thinking is encouraged. I live where the people have excelled every country in the history of mankind. One envious person on the other side of the world would be a fool to even think they could change that.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#95220 Jan 11, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Crap off, there are way more guns in the hands of law abiders....and they are going nuts. Not you, you are already a space cadet.
We are space cadets because we have been to the moon and you can't. We are the most powerful superpower the world has ever known, and your not. That makes you a third world country compared to us.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#95221 Jan 11, 2013
Chinelean wrote:
<quoted text>I hear darwin is full of abo's, careful he doesnt get his wallet stolen up there
Lol. He's temporarily posted there, on standby, for what? I haven't a clue, he can't tell me. He couldn't even come home for Christmas. Either the shite will hit the fan in Afghanistan or the Yanks will have an 'uprising' and their Govt will need backup from us 'stupid' Aussies, my 2 guesses anyway... But I could be wrong and often am. Yeah, he says there are lots of Natives there. I've never been.
;)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#95222 Jan 11, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>No all posts go through this and then get back on track...it does depend on the ammount of trolls..trolling though...
Oh ok, I must be traumatised by f ing trolls...

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