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Gottaliv

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#101
Jun 18, 2008
 
wallbyedward: "Ho hum, more sensationalism, no solutions. Give me LEGAL SOLUTIONS, not emotive rants"
Ok - you want legal then this is my solution...rational, unemotional and serious.
Bring back the DEATH PENALTY and hang the suckers.
That equals Unemotional.
If an innocent person manages to get hanged as well, then that's just too bad.
That equals Rational.
The Governments good on sacrificing some for the greater good of all - it's called collateral damage. Would that bother a parsimonious prick like you?
That equals serious. Seriously!!!
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#102
Jun 18, 2008
 
Anyone who makes excuses for such people, as well as the Bill Henson's of the world, to me is automatically suspect by default for secretly supproting such behaviours.
Rex

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#103
Jun 18, 2008
 

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TWO young killers who could be paroled within weeks will remain anonymous once they walk free. And the public is entitled to ask why.
The Herald Sun fought an unsuccessful Supreme Court battle to lift an order banning the publication of their identities.
Frail Marie Greening Zidan died a brutal death at the hands of the two thugs, then aged 15 and 16, in her own home.
The pair sexually assaulted, bashed and strangled the 73-year-old as her handicapped son watched on in horror.
The justice system places a very high value on the rehabilitation of child offenders and anonymity is part of that process.
But the killing of Mrs Zidan is an exceptional case for a number of reasons.
Her two killers, now aged 21 and 22, never acknowledged what they did, have never apologised or shown a shred of remorse.
Mrs Zidan was murdered but because the killers blamed each other, a legal quirk allowed them to plead guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter.
While in custody they taunted and threatened Mrs Zidan's family, one of them threatened his jailers and they have generally been unco-operative and unruly.
Her grieving daughter, Janine Greening, said public safety should take precedence over the rights of killers, however young.
Ms Greening is absolutely correct.

This is why people should support the petition.
Rex

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#104
Jun 18, 2008
 
You will note the..SEXUALLY ASSUALTED part won't you wallbyedward.
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#105
Jun 18, 2008
 
too much baked beans and soda water
Rex

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#106
Jun 18, 2008
 
SUPERIOR AUSSIE,

I found this link that i think you might find interesting....

http://www.mako.org.au/makoniti.html

Let know?

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#107
Jun 18, 2008
 
That is a good page, Thanks Rex.
Gottaliv

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#108
Jun 18, 2008
 
This is it wrote:
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Yes something must be done, I believe that things can be done, and there must be a reason why they are not. Just like drugs on the streets, that can be stopped if they really wanted to. The fact that Bill Henson has been let off seems to me that the underground paedophile lobby has some influence. What a mess, what do you think Gottaliv, is it that bad or am I being to critical?
No This is it, you can never be too critical when dealing with the abuse of children though I reserve my judgement on Bill Henson, the Art World being very different to the one I live in - I find his paintings of young nude children distasteful in the climate of today's morals. And who's to say the famous old artists from way back weren't just dirty old men in disguise anyway? But only Bill Henson knows his real intentions and yes, many things could be done.

There are too many considerations within the law for a cut and dried solution to Paedophilia. I personally don't think the underground Paedophile lobby has any influence as such, except may-be within the Catholic church, and knowing what I know on the subject, it'll be a cold day in hell when a solution is found that satifies the criteria for a suitable punishment. The Government will never make a decision that would make them liable for their actions. But if they did actually by some miracle do that, then they'd just pass a Bill that exonerated them from any liability. This is such a volatile subject they tread very carefully.

I asked somebody I met many years ago, did he think, from a male point of view, that Paedophiles could be rehabilitated.

This man was an abusive alcoholic, had been known to beat up on his women, a control freak and not very nice to know when he was drinking. Sober he was a very gentle man, totally different. His answer drunk and sober was short and sweet "No mate, it's IN them." Moralistic observation for one such as he??? Probably, but I believe he told it as it is.
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#109
Jun 18, 2008
 
Mark Anthony Jewell is a paedophile already released.

For more information on this particular offender click on link.

http://www.mako.org.au/tempjewell.html

Have to lobby the government with petitions when the courts sentences are ridiculous.
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#110
Jun 18, 2008
 
Rex wrote:
Mark Anthony Jewell is a paedophile already released.
For more information on this particular offender click on link.
http://www.mako.org.au/tempjewell.html
Have to lobby the government with petitions when the courts sentences are ridiculous.
"If released he would continue to add more innocent women and children to his list of victims," Dr Senadipathy said.

Sentenced 30-4-2003 to 5 yrs jail - He is due for release on June 6/2008. This is his FOURTH jail sentence.

Laughable!!!!! Electronic tag or micro-chip him.
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#111
Jun 18, 2008
 
Read how convicted paedophlie Andrew Robert Manners wanted to have an apoloy for being unearthed working at a childrens dance school.

For more information on this please follow the link.

http://www.mako.org.au/tempmanners1.html

I believe QLD and NSW concerned parents would find this interesting.

This is why the petition should be signed people.
Rex

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#112
Jun 18, 2008
 
Someone better stop me soon before i post all the bastards names here.........
Rex

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#113
Jun 18, 2008
 
The courts won't do it, i bloody well will!!!!!!
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#114
Jun 18, 2008
 
Gottaliv wrote:
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No This is it, you can never be too critical when dealing with the abuse of children though I reserve my judgement on Bill Henson, the Art World being very different to the one I live in - I find his paintings of young nude children distasteful in the climate of today's morals. And who's to say the famous old artists from way back weren't just dirty old men in disguise anyway? But only Bill Henson knows his real intentions and yes, many things could be done.
There are too many considerations within the law for a cut and dried solution to Paedophilia. I personally don't think the underground Paedophile lobby has any influence as such, except may-be within the Catholic church, and knowing what I know on the subject, it'll be a cold day in hell when a solution is found that satifies the criteria for a suitable punishment. The Government will never make a decision that would make them liable for their actions. But if they did actually by some miracle do that, then they'd just pass a Bill that exonerated them from any liability. This is such a volatile subject they tread very carefully.
I asked somebody I met many years ago, did he think, from a male point of view, that Paedophiles could be rehabilitated.
This man was an abusive alcoholic, had been known to beat up on his women, a control freak and not very nice to know when he was drinking. Sober he was a very gentle man, totally different. His answer drunk and sober was short and sweet "No mate, it's IN them." Moralistic observation for one such as he??? Probably, but I believe he told it as it is.
I do not know much about this subject, you seem to know a heck of a lot, I assume you worked as a social worker or something, ex-cop maybe? My gut feel just tells me that most paedophiles do not rehabilitate. But I do also believe that it is not impossible to rehabilitate, just extremely rare. I say this from the perspective of having faith in the human spirit. But of course if someone needs to be locked up for their natural life, than so be it.

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Jun 18, 2008
 

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Gottaliv wrote:
wallbyedward: "Ho hum, more sensationalism, no solutions. Give me LEGAL SOLUTIONS, not emotive rants"
Ok - you want legal then this is my solution...rational, unemotional and serious.
Bring back the DEATH PENALTY and hang the suckers.
That equals Unemotional.
If an innocent person manages to get hanged as well, then that's just too bad.
That equals Rational.
The Governments good on sacrificing some for the greater good of all - it's called collateral damage. Would that bother a parsimonious prick like you?
That equals serious. Seriously!!!
Still emotive, no real solutions, way too broad, and far too stupid.

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#116
Jun 18, 2008
 
Rex wrote:
You will note the..SEXUALLY ASSUALTED part won't you wallbyedward.
Listen you frigging idiot, I know these crimes occur, but they're all different.

You twits just won't try to deal with these situations realistically, within the law.

That's because you have nothing but emotive bullshit to offer.

I've repeatedly asked for someone to tell me what kind of a scale you intend to use, I've given examples, and not once has any of you ever specifically answered.

Once again, don't bore me with all kinds of bloody stories about horrific crimes, I'm old enough to know all about what goes on, what I want is for you potential vigilante's to show me why I should trust you with what you want me to sign for.
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#117
Jun 18, 2008
 
baked beans again
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#118
Jun 18, 2008
 
Hopefully this sick paedophile does not get parole and dies in prison

Read link for why the petition should be signed.

http://www.mako.org.au/newsart527.html

PLEASE NOTE THE PATHETIC SENTENCES HE RECEIVED.

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#119
Jun 18, 2008
 
Rex wrote:
The courts won't do it, i bloody well will!!!!!!
Tell me this Rexy boy, what the hell good will it do to post these blokes names?

Will you be paying them a visit?

Will you be going after them and taking the law into your own hands?

There's nothing you can do about them within the law, which is why all this crap in here is a total waste of time.

I notice I'm being targeted as if I'm supporting these sick bastards, but this is where all of you just don't get it.

What I'm doing is pointing out how useless it will be to know who they are, and where they live, as far as what you will be able to do about it within the law.

I'm being responsible.

The fact is, everyone of your streets is probably housing at least one of them anyway.

I will not be responsible for encouraging people to take the law into their own hands.

A man was killed the other day when a so called hero like you blokes want to be, rushed up to him and punched him so hard, he died instantly.

Sadly, it was later discovered by the idiot who hit the man, the deceased man wasn't the person he thought he was.

Apparently he was just a father of two kids, picking up some shopping for his wife.

This is what will happen when people who really don't know what they're doing, take the law into their own hands.

You'll do more damage to innocent families than the Pedo's you were after.

Stop the crap, put up some constructive well thought out ideas, or shut up.
Gottaliv

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#120
Jun 18, 2008
 
Rex wrote:
Someone better stop me soon before i post all the bastards names here.........
I already posted this in the Shit Loads of Peds in Queensland thread Rex.
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This sort of puts a lie to the title of this thread. Only 3 listed for Queensland, the majority being in Victoria.

http://www.mako.org.au/makoniti.html

COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION in Australia- You Should Be Notified

Below- Some Of MAKO's "Notifications"

* Mark Freinick, Claremont, Tas.(July 2004).
* SafeCare, Fremantle, W.A (7-2004).
* Peter Thompson, Castlemaine, Vic.(1-6-1998).
* Desmond Leslie Paterson, Bendigo, Vic.(1998).
* Phillip Corlett (Teare) Cryer, Adelaide.(1998)- Re-offended
* Andrew Ball, Bendigo, Vic.(1998)
* Ian Lawrence Collins (1998)
* Donald Leslie Rheese, Melbourne, Vic.(1998)
* Clinton Bruce Kirkbride, Bendigo, Vic.(1998)- Reoffended
* Peter Allen Jensz and Noel Weaver,
Haywood, Vic.(1998)
* Luke Paul Frank Moertel QLD (2000)
* Kenneth Briggs VIC.(1998)
* Justin John Peter Butler QLD (Jan-2000)
* Russell John Cornish QLD (Feb-2000)
* Edward Clarence Smith SA (Jan- 1999)
* Phillip Martin Lawrence Briscoe SA (July- 1999)
* Gavin Shawn Schuster (1998)
* Allan Buxton Wright (Jan- 1999)
* Desmond Clift (1999)
* Christopher D'Astoli (August- 1999)
* Elio Francis Macauda VIC (6-9-1998)
* Peter Scott Blencowe VIC (Feb- 1999)
* Kenneth Donald Lowe (VIC- 1998)
* Kenneth Leslie Tresize
* Father Graham Redfern VIC (1999)
* Mark Anthony Jackson VIC (August- 1999)
* Kenneth William Glenncross (Deceased) SA
* Robert Kingsley Hawkes SA (Feb- 2000)- Re-offended
* John Rowan Shea VIC (Nov- 1998)
* Keith Webb Wright QLD (March- 2000)
* Ian William Marshall VIC (4-10-1991)
* Lambert Ariens VIC (Feb- 1999)
* Stanley Brown WA (August- 2003)
* Mark Christopher Dean

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