holden or ford?

Created by punka9er on Oct 5, 2007

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ford

Since: Apr 07

TERRA AUSTRALIS

#21 Nov 9, 2007
Groucho AKA Falcon 68 wrote:
<quoted text>I've had several friends in OZ send me E-mails about it...and a couple pix!!
Yep, I like the OZ Falcon... We stopped building Falcons in 1970. I've owned 3 Falcons so far, The one I own now Aussie petrol heads refer to as a XT. Try this...
http://www.trueblueford.com/Marks68Coupe.html
My little bro had that same model Canadian Falcon Coupe. He lives on the Sunshine Coast here in OZ. He ended up putting an XR grill on it and somehow made some XR tail lights fit it. Then a coat of electric blue paint, some white walls, the standard rims with caps and away it went left hand drive and all.302 Windsor I believe. It looked very easy on the eye after that I must say. Very nice unique car.

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#22 Nov 9, 2007
high rises on the range wrote:
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My little bro had that same model Canadian Falcon Coupe. He lives on the Sunshine Coast here in OZ. He ended up putting an XR grill on it and somehow made some XR tail lights fit it. Then a coat of electric blue paint, some white walls, the standard rims with caps and away it went left hand drive and all.302 Windsor I believe. It looked very easy on the eye after that I must say. Very nice unique car.
I know that car...it's a 67 model year. Actually, I believe he put a XT GT grille into it...It would just screw right in...Canadian, eh? Then it was built in the same plant my Falcon was! The bloke put a set of minilite wheels on it...He also owns a XW 351 station wagon signed by Allan Moffet. He sent me some pix after seeing my Falcon in Eddie Ford's Restored Cars magazine!

“really bored”

Since: Sep 07

Tassie, Australia

#23 Nov 9, 2007
high rises is back yay

“HOLD FAST”

Since: Apr 07

Perth

#24 Nov 9, 2007
I have always had a thing for the E-49 dont really no why

Since: Dec 06

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#25 Nov 9, 2007
Ben The Aussie Oi Oi Oi wrote:
I have always had a thing for the E-49 dont really no why
Maybe because it's one of the coolest cars ever to be put on the planet???

Since: Apr 07

TERRA AUSTRALIS

#26 Nov 9, 2007
Hey Punka9r. Good to be back. Friggin IT blokes took a month to clean all the porn out of me laptop!
Groucho AKA Falcon 68 wrote:
<quoted text>I know that car...it's a 67 model year. Actually, I believe he put a XT GT grille into it...It would just screw right in...Canadian, eh? Then it was built in the same plant my Falcon was! The bloke put a set of minilite wheels on it...He also owns a XW 351 station wagon signed by Allan Moffet. He sent me some pix after seeing my Falcon in Eddie Ford's Restored Cars magazine!
Hmmm interesting. I am pretty sure he put an XR grill in it. But anything is possible since I last saw the car. If the car on your avatar at the mo is the car, I don't think it's quite same colour, but light does strange things. It had a black interior.
That XW wagon would be worth a few bob I'd imagine. Wouldn't even venture to speculate. You've seen that XW GT Surferoo ute? My Old man's cousin has been tryin to sell that for about 10 friggin years. I bet he's got a pretty penny on it now.

I concur on the E49. A real piece of hot metal!

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#27 Nov 9, 2007
high rises on the range wrote:
Hey Punka9r. Good to be back. Friggin IT blokes took a month to clean all the porn out of me laptop!
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Hmmm interesting. I am pretty sure he put an XR grill in it. But anything is possible since I last saw the car. If the car on your avatar at the mo is the car, I don't think it's quite same colour, but light does strange things. It had a black interior.
That XW wagon would be worth a few bob I'd imagine. Wouldn't even venture to speculate. You've seen that XW GT Surferoo ute? My Old man's cousin has been tryin to sell that for about 10 friggin years. I bet he's got a pretty penny on it now.
I concur on the E49. A real piece of hot metal!
Well, at the least it's quite possible the car none the less. This car wore the original turquoise paintwork, and powered by a 289. There can't be THAT many blue 2-door Falcons in OZ of that era... Does anyone know what happened to the XR coupe Bob Bourke (pres of OZ Ford at the time)had built?? I've heard that car had a 428 in it...

Since: Apr 07

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#28 Nov 10, 2007
Groucho AKA Falcon 68 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, at the least it's quite possible the car none the less. This car wore the original turquoise paintwork, and powered by a 289. There can't be THAT many blue 2-door Falcons in OZ of that era... Does anyone know what happened to the XR coupe Bob Bourke (pres of OZ Ford at the time)had built?? I've heard that car had a 428 in it...
I have a very old Super Fords Mag, issue #2. It featured Bob Burke's XW GT with the 428 Cobrajet in it. It was a sedan though. Jade green I think. That's the only thing like that I've heard of.

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#29 Nov 10, 2007
high rises on the range wrote:
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I have a very old Super Fords Mag, issue #2. It featured Bob Burke's XW GT with the 428 Cobrajet in it. It was a sedan though. Jade green I think. That's the only thing like that I've heard of.
The pix I seen are in Norm Darwin's "History of Ford in Australia"... And it is definitely a 2-door coupe. It was stated that he imported a coupe bodyshell. The pix show it as a XR at first, with 1966 Mustang GT wheels, then modified to look like a XT... Definitely wasn't a XW. Pix are in black and white, so I don't know what colour it was...
Ho Ho Ho

Adelaide, Australia

#30 Nov 11, 2007
Aussie Muscle, scouring the global parts bins and coming up with something special.(european handling with detroit muscle)

Groucho on the XT coupe concept car it previewed at one of our motor shows in Aus in 68 or 69 not sure. Ultimately it previewed the features to a degree of the 69 and 70 XW,XY GT's, eg XW stripes, XY shaker scoop, XA bucket seats.

Apparently the 428 motor in it with shaker ended up in Bourke's famous big block XW. The coupes colour was Zircon Green (like British racing green but more gold and with a little metallic, stripe was gold).

It was costed but found to be to expensive. Ford could only use it for a year as the XW and Xy's were on the way, new square tailights no longer round as had been used by ford for many years meant changing the coupe into a more modern version meant big costs and re-tooling.

It also wouldn't have competed with Holdens breathtaking pillarless Monaro as it was deemed to old even by then, remebering it was out in Nth America for several years by then.

I hope this helps,

KEEP ON CRUISIN...

Since: Dec 06

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#31 Nov 12, 2007
Ho Ho Ho wrote:
Aussie Muscle, scouring the global parts bins and coming up with something special.(european handling with detroit muscle)
Groucho on the XT coupe concept car it previewed at one of our motor shows in Aus in 68 or 69 not sure. Ultimately it previewed the features to a degree of the 69 and 70 XW,XY GT's, eg XW stripes, XY shaker scoop, XA bucket seats.
Apparently the 428 motor in it with shaker ended up in Bourke's famous big block XW. The coupes colour was Zircon Green (like British racing green but more gold and with a little metallic, stripe was gold).
It was costed but found to be to expensive. Ford could only use it for a year as the XW and Xy's were on the way, new square tailights no longer round as had been used by ford for many years meant changing the coupe into a more modern version meant big costs and re-tooling.
It also wouldn't have competed with Holdens breathtaking pillarless Monaro as it was deemed to old even by then, remebering it was out in Nth America for several years by then.
I hope this helps,
KEEP ON CRUISIN...
In the states, the Falcon was already doomed shortly after the 1966 restyle (the OZ XR Falcon.) Sales were down to 70,000 in 1967. Ford said no to any more development work here stateside. Of course, this sent Ford in OZ scrambling to develop an all Aussie Falcon, since the brand was the top seller in the Ford OZ lineup. The Falcon and the Fairlane shared many mechanical, chassis, and more than a few sheetmetal components.(In the U.S., the Falcon and Fairlane station wagons shared the same bodyshell.) The 66-67 Fairlane 2-door sedan shared the same roof with the Falcon coupes. Ford in OZ could have built a XW Falcon coupe, the change in sheetmetal wouldn't have cost THAT much (look at the XM-XP Falcon compared to the XK-XL). My '68 Falcon (In fact all U.S. Falcons from 68 to early 1970) has a squared off taillight. The rear quarter was revamped, and a die cast taillight housing is bolted in place. But, yeah, the problem still was that it was a coupe, and not a hardtop...The HK Monaro was a true hardtop. In the U.S., the Fairlane was offered as a hardtop, but that roof would have been a bit too lenghty to use on the Falcon with it's 110 inch wheelbase, compared to the Fairlane's 116 wheelbase. It would have made the Falcon look like a fastback, but with an even shorter bootlid.

What puzzles me is, that I've read that the ZA Fairlane was built off the XR Falcon platform. Actually, these 2 cars were built off the same platform as intended by Ford in Dearborn. The XA Fairlane utilized the U.S. 1966 Fairlane sedan bodyshell, but used the XR Falcon front sheetmetal.(It just bolted right up, the way Dearborn intended it to.) To me, the XC-XD Fairlane looked even more like the U.S. 66 Fairlane, with the simple peaked bonnet and stacked headlights...

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#32 Nov 12, 2007
That should be ZA Fairlane...

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#33 Nov 29, 2007
....bump....

Yee ha!!
Chris

Mount Waverley, Australia

#34 Dec 28, 2007
a bike

Since: Apr 07

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#35 Dec 31, 2007
Malvern Star?

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#36 Dec 31, 2007
high rises on the range wrote:
Malvern Star?
Schwinn Apple Crate??

Since: Apr 07

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#37 Dec 31, 2007
Groucho AKA Falcon 68 wrote:
<quoted text>Schwinn Apple Crate??
With a 48cc Ebay 2 stroke frame motor. lol

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#38 Dec 31, 2007
high rises on the range wrote:
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With a 48cc Ebay 2 stroke frame motor. lol
Maybe going down hill with the wind behind you...

Since: Apr 07

TERRA AUSTRALIS

#39 Jan 1, 2008
Groucho AKA Falcon 68 wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe going down hill with the wind behind you...
I put a 70cc on my mountain bike. It doesn't haul arse...lol

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#40 Jan 2, 2008
high rises on the range wrote:
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I put a 70cc on my mountain bike. It doesn't haul arse...lol
Not even yours????

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