Snakes Vs Cane Toads
Mel

Alderley, Australia

#1 Dec 14, 2012
The Two worst vermon are at war with each other. Cane toads are infiltrating snake territory and the snake sees the Cane toad as a tasty meal and that is the dead end for the snake, and the snake population in the south east corner of Queensland is slowly dwindling thanks to the cane toad which of course is vermon too, but the cane toad breeds far quicker than the snake and comes back as back up and ends up a tasty but deadly meal for the snake. We have brain dead so called environmentalists out there who see snakes as a protected species thus catching snakes of all kinds and letting them loose again. Snakes in my view are in the same catargory as rats and wild cats, they feed on small animals, and raid bird nests and bite and kill people, yet we have nut jobs out there trying to protect them. My view the only good snake is a dead one, the good/bad cane toat is sorting them out big time. Thanks Mr Cane Toad, but I'll still kill u.
levi

United States

#2 Dec 14, 2012
Are the cane toads in your country the same kind we have here in the states?
TheRealDeal

Australia

#3 Dec 14, 2012
Mel wrote:
The Two worst vermon are at war with each other. Cane toads are infiltrating snake territory and the snake sees the Cane toad as a tasty meal and that is the dead end for the snake, and the snake population in the south east corner of Queensland is slowly dwindling thanks to the cane toad which of course is vermon too, but the cane toad breeds far quicker than the snake and comes back as back up and ends up a tasty but deadly meal for the snake. We have brain dead so called environmentalists out there who see snakes as a protected species thus catching snakes of all kinds and letting them loose again. Snakes in my view are in the same catargory as rats and wild cats, they feed on small animals, and raid bird nests and bite and kill people, yet we have nut jobs out there trying to protect them. My view the only good snake is a dead one, the good/bad cane toat is sorting them out big time. Thanks Mr Cane Toad, but I'll still kill u.
Lived in the Gold Coast hinterland in 1970s on a farm! Cane toads were in plagues because of floods and wet climate. Cane Toads absolutely wiped out the snake population which never recovered from. Cane Toads are a serious threat to snakes where ever they invade. However during the drought years Cane Toads are less active and the snake population increases.

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#4 Dec 14, 2012
I think snakes are also learning not to eat cane toads.
We've had 3 good seasons in a row in western Queensland & there have been millions toads around, there have also been a lot of snakes around.

When I was working up in the gulf country in the early 90's locals said the snake population was decimated when the toads arrived, over time the toad population never changed much but the snake population increased slowly again.

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#5 Dec 14, 2012
levi wrote:
Are the cane toads in your country the same kind we have here in the states?
Possibly, these ones they are - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toad
Native to Central & South America.
levi

United States

#6 Dec 14, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
I think snakes are also learning not to eat cane toads.
We've had 3 good seasons in a row in western Queensland & there have been millions toads around, there have also been a lot of snakes around.
When I was working up in the gulf country in the early 90's locals said the snake population was decimated when the toads arrived, over time the toad population never changed much but the snake population increased slowly again.
Maybe the snakes are evolveing, changeing so that they can eat these toads. We have them here in the deep south, but for some reason our reptiles arent affected.
I'd bet that in time your reptiles will adapt, and then get fat. LOL

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#7 Dec 14, 2012
levi wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe the snakes are evolveing, changeing so that they can eat these toads. We have them here in the deep south, but for some reason our reptiles arent affected.
I'd bet that in time your reptiles will adapt, and then get fat. LOL
Yeah you could be right about that.
I know the Keelback (one of our non-venomous snakes) & one species of turtle can handle low levels of their toxons & can eat the poisonous tadpoles & small toads.
Herons, Crows/Ravens & Kites flip them over & eat them from the underside, leaving the poison glands on their shoulders untouched.
Some species of native rats & salt water crocs have also adapted to be able to consume them apparently.
Even our predatory meat ants get stuck into them & seem unaffected.
levi

United States

#8 Dec 14, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
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Yeah you could be right about that.
I know the Keelback (one of our non-venomous snakes) & one species of turtle can handle low levels of their toxons & can eat the poisonous tadpoles & small toads.
Herons, Crows/Ravens & Kites flip them over & eat them from the underside, leaving the poison glands on their shoulders untouched.
Some species of native rats & salt water crocs have also adapted to be able to consume them apparently.
Even our predatory meat ants get stuck into them & seem unaffected.
Good, maybe nature itself is handleing the problem, that is, if man dont put his two cents in and try to help out.
Maybe everything will work out, hate to see your ego system screwed up. Weren't those toads imported anyway for some reason?
When will man learn to leave nature alone.

We are haveing problems here in the deep south also, fire ants are a big problem, and now the killer bees are attacking our native honey bees.
Also we are haveing problems with non native snakes. Idiots are getting them illegally then releaseing them when they get tired of them. Snakes like phytons, boas, some exotic lizzards, even cobras.
Did you happen to see the special on national geographic about this problem? The showed where one phython swallowed a half grown gator. these animals have no natural predators here, so they are having themselves a ball. I dont know what the punishment is for bringing all these illegal animals in but in my opinion it cant be harsh enough.
I gator hunt ocassionally, havent been this year, but so far it hasnt effected our gator population where Iam at.

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#9 Dec 14, 2012
levi wrote:
<quoted text>Good, maybe nature itself is handleing the problem, that is, if man dont put his two cents in and try to help out.
Maybe everything will work out, hate to see your ego system screwed up. Weren't those toads imported anyway for some reason?
When will man learn to leave nature alone.
We are haveing problems here in the deep south also, fire ants are a big problem, and now the killer bees are attacking our native honey bees.
Also we are haveing problems with non native snakes. Idiots are getting them illegally then releaseing them when they get tired of them. Snakes like phytons, boas, some exotic lizzards, even cobras.
Did you happen to see the special on national geographic about this problem? The showed where one phython swallowed a half grown gator. these animals have no natural predators here, so they are having themselves a ball. I dont know what the punishment is for bringing all these illegal animals in but in my opinion it cant be harsh enough.
I gator hunt ocassionally, havent been this year, but so far it hasnt effected our gator population where Iam at.
Toads were originally imported & released to try combat the cane beetle attacking sugar cane crops in Queensland.
Seems they liked the Australian ecosystem a lot better & ate everything but the cane beetle.
I think they started from an initial release of about 100, imported from Hawaii in the 1930's, now there are billions.
In areas they're in practically anything that feeds on frogs or tadpoles was initially greatly reduced in numbers, things are changing slowly though, some species are adapting & learning & doing ok again, some are not.

Interesting about the fire ants & bees, we've been having similar problems here.
There was an outbreak of fire ants around Brisbane (I think) a couple of years ago.
A lot of effort & rescources was put into getting rid of them, I don't know if they were successful or not, haven't heard much about it lately.
Similar story with the bees, one of the Asian species was wiping out the others, causing problems, haven't heard anymore on that for a while either.

No, missed the NG show but I'd say we have similar problems here with human stupidity introducing non-native animals into the wild after they get sick of them as pets etc.

All our native flora & fauna is protected, pretty hefty fines for being caught taking it without the correct permits etc..
Feral pigs, goats, foxes, cats, cane toads etc. are open go though, no permit needed to thin their populations out
All you need is the required weapons license & permission to access to private land to get them.
Jill

Chermside, Australia

#10 Jan 3, 2013
I used to take my dog for a walk in the large local park, and due to the number of red belly black snakes I stopped, then I was told by a local that the park was infested with small cane toads and that there were dead snakes everywhere. I now take mt dog for a walk in the same park all the snakes are gone..GOD BLESS THE CANE TOAD. The only good snake is a dead one.
Jill

Chermside, Australia

#11 Jan 3, 2013
SNAKES ARE VERMON.

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#12 Jan 3, 2013
Jill wrote:
I used to take my dog for a walk in the large local park, and due to the number of red belly black snakes I stopped, then I was told by a local that the park was infested with small cane toads and that there were dead snakes everywhere. I now take mt dog for a walk in the same park all the snakes are gone..GOD BLESS THE CANE TOAD. The only good snake is a dead one.
Idiot, the red bellied black is a native animal, the cane toad is not.
Perhaps your dog will be poisoned by cane toad venom, wouldn't that be ironic?
Jack

Chermside, Australia

#13 Jan 3, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
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Idiot, the red bellied black is a native animal, the cane toad is not.
Perhaps your dog will be poisoned by cane toad venom, wouldn't that be ironic?
Here we go a brain dead snake lover. Dogs don't eat cane toads --Brain Dead--Snakes do...Good and the cane toad is doing a all mighty job in and around Brisbane. Snakes are vermon they raid small bird nests and kill genuine native animals. Wake up stupid. Snakes are not representive of anything good...Period.

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#14 Jan 3, 2013
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we go a brain dead snake lover. Dogs don't eat cane toads --Brain Dead--Snakes do...Good and the cane toad is doing a all mighty job in and around Brisbane. Snakes are vermon they raid small bird nests and kill genuine native animals. Wake up stupid. Snakes are not representive of anything good...Period.
Guess what moron?- dogs do eat cane toads.
Guess what moron?- if a dog eats a toad it can kill the dog.
Guess what moron?- snakes are 'genuine' native animals, if they eat birds it's called 'nature'.

Only a complete retard would think cane toads are a good thing for the environment.
travis

Australia

#15 Jan 3, 2013
Kill the cane toads when ever you see them, they are Australias worst pest, and an imported pest too another foreigner destroying parts of australia, theme sounds familiar?
aussie

Australia

#16 Jan 3, 2013
Jack wrote:
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Here we go a brain dead snake lover. Dogs don't eat cane toads --Brain Dead--Snakes do...Good and the cane toad is doing a all mighty job in and around Brisbane. Snakes are vermon they raid small bird nests and kill genuine native animals. Wake up stupid. Snakes are not representive of anything good...Period.
your an idiot. cane toads are the worst imported menace in australias history.
and the rabbit pest ,snakes helped reduce them as well as eagles.
If not for snakes there would be a plague of mice and rats,
they also represent a form of natural defence from any invaders from the north, and are among the oldest australian species, snakes have been in australia far longer than aborigines even

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