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Law proposal claims Sturt's Desert Pea as dangerous as marijuana

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#1 Mar 19, 2011
Law proposal claims Sturt's Desert Pea as dangerous as marijuana
By David Nankervis From: Sunday Mail (SA) March 19, 2011 10:41pm

SOUTH Australia's floral emblem - Sturt's Desert Pea - will join marijuana on a banned list of plants under a proposed change to a Federal Government law.

Several species of wattle - the national floral emblem - and many other popular plants such as wisteria and ornamental cacti would also be included on the List of Controlled Plants because they contain traces of naturally occurring drugs, according to a document released by the Attorney-General's Department.

Law experts and the nursery industry say the proposed changes will make it illegal to sell these plants.

The Law Society of SA said while possession of these plants would not be illegal, nurseries selling them would face the same penalties - up to life in jail - as those caught trafficking large quantities of marijuana.

"In reality, what they are doing is those people in nurseries could be prosecuted exactly the same as those trafficking in cannabis," society president Ralph Bonig said.

The proposed changes are detailed in a discussion paper titled Implementation of Model Schedules for Commonwealth Serious Drug Offences, which was released by the Attorney-General's Department.

In a submission to the discussion paper last week, Nursery and Gardening Industry Australia said the proposal would "have huge repercussions on the Australian nursery industry and the wider gardening public".

The CEO of the SA branch of the industry body, Geoffrey Fuller, urged the Government to use "common sense" and review its proposal or jobs could be lost and small businesses could go to the wall.

"The Government has not thought this through - some bureaucrat has made an arbitrary list of plants but a more scientific approach must be taken," he said.

Mr Fuller said the levels of drugs in these plants were sometimes so low that tonnes of plant material would be needed to produce any consumable quantity of the drug.

"It beggars belief that someone would go into a person's garden to steal these plants and turn them into drugs for consumption," he said.

The Government's discussion paper acknowledges the proposals could have "adverse impacts on industry".

The Minister responsible for Drug Strategy, Brendan O'Connor, said "some ingredients used for manufacturing illegal drugs are contained in commonly occurring plants".

"However, the Commonwealth's drug laws target people who are involved in the illicit drug trade and that will continue to be the case."

With the consultation period ending on Friday, the Minister said he will now "consider the views presented and determine appropriate action".

Detective Superintendent Scott Duval, Officer in Charge, SA Drug Investigation Branch, said "there is little evidence of criminality associated with these plants as cannabis is by far the predominant controlled plant sold, supplied and trafficked".

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#2 Mar 19, 2011
The plants that contain drugs of concern

From: Sunday Mail (SA) March 20, 2011 2:11am

HERE is the list of plants proposed to be banned for sale under new Federal legislation:

* Any plant containing mescaline, includes the ornamental Beavertail cactus and tree-like cactus Tunillo.

* Any plant containing dimethyltryptamine, includes the Sturt's desert pea, several wattles such as Maiden's wattle tree, common reed and reed canary grass.

* Kratom - South-East Asian tree.

* Khat - African shrub.

* Diviner's Sage - Mexican mint.

* Any species of ephedra - includes European joint pine and green joint-fir.

* Any species of brugmansia/datura - includes angel's trumpets.

Source: Attorney-General's Department and Nursery & Garden Industry Australia

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#3 Mar 19, 2011
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The plants that contain drugs of concern
From: Sunday Mail (SA) March 20, 2011 2:11am
HERE is the list of plants proposed to be banned for sale under new Federal legislation:
* Any plant containing mescaline, includes the ornamental Beavertail cactus and tree-like cactus Tunillo.
* Any plant containing dimethyltryptamine, includes the Sturt's desert pea, several wattles such as Maiden's wattle tree, common reed and reed canary grass.
* Kratom - South-East Asian tree.
* Khat - African shrub.
* Diviner's Sage - Mexican mint.
* Any species of ephedra - includes European joint pine and green joint-fir.
* Any species of brugmansia/datura - includes angel's trumpets.
Source: Attorney-General's Department and Nursery & Garden Industry Australia
If you want a really good reference point for anything of this nature please read "Happy High Herbs" from a mob in Uki in Nth NSW.
These people grow stuff that is legal to hallucinate
chick

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#5 Mar 19, 2011
This governments gone nuts!

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#6 Mar 19, 2011
chick wrote:
This governments gone nuts!
Ah you've noticed
TTH

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#7 Mar 20, 2011
source of this law proposal is the Victorian Alcohol and Drug Association, VAADA.
Didn't take long for Victoria to go nuts!
http://www.vaada.org.au/

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#8 Mar 20, 2011
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source of this law proposal is the Victorian Alcohol and Drug Association, VAADA.
Didn't take long for Victoria to go nuts!
http://www.vaada.org.au/
Another revenue raising exercise
Legs

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#9 Mar 20, 2011
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Another revenue raising exercise
Why do you think they banned the importation of passion fruit flower ciggs?

It all comes down to money.
TTH

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#10 Mar 20, 2011
Saw some Fed gov minister trying his best not to laugh out loud when questioned about the submission, so wouldn't be too worried about it ever being seriously considered.

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#11 Mar 20, 2011
Legs wrote:
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Why do you think they banned the importation of passion fruit flower ciggs?
It all comes down to money.
I thought it was only the leaf.
Can I smoke the flower as well ?
Wacko ,easy stuff to grow and the fruit is real good for you as well.

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#12 Mar 20, 2011
TTH wrote:
source of this law proposal is the Victorian Alcohol and Drug Association, VAADA.
Didn't take long for Victoria to go nuts!
http://www.vaada.org.au/
No wonder they are falling all over themselves to outlaw the State Emblem of South Australia. Historically there never has been any limit to the variety of ways Victoria's government tries to stick it up us.
Wolf

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#13 Mar 20, 2011
Using high dosages of dimethyltryptamine will allow you to visit aliens made of light!
lol now the government can't have that!

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#14 Mar 20, 2011
I guess they're going to have to abolish the Banana industry then.

"They call me Mellow Yellow ..... "
Legs

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#15 Mar 20, 2011
Neville Thompson wrote:
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I thought it was only the leaf.
Can I smoke the flower as well ?
Wacko ,easy stuff to grow and the fruit is real good for you as well.
Yep it has a higher concentration.

It's in happy high herbs.

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#16 Mar 20, 2011
Has this deficient government finally lost it's marbles or is this all part of a plan to destabilise any industry that Australia has???

RE: "The Government's discussion paper acknowledges the proposals could have "adverse impacts on industry".

But they still do it and it's beginning to look like no industry is safe from it's insane judgements anymore!!!!!

Bugger then all! I've had enough of all this depressing shit. Think I'll go watch Silence of the Lambs, or maybe Avatar, or Independence Day, or Deliverance - that should cheer me up a bit!

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#17 Mar 20, 2011
Neville Thompson wrote:
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I thought it was only the leaf.
Can I smoke the flower as well ?
Wacko ,easy stuff to grow and the fruit is real good for you as well.
You were supposed to send me some!!!

Promises promises!

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#18 Mar 20, 2011
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You were supposed to send me some!!!
Promises promises!
Your son was going to send you some

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#19 Mar 20, 2011
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Your son was going to send you some
lol that was 35% Hydrogen Peroxide. Do you still want the breakdown on that? I've finally got it.

Don't think he knows anything about Passionfruit leaves - except he grows Passionfruit - or he used to, the rain killed them off!

It washed out his cement driveway over the creek too.

See? Too much of a good thing...

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#20 Mar 20, 2011
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lol that was 35% Hydrogen Peroxide. Do you still want the breakdown on that? I've finally got it.
Don't think he knows anything about Passion Fruit leaves - except he grows Passionfruit - or he used to, the rain killed them off!
It washed out his cement driveway over the creek too.
See? Too much of a good thing...
I got some hydro 35% on the net although the breakdown would be handy if I ever buy in 200 litre drums.
Please forward correspondence to the bat cave via the underground route and please include you return address for some passion fruit leaf

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#21 Mar 20, 2011
Legs wrote:
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Yep it has a higher concentration.
It's in happy high herbs.
I loaned my copy to a woman at the gardening shop and she has disappeared

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