Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#876 Nov 2, 2013
dreamer wrote:
<quoted text>
This is an excerpt from an article I came across by a guy named
Chris Banescu. "How do you know when you have successfully argued and defended your position when debating with leftists or progressives on Facebook (or face-to-face)?" It sounds very familiar.
1. They call you an "extremist, radical, racist, Teabagger, heartless capitalist, or FoxNews cultist.
2. They declare that "you're a 'hater' or you're angry."
3. They ignore the facts and evidence you present, and challenge your "motivations" instead.
4. They accuse you "insulting" any liberal, progressive, or leftist that you criticize, and remind you that you have no right to question.
5. They question your intelligence, experience, education, ethnic background, and/or religious beliefs.
6. They denounce you as "intolerant and judgmental."
7. They demand that you "get off your high horse."
8. They claim that you "lack empathy for others", that you're "selfish" or "evil."
9. They accuse you of not loving ordinary people, and hating the poor, the children, the elderly, and the disabled.
10. They tell you to shut up!
11. They become enraged and call you angry and hateful again when you apply their own standards of judgment to their own comments and opinions.
12. They blame you for being belligerent and hardheaded.
13. They're outraged that you continue to speak/post and stand your ground.
14. They call you a "right-wing extremist."
15. They presume to know your mind and heart, and tell you what you think and why.
16. When you expose their fallacies and logically defend your arguments with more objective information, they quickly change the subject or suddenly claim that they're too busy to waste time with you.
17. They almost immediately proceed to misrepresent your actual views on an entirely new issue, attempting to distract and place you on the defensive. They assert erroneous opinions and ascribe them to you; then demand that you explain yourself.
18. When you ignore this diversionary tactic, they accuse you of being too stupid or cowardly to answer.
19. When you stay on topic, they pretend that you're the one who misunderstood what they were saying and doing. They tell that you can't debate logically.
20. They complain that they can't tolerate you any longer.
These tactics indicate that many leftists and progressives are not interested in debating with those with whom they disagree. They emote instead of reason. They focus on personalities rather than principles. They don't engage the ideas. Instead, they attack, obfuscate, impugn, accuse, name-call, belittle, insult, abuse, and defame anyone who disagrees with them or challenges their beliefs."
Then they shove their win down your throat....I won...I won I won....forgot that one dumb arse. LOL.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#877 Nov 2, 2013
The Infidel wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah is not the only one angry with this piece of work.
Allah and God seeing they're one and the same eh stupid?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#878 Nov 2, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>"
You ran away from this too .....
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TB...
:)
There was nothing to run away from as he never had a legal leg to stand on in the first place he just open his mouth to be derogatory by using the term illegal.....he has closed his mouth on that now....nothing written in blood there, to my knowledge.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Gosford, Australia

#879 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
There was nothing to run away from as he never had a legal leg to stand on in the first place he just open his mouth to be derogatory by using the term illegal.....he has closed his mouth on that now....nothing written in blood there, to my knowledge.
So in the absence of a retraction as official as the original instruction you have nothing to go on but assumption. You persist in confusing assumptions with facts about a lot of things. About persons too.:)
Ahomana Allahwatching

Saint Marys, Australia

#880 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana this is a poor effort.
Firstky allah is a noun for a pagan moon diety.
Allah is not 'god' or the word for god (which is quite different) or anything to do with 'god'.
Every muslim knows that.
God is Universal, before & after time and is not contained within idols and objects etc
Allah is only of recent origin (180ad), after time, contained in objects & idols and a borrowed apostasy of BAAL the devil according to islam
itself. You sin against god when you compare
him with an evil pagan diety.
So Ahomana, you display poor taqiyya & shirk.
Lets see a better effort, try again.
---
I suspect you are a non believer.
The topic - is why illegal asylum seekers flee their (almost always) Islamic countries, to seek safe haven in a white Christian countries. It begs the question re what's wrong with islam.

Ahomana stay focused on the topic.
Muslim's know Islam allows & encourages them to 'lie' in defending Islam.
Also they have to defend islam. Allah tells you this, you can not run away like you did before.
You have to stand and defend Allah, and show
you skills of lying. Otherwise Allah will reserve his harshest judgement of you.
-
Here are the points about islam as the root
causeof all these illegal asylum seekers for you to demonstrate your taqiyya, shirk & kitman.
•Saudi - is behind Iraq & Syria war.
•Shia v Sunni v Wahhabi civil war.
• Bakri (Sunni) murdered Muhammad, Ali,
Uthman.
•Allah & Hubal,(later Muhammad) is based on Baal devil worship and lord of evil & darkness.
•Muhammad was murdered by poison on the 4th

assassination attempt by the Bakri after he
rescinded his false claims & tried to deny Aisha
& Abu Bakr their 'inheritance'...
"All of islam riven by 14 centuries of conflict.
•Wahhabism is a british invention. nutured in the
house of Saud who were Jews from Baghdad.
•Islam is based on series of lies and false beliefs
causing these problems today.
-
Now show you truely are Muslim, and defend Allah as he commands you to - with your best
lies and falsehoods.
Allah and everyone else is watching... answer the above questions, and prove your worthiness to the pagan devil gods of islam.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#881 Nov 2, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
So in the absence of a retraction as official as the original instruction you have nothing to go on but assumption. You persist in confusing assumptions with facts about a lot of things. About persons too.:)
I have to ask if retardation runs in your family as you fail to comprehend the fact that Morrison did not announce that from now on he was going to ignore the Refugee Conventions guidelines and implement derogatory and abusive speech against asylum seekers for his governments agenda, therefore because of the public and media outcry has ceased using said terms simply to save his and his bosses ignorant arses from further harassment. I have been justified that the majority of voters believe he should have known better and showed more respect, as should all of you ignorant idiots in the same boat, who were paddling towards the falls. This subject is done and dusted as far as I am concerned but seeing you like to make something out of nothing, knock yourself out.:)

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#882 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana Allahwatching wrote:
Ahomana this is a poor effort.
Firstky allah is a noun for a pagan moon diety.
Allah is not 'god' or the word for god (which is quite different) or anything to do with 'god'.
Every muslim knows that.
God is Universal, before & after time and is not contained within idols and objects etc
Allah is only of recent origin (180ad), after time, contained in objects & idols and a borrowed apostasy of BAAL the devil according to islam
itself. You sin against god when you compare
him with an evil pagan diety.
So Ahomana, you display poor taqiyya & shirk.
Lets see a better effort, try again.
---
I suspect you are a non believer.
The topic - is why illegal asylum seekers flee their (almost always) Islamic countries, to seek safe haven in a white Christian countries. It begs the question re what's wrong with islam.
Ahomana stay focused on the topic.
Muslim's know Islam allows & encourages them to 'lie' in defending Islam.
Also they have to defend islam. Allah tells you this, you can not run away like you did before.
You have to stand and defend Allah, and show
you skills of lying. Otherwise Allah will reserve his harshest judgement of you.
-
Here are the points about islam as the root
causeof all these illegal asylum seekers for you to demonstrate your taqiyya, shirk & kitman.
•Saudi - is behind Iraq & Syria war.
•Shia v Sunni v Wahhabi civil war.
• Bakri (Sunni) murdered Muhammad, Ali,
Uthman.
•Allah & Hubal,(later Muhammad) is based on Baal devil worship and lord of evil & darkness.
•Muhammad was murdered by poison on the 4th
assassination attempt by the Bakri after he
rescinded his false claims & tried to deny Aisha
& Abu Bakr their 'inheritance'...
"All of islam riven by 14 centuries of conflict.
•Wahhabism is a british invention. nutured in the
house of Saud who were Jews from Baghdad.
•Islam is based on series of lies and false beliefs
causing these problems today.
-
Now show you truely are Muslim, and defend Allah as he commands you to - with your best
lies and falsehoods.
Allah and everyone else is watching... answer the above questions, and prove your worthiness to the pagan devil gods of islam.
Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and a sister language of Arabic. Cheers bitch!
Micky

Adelaide, Australia

#883 Nov 2, 2013
Yes your half correct, But we have at least got the laws in place and a punishment for the crime, The difference is that the laws promote and condone the treatment of woman in such a manner in other countries. There are men who respect woman and there are men who don't in every corner of the world. It is undoubtedly the factor of not wanting undesirable,ethics arriving on the doorstep. As for your statistical reference,It is irrelevant to the fact that it is against our laws to rape and murder anyone in this country and it is nor condoned. these people have been educated to believe that it is ok, subject to the culture that they have grown up in. We do not bring our children up to denigrate women. You are comparing apples and pears again.
Micky

Adelaide, Australia

#884 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to ask if retardation runs in your family as you fail to comprehend the fact that Morrison did not announce that from now on he was going to ignore the Refugee Conventions guidelines and implement derogatory and abusive speech against asylum seekers for his governments agenda, therefore because of the public and media outcry has ceased using said terms simply to save his and his bosses ignorant arses from further harassment. I have been justified that the majority of voters believe he should have known better and showed more respect, as should all of you ignorant idiots in the same boat, who were paddling towards the falls. This subject is done and dusted as far as I am concerned but seeing you like to make something out of nothing, knock yourself out.:)
Well if he did not say that he was going to ignore the Refugee conventions guidelines then he should hurry up and announce it. What are you talking about when you say that you have been justified by the majority of voters believe he should have known better and showed more respect, Please explain!

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Gosford, Australia

#885 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to ask if retardation runs in your family as you fail to comprehend the fact that Morrison did not announce that from now on he was going to ignore the Refugee Conventions guidelines
That's right ... because the Refugee Conventions guidelines are themselves inconsistent on that matter rendering them open to local interpretation.

What he did do was issue a memo to his department instructing it on that interpretation.
Ahomana wrote:
therefore because of the public and media outcry has ceased using said terms simply to save his and his bosses ignorant arses from further harassment.
Do you know that for a fact? Isn't it no more than another of your many suppositions?
Ahomana wrote:
I have been justified that the majority of voters believe he should have known better and showed more respect,
If the Readers' Comments to the article you linked in your opening post are anything to go by then you have *not* been "justified that the majority of voters believe he should have known better and showed more respect".

Quite the opposite.

I remarked earlier in this thread that 2/3 of opinions they expressed opposed yours. A follow-up check today reveals that 66% has since increased to 84% who disagree with you.

I have to ask you again ... what makes you think that your judgment is better than anyone else's?
Ahomana wrote:
as should all of you ignorant idiots in the same boat, who were paddling towards the falls.
If Australia listens to you instead of more knowledgeable advice then the whole country would indeed be "paddling towards the falls".:)
Ahomana wrote:
This subject is done and dusted as far as I am concerned but seeing you like to make something out of nothing, knock yourself out.:)
Wasn't it you who "wanted to make something out of it in the first place"? Started something you couldn't finish?:)
dreamer

Camperdown, Australia

#886 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Then they shove their win down your throat....I won...I won I won....forgot that one dumb arse. LOL.
Your abusive stupidity never ends does it? Guess you're too uneducated to know the meaning of 'ad hominem attack'(hint: it doesn't mean a win).

These points define it just as they define most of your comments. Don't bother to respond with more lame insults, life is too short to engage with trolls.

Since: Jan 12

Where The Wild Things Grow

#887 Nov 2, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
They should have decent men in all countries and for the most part, they do, but we are still dominated by the fanatical few whether that be in the middle east or the rest of the world. These men wherever country they reside abuse physically and mentally and murder, simply because they can. We should look to our own problems in this area before we accuse others of not being able to control what we can't control...Brazil religion is predominantly Christian yet I don't hear any of you talking about the abuse of women there....is it just because hate against Muslims blinds people to the facts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women 's_rights_in_Brazil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Braz...
Yes, we should look after our own problems in this area - abuse of women, homelessness and poverty - in fact we should look after all of our own problems first. To that end, looking after our own problems includes rejecting any introduction of ideologies which would destroy progress we have made.
We have laws against brutality - it still happens, our laws are not perfect and no law will be an absolute solution to violence - but it is far preferable to laws which permit and implement violence.
The only reason I make reference to the abuse of women in Muslim majority countries is because currently we have Muslims here who support the introduction of Sharia law; if that is the system under which they wish to live in their countries, so be it, my concern is for our country, not theirs.

Since: Jan 12

Where The Wild Things Grow

#888 Nov 2, 2013
Micky wrote:
Yes your half correct, But we have at least got the laws in place and a punishment for the crime, The difference is that the laws promote and condone the treatment of woman in such a manner in other countries. There are men who respect woman and there are men who don't in every corner of the world. It is undoubtedly the factor of not wanting undesirable,ethics arriving on the doorstep. As for your statistical reference,It is irrelevant to the fact that it is against our laws to rape and murder anyone in this country and it is nor condoned. these people have been educated to believe that it is ok, subject to the culture that they have grown up in. We do not bring our children up to denigrate women. You are comparing apples and pears again.
I agree.
JollyDog not BollyWog

Australia

#889 Nov 2, 2013
As far as I know,Islam is the only religion that advises and allows a man to take his wife into a tent and assault her to discipline her.
Micky

Adelaide, Australia

#890 Nov 2, 2013
JollyDog not BollyWog wrote:
As far as I know,Islam is the only religion that advises and allows a man to take his wife into a tent and assault her to discipline her.
If this is true, then it is a sad day for the Religion and its followers. It is the year 2013 not 56 BC.
The Infidel

Adelaide, Australia

#891 Nov 3, 2013
Micky wrote:
<quoted text>
If this is true, then it is a sad day for the Religion and its followers. It is the year 2013 not 56 BC.
You and I know it's 2013, but when you have the IQ of a flea it's just another day in the sand pit.
Anglo-Saxon-Celt

Sydney, Australia

#892 Nov 3, 2013
'Asylum seekers' are sub-human parasites.

They are a disease just like multiculturalism is a disease.

Let 'em drown!
Micky

Adelaide, Australia

#893 Nov 3, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Look A. I have been there and done that, you chose to ignore the evidence and put your spin on it, there is only so many times I am willing to bang my head against a brick wall, no matter how right I am. I and many others who complained about Morrison's ignorant and disrespectful stance against innocent victims by reffering both to them and their entry as illegal has worked, as both he and Abbott have changed their tone...that means clearly that my point is proven and supported and you are still pissing in the wind.:)
What part of the posts replies don't you understand? On a majority of the voices on this topic, you have put your blinkers on declared that you are right and labeled everyone in some name calling event in order to try to sell us your opinion. Stop banging your head against the brick wall and agree to disagree with some etiquette.
Ahomana tot useless

Saint Marys, Australia

#894 Nov 3, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and a sister language of Arabic. Cheers bitch!
A pathetic effort. I ask you all - this Ahomana - is he not a hopeless pretend Muslim ?
Everyone knows Allah is not El-ioh etc.
And Aramaic is not a 'sister' language...unless you call Latin & Greek sister languages too.
All Muslims know Allah didn't exist until 180 ad when manufactured as a pagan moon god in with Hubal as his stone idol messenger.
All muslims know 'Allah' is the quareeshi noun for the deity god group - quite unique & very distinctive in pronunciation & spelling.
And all Muslim know records were kept of the creation of Allah for religous trade in the new established settlement of Mecca in 180AD.
No kaaba structure then,.. that didnt come until 430 AD. Hubal, the image to worship Baal or Allah via his quareeshi franchise stood in the
open in the kaaba or rock worship hajj circle.
We even know the costs of setting up Allah with hubal, from where he was imported, and the disputes over not being allowed to use the name
Baal so Allah had to be invented as a noun.
All on record by the Yemenites who controlled the trading post at the time. Yemenite Jews and
Ishmaelites who said Allah was a synthetic imitative creation of Baal to 'make money performing divinity for tribute'..
In fact you will not find any reference to Allah prior to that. After 180 AD there are many thousands of details to prove Allah was this manufactured pagan god of Sin (Baal).
----
And so -- back to the topic.
Why illegal Muslim asylum seekers seek safe haven in a white christian far away country - and what is exactly wrong with Islam that causes them to flee ?
-
Here are the reasons again.
Ahomana please try to think like a Muslim (as you are clearly not one) and practice your taqiyya, shirk & this time add a bit of kitman.

Remember every genuine muslim (and you
are not) HAS to defend Allah and the false claims they make of Allah such as you did.
You can not now run away as you did before. You have to stand and lie.
Ortherwise Allah will read this, and he and the black stone at his right hand will judge you most
severely, and cast you into the pit.
-
These points about islam illustrate some of the
causes of illegal muslim asylum seekers.
Please answer each one in turn fully & defend Allah. Show us that good old taqiyya and that you are a real muslim after all !!
•Saudi - is behind Iraq & Syria war.

•Shia v Sunni v Wahhabi civil war.

• Bakri (Sunni) murdered Muhammad, Ali,
Uthman.

•Allah & Hubal,(later Muhammad) is based on
Baal devil worship and lord of evil & darkness.

•Muhammad was murdered by poison on the 4th
assassination attempt by the Bakri after he
rescinded his false claims & tried to deny Aisha
& Abu Bakr their 'inheritance'...

"All of islam riven by 14 centuries of conflict.

•Wahhabism is a british invention nutured in the
house of Saud who were Jews from baghdad.

•Islam is based on series of lies and false beliefs
causing these problems today.

-
Ok. Now defend Allah with your best lies & falsehoods.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#895 Nov 3, 2013
The Little Things wrote:
<quoted text>
As always Thunder, I manage to resist calling you childish names..........
As far as I can see, Balloons is the only one that comes close. I havent seen one other post in this thread that agrees with you.
I dont know anyone in the real world who would agree with you.
I do know many that would vehemently oppose your views.
You are wrong and too stupid or proud to admit that. Or you are simply a troll as others suggest.
My opinion of you is that you are one of the few who live in a fantasy world / ivory tower. Where everything is happy and wonderful and nice, far removed from the reality of what is happening with (for eg) muslims in westernised european countries.
A few questions for you.
Why do you want to protect these people who are right now destroying the countries most similar to our own?
Dont you understand that because of your refusal to persecute those who would persecute you, you are destroying your country for your children and theirs? You are advocating tolerance for the intolerant.
Your need to be nice and PC will be the undoing of our way of life. Dont you get that? Don't you value our uniquely Australian way of life?
What is wrong with you? Does your need to be accepting and nice to everybody outweigh your responsibility to your kin? Why does your empathy for dangerous strangers outweigh your empathy for your countrymen?
Do you think the ANZACS who gave their lives for this country would be happy to hear you giving welfare preference to newcomers when pensioners cant afford to heat their houses in winter cause of the fracking carbon tax your heros implemented?
You've ever so clearly got sh*t backwards.
Ok, so I challenge you, you are most likely a grandmother? Is that correct? Please take your grand children to Lakemba. Drop them off by themselves for an afternoon there. Can you do that?
You see, not an immature name mentioned all post. Comon you can do it too. I believe in you Thunder! Arent you meant to earn respect at your age? You've earned piles of the opposite so far.
No answer here Thunder?

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