Why are Muslims so VIOLENT ?

Why are Muslims so VIOLENT ?

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#1 Nov 29, 2012
Off their trees

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Since: Jan 11

Australia

#2 Nov 29, 2012
Violence is imperative to justify the "Islam is a religion of Peace" mantra.

Violence is inflicted cruelly enough for long enough until no one is left standing.

That way an eerie 'Peace' is all that is left.
Dam skips

Nollamara, Australia

#3 Nov 29, 2012
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
Violence is imperative to justify the "Islam is a religion of Peace" mantra.
Violence is inflicted cruelly enough for long enough until no one is left standing.
That way an eerie 'Peace' is all that is left.
Do you mean Christianity. Just look at the levelling of Iraq and Afghanistan.

I would be more worried about countries that bunker bomb women and children.
The Anti-Muhammad

Hampton, Australia

#4 Nov 29, 2012
Dam skips wrote:
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Do you mean Christianity. Just look at the levelling of Iraq and Afghanistan.
I would be more worried about countries that bunker bomb women and children.
No, he means muslims. islam is violent and evil!

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Since: Jan 11

Australia

#5 Nov 29, 2012
Dam skips wrote:
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Do you mean Christianity. Just look at the levelling of Iraq and Afghanistan.
I would be more worried about countries that bunker bomb women and children.
And of course "Christians" as you put it just up and bomb for no reason whatsoever, absolutely unprovoked. Right?

Please clarify while I browse today's Islamic bombings of non-threatening civilians around the world. You do realize don't you, that Islamic multiple murders and bombings occur somewhere in the world without fail every day, usually in several locations.

You do also realize that over time Muslim inflicted homicides far outnumber any committed by non-Muslims, don't you?
yeah right

Australia

#6 Nov 29, 2012
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
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And of course "Christians" as you put it just up and bomb for no reason whatsoever, absolutely unprovoked. Right?
Please clarify while I browse today's Islamic bombings of non-threatening civilians around the world. You do realize don't you, that Islamic multiple murders and bombings occur somewhere in the world without fail every day, usually in several locations.
You do also realize that over time Muslim inflicted homicides far outnumber any committed by non-Muslims, don't you?
Apparently Bin Liner murdered more muslims than "christians" during his too-long life.

And again, the idea that a Christian ideology is fueling murder is nonsense. An islamic ideology, however, does seem to fuel, support, sanction and promote murder. The sign, "Behead the Infidel" seen in Sydney recently held by a CHILD comes to mind.
dognes

Masontown, PA

#7 Nov 29, 2012
youtube.com/watch... … lack of sleep and often feel people are attacking there religon

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Since: Jan 11

Australia

#8 Nov 29, 2012
yeah right wrote:
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Apparently Bin Liner murdered more muslims than "christians" during his too-long life.
And again, the idea that a Christian ideology is fueling murder is nonsense. An islamic ideology, however, does seem to fuel, support, sanction and promote murder. The sign, "Behead the Infidel" seen in Sydney recently held by a CHILD comes to mind.
Whenever we start going down that road the reflex response of Muslims is to point to the outmoded Old Testament of the Christian Faith as being violent also.

It might be more profitable to explore other factors.

First of all Christianity derives its name unsurprisingly from Christ. Whatever passed before his time had long since ceased to feature in the working brief for followers of Christ ... ie: "Christians".

Secondly while the teachings of Christ oppose violence, the teachings of Muhammed command it. It is the TEACHINGS of those two respective role models that is the real issue. There could be no greater contrast.

A violent Christian falls short of his Faith's teachings.
A non-violent Muslim falls short of his Faith's teachings.
Dam skips

Nollamara, Australia

#9 Nov 29, 2012
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
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Whenever we start going down that road the reflex response of Muslims is to point to the outmoded Old Testament of the Christian Faith as being violent also.
It might be more profitable to explore other factors.
First of all Christianity derives its name unsurprisingly from Christ. Whatever passed before his time had long since ceased to feature in the working brief for followers of Christ ... ie: "Christians".
Secondly while the teachings of Christ oppose violence, the teachings of Muhammed command it. It is the TEACHINGS of those two respective role models that is the real issue. There could be no greater contrast.
A violent Christian falls short of his Faith's teachings.
A non-violent Muslim falls short of his Faith's teachings.
No your hypocrite. If you said fanatical people or religion in general but instead you attack one group of people.

Christians are extremely violent. History and now demonstrates this. You are a propoganda believing muppet. Who cannot see the wrong in bombing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Religion and racism are the excuses people use for genociding the innocent. Christianity has a lot of blood on its hands. Arguably more than any group considering how it has dominated in taking mass amounts of wealth through slavery. Butchery and theft. It's clear who is the most savage. Take a look at the imperialists wealth.

Christianity has basically followed in the footsteps of the Roman Empire. Putting themselves on a pedastle as they murder innocent people to steal there way to the top.
Elias

Australia

#10 Nov 29, 2012
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
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And of course "Christians" as you put it just up and bomb for no reason whatsoever, absolutely unprovoked. Right?
Ade, you may want to flick through your dusty copy of the "History of Europe" to see the marvelous exploits of fundementalist chistianity during the inquisition and crusades. Of course this doesn't mean I disagree with your new found impetus to explain why mussies are so violent. Thank god for Nicolai Sennel eh.

Since: Jul 11

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#11 Nov 29, 2012
Dam skips wrote:
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No your hypocrite. If you said fanatical people or religion in general but instead you attack one group of people.
Christians are extremely violent. History and now demonstrates this. You are a propoganda believing muppet. Who cannot see the wrong in bombing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
Religion and racism are the excuses people use for genociding the innocent. Christianity has a lot of blood on its hands. Arguably more than any group considering how it has dominated in taking mass amounts of wealth through slavery. Butchery and theft. It's clear who is the most savage. Take a look at the imperialists wealth.
Christianity has basically followed in the footsteps of the Roman Empire. Putting themselves on a pedastle as they murder innocent people to steal there way to the top.
If you close your eyes and stamp your feet long and hard enough you might make it so..........

So, in the modern world, where is there still war and mass scale atrocities commited? Is it in western, Christian countries? Or the ME? So much so that ALL immigration from that area of the world is in a single direction, the fcuk outta there.

You seem to understand that bombing of innocent civilians is pretty wrong, would you like some info on how many bombings their have been this year alone committed in the name of Islam?

Suggest you continue to close your eyes and make believe of the world as you like it, you are FAR from seeing things clearly mate.
Dam skips

Nollamara, Australia

#12 Nov 30, 2012
The Little Things wrote:
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If you close your eyes and stamp your feet long and hard enough you might make it so..........
So, in the modern world, where is there still war and mass scale atrocities commited? Is it in western, Christian countries? Or the ME? So much so that ALL immigration from that area of the world is in a single direction, the fcuk outta there.
You seem to understand that bombing of innocent civilians is pretty wrong, would you like some info on how many bombings their have been this year alone committed in the name of Islam?
Suggest you continue to close your eyes and make believe of the world as you like it, you are FAR from seeing things clearly mate.
You are clearly an idiot. You have chosen to close your eyes to acts of war and invasion. You think your some sort if divine paladin. What is happening in the Middle East is exactly the same as when hitler decided to march through Europe.

The only mistake the Middle East had is being abundant with resources that are running out.

You can pretend all you like but the rest of the world sees what you do and they won't forget what your freedom comes with.

You are sitting in land that you stole and killed for so I don't expect you to get it.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#13 Nov 30, 2012
Dam skips wrote:
You are sitting in land that you stole and killed for so I don't expect you to get it.
So? What are you doing here? lol!!

Since: Aug 12

Adana, Turkey

#14 Nov 30, 2012
Nope we arent violent .

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Since: Jan 11

Australia

#15 Nov 30, 2012
Dam skips wrote:
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No your hypocrite. If you said fanatical people or religion in general but instead you attack one group of people.
Christians are extremely violent. History and now demonstrates this. You are a propoganda believing muppet. Who cannot see the wrong in bombing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
Religion and racism are the excuses people use for genociding the innocent. Christianity has a lot of blood on its hands. Arguably more than any group considering how it has dominated in taking mass amounts of wealth through slavery. Butchery and theft. It's clear who is the most savage. Take a look at the imperialists wealth.
Christianity has basically followed in the footsteps of the Roman Empire. Putting themselves on a pedastle as they murder innocent people to steal there way to the top.
If I were not reading your post with my own eyes I would never believe that someone could be as rabid as you.

YOU ... are the one who put the discussion on the basis that included Christians. You invited reply in the context that YOU had created. Then when I take you up on that you throw a hissy-fit that I have not raked in all other religions for censure. I could have. But again, it was YOU who steered conversation towards Christianity specifically.

Give yourself a self-righteous uppercut. LOL!

“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#16 Nov 30, 2012
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text> to Dam skips:
If I were not reading your post with my own eyes I would never believe that someone could be as rabid as you.
YOU ... are the one who put the discussion on the basis that included Christians. You invited reply in the context that YOU had created. Then when I take you up on that you throw a hissy-fit that I have not raked in all other religions for censure. I could have. But again, it was YOU who steered conversation towards Christianity specifically.
Give yourself a self-righteous uppercut. LOL!
He used to call himself Pitbull, so I guess "rabid" describes him well.
UScitizenAbroad

Tolland, Australia

#17 Nov 30, 2012
Elias wrote:
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Ade, you may want to flick through your dusty copy of the "History of Europe" to see the marvelous exploits of fundementalist chistianity during the inquisition and crusades. Of course this doesn't mean I disagree with your new found impetus to explain why mussies are so violent. Thank god for Nicolai Sennel eh.
Yet, Adel is right in the context of:

True Muslims actually follow Mohammed's non-pacifistic example (ie. using force/violence if necessary to spread the "peace" of Islam, to "protect" islam, among infidel lands/peoples). Mohammed was a very violent man.

True Christians follow Jesus' pacifistic example in life (ie. using non-violent means, "turning the other cheek", etc to spread the "New" testament).

Of course, non-pacifistic, non-Jesus-like supposed Christians have been responsible for naughty, violent stuff over the last 2 thousand years. Hardly good Christian behavior. jesus wouldn't approve.

However, violent, Islam-spreading/Islam "protecting", Mohammed-like muslims are the doctrinally true believers of Islam.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#18 Nov 30, 2012
Elias wrote:
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Ade, you may want to flick through your dusty copy of the "History of Europe" to see the marvelous exploits of fundementalist chistianity during the inquisition and crusades.
No need. I readily acknowledge that grievous excesses have been committed in the name of Christianity.

Now grievous excesses are being committed in the name of Islam. For the most part Christianity has matured and mellowed somewhat. Islam has not and never can.
Elias wrote:
Of course this doesn't mean I disagree with your new found impetus to explain why mussies are so violent. Thank god for Nicolai Sennel eh.
There is nothing "new found" about my contempt for Islamic violence, Elias. I have held that view for many more years than I have even known of Sennel's existence.

What do you think I am ... some primitive clockwork toy that needs a Sennel to wind the key? Sorry to shatter your fond delusion Elias, but I form my own opinions my own way just like you do.

Plus I have no particular "impetus" as you sneeringly put it. As far as I am concerned Islamic violence doesn't need explaining. Its real inspiration is there for all to read in the Qur'an and Hadiths.

I would not necessarily initiate discussion of Islamic violence. But I see a topic asking the question: "Why are Muslims so VIOLENT ?" and I reply.

Sorry if I didn't consult you for approval to reply to an issue raised by another.

So sue me.
tarni

Osaka, Japan

#19 Nov 30, 2012
christians attacked others for their land and riches to get slaves or to exploit locals. Their blood thirst was really pure material greed. they used religion to justify a lot of what they did. Islam was different in that it was not always blind greed that was the cause of all their aggression and violence, at times it was just pure religious zeal

Christians did not destroy all that they did not understand or contradicted their faith (unless it was a threat) but islam destroyed anything that did not preach a one single god, they destroyed a lot of knowledge.

Either way both christianity and islam both have been very violent and little does it matter to the innocent slain millions by both. The scum of either kind now debate who is worse. How many killed in india by muslims? 30 million? How many killed in americas by christians. Another 30 million? Bl00dy Crusades of either rel through the ages.

NOW, muslims and christians just do us all a favor and kill each other off please.
yeah right

Australia

#20 Nov 30, 2012
tarni wrote:
christians attacked others for their land and riches to get slaves or to exploit locals. Their blood thirst was really pure material greed. they used religion to justify a lot of what they did. Islam was different in that it was not always blind greed that was the cause of all their aggression and violence, at times it was just pure religious zeal
Christians did not destroy all that they did not understand or contradicted their faith (unless it was a threat) but islam destroyed anything that did not preach a one single god, they destroyed a lot of knowledge.
Either way both christianity and islam both have been very violent and little does it matter to the innocent slain millions by both. The scum of either kind now debate who is worse. How many killed in india by muslims? 30 million? How many killed in americas by christians. Another 30 million? Bl00dy Crusades of either rel through the ages.
NOW, muslims and christians just do us all a favor and kill each other off please.
LOL sorry but I had to laugh at this.

The idea that this is about "muslims v. christians" is a muslim construct. The muslim mind cannot think in any other way; it seems to REQUIRE that it "oppose" what they would term "christians" because it is outside of their understanding that countries like the US and the nations of Europe have innumerable cultures, religions and ways of life.

They use the term "christian" to mean anyone they want to hate - in the same way that you are using the term. It is not a very clear way of thinking about the issue of islamic spread or why the notion of islamic jihad, which is central to the doctrine, can be interpreted as a mandate for violence.

And there are a LOT of non-Christians out there who dislike islam - trust me LOL.

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