Catholic, a chemist but he won't sell the pill

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Since: Sep 09

Tianjin, China

#1 Oct 10, 2009
DENIS GREGORY
October 11, 2009

Moral objections ... Griffith chemist Trevor Dal Broi, whose religious beliefs stop him dispensing contraceptives, tells women with scripts to fill them at another of the town’s pharmacies.
A PHARMACIST has stopped selling contraceptives because of his strong religious beliefs.

Trevor Dal Broi is telling women using oral contraceptive pills for birth control to take their scripts to another chemist.

He removed condoms from his East Griffith Pharmacy several weeks ago and has banned the sale of emergency contraception morning-after pills.

These pills have been available without a prescription for between $20 and $30 since 2004.

Mr Dal Broi is handing out a leaflet to women with scripts for the contraceptive pill saying that he accepts the official teaching of the Catholic Church against the use of artificial contraception and has a moral objection to dispensing them.

Mr Dal Broi, who is married with four children, yesterday refused to comment.

NSW Deputy Premier and Health Minister Carmel Tebbutt said there was no legislation that compelled a pharmacist to stock or supply any particular type of medicine or therapeutic device. "But health professionals know the very important role that condoms play in the prevention of sexually transmitted diseases," she said. "People in Griffith will make their own choices about where to shop."

A Griffith pharmacist said it would be unprofessional to comment on another pharmacist's religious beliefs but said he was also a Catholic and had no qualms about providing contraceptives. "But I have my thoughts and I think the Church is losing the plot if it encourages this sort of thing."

Family Planning NSW chief executive officer Ann Brassil said the organisation had been promoting safe sex for more than 80 years. "We have a strong belief that contraception of any variety, be it condoms or the pill, should be freely available to all women and should be readily available from all pharmacies," she said.

"Without access to condoms and contraceptives, particularly condoms, we have high rates of unplanned pregnancies and high rates of sexually transmitted infections.

"These rates will be much higher if access is cut off."

Griffith resident Alison Dance, 18, said women in the town, with a population of more than 16,000, were outraged.

''Schools try their best to educate kids about condoms and the pill to prevent sexual diseases and unwanted pregnancies. He's doing the exact opposite. It's outrageous,'' Ms Dance said.

''A pharmacist is a bit like a doctor. They have a responsibility to look after you. They are someone whose advice you're supposed to trust. To be [refused] service because it's something he doesn't personally believe in is wrong.''

Pharmacy Guild of Australia national secretariat spokesman Greg Turnbull said Griffith had a number of pharmacies and people therefore did not have to go to Mr Dal Broi's.

"As far as condoms are concerned, people can buy them almost anywhere - in supermarkets, in hotel rest rooms and in petrol stations - so, really, a pharmacist choosing not to sell them is no big deal," he said.

Since: Sep 09

Tianjin, China

#2 Oct 10, 2009
It's good to see that in this politically correct farked up world a catholic chemist is allowed to discriminate.
Rex

Canberra, Australia

#3 Oct 10, 2009
Far be it from me wrote:
DENIS GREGORY
October 11, 2009
Moral objections ... Griffith chemist Trevor Dal Broi, whose religious beliefs stop him dispensing contraceptives, tells women with scripts to fill them at another of the town’s pharmacies.
A PHARMACIST has stopped selling contraceptives because of his strong religious beliefs.
Trevor Dal Broi is telling women using oral contraceptive pills for birth control to take their scripts to another chemist.
He removed condoms from his East Griffith Pharmacy several weeks ago and has banned the sale of emergency contraception morning-after pills.
These pills have been available without a prescription for between $20 and $30 since 2004.
Mr Dal Broi is handing out a leaflet to women with scripts for the contraceptive pill saying that he accepts the official teaching of the Catholic Church against the use of artificial contraception and has a moral objection to dispensing them.
Mr Dal Broi, who is married with four children, yesterday refused to comment.
NSW Deputy Premier and Health Minister Carmel Tebbutt said there was no legislation that compelled a pharmacist to stock or supply any particular type of medicine or therapeutic device. "But health professionals know the very important role that condoms play in the prevention of sexually transmitted diseases," she said. "People in Griffith will make their own choices about where to shop."
A Griffith pharmacist said it would be unprofessional to comment on another pharmacist's religious beliefs but said he was also a Catholic and had no qualms about providing contraceptives. "But I have my thoughts and I think the Church is losing the plot if it encourages this sort of thing."
Family Planning NSW chief executive officer Ann Brassil said the organisation had been promoting safe sex for more than 80 years. "We have a strong belief that contraception of any variety, be it condoms or the pill, should be freely available to all women and should be readily available from all pharmacies," she said.
"Without access to condoms and contraceptives, particularly condoms, we have high rates of unplanned pregnancies and high rates of sexually transmitted infections.
"These rates will be much higher if access is cut off."
Griffith resident Alison Dance, 18, said women in the town, with a population of more than 16,000, were outraged.
''Schools try their best to educate kids about condoms and the pill to prevent sexual diseases and unwanted pregnancies. He's doing the exact opposite. It's outrageous,'' Ms Dance said.
''A pharmacist is a bit like a doctor. They have a responsibility to look after you. They are someone whose advice you're supposed to trust. To be [refused] service because it's something he doesn't personally believe in is wrong.''
Pharmacy Guild of Australia national secretariat spokesman Greg Turnbull said Griffith had a number of pharmacies and people therefore did not have to go to Mr Dal Broi's.
"As far as condoms are concerned, people can buy them almost anywhere - in supermarkets, in hotel rest rooms and in petrol stations - so, really, a pharmacist choosing not to sell them is no big deal," he said.
I'm sorry, i'm a little lost as to where you are going with this story......

Are you saying women will get pregnant because he doesn't sell contraceptives?

Free country, if that gets his rocks off then so be it, plenty of other chemists around.

Thats what freedom of expression is and with all this horsecrap about respecting muslim rights, how about respecting this chaps rights as well.

Since: Sep 09

Tianjin, China

#4 Oct 10, 2009
Rex wrote:
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I'm sorry, i'm a little lost as to where you are going with this story......
Are you saying women will get pregnant because he doesn't sell contraceptives?
Free country, if that gets his rocks off then so be it, plenty of other chemists around.
Thats what freedom of expression is and with all this horsecrap about respecting muslim rights, how about respecting this chaps rights as well.
The jerk is a chemist.
It is his job to supply prescriptions, not to judge.
Gia

Brisbane, Australia

#5 Oct 10, 2009
Far be it from me wrote:
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The jerk is a chemist.
It is his job to supply prescriptions, not to judge.
So true !!
Rex

Canberra, Australia

#6 Oct 10, 2009
Far be it from me wrote:
<quoted text>
The jerk is a chemist.
It is his job to supply prescriptions, not to judge.
Far be it from me but in this country you can choose who uses your services, we don't live in some dictatorship that says because i own a business i have to serve you or provide my products.

Doctors supply prescriptions NOT chemists.

and why is being a chemist all of sudden a jerks role, i'm sure if your sick the "jerk" is the first one you go see.

Nobody forces you to use the chemist, get over it, or is your whole point to turn this into a religious bigotry thread.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#7 Oct 10, 2009
Rex wrote:
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Far be it from me but in this country you can choose who uses your services, we don't live in some dictatorship that says because i own a business i have to serve you or provide my products.
Doctors supply prescriptions NOT chemists.
and why is being a chemist all of sudden a jerks role, i'm sure if your sick the "jerk" is the first one you go see.
Nobody forces you to use the chemist, get over it, or is your whole point to turn this into a religious bigotry thread.
Religion is bigotry, displayed by a dip stick catholic chemist he's a trained dispenser not a morals judge. Send the bastard broke is the best remedy, freedom of religion doesn't mean your free to impose your primitive bias.
catholic pharmacist

Padstow, Australia

#9 Oct 10, 2009
We need people with morals. As a pharmacist we have the responsibility to promote life and health, not to prevent or take it away. Contraception encourages selfishness; and sexual abstinece encourages self-control, something we desperately need in today's society. Lets not become animals and lets educate our kids that there are consequences to our actions. Contraception gives them a notion that they can do anything without consequences (when really there is a chance they wont work). Sexual relations in the eyes of a catholic is an unconditional act of love and life should not be actively prohibited. he's got courage and is doing his job as a health professional...promote health and life not death. Just look at the statistics.( zenit.org - AIDS in Africa: Abstinence Works)
"researchers have noted that in many countries in sub-Saharan Africa, HIV transmission rates have remained high despite a considerable increase in condom use. For example, condom sales in Botswana increased from 1 million in 1993 to 3 million in 2001, while HIV prevalence among pregnant urban women increased from 27% to 45%. In Cameroon, during the same period, condom sales rose from 6 million to 15 million, while HIV prevalence increased from 3% to 9%" and
"First, actual changes in patterns of sexual behavior have led to the most significant reductions in HIV prevalence. Take the well-known case of Uganda, where the prevalence rate dropped from 15% in 1991 to a little over 5% in 2001. Behavior change was so thorough in Uganda that by the mid-1990s, 95% of adults in that country said they had only one partner or none at all. But it is not only Uganda."

Since: Sep 09

Tianjin, China

#10 Oct 10, 2009
Rex wrote:
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Far be it from me but in this country you can choose who uses your services, we don't live in some dictatorship that says because i own a business i have to serve you or provide my products.
Doctors supply prescriptions NOT chemists.
and why is being a chemist all of sudden a jerks role, i'm sure if your sick the "jerk" is the first one you go see.
Nobody forces you to use the chemist, get over it, or is your whole point to turn this into a religious bigotry thread.
Cut the crap Rex, I'm Australian born and have lived their for over 40 years.
What you say is complete & utter bu11$h!t.

My mistake, it is a chemists job to FILL prescriptions, not judge.

This thread can become whatever.

religious bigotry

discrimination

how hypocritical PC is

Whatever

It has all the ingredients.

Since: Sep 09

Tianjin, China

#11 Oct 10, 2009
Where does it stop if this is allowed?

Not supplying medication because the chemist disagrees with your illness.

“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#12 Oct 10, 2009
Far be it from me wrote:
Where does it stop if this is allowed?
Not supplying medication because the chemist disagrees with your illness.
Ok, go a bit further. Doctors can refuse to treat a patient if they don't want to (or refuse to) take the drug a doctor prescribes. Doctors can refuse to treat an alcoholic if their drinking is causing their disorder and they won't stop drinking. In some A & E departments, inebriated people are treated like dirt, simply because nursing staff say their 'sickness' or 'injury' was self inflicted. Doctors can refuse to treat a patient if they are a smoker and their smoking is causing their disorder and they won't/can't stop smoking. Some doctors even refuse to prescribe the pill. If you are in the clutches of Mental Health and you refuse to take the drugs prescribed for you (eg. if they make you worse or sick), they have the authority to admit you to hospital and forceably give you the drug, or they wipe their hands of you altogether. Most dentists won't even discuss the pros and cons of fluoride or mercury, you get the filling containing fluoride/mercury or you find another dentist who respects your wishes to not have those type of fillings.

In the sickness industry lies the most judgemental of all people, if only the general public was aware of what really goes on they would be shocked to know how much control is exercised on our health in all departments.

Refusing to supply a service on religious grounds has been around for a long time, I guess some things never change!
Kate

Penrith, Australia

#13 Oct 10, 2009
I bet Trevor Dal Broi would sell the pill if the Vatican said it was ok to do so...Pope Paul VI refused to accept the findings of the commission set up by John XXIII...

This quote from a woman who was a member of the commission: If, as in the majority opinion of the commission, birth control is not intrinsically evil, and if it is clear that the majority of Catholics are practicing some form of birth control, how can the official church continue to uphold de statements of Humanae Vitae?

....

Humanae Vitae was the last encyclical Paul VI wrote...he admitted he was weak and that he wasn't a strong leader for the church..

Trevor is simply doing as he's told, like a good little Catholic boy. Just the kind of Catholic the Vatican loves!
Rex

Canberra, Australia

#14 Oct 11, 2009
Far be it from me wrote:
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Cut the crap Rex, I'm Australian born and have lived their for over 40 years.
What you say is complete & utter bu11$h!t.
My mistake, it is a chemists job to FILL prescriptions, not judge.
This thread can become whatever.
religious bigotry
discrimination
how hypocritical PC is
Whatever
It has all the ingredients.
Not every shop or f_cking chemist stocks every f_ucking thing a person wants or needs. If it's not being sold at that particular chemist then go to another f_cking one like you would any other item or product you need or desire. I don't see you or your f_cked up "lets have a go at religious groups" wankjob set coming on here and having a go at the local shopkeeper because he doesn't stock Tuna Mornay mix or some crap like that.

Your f_cking intent was clear d!ckhead, i've been here long enough to see through the crap that people post.

I see no problem with him not stocking a product because of his belief, get the f_ck over your f_cking moron.
Rex

Canberra, Australia

#15 Oct 11, 2009
And just what the f_ck does being "Australian born" suppose to mean to me, so am i, oh and i really don't give a stuff about your age, being forty doesn't automatically give you some superior moral high ground you know.
Gia

Brisbane, Australia

#16 Oct 11, 2009
Rex wrote:
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Far be it from me but in this country you can choose who uses your services, we don't live in some dictatorship that says because i own a business i have to serve you or provide my products.
Doctors supply prescriptions NOT chemists.
and why is being a chemist all of sudden a jerks role, i'm sure if your sick the "jerk" is the first one you go see.
Nobody forces you to use the chemist, get over it, or is your whole point to turn this into a religious bigotry thread.
Yes Doctors supply prescriptions and Chemists are supposed to supply the goods on the prescription. Yes we have the right to choose whatever chemist we patronise but for a chemist to refuse to fill a prescription is ridiculous, that's their job.

I fail to see how this was a thread started to stir up religious bigotry, it was simply a post on what a particular chemist chose to do.

“Say No to Racism.”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#17 Oct 11, 2009
Don't worry about it to much.
If the muslims get into power things will get much worse, as they have in the USA.

We need to concentrate our energy on the foreign enemy, Catholics are not our real enemy, though the mass media tries to make us believe they are.

While we fight between Christian and Atheist factions, the dark racist hordes march into our lands.
Trevor

Sydney, Australia

#18 Oct 11, 2009
no more pills,God forbids it.
Trevor

Sydney, Australia

#19 Oct 11, 2009
Rex wrote:
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Not every shop or f_cking chemist stocks every f_ucking thing a person wants or needs. If it's not being sold at that particular chemist then go to another f_cking one like you would any other item or product you need or desire. I don't see you or your f_cked up "lets have a go at religious groups" wankjob set coming on here and having a go at the local shopkeeper because he doesn't stock Tuna Mornay mix or some crap like that.
Your f_cking intent was clear d!ckhead, i've been here long enough to see through the crap that people post.
I see no problem with him not stocking a product because of his belief, get the f_ck over your f_cking moron.
be careful with your dirty language sister no pills for you.
Rex

Canberra, Australia

#20 Oct 11, 2009
Gia wrote:
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Yes Doctors supply prescriptions and Chemists are supposed to supply the goods on the prescription. Yes we have the right to choose whatever chemist we patronise but for a chemist to refuse to fill a prescription is ridiculous, that's their job.
I fail to see how this was a thread started to stir up religious bigotry, it was simply a post on what a particular chemist chose to do.
Taking your line, a bus driver should drive me WHERE i WANT when I WANT, after all its their job to drive people. A person walks into my business and looks like a complete junkie, i refuse to serve him and tell him to piss off, thats my right, what are you and your bleeding hearts set going to do about it, NOTHING because YOU CAN'T even if you wanted to.

By the way you and monkey balls should read the first post (monkey balls, by the way) correctly (even dipsh!t can't read his own post) it infers quite clearly this is about religion with a non stocked product used as an excuse to vent the usual bullsh!t against people who have never done you or yours ANY harm.

You want to start supporting vile and viciously twisted religious bigots then go ahead, just be ready for others to stand up to you and monkey balls and tell you how it is.

It's 2009 wanker, it's not that hard to find another chemist.
Rex

Canberra, Australia

#21 Oct 11, 2009
Trevor wrote:
<quoted text>be careful with your dirty language sister no pills for you.
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