China poised to control Pakistani port vital for economic and perhaps military interests

Full story: The Washington Post

In this Tuesday, Feb 6, 2007 file photo, a Pakistani soldier of Pakistan's paramilitary force is silhouetted at the newly built Gwadar port, 700 kilometers from Karachi, Pakistan.

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Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>That's rich, an enslaved Brit, living in cold miserable slavery, calling others slaves
Well... yes - you are living in a communist country anyway Bob.
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PakARSEsTANi wrote:
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Well... yes - you are living in a communist country anyway Bob.
News update for those who haven't been paying attention. We threw communism/socialism/leftist liberalism in the trashbin 35-40 years ago and picked up free market capitalism. Been growing 10%/Yr since. But what's really ironic, is that we do live in a one-party dictatorship totalitarian police state. No elections, no rights, the State can do whatever it likes w/o any restraint, a la George Orwell. Funny thing happened between theory and practice tho. We all of us have waaay more personal freedom than those in the so-called democratic west. Naturally you will scoff at the apparent absurdity of this, but I think I'm in for the last laugh
PakARSEsTANi

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I've got no 'beef' with you Bob,
excuse the pun. But:

I own my own business.
I own property.
I don't pay Jizwa tax lol
But exactly as I planned for.
And my money works for me,
not the other way round.
Is that 'personal freedom'?

Now, I don't know about you,
but to me - that doesn't sound
like being enslaved, does it?
PakARSEsTANi

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PakARSEsTANi wrote:
I've got no 'beef' with you Bob,
excuse the pun. But:
I own my own business.
I own property.
I don't pay Jizwa tax lol
But exactly as I planned for.
And my money works for me,
not the other way round.
Is that 'personal freedom'?
Now, I don't know about you,
but to me - that doesn't sound
like being enslaved, does it?
Also Bob, I can say what I want without fear of vanishing.
How's that for personal freedom?
Bob Burns

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PakARSEsTANi wrote:
I've got no 'beef' with you Bob,
excuse the pun. But:
I own my own business.
I own property.
I don't pay Jizwa tax lol
But exactly as I planned for.
And my money works for me,
not the other way round.
Is that 'personal freedom'?
Now, I don't know about you,
but to me - that doesn't sound
like being enslaved, does it?
As described, not much different for me here. Own my own business which I run as I please, regulations few and reasonably enforced, tax low, satellite TV gives me all the western channels, cops and officials never bother me or any one I know. What the heck is a "Jizwa tax"?
Clark

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Pakistan's Karachi World's Highest Building to be made here Taller than current Burj Al Khalifa
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I wonder if the PAKIs are going to charge the Chinese Jizya tax? LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
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TAX on Services and Income only as per Law of Land..from operator of Port
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Lol Baluchistan. Its more dangerous than the Swat Valley.

Only China could get in there with its we wont get involved in your local politics strategy. Its a great Idea to open up Baluchistan. It might help to get supplies all the way into Afghanistan where they are desperately needed. Its actually about time China made a sensible move rather than the other shit they are carrying on with bla bla bla ancient times.

I suggested doing this myself a while back. Its about time somebody go on to this. Who better than China who can mediate with Iran so there seems to be no problems politcially on either side.

Why would India really care about this anyway. Its not like it makes a difference. China can allready effectively attack anyone so its not like they are doing this to get into position.

I can understand the US being concerned. Simply because China is likely to support Iran and China and Iran are developing area denial and other things to attack US forces. Historically speaking they are to late however it still looks like they want one last crack at it. haha.

It will be interesting to see where Saudi gets its oil imports from when it becomes a net importer of oil by 2030. Wow there it is again, that year it just keeps popping up.

When I was learning about Baluchistan I learned all about their independence struggle. Now they are getting it. They wont like this in Britain.
Sher

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Excellent move and one that was coming a long time. Pak and China are natural allies and friendly neighbors. It makes perfect sense for both to cooperate on many levels. This should only be the beginning of a fruitful cooperation between China and Pakistan. Additionally, both have converging interests. Pak can earn much needed transit fees. Roads i.e infrastructure can be linked within the country with the help of Chinese expertise and investment. In turn, China can prosper by building pipelines towards its province and conducting commerce from a shorter and economically viable route. It's a massive win win.

American/Indian paranoia is unfounded. Of course, both would have liked to get their hands on this strategically important port/route. Too bad though. The Chinese aren't killing innocent Pakistanis by drone missile strikes. Nor did the Chinese violate Pakistani sovereignty. The Chinese don't offer blood aid in return for dirty services. Unlike some, the Chinese have always helped Pakistan in good and bad times. The Pakistani people consider China as a trustworthy ally. Besides, business is business, right?
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Sher wrote:
Too bad though. The Chinese aren't killing innocent Pakistanis by drone missile strikes. Nor did the Chinese violate Pakistani sovereignty. The Chinese don't offer blood aid in return for dirty services.
Don't worry, it's just a matter of time before they join in the fun.
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Pakistan made a good Choice by allowing China to control the Starid of Hormez
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Pakistan China Friend Ship zinda bad
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The Deal is also Maximize Efforts in Building and attracting Huge Vessels for Services

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Iran also announces New Port Near Baluchistan - Tough Competition a head
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Mar 7, 2013
 
Let THEM HAVE IT FOR FEW HUNDRED YEARS OR SO
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Mar 9, 2013
 
China Interested in making more investment to enhancement the existing facility

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