Analysis: The end of American capitalism?

[Money]

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[ZekeCDN]

[QUOTE who="Money"
YouTube video "Spread the Wealth"[/QUOTE]
Did you like Ronald Reagan?
Did you think he was a good President?
Under Obama's tax plan, 95% of American taxpayers will pay less income tax than they do now ... and the wealthiest 5% will pay at the same rate they did under Ronald Reagan.
Was Ronald Reagan a socialist?

[ZekeCDN]

TomJ wrote:

What matters is is Obama still a Muslim?
The evidence is overwhelming!

The "evidence" as you refer to it, is bull excrement. It has fabricated from whole cloth by deceitful people who want to trick you into voting against your own best interests--by distracting you from the real issues in this election.

Are you better off than you were four yeaH^H^H^weeks ago?

[Wake up FQQLZ]

The Bush family of Capitalism begins and ends with Cronyism!

[ZekeCDN]

LtGen-CSA wrote:

How could someone say this if it were not true?

Quote: "The mainstream media and Obama has done greatly to prevent this coming out."

Well they can't has done too greatly, cause there you are on YouTube!

But to answer your question: Money? Five minutes of fame? Those are both possibilities, but come on, look at this guy and listen to him ... don't you think the real answer is because he's an unfortunately unbalanced individual?

It's very sad but America's cities are full of mental patients who've been discharged from state facilities prematurely due to cost cutting efforts. They have to fend for themselves, even though many are still acutely ill, with no supports, often living on the streets with nobody making sure they're taking their medications etc. It's one of the biggest, yet most under-reported scandals of our times.

[IAMWOMAN]

Sean1030 wrote:

<quoted text>
If Bush the Drunk is not the antichrist, I doubt Obama is.

Maybe Bush planted the seed and Obama is going to harvest it.

[Snobby]

LtGen-CSA wrote:

Please watch this
http://www.Youtube.com/watch...
How could someone say this if it were not true?

OK, who hasn't gotten too high and did "something" they normally would not of?
Kidding.
Perhaps the guy was paid, to say this stuff.
Sue him? OK. But he probably does not have anything. So he is not worried.
Polygraph test? Many, many people, can beat a polygraph test. Sociopaths, and narcissist being especially good at it.

I am surprised this story has not headlined the news though.
I wonder. Is Paul Crouch of TBN friends of these people?

[Steve]

Don't expect America to be the super power much longer - OPEC, China, and Europe want to dissociate and distance themselves from America - they are just figuring out how to do it with minimal disruption - why do they want free of us? because our debt is staggering (and that's an understatement) Asia holds 1/3 of it and they are extremely nervous about that position (the continued weakening of the dollar - growing financial instability - loosing our capacity to produce, our federal government on the verge of bankruptcy, and on and on)-

Also, we have an imperialist attitude - oil is traded worldwide in US dollars - OPEC wants to change that - they tire of accepting the ever weakening US paper in exchange for their precious oil - but, we are hugely dependent on their oil - so much so it's a national security issue - That's really what Iraq is about - to give the US elites control of huge oil reserves and a strong presence in the Middle East.

Japan and China are hugely linked economically to the US (we are their market - when we go down, they go down - we're making them extremely anxious in recent years)... our consumer debt is out the roof (we're totally over extended as a people)- our good jobs are leaving by the hundreds of thousands (the gov sugars this over with manipulated stats, and reassuring speeches - like Bush gave the other day - but we all know it - I can feel the growing weakness of the economy - can't you?- our whole system is now a big bubble and ever closer to the bursting point)

And what's worse - There is NO solution! We are way beyond that. Both political parties may have a few noble individuals (albeit powerless to do anything) but overwhelmingly, both parties (and every branch of government) is extremely corrupt. There can be NO solution when the only agents who are in a position to solve our problems, are the very problem themselves - hmmmmm - Or perhaps our fundamental problem is, what the values of the majority of the American people have become?... the elite have no scruples and the commoners have no discipline. It's apparent in every facet of life.

[2ndsight]

verification wrote:

<quoted text>I see it like this,SCO, CSTO, ASEAN and their proxy in Iraq. 1 more step 1 more provocation 1 more blunder and the Kings of the East have arrived in the middle east. On a map there already there but who gives a shit. Funny thing is, It wont be about that identity theft poser country who thinks everythings about them, its gonna be about energy and resources

Right..and the Resource part..MORE SO..this comes with good Relations and foreign diplomacy..which we so really Lack (right now). I believe Obama is, most likely, a much better ambassador than Rice or Biden. which leads me to the choice of sec of state...Hilary?..again i think Obama himself..the better historian and Eloquent speaker/Diplomat.

[Steve]

Concerned U S Citizen wrote:

This country deserves more than an opposition party made of "Bush" Democrats and pro-war liberals.
This country needs to break the pro-corporate war political matrix of a ficticious "two party" system. Our country "of the people, by the people, for the people" is all but gone. And we have become a country "of the masses, by the asses, for the privileged classes."
A Wasted Vote
by Rep. Chuck Baldwin
October 10, 2008
When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so.
In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."
Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!
Take a look at the recent $850+ billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States. Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?
But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.
cont...

Ok - I agree with much of what you say - but, I think it is over-stating to say that Baldwin can accomplish all this single handed - we need a new government (a sea change at every level)- not just a new president - but to be totally honest - the fundamental problem is not with the government - the government is a reflection of the governed - the real problem is, what the values of the majority of American people have become (i.e. the elite have no scruples and the commoners have no discipline). It's apparent in every facet of life.

[Steve]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/13/economy.viol...

[Snobby]

Steve wrote:

Don't expect America to be the super power much longer - OPEC, China, and Europe want to dissociate and distance themselves from America - they are just figuring out how to do it with minimal disruption - why do they want free of us? because our debt is staggering (and that's an understatement) Asia holds 1/3 of it and they are extremely nervous about that position (the continued weakening of the dollar - growing financial instability - loosing our capacity to produce, our federal government on the verge of bankruptcy, and on and on)-
Also, we have an imperialist attitude - oil is traded worldwide in US dollars - OPEC wants to change that - they tire of accepting the ever weakening US paper in exchange for their precious oil - but, we are hugely dependent on their oil - so much so it's a national security issue - That's really what Iraq is about - to give the US elites control of huge oil reserves and a strong presence in the Middle East.
Japan and China are hugely linked economically to the US (we are their market - when we go down, they go down - we're making them extremely anxious in recent years)... our consumer debt is out the roof (we're totally over extended as a people)- our good jobs are leaving by the hundreds of thousands (the gov sugars this over with manipulated stats, and reassuring speeches - like Bush gave the other day - but we all know it - I can feel the growing weakness of the economy - can't you?- our whole system is now a big bubble and ever closer to the bursting point)
And what's worse - There is NO solution! We are way beyond that. Both political parties may have a few noble individuals (albeit powerless to do anything) but overwhelmingly, both parties (and every branch of government) is extremely corrupt. There can be NO solution when the only agents who are in a position to solve our problems, are the very problem themselves - hmmmmm - Or perhaps our fundamental problem is, what the values of the majority of the American people have become?... the elite have no scruples and the commoners have no discipline. It's apparent in every facet of life.

Yes, the only thing that any nation wants from the U.S. is money. Thats it.
For it has nothing else to offer.
Foreign aid is really "Buying foreign friends"--prostitution. How incredibly pathetic on Americas part.

America to the world is like a rouge guard in prison. Everyone uses the guard for things. But in there hearts they hate the guard, because he is supposed to stand for something else, not a criminal. When a riot breaks out, the first killed are the snitch and the rouge/crooked guards.

[Imperialgrunt]

The real end to American capitalism is the beginning of taxation on all small businesses who make more than $250K. Most if not all small businesses create "products" and those small businesses create Jobs. Having said that, it is impossible to tax the lifeblood of our free market society and see anything but a lack of growth in this already hurting market. I am not a huge McCain fan but if you vote for Obama you will be voting for America's first marked step toward a western European form of socialism. The sad truth is that if we move toward this form of "social innovation" we won't be nearly as well adjusted because 40% of all Americans do not work. Good luck going back to the "old ways" once you give away all the hard working money to all the people who decide to do less.

[Snobby]

Imperialgrunt wrote:

The real end to American capitalism is the beginning of taxation on all small businesses who make more than $250K. Most if not all small businesses create "products" and those small businesses create Jobs. Having said that, it is impossible to tax the lifeblood of our free market society and see anything but a lack of growth in this already hurting market. I am not a huge McCain fan but if you vote for Obama you will be voting for America's first marked step toward a western European form of socialism. The sad truth is that if we move toward this form of "social innovation" we won't be nearly as well adjusted because 40% of all Americans do not work. Good luck going back to the "old ways" once you give away all the hard working money to all the people who decide to do less.

I'll take socialism. As capitolism has killed the common man.

[Steve]

Imperialgrunt wrote:

The real end to American capitalism is the beginning of taxation on all small businesses who make more than $250K. Most if not all small businesses create "products" and those small businesses create Jobs. Having said that, it is impossible to tax the lifeblood of our free market society and see anything but a lack of growth in this already hurting market. I am not a huge McCain fan but if you vote for Obama you will be voting for America's first marked step toward a western European form of socialism. The sad truth is that if we move toward this form of "social innovation" we won't be nearly as well adjusted because 40% of all Americans do not work. Good luck going back to the "old ways" once you give away all the hard working money to all the people who decide to do less.

i agree except - do you not think George Sr., Clinton, and George Jr. are also "western European form of socialism" - or would you consider them more "eastern European form of socialism"??(being slightly sarcastic - but I have no respect for the lot of them, or McCain or Obama for sure).

[Youu]

sure. why not.

you think the world is only something called
"capitalism" or, if not something called "communism"?

someone owns your mind on such matters

[3 Dog night]

Clueless wrote:

<quoted text>Look up his ties to our enemies.

Yeah, I know about that, but that doesn't make him a liberal. That makes him an unscrupulous businessman. It's no surprise to GE employees. We're used to dealing with CEO's that have questionable ethics.

[3 Dog night]

AvidTrober wrote:

<quoted text>
Financed how?
Bin Laden is 1 of 56/57 siblings, many half-siblings, and for the most part, not a "family" in the sense we think of it. More like "relatives" (whom you know of,but don't know).
A sibling's free will agency is not your responsibility. The Bush family never cooperated with terrorist activites, period. And, it's b*s* you can't prove to say otherwise...post the proof:
It's voters like you, National Equirier quality minds, that direct your votes over the most stupid, misinformed news possible.

Remember the republican rule of guilt by association.

[3 Dog night]

TomJ wrote:

What matters is is Obama still a Muslim?
Go to 'The Obama File', by Beckwith.
Read under 'Islam' and under 'religion'
The evidence is overwhelming!
Want to take a chance?
I don't.

No one but the redneck right believes that. Even your candidate says he's not a Muslim and "just a decent family man".

Better find some new ammunition, because the fight is almost over for the republicans.

[pottymouth]

Snobby wrote:

<quoted text>
OK, who hasn't gotten too high and did "something" they normally would not of?
Kidding.
Perhaps the guy was paid, to say this stuff.
Sue him? OK. But he probably does not have anything. So he is not worried.
Polygraph test? Many, many people, can beat a polygraph test. Sociopaths, and narcissist being especially good at it.
I am surprised this story has not headlined the news though.
I wonder. Is Paul Crouch of TBN friends of these people?

Gay sex and sex scandals in general are Washington's poorest kept secrets. If you only knew how many GOP AND Democratic politicians liked to stroll on the wild side you'd be shocked. If we threw them all out we'd need to hire Mexicans because the whole of Capital Hill woud be vacant.