Dead 60 years, Stalin's influence lingers in Putin's Russia

Mar 5, 2013 Full story: Reuters 533

A conference held under the auspices of the Russian Orthodox Church is perhaps the last place you might expect to hear a good word said about Josef Stalin.

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Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#1 Mar 5, 2013
Russian people support Stalin this is the fact.
Who cares about the opinion of western people?
This is our Russian leader, why those western chimps put their crooked noses into Russian business?

We respect our history, we are not going to hate our history and especialy such a great leader as Stalin.

If you are unhppy with it, you can kill yourselves.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#2 Mar 5, 2013
"Who cares about the opinion of western people?"

Hmmm...guess no one should care about YOUR opinion either then since you live in the west, right? Pin-head! You make this all too easy!.....lol

Since: Nov 09

Podolsk, Russia

#3 Mar 5, 2013
Why don`t you read the article?
The majority of Russian people support Stalin and these numbers have grown since 1994.

So I suppose that in a decade 90 % of Russian people will support Stalin.

And why is your anti Stalin propoganda then?

Since: Feb 08

Yamashitacho, Japan

#4 Mar 5, 2013
Stalin Was Japan's Puppet

http://park.geocities.jp/jpcdebate/0103/p032....

Russians! Don't be deceived by fake politicians like Putin.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#5 Mar 5, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
Why don`t you read the article?
The majority of Russian people support Stalin and these numbers have grown since 1994.
So I suppose that in a decade 90 % of Russian people will support Stalin.
And why is your anti Stalin propoganda then?
That's not what I said is it? I said since you live in the west your opinion doesn't count since you don't care what people in the west think. YOU live in the west moron. Unless of course they moved Austria. So what YOU say means nothing by your own words! Take a reading comprehension course.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#6 Mar 5, 2013
fukuda wrote:
Stalin Was Japan's Puppet
http://park.geocities.jp/jpcdebate/0103/p032....
Russians! Don't be deceived by fake politicians like Putin.
Names Koba and Kato also have a meaning in estonian and finnish languages, but I wouldn't claim that Stalin was an estonian spy.

Koba / kobakäpp = clumsy, butter-fingers
Kato / kadu = failure, depletion, disappearance

Sassiko = Sassike (uncommon)
Mariko = Merike (common name)

And did you notice how many Russian generals in the Russo-Japanese War were either from Estonia or Finland?
It was a conspiracy, no doubt ;-)
East Asian Cars

Podgorica, Montenegro

#7 Mar 5, 2013
Estonia is garbage.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#9 Mar 5, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
Russian people support Stalin this is the fact.
Who cares about the opinion of western people?
This is our Russian leader, why those western chimps put their crooked noses into Russian business?
We respect our history, we are not going to hate our history and especialy such a great leader as Stalin.
If you are unhppy with it, you can kill yourselves.
Stalin saved Russia twice.
First by putting a term to the Revolution when in stepped to power in 1927 to stabilise the country. He eliminated the Trostyist tendency that wanted a permanent revolution.
Then during WWII, as a leader when he inspired the people to resist the invaders and sacrifice themselves to defeat the NAZIs.
Stalingrad and Kursk can be considered to be among the greatest battles of the 20th century.
Jewish-Anglo Pact

Podgorica, Montenegro

#10 Mar 5, 2013
Robespierre wrote:
<quoted text>
Stalin saved Russia twice.
First by putting a term to the Revolution when in stepped to power in 1927 to stabilise the country. He eliminated the Trostyist tendency that wanted a permanent revolution.
Then during WWII, as a leader when he inspired the people to resist the invaders and sacrifice themselves to defeat the NAZIs.
Stalingrad and Kursk can be considered to be among the greatest battles of the 20th century.
Hitler triede to SAVE Germany from Satanic Jew.

Look your nation now.....you tell me who won WW2?

The Jew!!!

Jews created Napoleonic Wars, WW1, WW2,..
Jews were controling USA, British and French Empire and USSR.

Jews created WW2 and won.....World War 2 was Great Jewish victory.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#11 Mar 5, 2013
Robespierre wrote:
<quoted text>
Stalin saved Russia twice.
First by putting a term to the Revolution when in stepped to power in 1927 to stabilise the country. He eliminated the Trostyist tendency that wanted a permanent revolution.
Then during WWII, as a leader when he inspired the people to resist the invaders and sacrifice themselves to defeat the NAZIs.
Stalingrad and Kursk can be considered to be among the greatest battles of the 20th century.
Stalingrad was a waiting game in which the USSR won because they knew that Hitler was playing a fools games and would not admit to a mistake in military judgement. Kursk?.....The USSR had the total battle plan and still almost lost. So much for that. Had Hitler listened to Manstien there would not have even been a battle of Kursk and the USSR would have lost the war in a matter of months. Yes I know, you will come back with some BS but to no avail it is tried and true and has been played out in every war game scenario and the answer is always the same. Strictly by the numbers.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#12 Mar 5, 2013
Jewish-Anglo Pact wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler triede to SAVE Germany from Satanic Jew.
Look your nation now.....you tell me who won WW2?
The Jew!!!
Jews created Napoleonic Wars, WW1, WW2,..
Jews were controling USA, British and French Empire and USSR.
Jews created WW2 and won.....World War 2 was Great Jewish victory.
Keep your anti-semitism to yourself.

Decent people don't buy it.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#13 Mar 5, 2013
SWG wrote:
<quoted text>
Stalingrad was a waiting game in which the USSR won because they knew that Hitler was playing a fools games and would not admit to a mistake in military judgement. Kursk?.....The USSR had the total battle plan and still almost lost. So much for that. Had Hitler listened to Manstien there would not have even been a battle of Kursk and the USSR would have lost the war in a matter of months. Yes I know, you will come back with some BS but to no avail it is tried and true and has been played out in every war game scenario and the answer is always the same. Strictly by the numbers.
You can try to underplay Stalingrad and Kursk as much as you want.
They were great Soviet victories, obtained a huge cost to defeat the German invaders. Both were watersheds in WWII and determined the outcome of the conflict.

There is no if or but in history, and the Soviet Union came out victorious under the command of Stalin, probably the greatest contributor to Hitler's defeat.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#14 Mar 5, 2013
Robespierre wrote:
<quoted text>
You can try to underplay Stalingrad and Kursk as much as you want.
They were great Soviet victories, obtained a huge cost to defeat the German invaders. Both were watersheds in WWII and determined the outcome of the conflict.
There is no if or but in history, and the Soviet Union came out victorious under the command of Stalin, probably the greatest contributor to Hitler's defeat.
OK...no "IF" about it then. Had the US not fed and equipped the USSR AND the UK they would not have survived a year. An army needs more than bullets to win. The American Civil War ALONE proved that. Spin it. Just try to!

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#15 Mar 5, 2013
SWG wrote:
<quoted text>OK...no "IF" about it then. Had the US not fed and equipped the USSR AND the UK they would not have survived a year. An army needs more than bullets to win. The American Civil War ALONE proved that. Spin it. Just try to!
You contradict yourself. First in inflating the US influence in the Soviet war effort, then by telling us that ammunitions alone don't win wars. We know that.

Stalin was the ruler of the Soviet Union. Because he was ruthless and uncompromising, he inspired his country to resist the NAZI invasion first, and then to chase them and defeat them AT ALL COST, literally. His methods may be found extreme by many Westerners, but he saved his country and made it a superpower.
That cannot be said of many leaders.
Annie

London, UK

#16 Mar 5, 2013
Robespierre wrote:
<quoted text>
You contradict yourself. First in inflating the US influence in the Soviet war effort, then by telling us that ammunitions alone don't win wars. We know that.
Stalin was the ruler of the Soviet Union. Because he was ruthless and uncompromising, he inspired his country to resist the NAZI invasion first, and then to chase them and defeat them AT ALL COST, literally. His methods may be found extreme by many Westerners, but he saved his country and made it a superpower.
That cannot be said of many leaders.
He killed more of his own people than nazis. The fact they worship him in Russia as a hero now just goes to show how much of a myth he created.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#17 Mar 5, 2013
Annie wrote:
<quoted text>
He killed more of his own people than nazis. The fact they worship him in Russia as a hero now just goes to show how much of a myth he created.
The Nazis killed 26 millions of Soviet citizen and soldiers in less than 4 years.
Stalin was in power from 1927 to 1953, from a period towards the end of the civil war, covering the economic reforms of the 30s, the pre-war purges, the post war retributions, etc...
Not all death can be attributed to him, but some put them at 60 millions.
I am not sure these figures are realistic.
That would put the total number of casualties in the USSR between 1927 and 1956 at 86 millions.
Frankly, I doubt that the Soviet Union lost that many people, and I even suspect that the figures for war casualties were inflated.
Only my opinion...

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#19 Mar 5, 2013
Alexey25 wrote:
Russian people support Stalin this is the fact.
Who cares about the opinion of western people?
This is our Russian leader, why those western chimps put their crooked noses into Russian business?
We respect our history, we are not going to hate our history and especialy such a great leader as Stalin.
If you are unhppy with it, you can kill yourselves.
Perhaps people are thinking back to a time when outsiders couldn't meddle in Russian affairs. And it is up to the Russian people to decide how they feel about their history.

I think you have a point there. Westerners did not live through what Russians lived through and they can't understand the complicated feelings people who did have.

And you are also right that it is not up to the west to tell people in Russia how they should feel about anything.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#20 Mar 5, 2013
SWG wrote:
"Who cares about the opinion of western people?"
Hmmm...guess no one should care about YOUR opinion either then since you live in the west, right? Pin-head! You make this all too easy!.....lol
Where he lives doesn't matter. You don't know enough about him to know where he is coming from and you don't even know where he lives for sure so stop making idiotic snap judgements.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#21 Mar 5, 2013
fukuda wrote:
Stalin Was Japan's Puppet
http://park.geocities.jp/jpcdebate/0103/p032....
Russians! Don't be deceived by fake politicians like Putin.
Putin is looking out for Russia as he should be. And he is a far better politician than those like Boris Yeltsin who kissed western asses and made the people of Russia suffer listening to bad advice.

Go Putin, Go Russia!!!

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#23 Mar 5, 2013
Robespierre wrote:
<quoted text>
Stalin saved Russia twice.
First by putting a term to the Revolution when in stepped to power in 1927 to stabilise the country. He eliminated the Trostyist tendency that wanted a permanent revolution.
Then during WWII, as a leader when he inspired the people to resist the invaders and sacrifice themselves to defeat the NAZIs.
Stalingrad and Kursk can be considered to be among the greatest battles of the 20th century.
Nobody is all bad or all good. Strong leadership was needed in WWII, and Stalin was smart enough to let the Generals take care of the war. I would imagine Russians think back to WWII and their great victory with nostalgia. Nobody else was going to save them but Russians themselves.

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