Armenian authorities will never agree to Turkey's co-chairmanship in OSCE Minsk Group

Major events of the past week were the responses of various Armenian political parties to external factors, particularly to the statements of Turkish officials, and several political parties' assessment of the state budget of Armenia for the year of 2010.

[mumtaz]

No need to talk too much,get out from Karabag,open borders .That is it.
Then pray to god that,you have a neigbour like Turkey.

[Tsukiahi]

no thanks, we were once citizen of Turkey and look how you guys treat us before.

mumtaz wrote:

No need to talk too much,get out from Karabag,open borders .That is it.
Then pray to god that,you have a neigbour like Turkey.

[mumtaz]

Tsukiahi wrote:

no thanks, we were once citizen of Turkey and look how you guys treat us before.
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Yes you were good citizen but ,when you feel ottoman is weak,you belive Russia and dear murder Tasnaks start masacres in ottoman land.If you want i can give addresses of Turkish massgraves.Massgraves means genocide.You have to appologize from Turkey.
But this time ,dont belive any body.

[Tsukiahi]

why do you think Dashnak group developed in first place??!! have you ever bother to ask yourself why??

mmm lets see, how many times Turkish people attacked villages, killed, destroyed life stuck, kidnapped Armenians,raping,stealing what ever there was, I am talking about way before 1915.

that goes for Kurdish people also, they were not blameless either

do you think my great GGGGGG Fathers and Mothers would fold their hands and do nothing, in order to save their lifs, to protect themselves and their families from so call Turkish citizens.

you keep forgetting something, we were minorities

mumtaz wrote:

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Yes you were good citizen but ,when you feel ottoman is weak,you belive Russia and dear murder Tasnaks start masacres in ottoman land.If you want i can give addresses of Turkish massgraves.Massgraves means genocide.You have to appologize from Turkey.
But this time ,dont belive any body.

[mumtaz]

Dear Tsukiahi:

''do you think my great GGGGGG Fathers and Mothers would fold their hands and do nothing, in order to save their lifs, to protect themselves and their families from so call Turkish citizens.''

This is important.

''do you think my great GGGGGG Fathers and Mothers would fold their hands and do nothing, in order to save their lifs, to protect themselves and their families from Russia organized Tasnak murders''

Your problem is ,you dont know starting point.

[Fair Dinkum]

Tsukiahi wrote:

why do you think Dashnak group developed in first place??!! have you ever bother to ask yourself why??
mmm lets see, how many times Turkish people attacked villages, killed, destroyed life stuck, kidnapped Armenians,raping,stealing what ever there was, I am talking about way before 1915.
that goes for Kurdish people also, they were not blameless either
do you think my great GGGGGG Fathers and Mothers would fold their hands and do nothing, in order to save their lifs, to protect themselves and their families from so call Turkish citizens.
you keep forgetting something, we were minorities
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These points you're making have been raised many times before, but as they're not yet in their instruction booklets, these clowns can't answer them.

They're waiting for the new issue of their instruction booklets from Ankara.

[Tsukiahi]

yes, I can see what you mean, the problem is even when they receive
their instruction booklets from Ankara they would still argue and debate with it, as far as who wrote it :):)

Fair Dinkum wrote:

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These points you're making have been raised many times before, but as they're not yet in their instruction booklets, these clowns can't answer them.
They're waiting for the new issue of their instruction booklets from Ankara.

[Dardanelli]

Fair Dinkum wrote:

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These points you're making have been raised many times before, but as they're not yet in their instruction booklets, these clowns can't answer them.
They're waiting for the new issue of their instruction booklets from Ankara.

No ,we do not need anything at all but if you able to read the following link it describes the situation and mentioning you massacres in Van.

http://www.gomidas.org/gida/index_and_%20docu...

[mumtaz]

Tsukiahi :
Armenia has no way!!There is only one hope for Armenians ,that is Turkey.!!

There is no way !!

[Fair Dinkum]

Dardanelli wrote:

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No ,we do not need anything at all but if you able to read the following link it describes the situation and mentioning you massacres in Van.
http://www.gomidas.org/gida/index_and_%20docu...

This supports our argument. Thanks.

[Dardanelli]

Fair Dinkum wrote:

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This supports our argument. Thanks.

really? mentioning you massacred kurds in Van and they did similar to you and relocation was surely necessary.

[Dander]

No need to discuss anything with these young turk fossils for they were instructed to eliminate all Christians of Anatolia ONE WAY OR OTHER.
That is why they even got rid of the Christian TURKIC KARAMANLI.
Unless they can explain this to the World they have no place within the civilised nations.
And Their insistence on DENIAL Should be returned to them in kind by reminding them their presence in the Christian countries.
Remember; Christians are gone, now they target the others; ALEVIS AND KURDS.

[Fair Dinkum]

Dardanelli wrote:

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really? mentioning you massacred kurds in Van and they did similar to you and relocation was surely necessary.

What a bunch of f..ing dick heads you are! Do you think you are the first one to "dicover" this report? First of all it's sourced from an Armenian database. Secondly, it has been known for decades to us and world historians. Yet you morons, who have been kept in the dark and fed bullshit by your successive governments for the past 94 years, you're just being exposed to the truth, you come forward and deny the historic facts. What was the reason behind the so-called Armenian rebellion?

Go study and don't come back. d/head.

[Fair Dinkum]

Dander wrote:

No need to discuss anything with these young turk fossils for they were instructed to eliminate all Christians of Anatolia ONE WAY OR OTHER.
That is why they even got rid of the Christian TURKIC KARAMANLI.
Unless they can explain this to the World they have no place within the civilised nations.
And Their insistence on DENIAL Should be returned to them in kind by reminding them their presence in the Christian countries.
Remember; Christians are gone, now they target the others; ALEVIS AND KURDS.

You're quite right. We're whipping dead donkeys when it comes to these denialists.

[mumtaz]

Dear stupid ,son of bitch Dander:

Go and talk with Karamanlis ,if he and others want to come back Turkey,they wellcome.

Alevies are pure Turk.And Muslim.Some Kurdish alevies also.If you go to their houses you will see a very big Ataturk pictures.

Kurds in Turkey,have political party,and their party works,they are in Parliament.They have their representatives,parties.

Simdi gelelim ananin amina:
Dander,tespih cek,rahatlarsin.
''SIKILMIS GOTUN DAVASI OLMAZ''

[Fair Dinkum]

mumtaz wrote:

Dear stupid ,son of bitch Dander:
Go and talk with Karamanlis ,if he and others want to come back Turkey,they wellcome.
Alevies are pure Turk.And Muslim.Some Kurdish alevies also.If you go to their houses you will see a very big Ataturk pictures.
Kurds in Turkey,have political party,and their party works,they are in Parliament.They have their representatives,parties.
Simdi gelelim ananin amina:
Dander,tespih cek,rahatlarsin.
''SIKILMIS GOTUN DAVASI OLMAZ''

Does this say anything to your dried out pea size brain?

06-11-2009

Brussels - On November 19 Alevi organizations organize a conference on the ‘Dersim genocide of 1937-1938’ and the massacres against Alevis in Turkey. The meeting is hosted by the leftwing EU parliamentary group EUL/NG. The conference comes after the first visit to Dersim by the Turkish president Abdullah Gul.

The goal of the conference is to give more attention to the position of the Alevi in Turkey. The organizers says the rights Alevi, Kurds and Armenians were ignored since the foundation of the Turkish republic.“Alevi’s and Kurds are deprived of democratic constitutional rights”. The organizations want to ‘stop assimilation of Alevi’s’ and the recognition of Alevi rights in Turkey.

According to the organizers between 12.000 and 70.000 people were massacred in the Kurdish Alevi province of Dersim by the Turkish government in 1937-38.

Members of Alevi organizations, EU MPS, academics, journalists will participate in the conference, including witnesses of the ‘Dersim genocide’. Participants are Oral Çal&#305;&#351;lar, Derya Sazak, Do&#287;u Ergil, Faik Bulut, Erdo&#287;an Ayd&#305;n, Ufuk Uras, &#350;erafettin Halis, Kemaml Bülbül, Aysel Tu&#287;luk, Mehmet Bayrak, Yeter Gültekin and Sema Kaygusuz.

On 5 November President Abdullah Gül visited Tunceli (Dersim) and faced several demands of local NGO's reported Bianet.org , such as to stop the construction of dams, to reform the 'Cem' houses and the Department of Religious Affairs, to release 86-year-old Yusuf Kaplan, to apologize for what happened in 1938 and to disclose the grave of rebel leader Seyit R&#305;za.

Alevis are an unorthodox, liberal branch of Islam. Mainly Sunni Muslim Turkey is home to at least 15 million Alevis among a population of around 70 million. In a country where most Muslims are Sunni, many Alevis complain they feel like second-class citizens and face discrimination. Last year a similar conference on the ‘Dersim genocide’ was organized in the EU parliament on 13 November

[Dander]

Mumtaz the yalaka pezevenk
Karamanli says;
Our land anatolia is infested with creatures like mumtaz and they are no different if not worse than the ones who hated us Christians and everyone else who did not fit the turk-islam description and decided to eliminate them.
They are still carrying on with the same mentality and still denying their evil ways even the ones they comitted only yesterday.
Even their words of wisdom carries their trade mark of genocidal behaviour as they know no other way.

[vahe]

Dardanelli wrote:

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really? mentioning you massacred kurds in Van and they did similar to you and relocation was surely necessary.

Your government murders it's Muslem Kurds by day & night, why? Because they want to have their own state.
Tell us Mr. Turkey guy, Why should Israel which is non-Islamic & a very tiny country, give away her lands to the Plestinians, but Turks who happen to live on stolen lands get a license to kill their own Kurdish minority?

[vahe]

mumtaz wrote:

Dear stupid ,son of bitch Dander:
Go and talk with Karamanlis ,if he and others want to come back Turkey,they wellcome.
Alevies are pure Turk.And Muslim.Some Kurdish alevies also.If you go to their houses you will see a very big Ataturk pictures.
Kurds in Turkey,have political party,and their party works,they are in Parliament.They have their representatives,parties.
Simdi gelelim ananin amina:
Dander,tespih cek,rahatlarsin.
''SIKILMIS GOTUN DAVASI OLMAZ''

Kurds want to have their own independent state just like the Palestinians. Why are you Turks murdering them instead of giving them land & independence? Aren't they muslemans like you are?

[just a guy i knew]

Tsukiahi wrote:

no thanks, we were once citizen of Turkey and look how you guys treat us before.
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You were citizens of Ottoman Empire,not Turkey.