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kosovogirl wrote:
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it is not called "Albanian civilization" but maybe Illyrian Civilization Albanians did not make illyrians but illyrians made Albanians, Albanians are the children of illyrians, and illyrians are your parents, so get your facts right.
Until about the fifteenth century they were not called Albanians but Illyrians, or even Macedonians.

Source: Congressional Edition, volume 5867, by United States Congress, page 14
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AXIL wrote:
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Cite your sources!
Please provide scholarly based peer-reviewed research to verify this claim.
The Albanians: An Ethnic History from Prehistoric Times to the Present

By Edwin E. Jacques
Page 90

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page 91

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page 50

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The Balkans consisted of Epirus, Mollosia, Macedonia, Illyria, shqiperia, arber, pelasgian and thrace , all speaking arbenesh (the Albanian of today)

A short time ago when American archeologist excavated the site of the capital city of Pela, they found no trace of the Greek language or culture, only that of Arbenesh, of the thrace-illyrian, the modern Albanian.

The Greeks could not speak Arbenesh, which is one of the reasons Alexander and his commander-in-chief, Klitos, the son of King Bardhylli of Illyria, did not recruit them into his army of conquest.

It would have been impossible for them to understand any order given under the circumstances.

Also, the Greeks of that time were not a free people, being subjugated Phillip, Alexander’s father hence, they were not trusted by either of them.

Reference page 35

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30538382/Albanian-A...
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The entire Macedonia, a country with great political ideals and ruler of the world in the times of Alexander the Great, had had in ancient times a Pelasgian population (Justinus, lib. VII. 1. 1).
Macedo, the national patriarch of Macedonia, appears in the ancient genealogy of the peoples from the Hem peninsula, as a descendant of Pelasg (Apollodorus, Bibl. lib. III. 8. 1). Herodotus also writes that the Pelasgians who dwelt in the region of Pindus were called Macedoni (lib.I. 56).
The ancient populations of Illyria were of the same nationality as the Macedonians (Appianus, Bell. Mithr. 55). The various tribes of this region, Liburnii, Dalmatii, Iapozii, Dindarii, Brygii, Byllionii, Taulantii, Dasaretii, Ardieii, Dardanii, etc, had Pelasgian names, mores and traditions.
The so-called “barbara” Illyria was called Illyris Romana even since the time of Augustus.

http://www.pelasgians.org/website5/32_01.htm
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In the shadow of Olympus: the emergence of Macedon
By Eugene N. Borza 1992
Princeton University Press. Copyright.

Page 96
Both Herodotus and Thucydides describe the Macedonians as foreigners, a distinct people living outside of the frontiers of the Greek city-states"

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the aboriginal Macedonians were closely identified in speech, dress, and method of wearing their hair with the Illyrian tribes by the ancients

Anthropological essays presented to Edward Burnett Tylor in honour of his Page 297

Barbara W. Freire- Marreco - Social Science
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The historians' history of the world:
a comprehensive narrative of Volume 3

Henry Smith Williams - World history - 1907

Page 110

In the fashion of wearing the mantle and dressing the hair, and also in their dialect, the Macedonians bore a great resemblance to the Illyrians, whence it is evident that the Macedonians belonged to the Illyrian nation.

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Journal of the Ethnological Society of London, Volume 1

By Ethnological Society (London)

1869
Page 324

1.The Epirotes and Macedonians were, in Strabo's time, ungreek or barbarian.
2. Epirotes, Macedonians, and Illyrians are kindred races.
3. The Epirotes and Macedonians were the kernel of the TyrrhenoPelasgic race.
4. lllyrian=Pelasgian in a wider sense.

At p. 12, Von Hahn especially defines that the present divisions of the Albanians, the Tosks and Guegs, actually represent the Epirotes and Illyrians.

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we can all realize from knowledge from ancient history that the greeks always warred with their cities as their baners, illyrians and macedonians were different..

Macedonia was a country's name not a city name for example how the athenians fought for the city of athens...

if macedonia was considered a greek city state than the name macedonia would be a city at this point like athens is in greece..

just an opinion :D
but yeah i agree alexander the great was illyrian... thats why the turks(ottomans) named gjergj kastrioti SKENDERBEG, depicting his fighting skills after alexander the great..after his ancestors thas we know that alexander the great was illyrian just how gjergj kastrioti was.
BUT knowing greeks and their habit of stealing history and culture and making it theirs is kind of a buzzkill...
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Seriously he was Greek with some Illyrian blood through his mum
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Kosovogirl wrote:
Seriously he was Greek with some Illyrian blood through his mum
It is not true, what you say.

The ancient populations of Illyria were of the same nationality as the Macedonians (Appianus, Bell. Mithr. 55).

It is important note that the history books have not labeled Alexander Greek, and therefore he can only be Albanian. Albanian tribes are the earliest known to occupy northern Greece, and that allows Alexander only one nationality. Alexander did not have Albanian blood, he was an Albanian. To Albanians this fact seems very clear, for we have named our currency lek, after Leka I Madh.(Alexander the great)

The Barbaric war style of the Illyrians was deeply rooted in Alexander’s spirit, which is good reason for his expertise as a general and a conqueror.
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Aug 21, 2012
 
alexandri ishte katunar :p
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Of course Akexander the Great was Albanian. Most of the great warriors of that time living in the region where Abania is now were Albanians, because they are the stoutest warriors Of Europe . They rule other countries and fighr against their people and their mother. For instance eitheir the great turkish President Ataturk who built the modern Turky was albanian. Ali Pasha "The Lion of Yannina" was another great Albanian who protected Greece from Turkey and Greeks pretend that he was greek.
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Ditmitris wrote:
Of course Akexander the Great was Albanian. Most of the great warriors of that time living in the region where Abania is now were Albanians, because they are the stoutest warriors Of Europe . They rule other countries and fighr against their people and their mother. For instance eitheir the great turkish President Ataturk who built the modern Turky was albanian. Ali Pasha "The Lion of Yannina" was another great Albanian who protected Greece from Turkey and Greeks pretend that he was greek.
Dimitris, trust me I don't hate at all Greeks. They are many reasons which would take a long time to explain. What I would to say is that they are many things which are not told to Greek population. The information is been always censored and is been misused the sympathy that European countries had always for antic Greece.

But comes one day when the truth comes out. And this is valid for all aspects and not only for the History which concern this argument. I mean the actual situation in Greece.

However let's get back in Historical matter. I an Albanian (or anyone else) will say to you a truth that is been kept hidden for you, you hardly will believe it. Maybe is not the right comparison but it is alike as to say to someone "Your Mather is a bitch".

But when the information comes from greek sources ... there is no any argument left.

Here is an information from a Greek source. More exactly it is a censored Greek SKAI TV. Before watching keep in mind an other thing, a lot of facts are admitted but they are many other things that need to be admitted in an opportune time. But let's go "siga siga"
First watch this film then we are open to discuss if you are serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Let's live this discussion open.
greeks r whack

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Albanians r gonna take over the world. Very soon
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macemoonald wrote:
Albanian of corse, Alexander conquered the ancient greece
Greek of course. He had a Greek ethnicity, Greek roots in Argos, Greek doric language, Greek dodecatheism religion, Greek customs, etc. just like every other Macedonians. Everything about him and ancient Macedonia was Greek. And why did Sparta and Athens fight? Why did Thebes and Corinth fight? All Greek city states fought each other!!!

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Alexander the Great had a Macedonian father and an Illyrian mother. He had nothing to do with greeks.
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prishtina wrote:
Alexander the Great had a Macedonian father and an Illyrian mother. He had nothing to do with greeks.
Macedonian father + Epirot mother= 100% Greek you wannabe Illyrian stupid mongol gypsy.

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Macedonian father + Epirot mother= 100% Greek you wannabe Illyrian stupid mongol gypsy.
Go have a look in the mirror you orthodox Turk!

White Greeks have Albanian ancestry, and you`re not one of them!
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And Alexander the Great was ...albanian herow?? hahaha Not even Kastriotis, who lived 1800 years after Alexander, was not an Albanian herow but according his own words he was an Epirotian by the ancient Greek way and Albanian nad of cource Illurian!! At the period of Alexander the Great my friend, as it is known by the ancient Greek authors, the name Albania was found at the are of Caucasus and the fact that most of you are look like Caucasians, short, big ears , agly etc etc, it is not so weard!!! So let the Ortodox "Turks" bullshits and trid to find your past!! The Turks islamised by force or priveleges the other nations like the MAJORITY OF THE ALBANIANS and not the opposite. How could the ORTODOXS to Cristianised TURKS when they were slaves, YOU MORRON??????? Oh my Arvanite Greetings to Squipetars Turkalbanians like you!!

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