Somali Islamists cut off hands, feet of thieves

[Monk]

Abdi wrote:

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You're afraid to post the entire context which is what the typical Anti-Islamic websites do anyway yet with all the LIES and DISTORTIONS out there Islam still remains to be the fastest growing religion so much for your deceitful ways specially with your multiple names

No one here hates Islam. We hate Muslim extremists- Hamas, al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, Iran warmongers.
Effendi quotes from the Quran and you say they are cherry-picking, quoting out of context, using LIES AND
DISTORTIONS.
Because you don't explain your goals in Palestine or how
Israel will be changed, we suspect you as an extremist. That in no way means any of us hate Islam. We don't.

[Effendi]

Contemporary ... antisemitism began to be popularized two decades ago when the Egyptian writer Sayyid Ayyub started publishing works in Arabic maintaining that the Dajjal (Islamic Anti Christ) was already active on Earth, and that he was Jewish. Ayyub’s view was reiterated more recently by an Indian Muslim writer, Mohamad Yasin Owadally, who is convinced that “the Jews are waiting impatiently for the coming of Dajjal, their beloved king,” because:

"Zionists in their bloodthirsty lust for power are not satisfied with Palestine. In their arrogance, they openly admit that they want all Syria…Lebanon Jordan…Iraq…Iskenderun [former Alexandretta, in southwestern Turkey]…the Sinai…the Delta area of Egypt and the Upper Hejaz and Najd….They even want the holy Medinah ….Their main aim is to exterminate Islam"
Mohamad Yasin Owadally, Emergence of Dajjal. The Jewish King (Delhi, India, 2001)pp. 35-36.

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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You find yourself totally alone, so you think people conspire against you. 40For60 promotes intelligent, cogent discussion so you dismiss him as a conspirator.
Your whole case now rests on the 5 Dancing Israelis as
proof that Zionists were responsible for 9/11.
As others have suggested, quit trying to build support for Wake Up Project by creating hate for Zionists. You have
changed no ones mind here.

I came here alone in the first while you were clearly dependent on others infact some of your "support" is probably you trolling around with different nicks which is oldest trick on topix and like i said before you can choose to deny Zionist Israelis "documenting the 9/11 event" for all i care your EGO is your own problem not mines

[reality]

Just animals that should be shot

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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No one here hates Islam. We hate Muslim extremists- Hamas, al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, Iran warmongers.
Effendi quotes from the Quran and you say they are cherry-picking, quoting out of context, using LIES AND
DISTORTIONS.
Because you don't explain your goals in Palestine or how
Israel will be changed, we suspect you as an extremist. That in no way means any of us hate Islam. We don't.

I really could careless what he posts the fact of the matter is Islam will always SHINE through the lies and distortions even when the whole Zionist media is out to portray it in a negative light but what you keep ignoring and HIDING on who helped to CREATED those extremist groups that you consider to be an enemy?

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/080507...

So you don't "love" the ones who created the extremist groups huh? i'm DONE with you just go back to your usual rhetorics

[Monk]

Effendi wrote:

Contemporary ... antisemitism began to be popularized two decades ago when the Egyptian writer Sayyid Ayyub started publishing works in Arabic maintaining that the Dajjal (Islamic Anti Christ) was already active on Earth, and that he was Jewish. Ayyub’s view was reiterated more recently by an Indian Muslim writer, Mohamad Yasin Owadally, who is convinced that “the Jews are waiting impatiently for the coming of Dajjal, their beloved king,” because:
"Zionists in their bloodthirsty lust for power are not satisfied with Palestine. In their arrogance, they openly admit that they want all Syria…Lebanon Jordan…Iraq…Iskenderun [former Alexandretta, in southwestern Turkey]…the Sinai…the Delta area of Egypt and the Upper Hejaz and Najd….They even want the holy Medinah ….Their main aim is to exterminate Islam"
Mohamad Yasin Owadally, Emergence of Dajjal. The Jewish King (Delhi, India, 2001)pp. 35-36.

You add much to this discussion.
Israel has had many opportunities to annex some of the territory mentioned. Instead they have neutralized military threats to their existence and withdrawn.
There are about 15 million Jews in the world. Do they pose a threat to China, Russia or the US? Do they preach
world domination each Friday as the mullahs do in Iran?

Zionism is a strawman for anti-Semitic extremists. IMO

[Abdi]

Effendi wrote:

Contemporary ... antisemitism began to be popularized two decades ago when the Egyptian writer Sayyid Ayyub started publishing works in Arabic maintaining that the Dajjal (Islamic Anti Christ) was already active on Earth, and that he was Jewish. Ayyub’s view was reiterated more recently by an Indian Muslim writer, Mohamad Yasin Owadally, who is convinced that “the Jews are waiting impatiently for the coming of Dajjal, their beloved king,” because:
"Zionists in their bloodthirsty lust for power are not satisfied with Palestine. In their arrogance, they openly admit that they want all Syria…Lebanon Jordan…Iraq…Iskenderun [former Alexandretta, in southwestern Turkey]…the Sinai…the Delta area of Egypt and the Upper Hejaz and Najd….They even want the holy Medinah ….Their main aim is to exterminate Islam"
Mohamad Yasin Owadally, Emergence of Dajjal. The Jewish King (Delhi, India, 2001)pp. 35-36.

Keep posting those non sense but the signs are all there to see on who is ushering the NWO (New World Order) through secret soceities

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Effendi]

When the late 23 year-old Parisian Jew Ilan Halimi was being tortured to death in February 2006 "Ilan's uncle Rafi Halimi told reporters that the gang phoned the family on several occasions and made them listen to the recitation of verses from the Quran, while Ilan's tortured screams could be heard in the background." The Wall Street Journal

"One of the most troubling aspects of this affair is the probable involvement of relatives and neighbors, beyond the immediate circle of the gang, who were told about the Jewish hostage and dropped in to participate in the torture.

"Police searches have now revealed the presence of Islamist literature in the home of at least one of the gang members."

The Wall Street Journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1140644520218...

[Abdi]

Too many trolls with multiple names

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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You add much to this discussion.
Israel has had many opportunities to annex some of the territory mentioned. Instead they have neutralized military threats to their existence and withdrawn.
There are about 15 million Jews in the world. Do they pose a threat to China, Russia or the US? Do they preach
world domination each Friday as the mullahs do in Iran?
Zionism is a strawman for anti-Semitic extremists. IMO

You still couldn't provide an asnwer to a simple question that i had asked along time ago for what reason do you have in supporting Zionism is it...

A) Biblical scriptures?

Or

B) Holocaust?

Remember you're an Atheist and the Palestinians had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust! so what are your reasons?

[Monk]

Abdi wrote:

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I really could careless what he posts the fact of the matter is Islam will always SHINE through the lies and distortions even when the whole Zionist media is out to portray it in a negative light but what you keep ignoring and HIDING on who helped to CREATED those extremist groups that you consider to be an enemy?

Islam manages to shine through the LIES AND DISTORTIONS of Muslim extremists. That has been the major challenge for Islam since 9/11.

As President Bush said immediately after 9/11-

" The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself.
The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends. It is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them."

"The face of terrorist is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace, they represent evil and war. When we think of Islam, we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race, out of every race."

"America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. The Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads, and they need to be treated with respect."

Bin-Laden takes credit for 9/11. Muslims around the world
condemn Islamic extremists. The mullahs of Iran do not
speak for the world's Muslims. Islam will shine through.

[Monk]

Abdi wrote:

Too many trolls with multiple names

Who are the trolls with multiple names?
Your paranoia is running rampant.

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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Islam manages to shine through the LIES AND DISTORTIONS of Muslim extremists. That has been the major challenge for Islam since 9/11.
As President Bush said immediately after 9/11-
" The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself.
The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends. It is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them."
"The face of terrorist is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace, they represent evil and war. When we think of Islam, we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race, out of every race."
"America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. The Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads, and they need to be treated with respect."
Bin-Laden takes credit for 9/11. Muslims around the world
condemn Islamic extremists. The mullahs of Iran do not
speak for the world's Muslims. Islam will shine through.

Bush like most politicians don't practice what they preach infact he was caught LYING on when he knew about the attacks on the World Trade Center

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Ever since 9/11 occurred Osama was put on the side because he wasn't the "prime suspect" anymore...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Saddam who had NOTHING to do with 9/11 became the prime suspect Iraqi's resources became the "prime suspect"

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

How many times are you going to believe these LIES before you realize soon this can also be used to against you? already Americans who are concern for their Civil Liberties are label as "unpatriotic"

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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Who are the trolls with multiple names?
Your paranoia is running rampant.

Listen it's evident trolls roam around here but just answer a simple question which of the following reasons do you support Zionist Israel

A) Biblical scriptures?

Or

B) Holocaust?

It's time we stop looking at the "leaves" and start focusing on the ROOT of the tree

[Monk]

Abdi wrote:

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Bush like most politicians don't practice what they preach infact he was caught LYING on when he knew about the attacks on the World Trade Center
How many times are you going to believe these LIES before you realize soon this can also be used to against you? already Americans who are concern for their Civil Liberties are label as "unpatriotic"

I don't believe the lies and distortions of Muslim extremists. They say they are my enemy, threaten violence and take credit for 9/11. They do not represent
Islam and need to be eradicated like vermin.
By the way, I am not an atheist as you would like to think

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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I don't believe the lies and distortions of Muslim extremists. They say they are my enemy, threaten violence and take credit for 9/11. They do not represent
Islam and need to be eradicated like vermin.
By the way, I am not an atheist as you would like to think

Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't you oppose to religion? and about those extremist understand they were specifically created to be your "enemy" since they were radicalized for that condition but it seems only innocent Muslims are the ones being eradicated while Osama and Al Qaeda are giving free passage to escape everytime they're surrounded

The "War on Terror" was NEVER intended to be won it was design to INVADE other countries as a pretext and to also take away more of your civil liberties

Isn't that what's been happening ever since?

[Monk]

Abdi wrote:

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Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't you oppose to religion? and about those extremist understand they were specifically created to be your "enemy" since they were radicalized for that condition but it seems only innocent
The "War on Terror" was NEVER intended to be won it was design to INVADE other countries as a pretext and to also take away more of your civil liberties
Isn't that what's been happening ever since?

I've never been opposed to any religion. I have friends and acquaintances who are Mulims, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus. All of them are fine American citizens.

We've discussed where terrorist groups came from.
We had alliances with al-Qaeda and the Taliban against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Now we hunt and kill them because they attacked us on 9/11 and other places.

Saddam Hussein was our ally against Iran and then we hung him for threatening the region, namely Kuwait.

We supported Hamas against the PLO. Now we talk with
the Palestinian Authority because Hamas attacks Israel.

Alliances are made to be broken. That should give you hope for driving a wedge between the US and Israel- your main agenda here.

But Muslim extremists are the real enemy, not only for the
US. Russia fights them, China fights them, Indonesia fights them, plus Europe and Africa. Muslim extremists, not Jews or Zionists vow to exterminate the "Western infidels" and spread radical Islam to the whole world.

If it looks like a goat and smells like a goat, it's Osama bin Laden, clear and simple.

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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I've never been opposed to any religion. I have friends and acquaintances who are Mulims, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus. All of them are fine American citizens.
We've discussed where terrorist groups came from.
We had alliances with al-Qaeda and the Taliban against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Now we hunt and kill them because they attacked us on 9/11 and other places.
Saddam Hussein was our ally against Iran and then we hung him for threatening the region, namely Kuwait.
We supported Hamas against the PLO. Now we talk with
the Palestinian Authority because Hamas attacks Israel.
Alliances are made to be broken. That should give you hope for driving a wedge between the US and Israel- your main agenda here.
But Muslim extremists are the real enemy, not only for the
US. Russia fights them, China fights them, Indonesia fights them, plus Europe and Africa. Muslim extremists, not Jews or Zionists vow to exterminate the "Western infidels" and spread radical Islam to the whole world.
If it looks like a goat and smells like a goat, it's Osama bin Laden, clear and simple.

So you have no problem in creating, radicalizing, and funding terrorist groups aslong as they're not fighting you? listen there is no way you're going to sit there and tell me that 19 individuals brought the U.S down all by themselves! not only is it ILLOGICAL but it's a huge DISRESPECT to the country you "love" seriously what are you afraid of? you think governments never conducted terrorist attacks before against their own populations? Hitler did it during the Reichstag Fire inwhich he passed a similar LAW kind of like the Patriot Act and it's well known the Nazis were FUNDED and SUPPORTED by the Neo-cons and Zionist in washington today once they had used Germans to sacrifice the Jews for the creation of Zionist Israel they moved to U.S and took full control of it this maybe hard to swallow but your policitians regardless of their party affiliates hold their allegiance to Zionism and NOT the U.S Constitution!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/u...

You can assume all you want about how i'm creating a "wedge" but it's evident that even Zionist get upset when Americans think they're "not" in control of their country

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentar...

"I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."

Those words are NOT by me or anyone else but by the mouth of Zionist themselves and if you think otherwise write him a letter indicating your reasons but we both know the truth

Hollywood is the MAIN reason why the family structure in America has deteriorated to the point where gay marriage is on the rise while civil liberties and family values are on the decline

[Abdi]

Monk wrote:

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I've never been opposed to any religion. I have friends and acquaintances who are Mulims, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus. All of them are fine American citizens.
We've discussed where terrorist groups came from.
We had alliances with al-Qaeda and the Taliban against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Now we hunt and kill them because they attacked us on 9/11 and other places.
Saddam Hussein was our ally against Iran and then we hung him for threatening the region, namely Kuwait.
We supported Hamas against the PLO. Now we talk with
the Palestinian Authority because Hamas attacks Israel.
Alliances are made to be broken. That should give you hope for driving a wedge between the US and Israel- your main agenda here.
But Muslim extremists are the real enemy, not only for the
US. Russia fights them, China fights them, Indonesia fights them, plus Europe and Africa. Muslim extremists, not Jews or Zionists vow to exterminate the "Western infidels" and spread radical Islam to the whole world.
If it looks like a goat and smells like a goat, it's Osama bin Laden, clear and simple.

By the way before we go any further if you're not an Atheist then what do you believe in?

[Stewart Cameron]

abdi am a american working in the london and I must say u are a F*king american patriot who understand what america is supossed to be and how its undermined by the like of zionist israelis who are not jews.

the quote you gave about olmert calling like a dog bush makes me angery as son of the american soil who his forfather fight in the confedrate army(I can`t justify it or condem, histroy is histroy and I choose heritage over hate) and my forfather fight in the spanish american war,world 1 , world 2, vietnam war none on in my family foughtin first gulf war and now my 21 year old sons is fight in afghanistan(may god protect him) these non american(people who have foreign allegiance but yet claim americaness) are underming the land of the free and home of the brave.

man you are patriote abdi I tottalty agree with you on the immigration issue.

what I love about you somalis is(have notice their is a large somali community in london) you don`t bulshit you look a man in the eyes and say "yeah am a american citizen and I will fight for america but the moment america messes with my natieve land somalia I will honourply hand in my citiceship so you you know you can`t dependend on me"

that honesty right their unlike people like joe lieberman who waves the american flag yet votes against america in the senate just like his buddies in the bush administration.

the two people who are arguing with have clearly agendas that is ouside the realm of american intrest.
we american have been viictim for the past 8 years of these people who have ancient issues with muslims, we american are a young nation who don`t have that burdon upon us.
they want to make muslims seem like atreat to america lool
we american have strongest millitry
the largest economy
culutural ehegomony
what can al qaued ado to us or hamas?

moroco and ottoman empire where once of the first states to reqonise america back in 17776 we will not forget that.

america and islam are friend and may god bless you abdi as american patriot and a muslim


israel supporters should just move to israel if they love israel so much.

we anglo saxon and african american sons of the american soil will not bleed for israel we REFUSE to be lied to another war by zionist (my son will not fight for israel when it comes to iran.)

hamas israel problem
hizbollah is israel problem
iran is israel problem

america has to worry about al qaueda

even jewish american are turning against the zionist state of israel its spreading anti semitism against the jews people who are law abiding american cistisen.
http://www.jstreet.org/



we america will exnted a hand if you unclench your fist"
abdi america does not have perment enemies these forein advocater of other nations intrest witing america want to make us believe that muslims are our mortal enemie
to quote a key american hostoric way of going about foreighn policy has alwayes been in a pragamatic way and here is a quote

"america has not perment enemies" remember japan,germany,vietnam,
http://www.america.gov/st/texttrans-english/2...
Gaal wa gaal
but these people want to make muslims the boogy man they want to make it a permenent enemy of america which is ridiculous and un american as I have cleary shown you in the quote I gave you.
inadeer......