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Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#37016 Feb 16, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Why does there have to be a Lord of the black stone ?
Nothing creates itself, there is a Creator for every thing and He is the Lord of every thing.

Black stone is also one of His creations, howsoever small or big it might be.

So Allah is Lord of Black Stone as He is Lord of Biggest star or planet in this Universe.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#37017 Feb 16, 2013
My Journey from Christianity to Islam – By Capt.(R ) M.A. Ondigo- Part-

Islam: A simple, perfect and natural way of life:

As I studied Islam, it became clear that it is perfect and natural way of life, one that is simple and practical.

It addresses all human affairs and its teachings and doctrines are easy to understand, logical and not contradictory or too complicated for a layman to understand. Islam combines both faith and reason together.

“So set your face steadily and truly to the faith, Allah’s handiwork, according to the pattern in which He has made humankind (FITRAH)”(30:30)

“This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you and have chosen Islam as your religion”(5:3)

Abu Hurairah narrated that prophet Mohammad, peace be on him, said “Islam is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way, so you should not be extremists, but try to be moderate …”

Abu Hurairah narrated that prophet Mohammad, peace be on him, said “every child is born with a true faith of Islam (That is, to worship none but Allah alone) and his parents convert him to Judaism or Christianity or Magianism. As an animal delivers a perfect baby animal: do you find it mutilated”?

All praise be to Allah Almighty who not only guided me to Islam, but also guided my both of my elderly parents, all my brothers, my sister and their families. Had it not been for His Grace and Mercy we would not be Muslims. And our last words are in accordance to the words of Allah:

“Praise be to Allah, who has guided us to this (felicity): never could we have found guidance, had it not been for the guidance of Allah”(7:43)

“Our Lord! Let not our hearts deviate now after You have guided us, but grant us mercy from your Own presence; for You are the Granter of bounties without measure”(3:8)

“Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error, Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which You did lay on those before us; Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us forgiveness, Have Mercy on us, You are our Protector, help us against those who stand against faith”(2:286)

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#37018 Feb 16, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_04_D...

Returning to the Islamicized Abraham, Ibn Ishaq tells us: Tabari II:52 "Then Abraham returned to his father Azar, having seen the right course. He had recognized his Lord." Actually, all he had done was recognize who his Lord wasn't And while that may sound picky, that's all Muhammad really did. Ultimately, he promoted the largest of the Meccan rock idols, Allah, and denounced the rest. "He was free of the religion of his people, but he did not tell them that." This, too, is revisionism for the sake of Muhammad. Allah’s Messenger kept quiet about his first "revelation" for several years.

One of the most repetitive and damning indictments in the Qur'an comes from the Meccans. They recognized that Muhammad’s notion of casting the smaller Ka'aba idols aside so that the largest idol could be feared as the one true god was lunacy. A big stone was no more god than a bunch of little ones. Ishaq:38 "Every house had an idol. When Allah sent Muhammad with the message of monotheism, the Quraysh said:'Would he make many gods into one god? This is a strange thing.'" So Muhammad, ever in character, changed the story of the great Hebrew patriarch Abraham to make his behavior seem inspired.

This sorry tale is chronicled in both the Hadith and Qur'an. Tabari II:55 "His father told him,'Abraham, we have a festival. If you go to it you will learn to like our religion.' The festival came and they went to it. On the way Abraham threw himself down and said,'I am sick. My foot hurts.' When they went away he called to the last of them.'I shall deal with your idols after you have gone away and turned your backs.' Abraham went to the house of the gods which was in a great hall. Opposite the entrance was a great idol, and at his side a smaller one, and next to him a smaller one, and so on." Too bad Allah didn't get out more. He would have known that in Abraham's day the Temple of Ur housed just one god - Sin - a masculine moon deity like himself. Unlike the Ka'aba, there weren't a bunch of rock idols lying around.

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#37020 Feb 16, 2013
The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:
History of the Arabs: Pre-Islamic Age of Jahiliyah

by I. Q. Rassooli

15 May, 2009

This is a term used extensively in Muslim Arab terminology which actually means “time of ignorance”; that is, ignorance of a revealed book, and hence the revelation of the unity and oneness of God. Before the advent of Muhammad, the Arabians had religious and social traditions that were later almost completely incorporated by him into Muhammadan theology with minimum if any modifications. Unlike the South Arabians who were a more urban group, the North Arabians of Najd and Al Hijaz, were mostly nomadic.

The sedentary populations of the above developed no ancient culture of their own. They had no system of writing and the only information about them comes from oral traditions, proverbs, legends and mostly poems that were orally transmitted down the decades. Most of these were later committed to writing two to three hundred years later (822/922 CE), that is two to four hundred years after the events that they were supposed to represent. It is a recorded historical fact that the North Arabians did not develop a system of writing until after the death of Muhammad c.635CE.

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#37022 Feb 16, 2013
The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:
Arabs before Islam…

The Arab tribes of the Jazeerah (Peninsula)– Christian, Pagan or ‘Jewish’– fought each other over the acquisition of water resources, over blood feuds and over supremacy. Each individual Arab was known and identified by the name of the tribe to which he belonged.

Although all the people of the peninsula were Arab, there was no such thing as a sense of unity or nationalism. Each tribe was a separate and independent entity, with different dialects and religious beliefs and had no feeling of affinity or loyalty to any other except in terms of mutually beneficial and convenient alliances. The sense of the ‘Umma al Arabia’, the nation and people of Arabia, was achieved only after all of Arabia was subjugated and united under Muhammad.

Social structure…

The Bedouin tribe (Qabilah) was organized in clans. The nucleus of the tribe was the tent (Khaymah) which represented a family; an encampment of tents formed a (Hayy). Members of one (Hayy) constituted a clan (Qawm). A number of kindred clans grouped together formed a tribe (Qabilah). The members of each clan are invariably blood-related.

The Bedouins are very democratic as far as their leadership is concerned. Only the wisest and most experienced of the clan members is elected leader (Sheikh); they are not hereditary. The leader is only primus inter pares; one among equals. His tenure in office lasted during the good will of his constituency. The name of each clan starts with the prefix Banu-, which means the children or descendants of. Tribal members share in common all pasturage, water and cultivable land; only the tent and its contents belong to the individual.

The Muslim state made full use of the tribal system for its military conquests and settlements purposes. The army was divided into divisions based on tribal affiliations to keep their cohesion and loyalty. The conquered territories were settled by tribes that treated the new converts from among the subjugated peoples as ‘clients’(Mawali).

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#37023 Feb 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Nothing creates itself, there is a Creator for every thing and He is the Lord of every thing.
Black stone is also one of His creations, howsoever small or big it might be.
So Allah is Lord of Black Stone as He is Lord of Biggest star or planet in this Universe.
How do you know this ?
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#37024 Feb 16, 2013
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#37025 Feb 16, 2013
Japan will help Indonesia in an Australian invasion soon .

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#37026 Feb 16, 2013
The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:
Religion…

In general, the pagan Arabs – the majority in Arabia – had a very primitive and simple astral and animistic religion of at least 360 gods and goddesses. Among the gods of the pagan Arabs, Allah was one of the most important. In Mecca, Allah was the principal though not the only deity. He had three daughters: Al Lat (Crescent); Al Uzzah (Venus) and Al Manah (Fate)(53:19/20). Besides the Ka’ba of Mecca, caves, trees, waterholes, wells, etc., were also venerated especially in a bleak, arid and desolate land as theirs. There were other ‘holy’ sites also called Ka’ba besides the one in Mecca, such as the ones in Petra, Sana’ and Najran.

The sun too was worshiped but not to the same level of importance as the moon. After all, Moon worship in general implies a nomadic and pastoral society, whereas Sun worship is invariably associated with an agricultural one. Most important of all is that in the scorching furnace heat of the Arabian Desert, the Sun is actually an enemy of the nomads depriving them of pasture, shade and water. On the other hand, the moon is their friend and ally providing them with light, coolness of the night, dew and shade; and this is reflected in its greater importance as a deity for them.

The pagan Arabs built no temples or special structures for their gods, unlike all the surrounding civilizations. They developed no elaborate mythology, no structured theology and no cosmogony comparable to that of any of their neighbours.

The pagan Ka’ba was a special but very simple cube-like building that housed a fallen black meteorite, which was venerated as a fetish. Because of its holiness, the area surrounding it was pronounced prohibited/sacred (Haram). Even before ‘Islam’, it was an object of annual pilgrimage and sacrifice.

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#37028 Feb 16, 2013
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Most of the ‘holy’ places of their other divinities were trees, wells, caves or fallen meteors. The pagan Arabs made sacrifices – both human and animal – to ‘Venus’(Al Uzzah) and it is recorded that Muhammad participated in giving sacrifices to this goddess as a young man. The Bedouins also believed that the desert was full of living creatures/spirits called Jinn whose purpose was to blight their lives with mischief and difficulties. Since nomadic people bury their dead on the move and hence have no special resting-places such as graveyards, they subsequently had no special reverence for their dead nor any concept of an afterlife, of resurrection, a day of judgment or heaven and hell; these came with ‘Islam’.

The pagan Arabian calendar was a lunar one. The first three months of its Spring season coincided with the period of ‘peace’: dhu-al-Qa’dah; dhu-al-Hijjah and Muharram. These were the months of ‘Holy Truce’ when the usually warring tribes laid aside their hatreds and warfare and concentrated on offering sacrifices to their pagan gods and visiting their ‘holy’ sites. The Ukaz Fair in this period was used to trade and recite poetry. In pre-Islamic days, the annual fairs of North Arabia were followed by a pilgrimage in dhu-al-Hijjah to the Ka’ba and mount Arafat. Almost every one of those primarily pagan rituals, fetishes and traditions was later – out of desperation and for convenience – incorporated by Muhammad in his own version of ‘Islam’.

The Arabian Peninsula harboured, besides the indigenous tribes who followed the traditions of the Jews and the Christians, were the Sabeans and the ‘Hanifs’ who were believers in the One and Only God of Abraham; these latter must have been off-shoots from either the ‘Jews’ or the Christians or both.

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#37030 Feb 16, 2013
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Culture…

Contrary to all of Arab propaganda and historical falsifications, there was no Arab civilization to speak of where Muhammad grew up. Civilization requires a central government, administrative personnel and documentation, cities, art, sculpture, temples and priesthood, an army, etc. These were totally lacking in his days. The Arabs of Mecca and Medina did not have any of these attributes; they left posterity no monuments or temples and no records of their achievements. They had absolutely nothing remotely resembling either the Byzantine or Persian civilizations.

Tribes on the move can never bring about a civilization, neither can an extremely hostile and impoverished land.

The Arabs of Al Jahilyah (before Muhammad), left almost nothing in writing. No national epic was ever developed by the Arabians and no dramatic work of first-class importance. This is in unfavourable contrast to the Hebrews, Assyrians, Babylonians or the Egyptians who had a much more advanced literary, written and oral traditions; the Arabs on the other hand had mostly their oral one. They were the least literate among the peoples of the Middle East. Their language was their greatest legacy.

The Bedouins’ love of poetry was their only cultural asset and legacy. Their poets were held with great esteem and were extremely influential because of their mastery of the spoken word. They acted as the historians, propagandists and spokesmen of their tribes. They were in fact the equivalent of the modern news media reporters.

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#37031 Feb 17, 2013
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Japan will help Indonesia in an Australian invasion soon .
Are you saying that Australia is going to invade Indonesia and Japan is going to support them ?

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#37032 Feb 17, 2013
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#37033 Feb 17, 2013
When Christians go to church they worship god and pray for the salvation of mankind and love of others.

I guess they do things a little differently in islam.

JAKARTA: A septuagenarian was almost lynched by villagers when he refused to withdraw his summons against the authorities on the use of a loudspeaker by a mosque at his village in Aceh.

Sayed Hasan, 75, was also threatened with expulsion from the village for his reluctance to apologise for his action.

The incident occurred at the Desa Gampong Jawa community hall in the small district of Kuta Raja, Banda Acheh on Friday, when a meeting between Sayed Hasan and local leaders, including Kota Banda Aceh deputy mayor Illiza Sa’aduddin Djamal, was in progress, reported Antara news agency.

The police, army and local authority enforcement personnel were on hand to diffuse the situation.

“Nevertheless, during the meeting, Sayed Hasan had stated he would withdraw the summons at the Banda Aceh District Court. His admission is backed by a signed written statement. He has also apologised to the villagers,” said Illisa.

He said, the people of Gampong Jawa were angry with Sayed Hasan who sued the local authority on the use of loudspeaker by the Al-Muchsinin Mosque to air ceramahs, or the reading of the Quran for 30 minutes before the muezzin’s call for the Magrib and Subuh prayers.

“This is the first case in Aceh and, strangely, Sayed Hasan’s house is situated far from the Al-Muchsinin Mosque.”

The case was tried at the Banda Aceh District Court since Feb 11.— Bernama

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#37034 Feb 17, 2013
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"Azar made a living making the idols which his people worshipped, and he employed Abraham to sell them. Abraham would call out,'Who will buy what will be of no use to him.' So they became unsellable. He would take them to the river and point their heads at it and say,'Drink.' mocking his people. At length his mocking spread about among the inhabitants of his town, although Nimrod did not hear of it. Then when the time seemed right to Abraham to reveal to his people the error of what they were doing, and to tell them of Allah’s command and of how to pray, he glanced up at the stars and said,'I feel sick.' They fled from him when they heard it, but Abraham had only said it to make them go away so that he could do what he wanted with their idols. When they left he went to the idols and brought them food. He said,'Will you not eat? What is the matter? Why do you not speak?' reproaching their falsely elevated position and mocking them."

If you've got one, open your Qur'an to the 37th surah. So as not to take Allah’s word out of context, let's read from the beginning, picking up the highlights as we go along. Seeing Allah as he really is will help elucidate the Islamic mystery. The peace-loving god tells his troops: "By those (angels) arranged in battle ranks who are strong in repelling and thus proclaim the Message of Allah! Verily, your Ilah (God) is one!" Thank god for small favors. Qur'an 37:6 "We have decked the lower heaven with stars to protect them against all rebellious evil spirits, and provide security from every forward devil. So they cannot listen to the highest chiefs for they are pelted from every side, repulsed; they are under a perpetual torment, being driven off. Except such as they snatch away something by stealth, but then they are pursued by a flaming fire of piercing brightness." In Islam, stars are used to guard against forward devils. The Islamic Ilah (God) named Allah would have us believe that he dissuades and torments "evil spirits" with physical objects.

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