Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

[yeah right]

About 140 million girls and women worldwide are living with the consequences of Female Genital Mutilation. In Africa, about 92 million girls age 10 years and above are estimated to have undergone FGM.

The practice is most common in the western, eastern, and north-eastern regions of Africa, in some countries in Asia and the Middle East, and among migrants from these areas.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs2...

[yeah right]

In Indonesia, in spite of being made ostensibly 'illegal' the practice of female genital mutilation is growing, most likely as a result of islamic spread.

"Though the Indonesian government banned female genital mutilation/cutting (FGM/C) four years ago, experts say religious support for the practice is more fervent than ever, particularly in rural communities."

http://www.irinnews.org/Report/90366/INDONESI...

[yeah right]

An Australian woman who was working in the UAE in a five star, "international" hotel was DRUGGED AND then RAPED in her room.

And then guess what happened? Can you guess?

SHE was put into PRISON after suffering injuries inflicted on her by these criminal muslims.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/03/alici...

[Sheilaa]

MUQ wrote:

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Forget about Obiter Dicta..
Where are the answers to the Question which I asked about Jesus being Son of God?
I have to show to you "what thin veil separates the present Unitarian Church from the Trinitarian Church"
You just do not become Unitarian because you chose your name as Unitarian, you become Unitarian when you have believe in Absolute Unity in the Person, in Power and Attributes of God. It is a Qualitative definition and not a mere show off.
PS:
And what you consider about our prophet is neither nor there. No one in their right mind would accept you as "an authority on Islam" and even your own religion for that matter.

All Unitarians believe that Jesus was one with God,-- in a spiritual sense; the sense in which he prayed (John 17: 21-23). Jesus believed and taught strict unitary monotheism. He had never heard of the Trinity
Jesus, the Son of God, is the perfect human reflection of the One God, his Father. But he is not God. He is the sinless second Adam and the "prophet to be raised up from the house of Israel" (Deut. 18:15-18). Created and begotten in the womb of his mother under the power of God's spirit, he is designated "Son of God" (Luke 1:35)

In relation to who or what the prophet was I am relying upon what is written in the koran not my own opinion. If you are unable to believe in what the koran says then that is your problem not mine

[yeah right]

90% of all violent rapes in Norway are committed by muslims.

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/0...

[yeah right]

Why do you hate Jews so very much? Your BFF Adolf Hitler had this to say:

'The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad.'— Adolf Hitler

You have so very much in common, after all.

[Sheilaa]

MUQ wrote:

Story of Prophet Joseph as given in Bible (Gen Chapter 37 to Chapter 50)and in Quran (Chapter 12)-
A comparative study- Part-22
Episode:
Joseph's preaching in the prison
Biblical Version
NIL
Quranic Version:
37 He said:“Before any food comes (in due course) to feed either of you, I will surely reveal to you the truth and meaning of this before it befall you. This is pert of (the duty) which my Lord has taught me. I have (I assure you) abandoned the ways of a people that believe not in God ant that (even) deny the hereafter.
38 “And I follow the ways of my fathers,- Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; and never could we attribute any partners whatever to God: that (comes) of the grace of God to us and to mankind: yet most men are not grateful.
39 “O my two companions of the prison!(I ask you): Are many lords differing amongst themselves better, or the One God, supreme and Irresistible?
40 “If not Him, you worship nothing but names which you have named,- You and your fathers,- for which God has sent down no authority: the command is for none but God; He has commanded that you worship none but him: that is the right religion, but most men understand not…
Remarks / Comments.
1 See how the Bible is Silent of the "Real" activities of a prophet of God wherever he may be.
2. Prophet Joseph sees a moment of advantage and gives the true guidance to his companions.
3. Now which version is matching with the dignity of prophets? Bible or Quran?

Remarks / Comments.
1 See how the Bible is Silent of the "Real" activities of a prophet of God wherever he may be.

A: The bible is not silent on the purpose of Joseph. He was used by God to continue his chosen line. God used the dreams of the two prisoners by giving Joseph the ability to interpret what they meant. This in turn brought him to the attention of the Pharoah

2. Prophet Joseph sees a moment of advantage and gives the true guidance to his companions.

A:Not true without God Joseph is nothing. As Joseph stated it is only God who is the interpreter of dreams, it wasn't Joseph. God used him for a purpose

3. Now which version is matching with the dignity of prophets? Bible or Quran?
A: The bible. Joseph by the way was not a prophet as you imply.

[Sheilaa]

ABC destroys Australia’s Middle East legacy
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Piers Akerman
Wednesday, November 21, 2012 (4:08am)


PRO-Palestine broadcaster ABC skips the facts when it covers the Gaza conflict.

Lateline presenter Emma Alberici didn’t mind giving the evil Hamas terrorists a leg-up when she permitted Arab propagandist Rami Khouri to take over her show almost uninterrupted.

Khouri, from the American University of Beirut’s Institute of Public Policy and International Affairs, told blatant untruths - and was unchallenged.

How about this whopper:“The Arabs have given the Israelis a peace plan and accepted to live with a Israeli state as it is now, predominantly a Jewish majority Israeli state.”

Totally false as anyone with the slightest interest in Middle East peace would know. The Arabs have not presented any peace plan that would support a predominantly Jewish majority state. Never have since Israel was created by the UN in 1948 only to face continuing Arab hostility.

That doesn’t bother the ABC though.

“We have given them a formal peace plan,” Khouri baldly stated. Total nonsense.

“We accept the legitimacy of an Israeli state.” Absolute garbage.

“We’re willing to live at peace with it.” Another monstrous lie.

“We’re willing to have normal relations with it.” Oh, yeah?

“They have not made that counter gesture to the Palestinians and I think the real political onus is more on the Israelis now than on the Arabs and they try to camouflage that with their exaggerated fears of security and their exaggerated response of militarism.” What utter bull.

As US President Barack Obama said on Monday about the current Gaza-Israel conflict:“Israel has every right to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory.”

“Let’s understand what the precipitating event here was that’s causing the current crisis, and that was an ever-escalating number of missiles. They were landing not just in Israeli territory, but in areas that are populated. And there’s no country on Earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders.”

“If we’re serious about wanting to resolve this situation and create a genuine peace process, it starts with no more missiles being fired into Israel’s territory, and that then gives us the space to try to deal with these longstanding conflicts that exist.”

Britain’s Foreign Secretary William Hague said:“We call on Hamas again to stop the rocket attacks on Israel. It is Hamas that bears, as, as I’ve said before, the principle responsibility for starting all of this and we would like to see an agreed cease fire, an essential component of which is an end to those rocket attacks.”

How did the ABC miss these world leaders’ views on the attacks, how did they get it so wrong?

No-one should be in any doubt about the real nature of Hamas and its military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades.

This is the message Hamas is broadcasting on its Al-Aqsa TV:“From the Al-Qassam Brigades to the Zionist soldiers: The Al-Qassam Brigades love death more than you love life.”

This is the standard taunt of Islamist murderers worldwide.

Up to Monday, more than 1,900 rockets and mortars had been fired at Israeli civilians from Gaza this year. More than three million Israelis live within range of rocket and mortar attacks.

In the area closest to the Gaza border where most rocket attacks occur there are more than 90 schools and 61 kindergartens.
To be continued

[Sheilaa]

All kindergartens and schools remain closed within a 40-kilometer radius of the Gaza border.

All residents within this area are urged to remain within a maximum 15 seconds from a bomb shelter or protected area – the time residents have to reach shelter once radar detects incoming projectiles and triggers air raid sirens.

Not for the first time, Israel is treating Gaza patients in its hospitals - 19 hospitals are located in the range of Hamas’ rockets.

By midday Monday, Hamas had launched at least 45 rockets into Israel.

More than 880 rockets and mortars have been fired from Gaza since the beginning of Operation Pillar of Defense.

Yet our ABC finds it more convenient to repeat the propaganda of a terrorist regime which is holding reporters hostage and hiding its armed forces within a civilian population.

What an utter disgrace - and all funded by the Australian taxpayers!

“Doc” Evatt, the sometimes erratic Labor Foreign Minister who took such pride in working to create the UN, to create Israel and, along the way, support the liberation of Indonesia, would be wondering how Australia’s Middle East legacy has been betrayed.

[Typical Islam]

yeah right wrote:

An Australian woman who was working in the UAE in a five star, "international" hotel was DRUGGED AND then RAPED in her room.
And then guess what happened? Can you guess?
SHE was put into PRISON after suffering injuries inflicted on her by these criminal muslims.
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/03/alici...

When was the last time in Australian history that we locked up and punished rape victims???

For all the, "well you guys do it too", and "let me bring up some evil in Australia" muslims.

We DON'T DO THAT IN AUSTRALIA. This is despicable to do to another human being! And don't get me started on raping maids, beating em and raping and killing virgins in the muslim world!

We give rapist life sentences. You people let them off if there are no four MALE witnesses. As if you are going to have four male witnesses while you do the evil act in your own home. And as if these relatives will sell you out; you know arab loyalty to some phillipino, indian or african maid.

These people are incapable of checking in with their innate morals every human being is born with. Then people like the Casual Donkey boast about muslim morality and how it is going to take Australia.

Allah's will my arse.

[yeah right]

Typical Islam wrote:

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When was the last time in Australian history that we locked up and punished rape victims???
For all the, "well you guys do it too", and "let me bring up some evil in Australia" muslims.
We DON'T DO THAT IN AUSTRALIA. This is despicable to do to another human being! And don't get me started on raping maids, beating em and raping and killing virgins in the muslim world!
We give rapist life sentences. You people let them off if there are no four MALE witnesses. As if you are going to have four male witnesses while you do the evil act in your own home. And as if these relatives will sell you out; you know arab loyalty to some phillipino, indian or african maid.
These people are incapable of checking in with their innate morals every human being is born with. Then people like the Casual Donkey boast about muslim morality and how it is going to take Australia.
Allah's will my arse.

They make me sick to my stomach. The US and AUS ought to be arming the WOMEN over there - there would be an end to this crap in no time.

What is really abhorrent is that the UAE tries and fails to pass itself off as 'modern'. Modern? Modern to lock up a woman who was brutally raped after being drugged?

Oh and yes, the moral RIGHTEOUSNESS of the Muq and the Donkey and all other muz who claim they are holier than thou are no better than rabid, slavering vicious dogs.

[Sheilaa]

MUQ wrote:

Now there is a Joke going around in "knowledgeable circles"
Question: How much is 10 plus 12?
Answer Choices:
A. Bible says it is 120
B. Quran says it is 22.
Now Which one is correct?
Answer Shielaa the Great: Bible
Reason: It came earlier and Quran copied from it!!
This is what I make of our Shielaa the Great's post!!
I could never imagine some one can get so unreasonable and so illogical when it comes to defending the undefenable!!

You would know all about defending the undefendable. You do it on a daily basis. Defending the false prophet by peddling your "wares" just like a gypsy. What else can you pull out of your bag of tricks?

[Sheilaa]

The Christian Bible predates Muhammad and Islam by more than 575 years. The Jewish Torah predates Muhammad and Islam by 1,000 - 3,000 years. Muhammad said for Muslims to read the Bible for "Guidance and Light." For Islam to say they are corrupted, then is to call Muhammad a liar for recommending it.

The same Bible Muhammad would have seen (if he ever did) is in both (1) The Vatican (Codex Vaticanus) and (2) British Museum (Codex Sinaticus). It is all there, including Jesus dying on the cross as atonement for our sins. And, His resurrection, and ascension into heaven - in front of many witnesses. The New Testament is preserved in almost perfect condition in these two Greek texts which both predate Muhammad and Islam by over 200 years.

Everything in the Christian/Jewish Bible is being authenticated by archeology. Consider the Babylonian cylinder inscription of Nabonidus (thought to be the last king of Babylon) which commemorates the reconstruction of a ziggurat at Ur by Nabonidus and records a prayer to Belshazzar (Daniel 5) his son 'the firstborn son, the offspring of my heart'. Not only does this prove that Belshazzar was indeed a member of the Babylonian royal family, which had long been disputed, but it also explains why Daniel is told he could be the third ruler (with Nabonidus and Belshazzar more or less acting as co-regents). Also, consider the 'chariot wheels' divers found in the Red Sea, proving the Hebrew Exodus from Egypy was real; and that the Egyptian army chasing the Jews was drowned by God (Yahweh), just as was recorded in the Jewish Bible.

Muslims should note that nowhere in the Qur'an there is even a suggestion that the Christian Biblical text has been altered or corrupted. The word "tahrif" is never used with reference to the Christian Gospels (Injil). The Qur'an occasionally accuses the Jews of altering their Scripture (like in Surah 5:13); but it never levels this accusation at Christians. It in no way implies that the text of the Gospel of Jesus (Injil) has been corrupted. In fact, the Qur'an attests to the validity of the Christian Gospels, Zabur (Psalms) and the Torah.

[Typical Islam]

The ADELAIDEAN wrote:

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Islam cannot take credit for all the achievements that you cite. Those achievements (and they were considerable) were already going on in Middle Eastern countries long before Islam was invented. They continued for a while during Islam's early centuries too.
But around the 13th Century, Islam's hardline leaders decided that these achievements were evidence of too much free-thinking in the Islamic world. So they forced a clamp-down on such 'risky' freedom of thought and enquiry. Back to 7th Century Islamic fundamentalism.
The great clamp-down was successful and further secular exploration quickly ceased. From then on Islamic countries contributed nothing more of importance to the world. Their Scientific and Artistic progress withered on the vine.
It took Islam to crush any spirit of exploration from then on. Islamic so-called "scholarship" shriveled back to the pages of the Qur'an and its Hadiths. Islamic countries became systematically dumbed down and backward as the rest of the world passed them by. End of story.
Almost.
This killing off of Islamic interest in new knowledge coincided with the Renaissance in Christian countries that was the exact opposite of Islam's clamp-down. After some 8 centuries of comparative stagnation ("The Dark Ages") Christendom came alive with renewed curiosity, a search for knowledge and experimentation.
Poor Islam ... it got clobbered with a double whammy ... it got dumbed down while the rest of the known world got smarter.
Islam has no one else to blame for that but itself and its landslide of bad decisions, made at a bad time.
Islam has existed for 14 Centuries and for the first 6 of those it trod water academically. Then it stopped making that effort and has drowned in ignorant primitivism ever since, for the next 8 Centuries until the present.
Now Islam's brainwashed resent Western progress and enlightenment and want to 'catch up' by fair means or foul ... featuring a substantial dose of menace and subterfuge, and a drive to even the score destructively by dragging more advanced cultures down to Islam's level rather than raising Islam to a rivaling level of merit and enlightenment.
And yet Muslims reel in astonishment that their conduct is not well regarded by those outside their cult! A strident case of massed moral blindness pursued fanatically by millions whom Time left behind.

Unfortunately Casual Donkey still lives in his make believe world where muslims are still important.

He doesn't seem to see that those good ol' muslims lived in a time where they were considered the most secular and forward thinking of all the civilisations. Especially if you compare to Europe at the time and China trying to save their backsides from the mongols.

Now the casual donkey, suffering a massive inferiority complex is unable to come to terms to the pathetic state of the present muslim world. While the west soars on and billions of people use our science, our technology and knowledge the muslim wither away at each other with their stones and bullets. Their only way of escaping their useless conundrum they feel they are entrapped in is to to outbreed their competitors and kidnappings. Suave.

But of course.... We are but convicts to the inbreds that live today, riding so undeserved on their more open ancestors that scoured through Greek, Persian, Indian and some Chinese texts regarding science, engineering, philosophy etc...

[Gaza people welcome here]

The israelis are going to use these attacks to cleanse israel of Muslims ~ maybe send them in ships to Australia ?
We should take them in as they are genuine refugees and the Palestine people are perhaps the best of all the arabs. We should shut down all Indians immigration and deport the 160,000 or so Indian overstayers or ones that have fraudantly sneaked in - the Indians are not in genuine need and do not fit in at all.

[sid]

Gaza people welcome here wrote:

The israelis are going to use these attacks to cleanse israel of Muslims ~ maybe send them in ships to Australia ?
We should take them in as they are genuine refugees and the Palestine people are perhaps the best of all the arabs. We should shut down all Indians immigration and deport the 160,000 or so Indian overstayers or ones that have fraudantly sneaked in - the Indians are not in genuine need and do not fit in at all.

No we don't want palestinians here, they will just bring their bloody war with them, let them go to other muslim countries in the middle east, there is absolutly no reason why they should be brought to australia.

[NO to 3rd world stupidity]

MUQ wrote:

Now there is a Joke going around in "knowledgeable circles"
Question: How much is 10 plus 12?
Answer Choices:
A. Bible says it is 120
B. Quran says it is 22.
Now Which one is correct?
Answer Shielaa the Great: Bible
Reason: It came earlier and Quran copied from it!!
This is what I make of our Shielaa the Great's post!!
I could never imagine some one can get so unreasonable and so illogical when it comes to defending the undefenable!!

LOL I find your comment a bit rich.I guess you are forgetting Mohammed's attempt at mathematics in his calculations of inheritance. Clearly either Mohammed or Allah could not add up, and in the last 1400 years no Muslim has been able to fix the error.

What a Joke!

[NO to 3rd world stupidity]

Gaza people welcome here wrote:

The israelis are going to use these attacks to cleanse israel of Muslims ~ maybe send them in ships to Australia ?
We should take them in as they are genuine refugees and the Palestine people are perhaps the best of all the arabs. We should shut down all Indians immigration and deport the 160,000 or so Indian overstayers or ones that have fraudantly sneaked in - the Indians are not in genuine need and do not fit in at all.

Why should we take them? If the Arab world does not want them, why should we take them? We have enough lazy Muslims here as it is.

Why don't they go to India?? I keep hearing the Indians on this forum talking the place up, it sounds like paradise for Palestinians, much closer too.

[NO to 3rd world stupidity]

From the English translation of the Sahih collection of Imam Muslim, Book 031, Number 5984:
The Book Pertaining to the Merits of the Companions of the Holy Prophet (Kitab Al-Fada'il Al-Sahabah)

'A'isha, the wife of Allah's Apostle, said: The wives of Allah's Apostle sent Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger, to Allah's Apostle. She sought permission to get in as he had been lying with me IN MY MANTLE… The wives of Allah's Apostle then sent Zainab b. Jahsh, the wife of Allah's Apostle… She, however, lost temper very soon but was soon calm. Allah's Messenger permitted her to enter as she ('A'isha) was along with Allah's Messenger IN HER MANTLE, in the same very state when Fatima had entered…(http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadi... )

[sid]

MUQ wrote:

Now there is a Joke going around in "knowledgeable circles"
Question: How much is 10 plus 12?
Answer Choices:
A. Bible says it is 120
B. Quran says it is 22.
Now Which one is correct?
Answer Shielaa the Great: Bible
Reason: It came earlier and Quran copied from it!!
This is what I make of our Shielaa the Great's post!!
I could never imagine some one can get so unreasonable and so illogical when it comes to defending the undefenable!!

Go back and read post 34344# you dumb donkey banger what has this bullshit you have written have got to with anything in the real world. You've had your arse kicked half a dozen times by shiela, can't deal with a woman more intelligent than yourself hey, you poor pathetic misogynistic, lame excuse for a human being.
Address the issues in post 34344 or STFU.
When you learn to deal with the reality of barbaric belief system come back, until then go back to your cave and dream your dreams of vain glorious denialist grandeur.