Prisoner swap revives debate in Israel over Lebanon war
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Please you spend so much time on line cutting and pasting...try looking it up. Your posts are so full
of them, try the internet and the big magazines like Newsweek, Time, US News, etc. I am sure you won't find it on Al Jezeera. |
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I know it's a waste of time to respond to a crazed, rabid Jew-hater like "mohamed", but a bit of perspective is in order to those who might believe his mindless rants:
" 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000." Those 123 Israeli children were purposely killed by terrorist Palestinians who rejoiced afterwards by dancing in the streets and passing out candies. The Palestinian children were accidentally killed by the Israeli army as a result of Palestinian terrorist who PURPOSELY surround themselves with children. Why do they do this? Well, the terrorists shoot kassam rockets into Israel (every day for the past 2 years- SINCE ISRAEL WITHDREW FROM GAZA). They know that Israel will have to respond in order to take out those rocket launchers. So they make sure to have a lot of children in the area so they will be sure to be killed, because this is a great way to make sure that Israel will be villified in the press. Sounds unbelievable? It is, in a normal, civilized society. But these terrorists don't give a damn about human life, not even the lives of their own children. This is the enemy that Israel must battle every day- and gets vilified for doing it. |
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A person must be filled with hate not
to mention insane if they are willing to let children die like this. |
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geez
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"China,... and Russia have excellent relations with moslems"? CHINA http://www.arabnews.com/... http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008 -... http://shanghaiist.com/2008/07/10/jihad_ ... http://news.jongo.com/articles/08/0710/1 ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080709/wl_ ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/ ... RUSSIA http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ethnic-cleansing... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/... http://jihadwatch.org/archives/021562.php INDIA http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.kashmiri-pandit.org/refugees/index... http://islamicterrorism.wordpress.com/2008/07... |
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“YAM SUF Aquagenesis ”
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Here is an idea; LIVE IN PEACE. Stop the rockets. Just try it and see what happens. |
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2 See, you lie even in the first sentence, why should anyone believe anything you say after that? Israel has occupied the territories for 41 years, not 60. And the only reason Israel occupies the territories is because 5 arab countries STARTED the 6 Day War. Israel captured the Sinai Desert, gaza, the west bank, and the Golan Heights. In the egypt-Israel peace treaty, Israel offered to give back the Sinai and gaza for peace, egypt took the Sinai but didn't want gaza anymore. Just shows you the arabs don't care about the palestinians anymore. http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/arabtreatment... |
got proof that my posts are 'cut and past'? whenever i do quote from other sites,i give the website URL... |
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abdulQueer, just because some Moslems have troubles with these nations doesnt mean that the whole Moslem world is at loggerheads with these nations...there have been israeli spies captured in the US by American authorities some time ago, but does that mean that the US and israel are enemies? no most Moslem states have excellent military,economic,and diplomatic ties with these three nations...Russia and China are major arms suppliers to many Moslem countries,and that wouldnt have been the case if we and they were enemies.understood,abdulQueer? |
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“We plan- Hashem laughs”
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only monsters like you can cheer when innocent families suffer. Israeli never celebrated when Palestinians suffer or die. we put people in Jail for those sins. YOU HAVE SHOWED YOU'RE DISGRACE FOR HUMEN BEINGS. |
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1 So you think it's OK for the Palestinian terrorists to purposely surround themselves with children, knowing that they will be killed. Hmm. As another commenter said, they do have an alternative: they can stop the terrorism and live in peace. If the terrorism stopped TODAY, there would never again be another Palestinian killed by Israelis. Israel has no desire to live in a state of perpetual war. We are a modern country, with the largest hi-tech base after Silicon Valley. Problem is, the Palestinians have absolutely no desire to live in peace with Israel. Their Jew-hatred is the only thing they have, and they don't want to throw it away and actually start living in a modern society where they have to live like normal human beings. During the years that Jews lived in the Gaza Strip, there weren't any rockets fired at Israel (just regular old terrorism- like when a Palestinian forced a car off the road and shot at point blank range the pregnant woman and her 4 little children inside). AS SOON AS ISRAEL WITHDREW FROM GAZA, the terrorists started firing kassams into Israel and haven't stopped. I'm sorry not enough Israelis have been killed to your satisfaction, but countless lives have been ruined. Ask the teenager who lost his brother...and his legs. The highly profitable greenhouses the Jews had built in Gaza were bought by the World Bank so the Palestinians would have some automatic industry when Israel pulled out of Gaza. It took less than a week for the Palis to set fire to and destory those greenhouses. The Palis have received more international aid than any country in the world. I don't know how many billions of dollars its up to by now. But instead of using that money to build a society- roads, schools, hospitals, industry, etc., it has only been used to buy suicide belts, rockets, and bombs. The Palestinians hate the Jews more than they care about their own children. And that is why there will never be peace. |
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You mean they sold weapons to Iran and Iraq during the war which killed millions? You mean they sell weapons to shi'a AND suni militias? SOME FRIENDS. The Demise of Islam? by Abul Kasem/Jamie Glazov 17 Jul, 2008 http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/Demise-o... |
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By the way, "Bentnotbroken", it might interest you to learn (although you probably don't care about the truth) that Israel never "stole" any land from the Palestinians. There was never any Palestine and never any people called Palestinians.
Before the 6 Day War, Gaza and the West Bank belonged to Egypt and Jordan- so those people would have been Egyptians and Jordanians, right? There was never a Palestinian state. NEVER. After Israel took those territories in a defensive war (as every other country in the world has done when it has gone to war), it tried to return those territories to Egypt and Jordan in return for a peace treaty. Can you guess Egypt and Jordan's response? It was the 3 Nos of Khartoum: No peace with Israel No recognition of Israel No negotiations with Israel Look it up. |
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...no, when nothing is left to them, they will have to negotiate in good faith and accept a peace deal as permanent, not a pause between attacks. |
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Historically the Jewish state was called Judea. As to the Partition Plan, the Arabs rejected that plan and attacked Israel, lost and now need to make concessions for peace, that is how it works (or should) if you start a war and lose...and lets not forget the aim and tactics of the pals, in their own leaders words... Zuheir Mohsen (Arabic: زه 10;ر مح 87;ن, also transcribed Zuhayr Muħsin or Zahir Muhsein)(b. 1936, d. 1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-sponsored as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979. In 1976, Zuheir Mohsen gained notoriety for being the commander of the Arab forces that invaded the Lebanese Christian town of Damour, which resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Christian citizens, known as the Damour massacre. Zuhair Mohsen is widely known for having made the following statement in a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw: 'The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.' So the pals' state is Jordan, carved out of the Palestinian Mandate, a 2 state solution, how simple, and Israel and Jordan already have a peace deal, and thus a framework for resolving the dispute...but that would end the Arab war on Israel. |
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Ah, conspiracy sites, you gotta love em for not telling the truth, yea? |
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Here we go again mr. falsenss, every time I post this you never respond to it being fake, so therefore you must believe its true. A little bit of educational history for those who don't know history. "palestine" as we know it today, is a fictional land. The "palestinans" say they are descendants of the philistines. Historically, the philistines only lived in the gaza area and up a few more miles along the shoreline. The Jews have had a presence in Israel from about 1200 BC by the Merneptah Stele, which refers to the victory the egyptians had over the people of Israel (the Tribes of Israel also known as the Israelites). The United Monarchy (also known as the United Kingdom of Israel and Judah) was when all the Tribes of Israel unified under one country. The capital of the United Monarchy was Jerusalem, this occurred around 1050 BC. The United Monarchy was then split into 2 sister states, the Kingdom of Israel (including Samaria as its capital) and the Kingdom of Judah (including Jerusalem as its capital) around 930 BC. During the time of the Kingdoms, many wars were brought upon them. Subsequently, too many wars caused the Kingdoms to collapse and the Kingdoms fell to the babylonians, persians, macedonians, assyrians, etc., but still maintained a Jewish presence. During the roman empire, the land that the Kingdoms were in was then named the Iudaea Province around 63 BC, which included Judah and Samaria. The "west bank" as it is called, is actually Judah and Samaria. The Jews revolted 3 times because of discrimination, religious persecution, desecration and other reasons. On the final revolt, the Bar Kokhba revolt, happening around 132 AD. The romans suppressed the revolt. The roman empire got annoyed with the revolts, so to punish the Jews, the roman empire renamed the Iudaea province to "syria-palaestina" to insult the Jews and disconnect them from their homeland. They renamed the Iudaea province to "syria-palaestina" because the long time enemies of the Jews are the assyrians and the philistines. They then separated "syria-palaestina" into 2 provinces to "palaestina I" and "palaestina II". After the roman empire fell the lands name stayed and "palaestina I and II" combined to become "palaestina". The name stayed "palestine" (translated into English) until the british mandate ended in 1948. So as you can see, "palestine" is a made up land. "palestinians" are actually in Jewish lands. And to really prove its Jewish land, there is scientific proof, that "palestinians" are descendants of Jews and christians. Read this: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/Nebel-HG-00... "According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority, of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD (Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981). These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the core population that had lived in the area for several centuries, some even since prehistorical times (Gil 1992). On the other hand, the ancestors of the great majority of present-day Jews lived outside this region for almost two millennia. Thus, our findings are in good agreement with historical evidence and suggest genetic continuity in both populations despite their long separation and the wide geographic dispersal of Jews." As you can see, the "palestinians" have no claim over the land they say they have been in since the beginning. |
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Here we go again mr falseness, I know that this is such a hard thing for you to swallow because I know you know its true, but you don't want to admit it. And you never respond to it being false so I'll just post it again. A little bit of educational history for those who don't know history. "palestine" as we know it today, is a fictional land. The "palestinans" say they are descendants of the philistines. Historically, the philistines only lived in the gaza area and up a few more miles along the shoreline. The Jews have had a presence in Israel from about 1200 BC by the Merneptah Stele, which refers to the victory the egyptians had over the people of Israel (the Tribes of Israel also known as the Israelites). The United Monarchy (also known as the United Kingdom of Israel and Judah) was when all the Tribes of Israel unified under one country. The capital of the United Monarchy was Jerusalem, this occurred around 1050 BC. The United Monarchy was then split into 2 sister states, the Kingdom of Israel (including Samaria as its capital) and the Kingdom of Judah (including Jerusalem as its capital) around 930 BC. During the time of the Kingdoms, many wars were brought upon them. Subsequently, too many wars caused the Kingdoms to collapse and the Kingdoms fell to the babylonians, persians, macedonians, assyrians, etc., but still maintained a Jewish presence. During the roman empire, the land that the Kingdoms were in was then named the Iudaea Province around 63 BC, which included Judah and Samaria. The "west bank" as it is called, is actually Judah and Samaria. The Jews revolted 3 times because of discrimination, religious persecution, desecration and other reasons. On the final revolt, the Bar Kokhba revolt, happening around 132 AD. The romans suppressed the revolt. The roman empire got annoyed with the revolts, so to punish the Jews, the roman empire renamed the Iudaea province to "syria-palaestina" to insult the Jews and disconnect them from their homeland. They renamed the Iudaea province to "syria-palaestina" because the long time enemies of the Jews are the assyrians and the philistines. They then separated "syria-palaestina" into 2 provinces to "palaestina I" and "palaestina II". After the roman empire fell the lands name stayed and "palaestina I and II" combined to become "palaestina". The name stayed "palestine" (translated into English) until the british mandate ended in 1948. So as you can see, "palestine" is a made up land. "palestinians" are actually in Jewish lands. And to really prove its Jewish land, there is scientific proof, that "palestinians" are descendants of Jews and christians. Read this: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/Nebel-HG-00... "According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority, of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD (Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981). These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the core population that had lived in the area for several centuries, some even since prehistorical times (Gil 1992). On the other hand, the ancestors of the great majority of present-day Jews lived outside this region for almost two millennia. Thus, our findings are in good agreement with historical evidence and suggest genetic continuity in both populations despite their long separation and the wide geographic dispersal of Jews." As you can see, the "palestinians" have no claim over the land they say they have been in since the beginning. |
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