Mob storms Belfast City Hall over UK flag vote

Dec 3, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Anchorage Daily News

Loyalist protestors, some of them carrying British flags, gather as councillors debate whether or not to keep the flag flying at City Hall, outside City Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, Monday, Dec.

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you could join the "boys" now and help them murder innocent men travelling on the motorway to work.i am sure you would be cut out for such work.
No. There is equality in NI now, the power is shifting democratically into the hands of the nationalists. There is no need for fighting now, they've already won. Evidence can be seen in all this rioting over the union flag coming down. They now look desperate, the demographic clock is ticking, they'll be a minority soon. Their losing their power and they don't like it, but their losing it democratically so there is diddly squat they can do about it, without embarrassing themselves further.

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<quoted text>lol you dont even belive that one 100 tossers beat 1000 soldiers they must have been blindfolded and drunk and unarmed
That wasn't the case.

The tossers were clearly the men who ran off despite having a 1000/100 advantage.

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<quoted text>do you agree with this statement then dub of your m8 rio
My own statements should make my views clear.
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No. There is equality in NI now, the power is shifting democratically into the hands of the nationalists. There is no need for fighting now, they've already won. Evidence can be seen in all this rioting over the union flag coming down. They now look desperate, the demographic clock is ticking, they'll be a minority soon. Their losing their power and they don't like it, but their losing it democratically so there is diddly squat they can do about it, without embarrassing themselves further.
they lost a vote in a council chamber because a non political party voted politicaly they should not have become involved in this flag issue as its not what they are about... this party was used and are being laughted at by sin fein now.. they will pay a heavy price and their votes which are mostly protestant will see them in the cold in next vote you mark my words. you are saying doomsday stuff lol this party will not be used again abstain abstain abstain on anything political and unionist win vote..but its to late..

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stuarty wrote:
<quoted text> they lost a vote in a council chamber because a non political party voted politicaly they should not have become involved in this flag issue as its not what they are about... this party was used and are being laughted at by sin fein now.. they will pay a heavy price and their votes which are mostly protestant will see them in the cold in next vote you mark my words. you are saying doomsday stuff lol this party will not be used again abstain abstain abstain on anything political and unionist win vote..but its to late..
The Alliance Party are non-sectarian.

They could see the sense in the fact that having a Union Flag flying causes division.

All this shouting, roaring, rioting, threats etc over a poxy flag? While the world watches on in disgust....
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"but could perfectly understand them in Ulster."
well,that statement sums up your wretched character in a nutshell,you "understand" the murder of unarmed,men women and children.
you really are a sad sorry excuse for a man.
I understand armed resistance against oppression.
Violence is justified when it is the only mean of resistance.
It has always been and will always be.
Any a nation, ethnic or religious group is downtrodden so far that it starts to fight back to assert its rights.
Catholics in Northern Ireland had their rights denied until well in the 1960s. It took then 30 years of armed resistance to achieve what they have now, but it's not over yet; they haven't reached full equality yet, not eradicated discrimination against them.
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a non political party voted politicaly .
That must be the oxymoron of the year !!!

LMFAO
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I understand armed resistance against oppression.
Violence is justified when it is the only mean of resistance.
It has always been and will always be.
Any a nation, ethnic or religious group is downtrodden so far that it starts to fight back to assert its rights.
Catholics in Northern Ireland had their rights denied until well in the 1960s. It took then 30 years of armed resistance to achieve what they have now, but it's not over yet; they haven't reached full equality yet, not eradicated discrimination against them.
so you agree with the loyalist fighting for their rights also then you wrote this above

religious group is downtrodden so far that it starts to fight back to assert its rights.
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<quoted text>so you agree with the loyalist fighting for their rights also then you wrote this above
religious group is downtrodden so far that it starts to fight back to assert its rights.
I don't see the loyalists being downtrodden at all. Their power has been eroded since the introduction of democracy in Northen Ireland, and now they don't rule the roost as they used to.

Their political power is getting in line with the size of their population and they don't have the monopoly on decisions as they used to. About time!

Now they argue about silly issues like flags, etc... They need to grow up and join the real world.

All that democracy and openess in Northern Ireland don't do them any favour, eh? A lot of loyalist dirty trick have been uncovered.Like the following:

Collusion between British state forces and unionist death squads

Gerry Adams 'Subject Of Loyalist Plot'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/06/ge...
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<quoted text>the south did little or nothing to stop the provos move backwards and forwards over border, as they have proved themselves with the gardi pro-active movement against new ira arresting plenty and nothing before as were not trying or were not allowed....mmmmmmm so many questions and so few answers..dundalk guards have said there were leaks, and ruc quit all dealings with them after murders of harry breen and bob buchanan coming back from a meeting with them in dundalk.. one of the guards said under oath he belived the guard in question was giving info to the ira.
Let's not begin this scratched record of an argument again stuarty. It's not like all the old RUC were upstanding models of good policing now was it.

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That must be the oxymoron of the year !!!
LMFAO
and your.......no to easy

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Would have loved to have seen the looks on their faces when the Gardai locked them in the stadium and sent the riot squad in.''NOW, you can't get out''.....Wonder how many of your anti-Muslim buddies were there that night?
I think what happened to those kids was disgraceful. How many times do I have to say it?
yes you "say" it,but continue to hero worship the vermin who committed such cowardly acts,like they say words are cheap.
even your terrorist supporting friend rio/ronan tells the truth and admits he is happy for Republican terrorists to murder children,a scumbag yes but an honest scumbag.unlike you.

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yes you "say" it,but continue to hero worship the vermin who committed such cowardly acts,like they say words are cheap.
even your terrorist supporting friend rio/ronan tells the truth and admits he is happy for Republican terrorists to murder children,a scumbag yes but an honest scumbag.unlike you.
Your not tuned into reality. I have ALWAYS condemned innocent people being killed on here regardless of who done it, so I don't know why your having a go off me about it. Totally unfounded accusations.

While you despise a religious minority so much you want them all shipped out of your country.

I don't think you have any moral high ground....
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yes you "say" it,but continue to hero worship the vermin who committed such cowardly acts,like they say words are cheap.
even your terrorist supporting friend rio/ronan tells the truth and admits he is happy for Republican terrorists to murder children,a scumbag yes but an honest scumbag.unlike you.
If the nationalists were the only terrorists and the loyalists the only victims, I could understand your position.
But you and I, and the rest of the world knows that the loyalists themselves have their own terrorists, their own death squads, their own paramilitary.
So, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.

There would have been no terrorism from the nationalist side, if they had been treated correctly and not denied their civil rights for so long. Now the unionists get what they deserve, and I won't shed a tear for them.
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If the nationalists were the only terrorists and the loyalists the only victims, I could understand your position.
But you and I, and the rest of the world knows that the loyalists themselves have their own terrorists, their own death squads, their own paramilitary.
So, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
There would have been no terrorism from the nationalist side, if they had been treated correctly and not denied their civil rights for so long. Now the unionists get what they deserve, and I won't shed a tear for them.
clueless... the loyalist terrorists would not be around if the ira didnt exist. so your argument void .. the british state and ireland did give them the ira the right to bomb and kill woman and children for decades without a care in the world ... cant see the nose if front of your face and you would know none of your family was involved or killed in their bloodshed so stick to england and what ya might know something about cause you are clueless on the troubles [ronan]
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the loyalist terrorists would not be around if the ira didnt exist.]
Clueless!

The IRA wouldn't have existed if the Catholic community had been respected by the Loyalists in Ulster, instead of being constantly discriminated and denied of their civiol rights.

What goes round comes round.

Loyalist paramilitary existed prior to the Troubles. For decades before the 60s, Loyalist gangs had attacked Catholics. Catholics were humiliated and treated as second class citizen right from the partition of Ireland. The Loyalists hoped that Catholics would move out of Ulster. Many did, but that didn't stop the Catholic community to grow to a point where now, they are demographically threatening the Loyalist majority.
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<quoted text>Let's not begin this scratched record of an argument again stuarty. It's not like all the old RUC were upstanding models of good policing now was it.
well all in all i think 99% of them done a stand up job. look if this was played out over 30years in america or russia etc you would still be picking boddies of the street .. i think the republican community got off light as any other state would have waterboarded gerry and martin every half hour and electric shocks every other.. the british state were pretty kid gloves imo and the ruc a very stand up police force worldwide for what was happening to them from cowards who shot a ran away ... dont forget they knew where they all lived.. and most are still alive..
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rio wrote:
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Clueless!
The IRA wouldn't have existed if the Catholic community had been respected by the Loyalists in Ulster, instead of being constantly discriminated and denied of their civiol rights.
What goes round comes round.
Loyalist paramilitary existed prior to the Troubles. For decades before the 60s, Loyalist gangs had attacked Catholics. Catholics were humiliated and treated as second class citizen right from the partition of Ireland. The Loyalists hoped that Catholics would move out of Ulster. Many did, but that didn't stop the Catholic community to grow to a point where now, they are demographically threatening the Loyalist majority.
the new style uvf and uff would not exist if the old ira did not become the new.. dont try to excuse the formation of these child killers you have clearly supported in your posts
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<quoted text>well all in all i think 99% of them done a stand up job. look if this was played out over 30years in america or russia etc you would still be picking boddies of the street .. i think the republican community got off light as any other state would have waterboarded gerry and martin every half hour and electric shocks every other.. the british state were pretty kid gloves imo and the ruc a very stand up police force worldwide for what was happening to them from cowards who shot a ran away ... dont forget they knew where they all lived.. and most are still alive..
Well, Britain isn't a totalitarian state. London will never emulate Moscow of Beijing in terms of cruaulty. We respect human rights, and the due process of law; plus democracy. Something the loyalists wanted Westminster to ignore.

The fact is that, in spite of what you said, Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness weren't criminals in the legal sense. British surveillance was never able to pin them down as IRA leaders, and in our country, without evidence presented, there is no chance of prosecution, hence to power of arrest.

Anyone has the right to express himself, and Gerry and Martin were political leaders who didn't seem to break any law being so.

The RUC, mostly composed of protestants, was heavily bias towards the Loyalists, something that played against them in many instances, notably in court cases. The fact that the Loyalist side was so outside the law, with the collusion between the RUC, the UDR, some British Army and the loyalist paramilitary was the downfall of the Unionist case, as far as Westminster was concerned. You brought the house crashing down on yourself!

Now, if you think about taking revenge against known nationalists in spite of the Peace Process, that would just prove that you don't intend to stick to its terms. Well, that doesn't surprise me one bit!
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This Tuesday 11th December sees the 41st anniversary of the Balmoral bombing on the Shankill Road.The brave ira planted a bomb which exploded and killed 2 men,aged 70 and 29,plus 2 young children aged 2 and 17 months.20 people were injured in this barbaric attack.The terrorist psychos who carried out this crime are the heroes of pricks like RIO/RONAN and his ilk.

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