Syria - the lies being told

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: Joe DeCaro | Full story: www.virtueonline.org

Without a doubt, the greatest lie being told about the Syrian conflict is that it is being waged by President Assad against 'the Syrian people'.

This is pure propaganda ...

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Saudis are scared and sensitive to any criticism,they are the symbol of freedom,human right and democracy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-1994386...
What do you care about democracy your in love with the crazy Ayatollahs and there despot stooge Assad.
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Indeed! Dove Lior, Rabbi of Kiryat Arba once said: "Our race is the master race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact,compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our Earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as slaves!" Can I say more?
LOL!! No wonder they kept getting their azzzes kicked hundreds of times over the last 5,000 years!
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You're mistaken! Maybe you meant iran! Yes, it will happen soon and I'm with Iranians and their rights in a better life away from the rules of the crazy mullahs.
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Sorry Scent, but I mean Saudi Arabia. I have so far one report but I would not be surprised. In 1945, the US government made a deal with the House of Saud that oil would be paid in dollars.In return the US military would protect the monarchy. Anybody wanting oil would have to borrow dollars to buy it. In other words, the US government was controlling the world through its issuing of paper dollars. No dollars , no oil. The sins of Saddam Hussein was to want his oil to be paid in Euros. The same with Iran. Libya wanted to issue a gold dinar to be used as a backing currency against the dollar. The Taliban curbed the drug trade and gave the contract for a pipeline to an Argentinian company instead of Halliburton. Now Saudi Arabians has made a deal with the Chinese to build the biggest oil refinery in the world. That you can be sure will not be tolerated by the Empire and will call for "regime change". There are plenty of Islamic schools with plenty of idle youths which can be agitated. You can be sure that the Iranians are doing just that. I hope that I am wrong for your sake, but most of the time I can read the future if one can call it that way.

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The funny thing is that NOW the world finally decided to interfere in Syria !! and there are plans about peace forces ?? Why now when the revolution is about to win and asad has lost control in most of Syrians land..
Syrians are quite aware of the devilish plans that aim to steal their revolution and all the sacrifices the were given.
Western countries have to stay away from Syria! we don't want them now!
Blaming others again, Scent? But could it be that the "western countries" have helped the rebels from start (not that I agree or disagree with that), and they might ask you (in your own words) "Why now when the revolution is about to win and asad has lost control in most of Syrians land.." that you "don't want them now"? Perhaps it isn't in the policy of many countries to interfere with internal affairs of other countries. Apparently, from this link, US adopted "indirect intervention" in the Syrian conflict by arming the rebels indirectly through your Kingdom (and Qatar) whom Obama trust enough to deliver our weapons to, but the weapons ended up in the hands of hard-line Islamist rebels hostile to the United States:

www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/world/middleeast/j...

Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.

That conclusion, of which President Obama and other senior officials are aware from classified assessments of the Syrian conflict that has now claimed more than 25,000 lives, casts into doubt whether the White House’s strategy of minimal and indirect intervention in the Syrian conflict is accomplishing its intended purpose of helping a democratic-minded opposition topple an oppressive government, or is instead sowing the seeds of future insurgencies hostile to the United States.

“The opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don’t want to have it,” said one American official familiar with the outlines of those findings, commenting on an operation that in American eyes has increasingly gone awry.

The United States is not sending arms directly to the Syrian opposition. Instead, it is providing intelligence and other support for shipments of secondhand light weapons like rifles and grenades into Syria, mainly orchestrated from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.

The assessment of the arms flows comes at a crucial time for Mr. Obama, in the closing weeks of the election campaign with two debates looming that will focus on his foreign policy record. But it also calls into question the Syria strategy laid out by Mitt Romney, his Republican challenger.

In a speech at the Virginia Military Institute last Monday, Mr. Romney said he would ensure that rebel groups “who share our values” would “obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.” That suggests he would approve the transfer of weapons like antiaircraft and antitank systems that are much more potent than any the United States has been willing to put into rebel hands so far, precisely because American officials cannot be certain who will ultimately be using them.

But Mr. Romney stopped short of saying that he would have the United States provide those arms directly, and his aides said he would instead rely on Arab allies to do it. That would leave him, like Mr. Obama, with little direct control over the distribution of the arms.

American officials have been trying to understand why hard-line Islamists have received the lion’s share of the arms shipped to the Syrian opposition through the shadowy pipeline...

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(CBS News) As foreign weapons pour into Syria, there are questions as to whether the U.S. policy to not directly arm the rebels has opened the door to more extremist elements gaining influence in the opposition movement.

"There's a sense that the U.S. has lost an opportunity here by taking such a hands-off approach to the Syrian conflict. They really lost the opportunity to influence what's happening on the ground, and to ensure that groups and opposition members who do espouse more democratic values have any real success or power or influence," CBS News correspondent Clarissa Ward, who has reported extensively from the country, said on "CBS This Morning" Monday.

According to a New York Times report Monday, most of the arms being supplied by Saudi Arabia and Qatar to forces fighting the government of President Bashar Assad are going into the hands of hardline Islamic jihadists, not more secular opposition groups - something Ward said is "absolutely" a blow to U.S. strategy there.

The U.S. has espoused the policy of not arming the rebels directly but allowing or possibly assisting in indirectly arming the rebels through countries like these Gulf countries, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The problem, Ward said, is that many private citizens from these countries "don't espouse democratic values per se, but support more militant Islamist groups."

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Trisha wrote:
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Your biased take on the Syrian upheaval is enlightening.
I don't know why I ever expected you to be anything but unfair and biased anyway.
You can't understand or tolerate anything that doesn't agree with your personal political and religious agenda.
And how is your viewpoint different, are you not biased and unfair toward the Rebels and their plight??

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The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.
are we going to hold Qatar and Saudi accountable for such mishandling of our weapons?
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Sorry Scent, but I mean Saudi Arabia. I have so far one report but I would not be surprised. In 1945, the US government made a deal with the House of Saud that oil would be paid in dollars.In return the US military would protect the monarchy. Anybody wanting oil would have to borrow dollars to buy it. In other words, the US government was controlling the world through its issuing of paper dollars. No dollars , no oil. The sins of Saddam Hussein was to want his oil to be paid in Euros. The same with Iran. Libya wanted to issue a gold dinar to be used as a backing currency against the dollar. The Taliban curbed the drug trade and gave the contract for a pipeline to an Argentinian company instead of Halliburton. Now Saudi Arabians has made a deal with the Chinese to build the biggest oil refinery in the world. That you can be sure will not be tolerated by the Empire and will call for "regime change". There are plenty of Islamic schools with plenty of idle youths which can be agitated. You can be sure that the Iranians are doing just that. I hope that I am wrong for your sake, but most of the time I can read the future if one can call it that way.
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The largest refinery is considered The Jamnagar Refinery in India.
And you can 't read the future not in the slightest.
Heck you can't even read the present.
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Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists
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Well, Of course they are. Who do you think is the government of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, democrats or hard-line religious jihadists?

Hasn't Saudi Arabia been exporting wahabiism and funding jihadists for decades? They're just a bit more up front with it now.

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And how is your viewpoint different, are you not biased and unfair toward the Rebels and their plight??
Have you read any of my posts about the topic?

I"m not taking sides on the conflict, both sides are monsters.
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Will you please just STFU and come back when you actually have something intelligent to add to the discussion?
The only thing you post is spam and utter nonsense.
NO what I post is called the truth unlike the double speak and other types of jewish hasbarat propaganda you post along with rating your own post.
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<quoted text>NO what I post is called the truth unlike the double speak and other types of jewish hasbarat propaganda you post along with rating your own post.
With 50% of its population having been educated at the post secondary level, Canada easily has the most educated populace in the world. It is followed by Israel at 45% and Japan at 44%. That makes you THE "LIES BEATS HIMSELF SILLY" DUMMER THAN A ROCK!! Change that silly egotistical name you gave yourself War Monger alias Unreality is always best!! The poor stupid Hamasarat called War Monger alias Unreality is always best alias LIE beats himself Silly Silly! The imbecile stays on these boards day and night hiding behind different names to spread its Hamasarat terrorist support, hate and support for HamasArat terrorist acts being carried out by the Palestinian Hamas. The thing behind the name Liar beats himself silly is what is called a HamasaRAT (google it) basically it is a pro Hamas, Pro ASSADOMITE Anti-american government ANTI-JEWISH propagandist that is tasked with staying on boards like this to give a HAMASARATS AND ASSADARATS ANT-american government, ANTI-JEWISH, ANTI-THIS AND THAT push in all subjects. Its tactic mainly is to try and drown out all other truthful posts on here and replace them with its scripted HamasARAT lies and war mongering propaganda. Notice I said War Monger! That's one of the names the scumbag used as one of his filthy uneducated Low life Low IQ ignorant nonsense!! It will fail at its task!
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635 syrians murdered today by bashar assad, if this continues you will have 100,000 dead syrians by year end. Where is the world? Where is the UN? Russia, china why do you support murdering syrians? What wrong. Did the syrian people do to russia and china that they deserve this murder? China exported to syria billions so why do syrians get such a brutal payback? Russia ihas a base in syria so I could understand thei support for dictator assad, but china? China? Why? What did the syrians do harm to china? Shame on china shame shame'

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Well, Of course they are. Who do you think is the government of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, democrats or hard-line religious jihadists?
I certain hope there is some intelligence in Obama admin's beyond ordinary people like me who can never grasp the wisdom in their calculation and the way our tax money is so generously used.
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(CBS News) As foreign weapons pour into Syria, there are questions as to whether the U.S. policy to not directly arm the rebels has opened the door to more extremist elements gaining influence in the opposition movement.
"There's a sense that the U.S. has lost an opportunity here by taking such a hands-off approach to the Syrian conflict. They really lost the opportunity to influence what's happening on the ground, and to ensure that groups and opposition members who do espouse more democratic values have any real success or power or influence," CBS News correspondent Clarissa Ward, who has reported extensively from the country, said on "CBS This Morning" Monday.
According to a New York Times report Monday, most of the arms being supplied by Saudi Arabia and Qatar to forces fighting the government of President Bashar Assad are going into the hands of hardline Islamic jihadists, not more secular opposition groups - something Ward said is "absolutely" a blow to U.S. strategy there.
The U.S. has espoused the policy of not arming the rebels directly but allowing or possibly assisting in indirectly arming the rebels through countries like these Gulf countries, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The problem, Ward said, is that many private citizens from these countries "don't espouse democratic values per se, but support more militant Islamist groups."
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www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57532264/has-...
US intelligence has known from the onset that Islamic extremists and AlQaeda terrorists are mixed in with these rebels, but lately their number have grown immensely as they are coming over the borders into Syria. These are the same people that murdered 3,000 Americans at the World Trade Center, and recently killed Americans in Benghazi Libya. Western foreign policy is insane.
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635 syrians murdered today by bashar assad, if this continues you will have 100,000 dead syrians by year end. Where is the world? Where is the UN? Russia, china why do you support murdering syrians? What wrong. Did the syrian people do to russia and china that they deserve this murder? China exported to syria billions so why do syrians get such a brutal payback? Russia ihas a base in syria so I could understand thei support for dictator assad, but china? China? Why? What did the syrians do harm to china? Shame on china shame shame'
Another post of lies from a terrorist supporting jewish propagandist.The Syrian government is killing TERRORIST as the entire world knows.The Syrian government is doing what any other government would do if faced with a terrorist force being armed and funded by other countries.They are fighting to protect the country,government,citizens and property of Syria.
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635 syrians murdered today by bashar assad, if this continues you will have 100,000 dead syrians by year end. Where is the world? Where is the UN? Russia, china why do you support murdering syrians? What wrong. Did the syrian people do to russia and china that they deserve this murder? China exported to syria billions so why do syrians get such a brutal payback? Russia ihas a base in syria so I could understand thei support for dictator assad, but china? China? Why? What did the syrians do harm to china? Shame on china shame shame'
You can blame almost all of this on the foreign scumbags who are trying to overthrow the government, and the foreign powers who are instigating, supporting and arming these rebel terrorists! Russia and China know that the West is behind all of this with their quest for "regime change", and that is why they have drawn their red line in the sand.

“Blessed on Earth n under It.”

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We blame it on no one EXCEPT asad. we know how are regimes in such police countries ruled by dictators are controlled by ONE person. He could leave just as Mubarak did and save all that blood shed. he could have listened, since the beginning, to his people and started honest elections watched by truthful agencies. But he didn't. he chose 'I am or no one' and he ruined the country.

he is a war criminal and have to be treated just as a 'WAR CRIMINAL' nothing else.
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<quoted text> You can blame almost all of this on the foreign scumbags who are trying to overthrow the government, and the foreign powers who are instigating, supporting and arming these rebel terrorists! Russia and China know that the West is behind all of this with their quest for "regime change", and that is why they have drawn their red line in the sand.
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The largest refinery is considered The Jamnagar Refinery in India.
And you can 't read the future not in the slightest.
Heck you can't even read the present.
Well, this one will be even bigger. As to read the future, I am afraid I have a good record as nothing is new under the sun. The same arsehole who lived on earth thousands of years ago are still at it, so you can be sure they will behave the same, with the same results. Sorry Avenger!(by the way, what are you avenging?

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