BBC News uses 'Iraq photo to illustrate Syrian massacre'

May 28, 2012 Full story: www.telegraph.co.uk 73

Photographer Marco di Lauro said he nearly "fell off his chair" when he saw the image being used, and said he was "astonished" at the failure of the corporation to check their sources.

he picture, which was actually taken on March 27, 2003, shows a young Iraqi child jumping over dozens of white body bags containing skeletons found in a desert south of Baghdad.

It was posted on the BBC news website today under the heading “Syria massacre in Houla condemned as outrage grows”.

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Since: Dec 10

Seattle

#1 May 28, 2012
Italian photographer:“What I am really astonished by is that a news organization like the BBC doesn't check the sources and it's willing to publish any picture sent it by anyone activist, citizen journalist or whatever. That's all.“Someone is using someone else picture for propaganda on purpose.”

Why is this surprising??? Activists have an agenda and if that agenda is to undermine regimes the west doesn't like whatever the say or produce is taken at face value...I'm still waiting for the evidence that a genocide took place in Kosovo, where are the tens of thousands that were supposedly killed on Milosevic’s orders???

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

Since: Jan 10

Loved everywhere

#2 May 28, 2012
Those killed are already decayed or their organs stored by Alba´s gangs.
ObserverTM

United States

#3 May 28, 2012
Same old bullshit from the BBC. Same tactics stemming back over a decade to Kosovo 'massacres' reported by the KLA and taken verbatim by western media as fact or even staged by the media, such as that infamous Newsweek front cover or the German freelancer staging massacres in the outskirts of Munich for the press (60 Minutes expose), later to be proven false, manipulated or at the least, hyper-exaggerated.

Not to say atrocities aren't happening or that Assad's forces aren't attacking Houla but when this sort of bullshit 'reporting' is being used, all media credibility is lost.

For example, is it true that the majority of civilians killed in Houla were Shiites as has been reported elsewhere? If so, what possible incentive would Alawites have for this? It would point more to al Qaeda or Sunni irregulars. Is the BBC even inquiring of the religious makeup of the victims? I doubt it.

It's a fact that the KLA played to a complaint media and now the Syrian Free Army is doing the same. These are the consequences of having won western support...an escalation of atrocities and civil war, whether intended or not by their supporters.

Enough with the bullshit, BBC et. al. You never seem to learn. Facts, facts and nothing but the facts from you!....We'll make up our own minds, thank you.
ObserverTM

United States

#4 May 28, 2012
-Farah- wrote:
I'm still waiting for the evidence that a genocide took place in Kosovo, where are the tens of thousands that were supposedly killed on Milosevic’s orders???
Tens of thousands?

If you were to believe the hourly rantings of Jamie Shea and Jimmy Rubin on the BBC and CNN, the implication was hundreds of thousands missing and presumed dead. No second-hand reporting here. I heard it all first hand.
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"We keep hearing about the mystery of the "missing" Albanian men from hysterical newscasters and NATO propagandists: where oh where are the young Albanian men in the Great Kosovar Exodus? There is a "strange lack" of fighting-age men among the hundreds of thousands of refugees, they say, and the clear implication is that the Hitlerian Serbs have shipped them off to "death camps" and made them into lampshades. There has, in fact, been an almost frantic search for such "death camps," with fuzzy aerial reconnaissance photos of indeterminate significance and all kinds of speculation treated solemnly as fact. Like the search for evidence of UFOs, however, the quest for hard evidence of "genocide" – a word that has been bandied about quite freely of late – is so far not forthcoming. But the whole tissue of lies begins to come apart, like a cheap sweater, once we begin to pull at the loose ends. For example, the brouhaha about the "missing" Albanian men is a complete hoax. Last week, Jamie Shea demanded "Will the authorities in Belgrade please tell us what has happened to the Kosovo Albanian men between the ages of 16 and 60?" A few hours later, the answer was in: as the Boston Globe put it, "the mystery was not simply where the men had gone, it was why, after days of reports about missing Albanian men, they suddenly appeared to be streaming across the border from Kosovo." By late night on April 3rd, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees confirmed the sudden influx of Kosovar males into Albania and Macedonia. "The reappearance of so many of the presumed dead," caustically observed Globe reporter Anne E. Kornblut, "raised broader questions about the quality of the information NATO officials receive and distribute to the world."
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PS: The Boston Globe was one of the very FEW papers that was actually attempting to report objectively on events at that time. Kudos to the Globe for refusing to take the path of least resistance and actually behave like responsible journalists.

Canuck

Canora, Canada

#5 May 28, 2012
BBC, Fox News, CNN, and most other Western News agencies are nothing more than propaganda and disinformation outlets intended to incite hatred against those countries which do not bow to the wishes of Nato, Israel and the USA.
A powerful tool whose bullsh!t is intended for idiot consumption and there appear to be many.
Canuck

Canora, Canada

#6 May 28, 2012
Pesky army wrote:
Those killed are already decayed or their organs stored by Alba´s gangs.
Interesting and very plausible.
Harvested organs would go a long way to pay for Alba's terrorist gangs operating in Syria.
ObserverTM

United States

#7 May 28, 2012
Further reading discloses that the village attacked was predominantly Sunni with Alawi villages close by. I'd still lke to know what 'predominantly' means and if there was a substantial Alawi minority there.

It's been reported by eye witnesses, men in Syrian army uniform committed the killings. Let's assume they're credible.

1) Syrian troops committed the killings.

2) Local Alawi militia under control of the Syrian Army committed the killings.

3) Local Alawi militia independently committed the killings.

4) The victims were partly or in whole Alawi minority and Sunni insurgents or al Qaeda committed the killings, dressed in Syrian Army uniform.

5) The victims were Sunni and/or Alawi and not targeted by insurgents for their religion but to manufacture an 'event' that would galvanize western opinion into radical action.

So, take you pick to fit your agenda. Will we ever know? Will that even matter?

Such events are replays of the Balkan wars, not to mention Georgia, with everyone cherry-picking events and laying blame to suit their own agendas and let the facts be damned, since they'll never be known with certainty anyway.

Let's just fan the flames and see what happens.

Since: May 08

Kiev-Moscow-St.Peterburg

#8 May 28, 2012
Just a question.
Who is the bastards who killed children?
Pro Ukraine

UK

#9 May 28, 2012
Canuck wrote:
BBC, Fox News, CNN, and most other Western News agencies are nothing more than propaganda and disinformation outlets intended to incite hatred against those countries which do not bow to the wishes of Nato, Israel and the USA.
A powerful tool whose bullsh!t is intended for idiot consumption and there appear to be many.
While RT, Al Jazeera, CCTV only broadcast the truth, LOL, you old commie Canucky fart.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#10 May 28, 2012
M_A_X_I_M wrote:
Just a question.
Who is the bastards who killed children?
Shhh! The above radical posters don't want anybody to know about that. They won't mention it, but they won't condemn it either.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#11 May 28, 2012
ObserverTM wrote:
Further reading discloses that the village attacked was predominantly Sunni with Alawi villages close by. I'd still lke to know what 'predominantly' means and if there was a substantial Alawi minority there.
It's been reported by eye witnesses, men in Syrian army uniform committed the killings. Let's assume they're credible.
1) Syrian troops committed the killings.
2) Local Alawi militia under control of the Syrian Army committed the killings.
3) Local Alawi militia independently committed the killings.
4) The victims were partly or in whole Alawi minority and Sunni insurgents or al Qaeda committed the killings, dressed in Syrian Army uniform.
5) The victims were Sunni and/or Alawi and not targeted by insurgents for their religion but to manufacture an 'event' that would galvanize western opinion into radical action.
So, take you pick to fit your agenda. Will we ever know? Will that even matter?
Such events are replays of the Balkan wars, not to mention Georgia, with everyone cherry-picking events and laying blame to suit their own agendas and let the facts be damned, since they'll never be known with certainty anyway.
Let's just fan the flames and see what happens.
Nice try but your spin won't help this time.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#12 May 28, 2012
-Farah- wrote:
Italian photographer:“What I am really astonished by is that a news organization like the BBC doesn't check the sources and it's willing to publish any picture sent it by anyone activist, citizen journalist or whatever. That's all.“Someone is using someone else picture for propaganda on purpose.”
Why is this surprising??? Activists have an agenda and if that agenda is to undermine regimes the west doesn't like whatever the say or produce is taken at face value...I'm still waiting for the evidence that a genocide took place in Kosovo, where are the tens of thousands that were supposedly killed on Milosevic’s orders???
This is the religion you support? If so you should be hunted down and destroyed like rabid dogs. Among other reasons.

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ObserverTM

United States

#13 May 28, 2012
SWG wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try but your spin won't help this time.
What spin?

It's your spin that's caused this thing to spin out of control.

The insurgents have orgasms whenever you post.
ObserverTM

United States

#14 May 28, 2012
Who is this SWG character anyway?

A bleeding heart liberal or a brick-headed conservative.

They ally from time to time, you know.
ObserverTM

United States

#15 May 28, 2012
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>Shhh! The above radical posters don't want anybody to know about that. They won't mention it, but they won't condemn it either.
So, you know?

Please - tell us, don't keep the world in suspense.
ObserverTM

United States

#16 May 28, 2012
Suffice it to say that neither of the above two deadheads knows much about guerrilla tactics.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#17 May 28, 2012
ObserverTM wrote:
<quoted text>
What spin?
It's your spin that's caused this thing to spin out of control.
The insurgents have orgasms whenever you post.
What spin is that Skippy? I didn't go in and kill innocent women and children using artillery and rockets. Aside from that who are you? You ask the question of me so you can answer the same yourself. A Syrian army apologist perhaps?

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#18 May 28, 2012
ObserverTM wrote:
Suffice it to say that neither of the above two deadheads knows much about guerrilla tactics.
I probably know more about them than you do sport.
ObserverTM

United States

#19 May 28, 2012
Sure you do.

Tell me, what signal does this send to the insurgents?

"The United States Joint Chiefs of Staff warned that more atrocities could make military intervention more likely."

If you're stumped, spend the twelve bucks and order a copy of "On Guerrilla Warfare" Mao Tse-tung

http://www.amazon.com/On-Guerrilla-Warfare-Ma...
ObserverTM

United States

#20 May 28, 2012
SWG wrote:
<quoted text>
What spin is that Skippy? I didn't go in and kill innocent women and children using artillery and rockets.
You're allowing your emotions to overwhelm your reasoning centers and really should read the news more carefully.

The United Nations has condemned the "indiscriminate and disproportionate use of force", but Maj Gen Robert Mood, the head of the UN Supervision Mission in Syria (UNSMIS), said "the circumstances that led to these tragic killings are still unclear".

He told a closed session of the UN Security Council that there is evidence of tank shelling, artillery fire and "physical abuse". He confirmed that the deaths were from shell shrapnel and gunfire at "point-blank" range, but did not say who the mission thought was responsible for the close-range killing.

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