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Feb 20, 2013 Full story: The Telegraph 109

Bangladesh is presently witnessing widespread upsurge of student power focused on the war-crimes trial of some of those accused of crimes against their fellow citizens in 1971.

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Since: Jan 13

Bristol, UK

#1 Feb 22, 2013
These traitors deserve to die, which sane Muslim would condone of or even think about participating in the killing of three million? And the saddest part is they claim to be Muslims and Bangladeshi just as much as the Mukti Bahini's and the martyrs of 1971 , hang them or tell them to fuck of to the country they supported (Pakistan). I am sure Pakistan would welcome them with open arms as they have done with many other terrorists.

Since: Jun 12

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#2 Feb 26, 2013
Good Thread!

I completely agree, but I think this should actually be put on a Bangladesh is forum, we do need to educate some people about why the Shabagh Movement!

Because some of them think like it was perfectly acceptable to kill rape those people.

I'm just wondering, if we was still East Pakistan!

can you honestly answer me this question bro, would we be prospering or would Bangladesh be oppressed like the Balochstan?

Since: Jan 13

Bristol, UK

#3 Feb 27, 2013
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
Good Thread!
I completely agree, but I think this should actually be put on a Bangladesh is forum, we do need to educate some people about why the Shabagh Movement!
Because some of them think like it was perfectly acceptable to kill rape those people.
I'm just wondering, if we was still East Pakistan!
can you honestly answer me this question bro, would we be prospering or would Bangladesh be oppressed like the Balochstan?
To be honest we would be worse off than Balochistan, they were only spending about 20-30% of their outgoings on Bangladesh, so we would have been worse of financially, then there is the fact that Bangladesh and Pakistan on both sides of India, so they could safely carry out terrorist operations from both side so this would mean many more jihad fanatics in Bangladesh, and thanks to this we would also be victims to drone attacks, this would both discourage foreign investment and also the infrastructure we had already developed would be ruined. There would be many problems too many to list but the main problem would be the Jihad fanatics, these Jihad fanatics would hate all minority religions (much like Pakistan), after separating from them we have managed to control our population, we have managed to become self sufficient in food, we have a stronger currency and our government is working hard to tackle load-shedding, all of these problems are things that the Pakistani government have not even planned out for their own people, so do you really think they would have done it for us? These are only some of the problems there would be many more such as we would share a bad relationship with India, we would be oppressed.

Simply put we are in a much better position being a independent state.

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#4 Mar 1, 2013
Mohammedr51 wrote:
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To be honest we would be worse off than Balochistan, they were only spending about 20-30% of their outgoings on Bangladesh, so we would have been worse of financially, then there is the fact that Bangladesh and Pakistan on both sides of India, so they could safely carry out terrorist operations from both side so this would mean many more jihad fanatics in Bangladesh, and thanks to this we would also be victims to drone attacks, this would both discourage foreign investment and also the infrastructure we had already developed would be ruined. There would be many problems too many to list but the main problem would be the Jihad fanatics, these Jihad fanatics would hate all minority religions (much like Pakistan), after separating from them we have managed to control our population, we have managed to become self sufficient in food, we have a stronger currency and our government is working hard to tackle load-shedding, all of these problems are things that the Pakistani government have not even planned out for their own people, so do you really think they would have done it for us? These are only some of the problems there would be many more such as we would share a bad relationship with India, we would be oppressed.
Simply put we are in a much better position being a independent state.
Thank Allah there is people like you in this world, Just needed re assurance, I thought I was going paranoid there for a minute.

Thanks for re assuring me bro.

Brilliant an informative reply.
Ali

London, UK

#5 Mar 1, 2013
Mohammedr51 wrote:
These traitors deserve to die, which sane Muslim would condone of or even think about participating in the killing of three million? And the saddest part is they claim to be Muslims and Bangladeshi just as much as the Mukti Bahini's and the martyrs of 1971 , hang them or tell them to fuck of to the country they supported (Pakistan). I am sure Pakistan would welcome them with open arms as they have done with many other terrorists.
Are you for real? How can anyone trust a verdict given by a tribunal which is controversial and biased?

Although, I condemn the Killing of innocent people however, we cannot justify killing more innocent people in the name of justice. Let an independent judiciary decide who are guilty without any interference. And let's not forget that not all Razakars were involved in killing people, some were only against independence which is not a crime regardless if we agree or not.

If Shabagh movement were truly independent and cared about the freedom fighters than they should firstly fight for the cause so many people sacrificed their lives. They should fight against corruptions, abductions, killing of civilians in police custody, fight against government interference in judicial matters etc. Why didn't these so called protesters come out to protest against the the padma bridge corruption case or suranjit sen's case?

Isn't it strange that the Shabagh movement is only fighting for government agenda? Jamat leaders are already in trial facing serious allegations which doesn't need protest while the other causes are much more important and asking for a fair trial wouldn't only bring the genuine culprits to books but also restore people's faith in the judicial system.

Also, why are only opposition party leaders being tried while thousands of NON POLITICAL PEOPLE were also involved in this crime? Isn't the government taking us for granted assuming that the people are either too stupid and uniformed to question them or maybe they simply don't care.

Wake up before its too late. It's not about supporting Jamat or any political parties but to tell all political parties that we cannot be fooled anymore and we the people can and will rise against the wrong.
Ali

London, UK

#6 Mar 2, 2013
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Since: Jan 13

Bristol, UK

#7 Mar 2, 2013
Ali wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you for real?
Wake up before its too late. It's not about supporting Jamat or any political parties but to tell all political parties that we cannot be fooled anymore and we the people can and will rise against the wrong.
Although I agree with most of what you have said, politics will always be involved in everything and we will just have to live with it, but now that we have been given the opportunity to kill the killers, just take the opportunity, and even if they were innocent as you say the Jamat have proven they do not deserve to exist or else we will be backward thinking like Pakistan, just look at what they have done to the country because of the verdict, all the violence and riots they caused, do you think this is the correct reaction?
Just look at what they were doing when BNP their closest allies were in power.
Not all Al-Qaeda members killed/kill people they are only against America and the west interfering in their countries affairs, so maybe Al-Qaeda members should be allowed to live freely?

People have waited more than 41 years and now they have been given the opportunity and they have grasped it with both hands, don't you think older matters should be resolved first? 1971 was a very unique case nothing of the such has occurred in the world we were oppressed, we were robbed, we were killed, we were raped, we were deprived and last and the biggest kick in the teeth was the fact that we were forced by America to drop all charges on Pakistan, tell me how anyone of those problems that you have listed can compare to 1971?

Although I agree other matters need to be resolved in Bangladesh, just look at history in the 50's Pakistan tried to prevent us from speaking our own language and then we rebelled and won and then we realized the power we possess so in 1971 we won independence, hopefully after this movement the people of Bangladesh will realize the power they possess and tackle the problems you have listed.

As far as opposing political parties are concerned, in Bangladesh politics is seen as a escape route or even a second job to cover up your crimes, just go to Bangladesh and get involved in a crash, the police will come and upon their arrival all you have to do is take a name of a politician and say he is my mama, sasa, abba or whatever else and the police will salute you and let you off, this applies to pretty much anything, it is just the mentality that has been embedded into people of Bangladesh, but now the youths are starting to wake up.

To be honest all the political parties of Bangladesh are corrupt and only look for their own benefit, not the peoples remember in Fakhruddin's Ahmed's attempt to reform the political parties by exiling Hasina and Zia, but they backed down amid domestic and international protestations. Hasina, who had been visiting her children in the US, was allowed to return but she faced serious charges, including involvement in the assassination of four political rivals. In July, she was taken into custody after two businessmen testified that she had extorted &#2547;80 million (US$1.16 million) from them. This provoked angry protests from her supporters; even her bitter rival Khaleda Zia, as well as six British MPs and MEPs, called for her release. Khaleda herself faces charges of tax evasion. These people only look out for themselves not the people of Bangladesh, but to be honest I would much rather have BNP in power rather than Awami League, Jamat because as soon as someone disagrees with them, they resort to riots, if they really cared for the people then they would be aware of the negative effect this would have on Bangladesh and it's residents.

Since: Jun 12

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#8 Mar 2, 2013
Ali wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you for real? How can anyone trust a verdict given by a tribunal which is controversial and biased?
Although, I condemn the Killing of innocent people however, we cannot justify killing more innocent people in the name of justice. Let an independent judiciary decide who are guilty without any interference. And let's not forget that not all Razakars were involved in killing people, some were only against independence which is not a crime regardless if we agree or not.
If Shabagh movement were truly independent and cared about the freedom fighters than they should firstly fight for the cause so many people sacrificed their lives. They should fight against corruptions, abductions, killing of civilians in police custody, fight against government interference in judicial matters etc. Why didn't these so called protesters come out to protest against the the padma bridge corruption case or suranjit sen's case?
Isn't it strange that the Shabagh movement is only fighting for government agenda? Jamat leaders are already in trial facing serious allegations which doesn't need protest while the other causes are much more important and asking for a fair trial wouldn't only bring the genuine culprits to books but also restore people's faith in the judicial system.
Also, why are only opposition party leaders being tried while thousands of NON POLITICAL PEOPLE were also involved in this crime? Isn't the government taking us for granted assuming that the people are either too stupid and uniformed to question them or maybe they simply don't care.
Wake up before its too late. It's not about supporting Jamat or any political parties but to tell all political parties that we cannot be fooled anymore and we the people can and will rise against the wrong.
ARE YOU FOR REAL?
LOOK WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING ON THE STREETS OF BANGLADESH FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS! for your information its a daily diary,then will you kindly give a constructive comment!

PM in ‘foreign power’ jibe at Khaleda on war crime
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said on Saturday that BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia ‘sided’ with the Jamaat-e-Islami and ‘war criminals’ at the instance of the foreign powers.
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/02/pm-in...

Minorities resent ‘Jamaat attacks’The Hindu Buddha Christian Oikya Parishad formed a human chain in Chittagong Saturday to protest what they called ‘heinous attacks’ by Jamaat-e-Islami and Islami Chhatra Shibir on the country’s minority communities in the wake of the death verdict for Jamaat leader Delwar Hossain Sayedee
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/02/min...

HRW calls for restrain in Bangladesh,
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/02/hrw...

‘Touhidi Janata’ leaflets from BNP rally
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/02/touhi...
Its funny how Khaleda is getting a taste of her own medicine now.

‘Attack on minorities govt tactic’ Its funny how the BNP changes its stance, what did they do when they were in government when temples were burning down by the very party they support the Jamaat-e-Islami,just recently attacked a couple of Hindu Communities.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/02/att...

1 killed in Nilphamari clash
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/02/1-k...

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#9 Mar 2, 2013
BNP unleashes terror in Dhaka,Activists of and supporters of the opposition BNP went berserk in the capital, torching and vandalising vehicles and blasting crude bombs in Malibagh, Mouchak and Shantinagar areas Saturday afternoon ahead of a three-day shutdown called by the party and its ally Jamaat-e-Islami separately.
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/02/bnp-u...

"Rajib Murder Cracked"
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/02/raj...

Police shot in Rajshahi
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/02/polic...

Satkania clashes kill 2
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/02/satka...

Shibir men go berserk in Comilla
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/02/shibi...

Bagerhat, Barisal Hindu temples set ablaze
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/02/bag...

‘Shahbagh upset with BNP’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/01/sha...

‘She is with war criminals’
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/01/she-i...

Khaleda attacks Shahbagh uprising
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/01/kha...

Khaleda backs Jamaat's ‘resistance’
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/01/khale...

‘Ganajagaran Mancha’ vows to resist strikes
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/01/ganaj...

Shopkeeper beaten to death in Gaibandha
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/01/sho...

‘BNP out to protect war criminals’
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/03/01/bnp-o...

‘Sabotage bid to halt war crimes trial’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/03/01/sab...

No relief until execution: witnesses
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/no-...

Sayedee’s 200 minutes
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/say...

Protesters call Shahbagh rally Friday
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/pro...

Two murders that got Sayedee the gallows
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/28/two-m...

Grenade on busy road defused
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/gre...

’Verdict established rule of law’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/ver...

Jamaat unleashes violence, 35 killed
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/jam...

Jamaat men attack Hindus in Noakhali
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/jam...

Jamaat attacks Sylhet police
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/jam...

BNP silent on Sayedee verdict
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/28/bnp-s...

Rangpur clash kills 3
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/ran...

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#10 Mar 2, 2013
Police defusing live grenade
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/pol...

Clashes in Chittagong
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/cla...

‘New Bangladesh in the making’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/new...

Post-verdict clashes in Rajshahi
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/pos...

Alert in West Bengal
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/ale...

Jamaat defence to appeal
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/jam...

2 die in Sirajganj clashes
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/2-d...

Jubilation at Shahbagh
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/jub...

Baitul Mukarram gate closed for Fridays(This one you should read jamaat nearly set fire to a Mosque)
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/bai...

Sayedee indictment order
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/say...

‘Shikdar turned Sayedee’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/shi...

Sayedee to hang
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/say...

Bombs seized from train
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/bom...

Ten injured in Sirajganj clash
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/ten...

Slogans, marches to hang Sayedee
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/slo...

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#11 Mar 2, 2013
Rajshahi calm in strike
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/raj...

ICT security beefed up
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/ict...

Thousands join anti-strike march
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/tho...

Lukewarm response to Jamaat strike
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/28/lukew...

BNP vows to save Mahmudur
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/27/bnp-v...

‘Whole of Bangladesh is now Shahbagh’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/who...

Jamaat attacks footballers
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/jam...

Charges against Sayedee
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/cha...

Shibir men beaten up in Rajshahi for firing blank shots and exploding crude bombs
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/shi...

‘Ganjagaran’ asks nation to defy strike
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/gan...

SUST Press Club work suspended
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/sus...

Protesters plan march on verdict day
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/pro...

BNP counsels fined in ICT
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/bnp...

Shahbagh goes to Motijheel
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/sha...

Jamaat strike on Thursday
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/jam...

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#12 Mar 2, 2013
Sayedee's 'Razakar' role established: ICT
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/say...

Shahbagh welcomed in India
http://bdnews24.com/world/2013/02/27/shahbagh...

Popular singer Kabir Suman's mail account has been hacked and he is blaming Jamaat-e-Islami for that.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/27/kab...

‘Azam wanted polls in ‘71’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/aza...

PM’s village prescription to ophthalmologists
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/pms...

‘Jamaat spreading propaganda’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/jam...

ICT grants 3 Jamaat leaders more time
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/ict...

‘Steps against Mahmudur soon’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/ste...

Memo for Mahmudur's arrest given
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/mem...

Youngsters approach Home Minister for arrest of Amar Desh Acting Editor Mahmudur Rahman
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/you...

Ghulam Azam denied bail
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/ghu...

Thousands signing up
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/tho...

Dhaka Jamaat procession thwarted
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/dha...

Magura Jamaat Chief nabbed
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/mag...

More Coco money on way
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/26/mor...

Bogra ‘vandal’ leads procession
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/bog...

Since: Jun 12

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#13 Mar 2, 2013
Uprising waves hit Mirpur
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/upr...

‘Stop Shahbagh demo’Hefazat-e-Islam Bangladesh, a key ally of Jamaat-e-Islami, on Monday gave the government three days to stop the Shahbagh demonstrations, or else, face anarchy.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/sto...

‘Nurani Chapa’ not Rajib’s
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/nur...

Islami Bank seeks help from central bank
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/isl...

‘Islam and Jamaat not the same thing’
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/25/islam...

Roads around Shahbag open
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/roa...

Blasts at ‘Janatar Mancha’ in B'baria
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/bla...

Hindus ‘conspirators’: Ghulam Azam
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/hin...

Protesters to submit memo to Home Minister
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/pro...

HC judge faces inquiry,President Mohammad Zillur Rahman on Monday approved setting up of a Supreme Judicial Council to investigate a High Court judge for his alleged smear campaign against the slain Shahbagh protester Ahmed Rajib Haider.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/hc-...

Mirpur rally ready to roll
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/mir...

Mobarak charges proposed
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/mob...

Cabinet clears Children Act draft
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/cab...

Pranab to visit in-laws in Narail
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/25/pra...

Jamaat MP charged for Editor attack
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/24/jamaa...

Strikers absent from streets,Activists from 12 small parties were barely present during Sunday’s shutdown called against the Shahbagh movement despite support from Jamaat-e-Islami and BNP.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/str...

Kader draws flak from sibling,Jute Minister Abdul Latif Siddiqui castigated his younger brother Kader Siddiqui for ‘siding with war criminals’ in the light of his (Kader) recent comments that waged a controversy among politicians and the general public.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/kad...

Strike failed, claims Alamgir,Home Minister MK Alamgir on Sunday claimed attempts by the 12 small parties to enforce a nationwide daylong strike ‘failed’ even though it was backed by the BNP and the Jamaat-e-Islami.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/str...

Jamaat, BNP offices vandalised,The offices of Jamaat-e-Islami and BNP were vandalised in Cox’s Bazar’s Pekua on Sunday after a leader of the Awami Swecchasebak League was shot.
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/24/jamaa...

One of the organisers of Ganajagaran Mancha at Shahbagh, Bappaditya Basu, on Sunday filed a police complaint against Bengali daily Amar Desh and its Acting Editor Mahmudur Rahman for ‘running false and motivated
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/bap...

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#14 Mar 2, 2013
‘Only Jamaat will be banned’The Awami League-led government had no plans to ban all religion-based political parties, its Presidium Member Sheikh Fazlul Karim Selim said on Sunday.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/onl...

Anti-strike activists dominate streets
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/ant...

Strike evokes little response in Rajshahi
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/str...

Yunus pitches for Rohingyas
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/yun...

We hate Jamaat more than AL: Hamidi
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/24/we-ha...

Pro-BNP, Jamaat newspapers snatched,A group of youths snatched away all copies of Amar Desh, Naya Diganta and Sangram on Sunday morning at Netrokona, saying they will not allow papers inciting religious passions to be sold
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/pro...

Chittagong quiet during strike
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/chi...

Rally back at Shahbagh
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/ral...

Trains, buses, ferries run,The shutdown on Sunday called by the 12 small parties with endorsement from BNP and Jamaat-e-Islami saw barely any action on streets.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/24/tra...

Molla ‘low and worried’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/mol...

Govt to guard devout Muslims: minister
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/gov...

FBCCI calls Sunday’s shutdown ‘illogical’
http://d30fl32nd2baj9.cloudfront.net/media/20...

‘A true Muslim can never do this’
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/a-t...

AG to lead appeal against Molla verdict
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/ag-...

Protesters vow to prevent Sunday shutdown
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/pro...

Case filed for desecrating Shaheed Minar
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/cas...

Rayerbazar rally begins
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/ray...

BNP extends support to Sunday's strike
http://bdnews24.com/politics/2013/02/23/bnp-e...

Mahmudur Rahman, Acting Editor of pro-BNP “Amar Desh” has been implicated in five cases, accused of whipping up religious passions and incitement to cause public disorder.
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/cas...

Shibir website hacked
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/23/shi...

‘Jamaat’ triggers waves of violence
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/22/jam...

If you want to know what has been happening in Bangladesh for the last 10 days click on to link below.
http://bdnews24.com/news/

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#15 Mar 2, 2013
Ali wrote:
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Are you for real? How can anyone trust a verdict given by a tribunal which is controversial and biased?
Although, I condemn the Killing of innocent people however, we cannot justify killing more innocent people in the name of justice.
How can Jamaat-e-Islami and BNP be innocent when they are the ones who are causing the Vandalism (with crude bombs and guns)in the first place?

Which is causing disorder in Bangladesh, how can Mister Sayedee be innocent when he is and was enticing religious hatred?

due to the direction of people like him to the Pakistani forces had killed millions of Bengalis.

ok there weren't many witnesses fair enough, it's been 42 years since the war finished most of them are dead, how do you expect to dig up witnesses from 1971?

The people of Bangladesh knows the history of their struggle, they are emotionally lead by this history, their parents were the witness for the birth of Bangladesh.

In the UK you will not have reminders or museums of this struggle where as in Bangladesh you will, like Museums,Pictures,Photo's,and off course the Flag in their face,you should watch a movie called the "Clay Bird",its about the history and the struggle off Bangladesh, this movie was banned during BNP rule.

Sayedee indictment order!

A.K.M. Zaheer Ahmed(Member) of the International Crimes Tribunal hereby charge you accused Delwar Hossain Sayeedi @ Delu @ Dellya @ Abu Nayeem Mohammad Delwar Hossain@ Allama Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, son of late Yusuf Ali Sikder of Village South Khali, police station-Indurkani, District-Pirojpur, at present 914, Shaheed Bag, Police station-Motijheel, District-Dhaka.

Charge No.1- That on 4th May, 1971 you as a member of a group of individuals as well as a member of peace (santi) committee gave secret information to the Pakistan Army in the morning about the gathering of some people behind the Madhya Masimpur bus stand and after their arrival you took them to the back Madhya Masimpur bus stand under Pirojpur Sadar Police Station and in a planned way you killed 20 unnamed civilian people by firing which is murder as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crime of murder as crimes against humanity punishable under section 3(2)(a) of the International Crimes (Tribunal) Act, 1973, hereinafter referred to as the Act.

Since: Jun 12

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#16 Mar 2, 2013
Charge No.2:- That on 04.05.1971 in broad daylight, you alnong with your accomplices accompanied with Pakistani Army went to Masimpur Hindur Para under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and by riding those houses of Hindu people looted their goods and destroyed their houses by setting fire. On being frightened while the unnamed civilian people started to flee away then you and your team members opened fire on them indiscriminately pursuant to pre-arranged plan and thereby killed 13(thirteen) civilians, namely Sarat Chandra Mondol, Bijoy Mistri, Opendranath, Jogendranath Mistri, Surendra Nath Mistri, Motilal Mistri, Jogeshwar Mondol, Suresh Mondol and 5 others unidentified civilian people with intent to destroy in whole or in part members of Hindu religious group which amounts to genocide. The act of looting goods and destroying houses by fire are considered as persecutions as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes of genocide and persecution punishable under section 3(2)(c)(i) and 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 3:- That on the same date on 04.05.1971 you led a team of Pakistani Army to Masimpur Hindu Para and looted goods from the houses of Monindra Nath Mistri and Suresh Chandra Mondol and completely destroyed their houses by setting fire. You also directly took part in causing large scale destruction by setting fire on the road side houses of villages namely Kalibari, Masimpur, Palpara, Sikarpur, Razarhat, Kukarpara, Dumur Tola, Kalamtola, Nawabpur, Alamkuthi, Dhukigathi, Parerha and Chinrakhali and these Acts are considered as persecution against civilian population on religious grounds.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes of persecution punishable under section 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 4:- That on 4th May, 1971 you with your accomplices accompanied with Pakistani Army in a planned way surrounded the Hindu Para located in front of Dhopa Bari and behind the LGED Building under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station with intent to destroy the members of Hindu Community, opened fire indiscriminately on the unnamed Hindu civilians and thereby killed Debendra Nath Mondol, Jogendranath Mondol, Pulin Behari and Mukunda Bala by gun-shot with intent to destroy a religious group and such acts amount to genocide.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes of genocide punishable under section 3(2)(c)(i) of the Act.

Charge No. 5:- That Mr. Saif Mizanur Rahman, the then Deputy Magistrate of Pirozpur Sub-Division (now District) organized Sarbo Dalio Sangram Parishad to inspire the people for participating in the War of Liberation. Knowing this fact, you declared publicity to arrest him for his pro-liberation activities. On 5th May, 1971 you along with your associate Monnaf (now deceased), the member of Peace (santi) Committee accompanied with some members of Pakistani Army riding on a Military Jeep went to Pirozpur Hispital at noon where Mr. Saif Mizanur Rahman was into hiding.

In order to execute the pre-arranged plan, one of you, identified him to the Pakistani Army who picked him up from the hospital to the bank of river Baleshwar. As a part of the plan on the same date and time, Mr. Foyezur Rahman Ahmed, Sub-Divisional Police officer, and Mr. Abdur Razzak(S.D.O. in charge of Pirojpur) were also arrested from their work place and taken to the bank of the said river. You as a member of the killer party were present there and all the three civilian government officers were gunned down and their dead bodies were thrown into the river Boleshwar. You directly participated and abetted in the acts of abduction, and killing of those three officers, which is crimes against humanity and abatement of killing.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under section 3(2)(a) and 3(2)(g) of the Act.

Since: Jun 12

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#17 Mar 2, 2013
Charge No. 6:- That on 7th May, 1971 you led a team of Peace (Santi) Committee to receive Pakistani Army at Parerhat Bazar under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station, then you identified the houses and shops of the people belonging to Awami Legue, Hindu Community and supporters of the Liberation War. You as one of the perpetrators raided those shops and houses and looted away valuable including 22 seers of gold and silver from the shop of Makhanlal Shaha. These acts are considered as crime of persecution on political and religious grounds as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes of persecution punishable under section 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 7:- That on 8th May, 1971 at about 1.30 p.m. you led a team of armed accomplices accompanied with Pakistani Army raided the house of Shahidul Islam Selim, son of Nurul Islam Khan of village Baduria under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and you identified Nurul Islam Khan as an Awami League leader and his son Shahidul Islam Selim a freedom-fighter, then you detained Nurul Islam Khan and handed over him to Pakistani Army who tortured him and after looting away goods from his house, you destroyed that house by setting fire. The act destruction of the house by fire is considered as crime of persecution as crimes against humanity on political ground and you also abetted in the torture of Nurul Islam Khan by the Pakistani Army.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under sections 3(2)(a) and 3(2)(g) of the Act.

Charge No. 8:- That on 8th May, 1971 at about 3.00 p.m. under your leadership you and your accomplices accompanied with Pakistani Army raided the house of Manik Posari of village-Chitholia under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and caught his brother Mofizuddin and one Ibrahim @ Kutti therefrom. At your instance other accomplices after pouring kerosene oil on five houses, those were burnt to ashes causing a great havoc. On the way to Army Camp, you instigated Pakistani Army who killed Ibrahim @ Kutti by gun-shot and the dead body was dumped near a bridge, then Mofiz was taken to army Camp and was tortured. Thereafter, you and others set fire on the houses of Hindu community at Parerhat Bandar causing huge devastations. The acts of looting goods and setting fire on dwelling houses are considered as persecution as crimes against humanity on religious ground. You directly participated in the occurrences of abduction, murder and persecution which are identified as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under sections 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 9:- That on 02.06.1971 at about 9.00 a.m. under your leadership with your armed associates accompanied with Pakistani Army raided the house of Abdul Halim Babul of village-Nolbunia under Indurkani Police Station and looted away valuables, then set the house on fire to ashes. The acts of burning house to ashes and looting goods therefrom are considered as persecution as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under sections 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 10:- That on the same day i.e. 02.06.1971 at about 10.00 a.m. under your leadership with your armed associates accompanied with Pakistani Army raided the Hindu Para of village-Umedpur under Indurkani Police Station you burnt 25 houses including houses of Chitta Ranjan Talukder, Jahar Talukder, Horen Tagore Anil Mondol, Bisabali, Sukabali, Satish Bala and others. At one stage Bisabali was tied to a coconut tree and at your insistence Bisabali was shot to dead by your accomplice. The act of burning dwelling houses of unarmed civilians is considered as persecution. You directly participated in the acts of burning houses and killing of Bisabali which is persecution and murder within the purview of crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under section 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Since: Jun 12

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#18 Mar 2, 2013
Charge No. 11:- That on the same day i.e. on 02.06.1971, you led a team of Peace (shanti) Committee members accompanied with Pakistani occupied forces raided the houses of Mahbubul Alam Howlader (freedom-fighter) of village-Tengra Khali under Indurkani Police Station and you detained his elder brother Abdul Mazid Howlader and tortured him. Thereafter, you looted cash money, jewellery and other valuables from their houses and damaged the same. You directly participated in the acts of looting valuables and destroying houses which are considered as persecution on political grounds, and also torture.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes of torture and persecution punishable under sections 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 12:- That during liberation war on one day a group of 15/20 armed accomplices under your leadership entered the Hindu Para of Parerhat Bazar under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and captured 14 Hiddus namely Horolal Malakar, Aoro Kumer Mirza, Taronikanta Sikder, Nando Kumer Sikder and others, all were civilians and supporters of Bangladesh independence. You tied them with a single rope and dragged them to Pirozpur and handed over them to Pakistani Military where they were killed and bodies were thrown into the river. This act was directed against a civilian population with intent to destroy in whole or part of a religious group, which is genocide.

Thus, you have committed the said offence of genocide punishable under section 3(2)(c)(i) of the Act.

Charge No. 13:- That about 2/3 months after the start of the Liberation War, on one night under your leadership some members of Peace Committee accompanied with the Pakistani Army raided the house of Azhar Ali of village-Nalbunia under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and then caught and tortured Azhar Ali and his son Shaheb Ali. Thereafter, you abducted Shaheb Ali and ultimately he was taken to Pirozpur and after killing him threw his dead body in the river. The acts of murder, torture, and abduction as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under sections 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 14:- That during the last part of the Liberation War, you led a team of Razakar Bahini consisting of 50 to 60, in the morning of the day of occurrence in a planned way you attacked Hindu Para of Hoglabunia under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station. On seeing them Hindu people managed to flee away but Shefali Gharami the wife of Modhu Sudhan Gharami could not flee away, then some members of Razakar Bahini entering into her room raped Shefali Gharami. Being the leader of the team you did not prevent them in committing rape upon her. Thereafter you and members of your team set-fire on the dwelling houses of the Hindu Para of village–Hoglabunia resulting complete destruction of houses of the Hindu civilians. The act of destruction of houses in the Hindu Para by burning in a large scale is considered a crime of persecution on religious ground and the act of raping both as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under sections 3(2)(a) and 3(2)(g) and 3(2)(h) of the Act.

Charge No. 15:- That during the last part of liberation war, 1971 you led 15/20 armed Razakars under your leadership and entered into the village-Hoglabunia under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station, caught 10(ten) Hindu civilians namely Toroni Sikder, Nirmol Sikder, Shyamkanto Sikder, Banikanto Sikder, Horolal Sikder, Prokash Sikder and others. You then tied all of them with a single rope with intent to kill and dragged them to Pirozpur and handed over them to the Pakistani Army where they all were killed and the bodies were thrown in the river. This conduct was directed against a population with intent to destroy a religious group which is genocide.

Thus, you have committed an offence of genocide punishable under section 3(2)(c)(i) of the Act.

Since: Jun 12

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#19 Mar 2, 2013
Charge No. 16:- That during the time of liberation war in 1971, you led a group of 10-12 armed Razakars and peace Committee members and surrounded the house of Gowranga Saha of Parerhat Bandor under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station Subsequently you and others abducted (i) Mohamaya (ii) Anno Rani (iii) Komol Rani the sisters ofGowranga Saha and handed over them to Pakistani Army Camp at Pirozpur where they were confined and raped for three days before release. You are directly involved in abetting the offence of abduction, confinement and rape as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed an offence of abduction, confinement and rape which are punishable under section 3(2)(a) and 3 (2)(g) of the Act.

Charge No. 17:- That during the time of liberation war in 1971, you along with other armed Razakars kept confined Bipod Shaha’s daughter Vanu Shaha at Bipod Shaha’s house at Parerhat under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and regularly used to go there to rape her. This was committed by force or by threat and directed against a civilian population.

Thus, you have committed an offence of rape under section 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 18:- That during the liberation war, Vagirothi used to work in the camp of Pakistani Army. On one day, after a fight with the freedom fighters, and at the instance of you, said Bhagirothi was arrested on charge of passing information to the freedom fighters and was tortured and then after taking her to the bank of river Boleshwar she was killed and the dead body was thrown into the river.

Thus, you have committed an offence of abetment of torture and murder under section 3(2)(a)(g) of the Act.

Charge No 19:-That during the period of Liberation War starting from 26.03.1971 to 16.12.1971 you being a member of Razakar Bahini, by exercising your influence over Hindu community of the then Pirozpur Subdivision (now Pirozpur District) converted the following Hindus to Muslims by force namely (1) Modhusudan Gharami (2) Kristo Saha (3) Dr. Gonesh Saha (4) Azit Kumar Sil,(5) Bipod Saha,(6) Narayan Saha,(7) Gowranga Pal,(8) Sunil Pal,(9) Narayan Pal,(10) Amullya Hawlader,(11) Hari Roy,(12) Santi Roy Guran,(13) Fakir Das and (14) Tona Das (15) Gouranga saha (16) his father Haridas (17) his mother and three sisters (18) Mahamaya,(19) Annorani and(20) Kamalrani and other 100/150 Hindus of village-Parerhat and other villages under Pirozpur Sadar Police Station and you also compelled them to go the mosque to say prayers. The act of compelling somebody to convert his own religious belief to another religion is considered as an inhuman act which are treated as crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under sections 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Charge No. 20:- That one day in the last part of November, 1971 you got the information that thousands of civilian people were fleeing to neighbour country India in order to save their lives. Then under your leadership a Razakar Bahini consisting of 10-12 armed forces, in a planned way, attacked the houses of Talukdar Bari in the village-Indurkani under Indurkani Police Station and detained total 85 persons and looted away goods therefrom. Then you dragged them to local Razakar camp. Except 10-12 persons, the rest of the persons were released on taking bribe negotiated by Fazlul Huq a member of Razakar Bahini. Male persons were tortured and female persons including Dipali, daughter of Khagendra Nath Saha Talukder, Niva Rani, wife of Khagendra Nath Saha Talukder and Maya Rani daughter of Rajballav Saha and others were raped by Pakistani Army deployed in the camp. You directly participated in the acts of abduction, torture and abated the offence of rape which fall within the purview of the crimes against humanity.

Thus, you have committed the said crimes punishable under section 3(2)(a) of the Act.

Since: Jun 12

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#20 Mar 2, 2013
The aforesaid charges of crimes brought against you are punishable under the provision of section 3(2) of the Act and within the cognizance and jurisdiction of this Tribunal. And we hereby direct you to be tried by this Tribunal on the said charges. You have heard and understood the aforesaid charges.

Q Are you guilty or not-guilty ?

Ans.

The charges are read over and explained to the accused on dock who pleaded not guilty and claimed to be tried.

To 30-10-2011 for opening statement of the prosecution and examination of prosecution witnesses. The trial shall be continuing on every working days until further order. The defence counsel is also directed to submit a list of witnesses, if any, along with four sets of documents thereof, which the defence intends to rely upon by the date fixed.

http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/02/28/say...

Ok let's presume the so called Jamaat-e-Islami and their clan like Sayedee is innocent!

Although two of the crimes have been proven! however the rest of the 20 charges are say questionable, but having said that most of the witnesses are dead they can't speak from the grave can they now,since it's been 42 years.

All these witnesses are in mass graves.

Just a question would you like this party to be banned or would you like them to rule Bangladesh!

Then if you think they should?, I think you should bring them to the UK! and let the people in the UK Feel their Violence and hatred.

Or you should go to Pakistan and feel this kind of Religious Politics that is ruining their country.

Or maybe you should go to Pakistan and join this kind of Politics, Politics is corrupt anyway, will never get an honest politician, that's why I say religion and politics should never mix.

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