Genealogy Query - ASCROFT : BUSSELL : FULKE-GREVILLE : GREVILLE : STAR

Nov 7, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Cousinconnect.com

Christoher Fulke Greville and his elder brother the Cornwall artist Anthony Greville are tracing the authenticity of their fathers birth to Charles Beresford Fulke Greville 3rd Baron Greville.

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Guy Fulke Grevill

Egham, UK

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Nov 10, 2012
 
Rather amazed this has come to light after so many years of remaining hidden under the carpet,so to speak.
It was understood in certain quarters of the Greville family and the Cloughs of Petermaritzburg,Natal,that Peter Charles Algernon Greville Ascroft was in fact a second son of the 3rd Baron Greville Charles Beresford Fulke Greville.
We knew Peter Greville Ascroft married an Irene Andrews in 1940 and had a child Anthony Star later naming himself Anthony Greville the Cornwall Artist.This marriage dissolved because of his wife Irenes infidelity with an American serviceman culminating in the birth of her son while her husband was serving abroad in the war.
Peter Charles Algernon Greville Ascroft reverted to his real fathers name after the war and in the 1950s he married for a second time and had five children,the eldest being Christopher Fulke Greville who we met when he was just a young boy living in Nottingham.
There is certainly some of the family who dought Anthony Greville claiming such titles,questions would arise about his birth and if he was successful,he has never married and has no children so the bloodline would go to Peter Grevilles heirs.
We wish him success as this great family of the Grevilles are an ancient breed with many skeletons in our cupboards.
Guy Fulke Grevill

Egham, UK

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Nov 12, 2012
 
What is of interest and may need to be cleared up is that Cecil Violet Enid Greville married a Charles Walmer Ascroft in 1912 at Petermaritzburg by the Rev berry.
It was a prestige event with many noted names from the Aristocracy and goverment officials attending at the home of the Cloughs.
We are not sure what happened to Charles Walmer Ascroft,but we can verify that Cecil Violet Enid Greville went back to England with her father Major Brooke Greville Kings Messenger in 1913.
They lived in Knightsbridge and many of the Greville family worked for the War office during WW1.
Cecil Violets boss was her uncle 3rd Baron Greville of Cloyne,Charles Beresford Fulke Greville who not only worked close together they also had many Greville social gatherings in the London area.
The relationship happened during 1914/15 and Cecil Violet fell pregnant.It was deemed best if she was placed in the country during her pregnancy,saving much embarrassment to certain family members as 3rd Baron Greville was married with an heir born in 1912.
Cecil Violet Enid Ascroft lived alone with a nanny and servants at a 15 bedroomed manor called Longfield House,Ankerwycke Priory situated on the estate of her cousins the Harcourts of Ankerwycke.
She gave birth to her son in 1916 and named him Peter Charles Algernon Greville Ascroft.
At the age of four she put him into a private boys school,while she returned back to London and rejoined the aristocratic social scene.,residing at Beughfort Gardens,Knightsbridge and Revells Hall,Bengeo the house of her father Major Brooke Greville.
Cecil Violet Enid Ascroft (Greville) remarried a second time in 1927 Air Vice Marshal Edward Irvine Bussell CBE.
Peter Charles Algernon Greville Ascroft joined the Royal Tank Corps until his stepfather Bussell used his powers to remove him and made him join the RAF where he went on to fly fighters with his cousins Pat Greville-Moran shot down and killed in Belgium,and Hugh Greville-Morris who passed away in 2012.
Peter found out from his great aunty Lady Katherine Greville who centred around the family mystery and got permission to change his name to Peter Charles Algernon Fulke GREVILLE in 1948.
Guy Fulke Grevill

Egham, UK

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Nov 18, 2012
 
Its certainly a mystery as to why Debretts and Burkes Peerage where not informed of the first marriege in 1912 of Cecil Violet Enid Greville and Charles Walmer Ascroft.

Its also a mystery as to why the birth of Peter Charles Algernon Greville Ascroft born 1916 was not notified to Debretts abd Burkes Peerage.

Its also a mystery as to why Debretts and Burkes Peerage printed that Cecil Violet Enid Greville was married first in 1927 to Air Vice Marshal Edward Irvine Bussell printed Russell) when in fact this was her second marriage.
Guy Fulke Grevill

Egham, UK

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Nov 18, 2012
 
Another mystery is that Charles Walmer Ascroft was in fact Charles Walmer Harcourt Ascroft,son of Otto Simon Henry Harcourt of the Harcourts of Ankerwycke.

Charles Walmer Harcourt Ascroft being related to the James Jennings family of Blauuwbank Gold Mines,Magaliesberg,Natal.

Its been indicated that Charles Walmer Harcourt Ascroft aged 17 inherited major shares of the Blauuwbank Gold Mines at Magaliesberg when he married Cecil Violet Enid Greville in 1912 at Petermaritzburg.
Charles Walmer Harcourt Ascroft was swindled out of his gold mine by his solicitor James Symons or James Simmons of Johanesburg in 1913,he was also the solicitor for his father-in-law Major Brooke Southwell Greville.

Charles Walmer Harcourt Ascroft then went missing.

Its a mystery as to how and why his father-in-law Major Brooke Southwell Greville Hon Kings Messenger suddenly became a share holder in this Blauuwbank Gold Mine,returning back to England in 1913 with his daughter Cecil Violet Enid Ascroft formerly Greville.
Peter Fulke Greville

Egham, UK

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Dec 7, 2012
 
I think you all ought to know that this artist Anthony Greville is to be arrested for stalking a 94 year old man who is a Greville family member.
The arrest warrant for Anthony Greville,real name of Anthony Studham Ascroft,we understand is to be for harrassment and threats to kill members of this 94 year old mans family.
Shocking to say the least,but we all knew Anthony Greville was rather deranged
Guy Fulke Greville

Egham, UK

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Dec 24, 2012
 
Pete you will find that Anthony Greville,birth name Anthony Studham Ascroft is in Australia over the winter and he comes back to the UK in the spring.The Greville family member who AKA Anthony Greville stalked is his mums first husband Peter a 94 year old man.
It seems that when this old man Peter Charles Fulke Greville died Anthony Studham Ascroft AKA Anthony Greville started to then stalk this relatives family.
Anthony Studham Ascroft has got it into his head he wants to become a Greville,so he has called himself Anthony Greville pretending that Peter Charles Fulke Greville was his dad,not Mr Studham who his mum Irene Ascroft had an affair with.
Anthony Greville is pretty deluded.

The latest we have now heard from South Africa is that Anthony Greville has also called himself Anthony Clough,Anthony Bussel and Tony Star,gosh he does have a lot of Daddies.
Pat

London, UK

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Feb 9, 2013
 
Peter and Guy - YOU ARE Chris Fulke Greville and I claim my 5. I read all about your filthy crimes and impersonations in the Daily Mail and every decent person will agree that you are a low life peasant: http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2006...

Oh there is also some good stuff about all your crimes on Conchasers Blog.
Caroline Morris

Egham, UK

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Feb 25, 2013
 
The last poster called Pat is really this pervert Anthony Greville as the ID comes up as the same in his blogs conchaser and others.
How dare you Anthony Greville beat up my 95 year old uncle Peter.You damn well stay in Australia and dont ever show your face at our house again or my sons will beat you up like Christopher did to you.
Stuart Fulke Greville

Egham, UK

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Feb 25, 2013
 
Hi Caroline,
Now you can see how much of a delinquent this Anthony Greville is.
I was furious when I heard from dad that Anthony Star,well Anthony Greville had beaten him up and dad was 95 years old at the time.
Anthony got the message I was coming down to see him,taking me eight hours to drive down to cornwall and have a wee chat with him.Good job it was me not Chris who went down again as he got into trouble before.
The following week he decided Australia was a safer place for him,thats when he started to slander and blog Chris from Australia,cowardly little tosspot eh.
Now we have this crap to put up with until Anthony Greville goes to court,if he come back from australia.
The Evening Star

Southall, UK

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Apr 4, 2013
 
You're all as mad as each other!
Bussell

Egham, UK

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Apr 4, 2013
 
I agree,we are all as mad as each other must be something in the coffee.
Nishka

Egham, UK

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Apr 4, 2013
 
It seems that the blogs owned by that Anthony Greville the cornwall artist whose real name is Anthony Star have been banned by wordpress.com .
The reason was that he was harrassing and stalking the eldest son of the 94 year old man he beat up,who was one of the Greville family.
Carol Matthews

Cambridge, UK

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Apr 10, 2013
 
I think most people will know at once who is writing all these comments from IT 86.4.196.72 in Addlestone. Yes its Chris Fulke Greville real name Ascroft who has over forty convictions for fraud and violence. If you want to know about him try this:

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2006...

The Judge who sentenced him for his fraud on Help for Heroes using his fake car VUD 701 said he was "the lowest of the low" and Judge Collins who sentenced him to two years for fraud called him "a liar, a thief and and a thoroughly dishonest man".

This man is well known for using forums to attack those who out him but hes banned from most in Britain so thats why hes trying South Africa now. here is a newspaper report which will tell you what sort of character he is:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/secret-past-of...

If you do an image search on "Christopher Fulke Greville" you will see what the British think of him.
Stuart FG at Addlestone

Egham, UK

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Apr 10, 2013
 
Carol Mathews,which is a false name as you are Anthony Star aka Anthony Greville,I claim my 10 as YOU are the blogger CONCHASER that has been stalking this Chris Fulke Greville and has just been banned by Wordpress.com .
We will forward this to this sites admin and to the police.
Shame on you Anthony Greville for assaulting a 95 year old man to his death in 2007.
TruthSeeker

Liss, UK

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#16
May 8, 2013
 
Isnt it a Fulke-Greville mystery that ..........there are so many Fulke-Grevilles who write in the same forum, and,.........all from Addlestone........strange !!

the best entertainment is reading these articles, written by the same person, but different usernames, hilarious......I say multiple personalities.........
The Evening Star

Southall, UK

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#17
May 29, 2013
 
Can't believe that all this stuff is still going on. Its quite obvious that Anthony Greville and Chris Faulke Greville are related. Can't tell one from the other.
Joan Ascroft

Peterborough, UK

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Aug 31, 2013
 
I forgot to say that some soldiers tracked him down at a motor show and stripped Christopher Fulke Greville naked and pissed on his head in front of a whole crowd of people. After stealing from Help for Heroes he's lucky they didn't do worse!!!

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