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#48384 Feb 2, 2013
What Obamas Victory Means to the Religious Right
http://www.politicususa.com/obama-2012-means-...

"....Moderate Christians seem to be drifting away from organized religion or, if they are the type that feel threatened by the modern world, turn to fundamentalism.

I expect this polarizing trend to continue; it has been responsible, I believe, for the polarization of American politics. It is only since the Religious Right began to exert control over the Republican Party that the GOP has turned away from socially liberal policy positions, like access to birth control, and science and education..."

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#48385 Feb 2, 2013
The Decline of Evangelical America

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/opinion/sun...

IT hasnt been a good year for evangelicals. I should know. Im one of them.

In 2012 we witnessed a collapse in American evangelicalism. The old religious right largely failed to affect the Republican primaries, much less the presidential election. Last month, Americans voted in favor of same-sex marriage in four states, while Florida voters rejected an amendment to restrict abortion.

Much has been said about conservative Christians and their need to retool politically. But that is a smaller story, riding on the back of a larger reality: Evangelicalism as we knew it in the 20th century is disintegrating.

In 2011 the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life polled church leaders from around the world. Evangelical ministers from the United States reported a greater loss of influence than church leaders from any other country with some 82 percent indicating that their movement was losing ground.........

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#48386 Feb 2, 2013
(for a particularly sobering analysis of the evangelical ideology and how it does not encourage peace in the middle east....)

On the Road to Armageddon
How evangelicals became Israel's best friend.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/...

"....Millions of Americans believe that the Bible predicts the future and that we are living in the last days. Their beliefs are rooted in dispensationalism, a particular way of understanding the Bible's prophetic passages, especially those in Daniel and Ezekiel in the Old Testament and the Book of Revelation in the New Testament.

They make up about one-third of America's 40 or 50 million evangelical Christians and believe that the nation of Israel will play a central role in the unfolding of end-times events. In the last part of the 20th century, dispensationalist evangelicals become Israel's best friends-an alliance that has made a serious geopolitical difference..."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48387 Feb 2, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Calling me names accomplishes nothing other than showing how weak for mental skills are
<quoted text>
I posted one news report where they DID reject the aid.
Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48388 Feb 2, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and we also know you are willfully ignorant about most subjects regarding your religion
<quoted text>
I dont hate evangelicals as people, just their views.
Most Christian folk I know are not pushy and do not endorse pushy people.
The evangelicals as a NATIONAL political force here in America have greatly diminished over the years. They couldn't even coalesce as to find a candidate for president. Obama's victory is testamount to their weak position among the rest of the Christians at large. Maybe "hate" is a bit strong to characterize the attitude of the more moderate Christians towards their loony brethren, but lets face it, the moderates of the Christians voted with their feet and reelected Obama, contrary to the messages coming from the evangelical camp.
Jesus loves YOU dear, Frijoles. Why not serve Him today?

Oh, you can try answering my questions and explain the quotes.

Much love from Jesus and Jamaica. In other words much love from JJ.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48389 Feb 2, 2013
It was just a pop in and so take care. I am off to listen to some love music, oldies of course.

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#48390 Feb 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles.
So does Donald Duck and Big Bird

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#48391 Feb 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Jesus loves YOU dear, Frijoles. Why not serve Him today?
Oh, you can try answering my questions and explain the quotes.
Much love from Jesus and Jamaica. In other words much love from JJ.
Act like your Jesus

and btw I answered your questions. If you want more than that, kiss my ....

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#48392 Feb 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles.
and Homer Simpson loves YOU, Hughbe.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#48393 Feb 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles.
Love is a "Two way street" Hugh Be, never ONE WAY.

Think about it.
idgaf

Tewksbury, MA

#48394 Feb 2, 2013
So,

Not knowing much about Israel, I stumbled on a webpage that speaks to it.

http://jcpa.org/dje/articles2/meaning.htm

So, with some 20 million Jews spread throughout the world (before I get fact checked, I'm only guesstimating based on what the article above talks about). Give or take 10 million. What is the reason for needing the state of Israel to exist? Jews are a people right? What's special about the specific area that Israel was founded on? Jesus? What's the spread of people in Israel? Is it primarily Jews or are there others as well like the melting pot of peeps that we have here. So, what is the special interest that we have in Israel? What are the resources or strategic location that makes us spend piles of money and political capital on this tiny waring country? I continue to wonder what it is that these people are fighting over?

What's the interest. Beans said there are many reasons a while back, but was not specific as to the real reasons. Countries tend to war for natural resources. There is very little else to war over. Dead people don't seem to matter as south of us, the "War on Drugs" has claimed some 50,000ish lives in 4ish yrs. Of course, down there we control cheap labor, natural resources and politicians along with drugs (kinda count as a natural resource). So, what have we in Israel that matters so much? Why not just let Israel war like mad people with the A-Rabs?

These are all just wonderings and not downs on Israel. I just don't get it.
Clear

United States

#48395 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
I appreciate your desire that you want to sit in the feet of jesus and listen to his words and thoughts.
These are very noble thoughts, but unfortunately you will never get the chance.
Because the original words and thoughts of Jesus have been superimposed by Paul and his followers and you can hardly listen to "real jesus" in any existing Gospel.
You can get some idea of what jesus taught and spoke by going thru the Gospel of Barnabas, which preserves some of his true teachings.
And if you want to find the truth, then why not follow Jesus' advice and "Look" for the Comforter whom Jesus promised (as mentioned in Gospel of John Ch 14 thru Ch 16).
Do you know who was that comforter?
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Ghost /Spirit
These 3 agree, and are one

God the Father sent God the Son, who made a "way ",for sinfilled man to enter the Fathers House.

Those who accept this free gift, are comforted by Gods sweet Holy sprit-the comforter.

Gods Holy Spirit = The Comforter.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#48396 Feb 2, 2013
Clear wrote:
<quoted text>
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Ghost /Spirit
These 3 agree, and are one
God the Father sent God the Son, who made a "way ",for sinfilled man to enter the Fathers House.
Those who accept this free gift, are comforted by Gods sweet Holy sprit-the comforter.
Gods Holy Spirit = The Comforter.
What you wrote though sound like English is not English? It is Gibberish and makes no sense.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, that part is clear.

But when you say these three are one, goes out of English language.

How can these three become one?

Comforter is not the "Holy Ghost" but the "Spirit of Truth" and Jesus said "He will guide you into all truth".

I did not see "Holy Ghost" leading these hundreds of thousands of Churches and Denominations into "All Truth". It is leading them into diffeernt directions and all of them claim "Holy Ghost" inside them.

Which one of these sects and denominations are lead by the "Holy Ghost"?

CAn you tell us?

“Where is Cookeville?”

Since: Dec 07

Cookeville

#48397 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes brother Hugh Be. if there were no "lying lips" in the world, it would already had become a paradise.
One of the "greatest gifts" that people would get in paradise is that they will not hear any lies or vain talks!!
Like your nonsense about posting about your vain prophet and all his using his sword to "exectute people" nonsense? What is Paradise to you, Muq-Ass? You personally made a great deal of pointing out how your pitiful little prophet worked overtime and be-headed, molested, and made sure he was the only game in town, especially when it came to the Arabian Penninsula, and worked over-time to kill the Jews of the Baun'i-Khariza and the Bunnu-ka-Nuka. What is your idea of Paradise, as you envision it, Muq? You ot one, or you just some jack-ass screamin "Moo-Hammed!" as you drift alon in life?
Clear

United States

#48398 Feb 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What you wrote though sound like English is not English? It is Gibberish and makes no sense.
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, that part is clear.
But when you say these three are one, goes out of English language.
How can these three become one?
Comforter is not the "Holy Ghost" but the "Spirit of Truth" and Jesus said "He will guide you into all truth".
I did not see "Holy Ghost" leading these hundreds of thousands of Churches and Denominations into "All Truth". It is leading them into diffeernt directions and all of them claim "Holy Ghost" inside them.
Which one of these sects and denominations are lead by the "Holy Ghost"?
CAn you tell us?
You are very much correct when you say many different denominations.
This also means that not all of those are correct.
So which 1 are ones are correct?

The 1 or ones that put their faith and trust in God and not a man.

Many speak of the Grace of God, but turn around and use many different ways on how someone must earn this grace.

Gods Holy Word MUST be taken as a whole, and MUST be trusted as inspired by God.

Anyone can use the Word of God, and "fit" IT to their mold.

Satan attacked the Word of God from the start, and he has never stopped.
he also attacks our languages.

It is my opinion, that very few preach a true gospel of God.

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#48399 Feb 3, 2013
idgaf wrote:
So,
Not knowing much about Israel, I stumbled on a webpage that speaks to it.
http://jcpa.org/dje/articles2/meaning.htm
So, with some 20 million Jews spread throughout the world (before I get fact checked, I'm only guesstimating based on what the article above talks about). Give or take 10 million. What is the reason for needing the state of Israel to exist? Jews are a people right? What's special about the specific area that Israel was founded on? Jesus? What's the spread of people in Israel? Is it primarily Jews or are there others as well like the melting pot of peeps that we have here. So, what is the special interest that we have in Israel? What are the resources or strategic location that makes us spend piles of money and political capital on this tiny waring country? I continue to wonder what it is that these people are fighting over?
What's the interest. Beans said there are many reasons a while back, but was not specific as to the real reasons. Countries tend to war for natural resources. There is very little else to war over. Dead people don't seem to matter as south of us, the "War on Drugs" has claimed some 50,000ish lives in 4ish yrs. Of course, down there we control cheap labor, natural resources and politicians along with drugs (kinda count as a natural resource). So, what have we in Israel that matters so much? Why not just let Israel war like mad people with the A-Rabs?
These are all just wonderings and not downs on Israel. I just don't get it.
Where do they make people that are sooo incredibly stupid and short-sighted.
And daft enough to write it down, at that!
----
Israels main function is as neutral turf for 5 continents to talk, do business a.s.o. when they have to do business, because westernized is of more importance than all religion.
And it has no ban tourist or ban jews, no-welcome mats.

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#48400 Feb 3, 2013
idgaf wrote:
So,

What's the interest. Beans said there are many reasons a while back, but was not specific as to the real reasons.
Its the only democracy in the middle east, and therefore our only stable ally in the region.

That is the main reason why the US should support Israel. Period.

There are many internal reasons within the Jewish people for the existence of Israel (historically it is the homeland) but the reason above is the primary reason for America at large.

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#48401 Feb 3, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Where do they make people that are sooo incredibly stupid and short-sighted.
And daft enough to write it down, at that!
----
Israels main function is as neutral turf for 5 continents to talk, do business a.s.o. when they have to do business, because westernized is of more importance than all religion.
And it has no ban tourist or ban jews, no-welcome mats.
IN other words, it is a western country in a region that lacks civilization.

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#48402 Feb 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Love is a "Two way street" Hugh Be, never ONE WAY.
Think about it.
In Hughbes case, its not even a ONE WAY street. Hughbe's rants reveal an unmitigated torrent of rage. He cant even get the love thing right.

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#48403 Feb 3, 2013
idgaf wrote:
So,
What are the resources or strategic location that makes us spend piles of money and political capital on this tiny waring country?
Relatively speaking, we dont actually spend as much money as you might think. In recent years, a lot of the nonmilitary aid has been diminished (by the Israelis themselves who didnt want to be perpetually beholden). Much of the military aid is a result of treaty obligations stemming back from the Camp David Accords (Egypts as well).

We spend almost NO international political capital on this nation. If Israel ceased to exist we STILL would have crazy terrorists attacking our country. That has been clear. And if you look at the European nations that in recent years have been more tepid than us in support, there has been NO decrease of terrorism to them as a result, rather an increase.

THis from Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93U...

"...Israel is the largest total recipient of direct economic and military assistance from the United States since World War II, and it was the largest annual recipient from 1976 to 2003. Since the Iraq War began in 2003, Iraq has overtaken Israel as the largest annual recipient of U.S. aid.[4][5]

A major purchaser and user of U.S. military equipment, Israel is also involved in the joint development of military technology and regularly engages in joint military exercises involving United States and other forces.[2][3].."

So
1)Israel hasnt been the largest recipient since 2003
2)Its NOT unidirectional

So whats your gripe?


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