3 Americans, 3 others die in Philippine hotel fire

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[amc]

hey don

any updates?

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

I went to look at an Olongapo special...

what I saw the apartments/houses were next to each other... with one roof covering all apartments...

figured that was a recipe for disaster...

or was this place... one of those beach properties... where you dont own the land... but buy and make the apartment...and basically pay 2 or 3 hundred thousand pesos for that right?

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

^ make a 1 or 2 room apartment

[Don the American]

amc wrote:

hey don
any updates?

Nope, right down the road from me to. Basterds locked everyone in. It was a bar and the hotel rooms were upstairs for the girls to screw their customers. Drydens use to be a good restaurant but they turned it into a bar.

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

o shiet

Dryden Hotel, I stayed there... but had a balcony I could jump off of...

my guess is these guys died of smoke inhalation....

you would think the security guard would have run around to the rooms to call to people to get out...

but I remember my first year there.... I was renting a ground floor apartment... and the Jeepney parked next to my building caught fire....

no one thought to yell to people in the building to get out... let alone knock on the doors

[Don the American]

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:

o shiet
Dryden Hotel, I stayed there... but had a balcony I could jump off of...
my guess is these guys died of smoke inhalation....
you would think the security guard would have run around to the rooms to call to people to get out...
but I remember my first year there.... I was renting a ground floor apartment... and the Jeepney parked next to my building caught fire....
no one thought to yell to people in the building to get out... let alone knock on the doors

Yep it was the old Drydens. Security???? Off sleeping somewhere. when I have to catch the 4am bus to Manila I see them sleeping everywhere. Chances are the guard locked everything so he could run off and sleep. Happens all the time.

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Don the American wrote:

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Yep it was the old Drydens. Security???? Off sleeping somewhere. when I have to catch the 4am bus to Manila I see them sleeping everywhere. Chances are the guard locked everything so he could run off and sleep. Happens all the time.

I read the fire started at 1:00.... and unless things changed... their restaurant is open all night...

and for sure... still open at 1:00 at night

so their should have been at least 3 people on the security guard, waitress, and cook

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

they all just probably ran for it...

[Don the American]

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:

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I read the fire started at 1:00.... and unless things changed... their restaurant is open all night...
and for sure... still open at 1:00 at night
so their should have been at least 3 people on the security guard, waitress, and cook

No the restaurant is completely closed down. They turned it into a bar. The owner sold it and moved to Costa Rica a few years ago.

LOL!!! I see more than a few foreigners returning here go there to eat with a WTF look on their face.

Yes the restaurant use to be open all night. Good food too.

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

Don the American wrote:

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No the restaurant is completely closed down. They turned it into a bar. The owner sold it and moved to Costa Rica a few years ago.
LOL!!! I see more than a few foreigners returning here go there to eat with a WTF look on their face.
Yes the restaurant use to be open all night. Good food too.

O shiet really!!!...you just got a WTF from me right now

the food was so good...

Costa Rica was such a great country to go to.... they get paid even less than your average Filipino...

yet people there actually give your money back... ive seen it more than a few times...where people leave their wallets on a bus seats and get chased after...(chartered long distance buses where you, dont know if the person is coming back or not)

[ChaunceyGardiner]

You thought security would have run around to the rooms in an attempt to wake people? By and large, security personnel for places like that are a step above the wet market vendor.

I have witnessed security guards who have a rusty .38 in the holster but shot gun shells in their belt. If one were to be honest, most security guards there carry a cell phone in the holster and it may not even have a load to make a call!

Most security guards in the Philippines are like missed busses...useless.

[Don the American]

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:

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O shiet really!!!...you just got a WTF from me right now
the food was so good...
Costa Rica was such a great country to go to.... they get paid even less than your average Filipino...
yet people there actually give your money back... ive seen it more than a few times...where people leave their wallets on a bus seats and get chased after...(chartered long distance buses where you, dont know if the person is coming back or not)

In Manila I put my sandals on my seat just to show someone was sitting there so I could step off and get water only gone 60 seconds. Got back my seat was empty but my sandals were gone.

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

ChaunceyGardiner wrote:

You thought security would have run around to the rooms in an attempt to wake people? By and large, security personnel for places like that are a step above the wet market vendor.
I have witnessed security guards who have a rusty .38 in the holster but shot gun shells in their belt. If one were to be honest, most security guards there carry a cell phone in the holster and it may not even have a load to make a call!
Most security guards in the Philippines are like missed busses...useless.

I ment it more in a sarcastic way

[Don the American]

ChaunceyGardiner wrote:

You thought security would have run around to the rooms in an attempt to wake people? By and large, security personnel for places like that are a step above the wet market vendor.
I have witnessed security guards who have a rusty .38 in the holster but shot gun shells in their belt. If one were to be honest, most security guards there carry a cell phone in the holster and it may not even have a load to make a call!
Most security guards in the Philippines are like missed busses...useless.

Those guards are the biggest cowards alive. Even had an incident in Manila where some rich guy stopped by a cop got out and was smacking the cop around. Bystander got it on video and went on the news. Cop just let him smack him around like a big fat puzzy.

[Don the American]

ChaunceyGardiner wrote:

You thought security would have run around to the rooms in an attempt to wake people? By and large, security personnel for places like that are a step above the wet market vendor.
I have witnessed security guards who have a rusty .38 in the holster but shot gun shells in their belt. If one were to be honest, most security guards there carry a cell phone in the holster and it may not even have a load to make a call!
Most security guards in the Philippines are like missed busses...useless.

Think there would be a hero story in all this. No effort made from all the security guards in the area to save them. No what? News didn't say a word about that.

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Don the American wrote:

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In Manila I put my sandals on my seat just to show someone was sitting there so I could step off and get water only gone 60 seconds. Got back my seat was empty but my sandals were gone.

lol thats funny...

I remember leaving a few ratty old (Filipino special) slippers outside the door and having them stolen...

this is during the day in a gated apartment complex where you have to go through a second gate to get into the apartment complex... so it wasnt a garbage picker... it was Filipinas/Filipinos visiting

the guest

[ChaunceyGardiner]

I can do you a couple better.

Do you have any idea how many times an AFP soldier or Marine is paraded as a hero for actions taken in the line of duty? While most of those guys are brave and seek action, they are not earning their accolades in the ways typically presented in the media. I can't tell you how many times some bad guy would die of lead poisoning down south and the shooter can't claim responsibility.

Almost a decade ago, a bank robbery happened near QC. The bad guys attempted to get away just as some more prepared souls were attempting to get lunch aat a nearby restaurant. The firefight was brief. In the end, the bad guys lost and no innocents were caught by errant fire. All bad guys died center mass. When was the last time you saw guards (the guys given credit) conserve fire and be so accurate.

Lunch was good.

[amc]

US JUMPS INTO MALI CONFLICT.........
ohhhboy :(

i always leave my slippers out at the trike stop for them. they need them.

[RESISTANCE IS FUTILE]

why dosent the West just let things transpire...

China has given millions to a government thats probably was going to be toppled... if they were... then China was probably going to give millions to the new government... and stay in contact with the toppled government...

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Tuesday 15 January 2013

Don't forget the critical role of China in Mali

The Chinese government has given millions to the North African country, and their influence is massive

Mali and the other former French colonies which surround it have had extensive dealings with China. The country, one of the poorest in the world, has received substantial Chinese money for development. In 2011 China made good on a package of hundreds of millions, partially as a “gift” to improve the “living standards of Malian people”.

Some argue that China will sit back and let the French do its work for it by handling the crisis and restoring some kind of stability, with China perhaps moving back in later. Contrary to that view, it is worth considering that the intervention may be at least partially informed by a need to counter the Chinese, certainly on the part of the US and also on the part of major European countries.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/d...

^ west thinks the best way to counter China's money... is send soldiers...

[Martin Nuke]

China do want want countries with legit governments they want countries with warlords instead so China will give money and military hardware to the African warlords so the warlords could wipeout their own population so China could Annex africa afterwards.

The new genocidal engineering feat of China is fake drugs they give it to Africa if effect the Africans get more sick and eventually die.