Australian voters would deliver Obama landslide victory

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: Sydney Morning Herald 142

We still love him ... Barack Obama was embraced by Chelsea Gallagher on his last visit to Australia in 2011.

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Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#63 Aug 29, 2012
Mr Humbert wrote:
Romney wants to kill medicare for senors healthcare give them vouchers and cut taxes for millionaires. Women who are RAPED no abortion for you. Global warning. Huh?

Obama is a disappointment BUT GOD ALMIGHTY the alternative is incomprehensible to me.

Australia, you are most antiamerican western nation BUT you are right on this election. Really scary for rational thinking people.

And I'd vote Julia Gillard if I were Australian.
The NWO are trying to rig the election so that Obama can have another term. It is patently obvious to any intelligent person that both Obama & Romney faithfully serve the Zionist NWO Corporatocracy & "NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"

The Republicans killed off America's last chance of having a non-Zionist President when they officially endorsed corrupt Neo Con "Mitt Romney" for the presidency over the true patriot & all-round great man "Ron Paul".

America's election is "guaranteed to be rigged" with Ron Paul now officially 'bumped out' of the running. I can sense an anti-Zionist, anti-NWO revolution brewing in the US of A. The people should not have to stand for the rampant corruption anymore.
Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#64 Aug 29, 2012
voices of reason wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is the HEAD of the Executive branch

Congress CANNOT work if the exec branch doesnt give them an outline of what to do ...

You are messed. Are you a socialist ? why not move to China if you believe in the cause so much

Obama has failed in every way possible, he wont even discuss the issues anymore. All he talks about are sports and how Bush did it

What kinda man blames the guy before him ? a bitch thats what

Youre messed. He looks like a monkey in a suit by the way
You are completely correct. I cosign 100% of what you have said in this statement. It is the absolute truth. Obama has been an unmitigated disaster for the American people & the free world. Obama only serves Jew Bankers & so does the Neo Con Romney. They US elections are now "officially" being rigged by the NWO.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#66 Aug 29, 2012
Aussie Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
The NWO are trying to rig the election so that Obama can have another term. It is patently obvious to any intelligent person that both Obama & Romney faithfully serve the Zionist NWO Corporatocracy & "NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"
The Republicans killed off America's last chance of having a non-Zionist President when they officially endorsed corrupt Neo Con "Mitt Romney" for the presidency over the true patriot & all-round great man "Ron Paul".
America's election is "guaranteed to be rigged" with Ron Paul now officially 'bumped out' of the running. I can sense an anti-Zionist, anti-NWO revolution brewing in the US of A. The people should not have to stand for the rampant corruption anymore.
Not so fast, Aussie Bob, his son is an upstart with a future. He gave a good speech at the republican convention tonight.
VN Vet

Hopewell, VA

#67 Aug 29, 2012
I can't believe the people of Australia could be so stupid and brainwashed as to be as Marxist as you say. When I was there in the 60s, they sure as hell were self secure and independent. What happened?

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#68 Aug 29, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I must say I like your system and the way that your President makes exec decissions and has the power to vito but nothing is perfect, as it was shown to fail you in the Iraqi situation where a war was agreed to because of a lie perpetrated by your security agency.
Maybe it was because of the extreme emotional stress, anger or disbelief of 911 that nearly every journalist and American including the president and congress helped fuel that lie to make it believable ...
There is a urgent need to prevent that happening again, something in place that can overide fear, anger and emotion dictating policy (under such extreme circumstances) that eventually lead to applying that pressure to the UN and your allies to support and assist you in an act of war, there should have been a fail safe for cooler heads to prevail. if that is at all possible.
Congress has the power to override that veto with a two thirds vote. There's usually a balance somewhere.

I'm not ready to call Bush a liar just yet without more info. As much as I didn't like him, he did have to rely heavily on foreign intelligence. There is an intelligence committee in congress with access to information, but I have to admit, the executive branch has the ability to withhold information from them.

A lot of democrats approved the war, even Clinton said he believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I think the democrats got caught looking like fools after the first gulf war and jumped on the band wagon for the second one.

The fail safe is the constitution. I don't know how a country can go to war without a declaration of war as per the constitution. The president can only act on an immediate emergency or threat without congress. I think belonging to the UN changed things somehow, even though he did go to congress for approval.

The states once had the ability to reign in the federal government. They still can, but don't.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#69 Aug 29, 2012
VN Vet wrote:
I can't believe the people of Australia could be so stupid and brainwashed as to be as Marxist as you say. When I was there in the 60s, they sure as hell were self secure and independent. What happened?
Yea, those Aussies were a great bunch of guys.

You might ask what happened to us. I can't even believe this is actually a close election. I'm beginning to miss the cold war years.:-)

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#72 Aug 30, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Congress has the power to override that veto with a two thirds vote. There's usually a balance somewhere.
I'm not ready to call Bush a liar just yet without more info. As much as I didn't like him, he did have to rely heavily on foreign intelligence. There is an intelligence committee in congress with access to information, but I have to admit, the executive branch has the ability to withhold information from them.
A lot of democrats approved the war, even Clinton said he believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I think the democrats got caught looking like fools after the first gulf war and jumped on the band wagon for the second one.
The fail safe is the constitution. I don't know how a country can go to war without a declaration of war as per the constitution. The president can only act on an immediate emergency or threat without congress. I think belonging to the UN changed things somehow, even though he did go to congress for approval.
The states once had the ability to reign in the federal government. They still can, but don't.
Well I apreciate your faith in George but the evidence is in....I was watching a show on the war and they had a retired American top brass guy saying there was not evidence and Bush was told as much....and wasn't it also a Bush who was involved in the Gulf war...still don't know why the need to protect Iraq in that one either...can't see why he thought it should involve you either.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#73 Aug 30, 2012
chefboy812 wrote:
<quoted text>
And what proof do you have Omonkey has a brain?
# He hasn't passed a budget yet - by law is required to so he's just another black breaking the law.
# 4,000,000 more on unemployment
# 2,000,000 more reliant on food stamps to live
# Uses $2,600,000,000,000 social security money to buy US debt rather than use it to help the needy
# added $10,000,000,000,000 to US debt in less than 4 years
# Spent $1,000,000,000,000 on shovel ready jobs when unemployment
# passed 7% but later admitted there were no shovel ready jobs & most of the trillion dollars was wasted
# vetoed the Keystone pipeline that could have created 70,000 jobs & passed environmental checks
#$40,000,000,000 to create 1 million jobs in the new green economy - billions lost when businesses went bust & less than 5,000 jobs remain.
# Pays no tax
# 1st dog has a dog trainer costing over $100k/yr
Do you think an absolute fucking drunk druggo retard could do worse than your Mr Brains? Well No ... george dubya proved that.
You misses out the uni students that don't have to pay interest on their student loans and all those people covered under Obamacare that wouldn't be if it hadn't been implemented....I watched that nutter Ryan on the tv today saying they were going to wind back Obamacare and put money into medicaid....that would be a new one states and feds putting money into healthcare and social security instead of taking it out for....well just about anything but care and leaving nothing but I-O-Us.....He looks so handsome when he smiles....go back to the drawing board.
Anton

Perth, Australia

#75 Aug 30, 2012
spud the gringo wrote:
If Aussies really do support Obama at a 14-1 ratio, I think it's time to start rationing the Fosters. But I really can't believe such a figure is true unless the participants in that poll were 15 hard core socialists.
Your right mate. I doubt the figures are accurate. Everyone I have talked to think Obama has messed up big time and feel a change is needed.

I do hope America comes out of the current financial mess and reinforces its place as leader of the free world.
Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#76 Aug 30, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>You misses out the uni students that don't have to pay interest on their student loans and all those people covered under Obamacare that wouldn't be if it hadn't been implemented....I watched that nutter Ryan on the tv today saying they were going to wind back Obamacare and put money into medicaid....that would be a new one states and feds putting money into healthcare and social security instead of taking it out for....well just about anything but care and leaving nothing but I-O-Us.....He looks so handsome when he smiles....go back to the drawing board.
Obama & the Democrats are attempting to plunge America even deeper into this financial crisis. Why isn't anybody doing anything to pull America out of debt & back into surplus like Germany is? Obamacare is borderline-fraudulent, American's should "be wary" of him peddling "false hope" by now.
spud the gringo

Bronx, NY

#77 Aug 30, 2012
Anton wrote:
<quoted text>
Your right mate. I doubt the figures are accurate. Everyone I have talked to think Obama has messed up big time and feel a change is needed.
I do hope America comes out of the current financial mess and reinforces its place as leader of the free world.
That's what I thought. You and Aussie Bob are right. The hard part about dumping Obama will be to change the way his supporters think. Obama and the Democratic party have encouraged people to become dependant on the government. They prey on the lazy and the stupid by supplying them with lifes neccessities instead of encouraging employment. I really doubt that Romney will be much better but I think it's a neccessary change. I liked Ron Paul also and the medias total dismissal of him spoke volumes. Have a good day down under.
Anton

Perth, Australia

#78 Aug 30, 2012
spud the gringo wrote:
<quoted text>That's what I thought. You and Aussie Bob are right. The hard part about dumping Obama will be to change the way his supporters think. Obama and the Democratic party have encouraged people to become dependant on the government. They prey on the lazy and the stupid by supplying them with lifes neccessities instead of encouraging employment. I really doubt that Romney will be much better but I think it's a neccessary change. I liked Ron Paul also and the medias total dismissal of him spoke volumes. Have a good day down under.
Thanks. We face a similar dilemma. Next Election here in Australia its a choice between dumb and dumber ( Labor or the Liberals)........so what do ya do.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#79 Aug 30, 2012
Aussie Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama & the Democrats are attempting to plunge America even deeper into this financial crisis. Why isn't anybody doing anything to pull America out of debt & back into surplus like Germany is? Obamacare is borderline-fraudulent, American's should "be wary" of him peddling "false hope" by now.
Well I think that is a tad harsh seeing he was the only one in the firing line, bailing out car companies etc to make sure more jobs didn't go down the shit tube and securing the future of those companies by carrying them through the tough times...I don't believe anyone could have done better under the pressure he found himself when the sub prime crises was dumped in his lap, so for christs sake give the guy some credit and all those people that had their jobs saved should be kissing his arse...the others that lost jobs homes etc that was not Obama's fault, it was the fault or greedy banks and companies....I realise the only people you are going to get on this thread are Obama knockers because most Aussies don't give a shit....but I am saying that on his worst day he could never be as bad as Bush or Romney so he gets my vote....even though I can't vote in the election....
spud the gringo

Bronx, NY

#80 Aug 30, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I think that is a tad harsh seeing he was the only one in the firing line, bailing out car companies etc to make sure more jobs didn't go down the shit tube and securing the future of those companies by carrying them through the tough times...I don't believe anyone could have done better under the pressure he found himself when the sub prime crises was dumped in his lap, so for christs sake give the guy some credit and all those people that had their jobs saved should be kissing his arse...the others that lost jobs homes etc that was not Obama's fault, it was the fault or greedy banks and companies....I realise the only people you are going to get on this thread are Obama knockers because most Aussies don't give a shit....but I am saying that on his worst day he could never be as bad as Bush or Romney so he gets my vote....even though I can't vote in the election....
Just imagine how good you could make yourself look if you could barrow 2 trillion dollars a year and spend it on all kinds of freebies that people love. The bigger question is how long can you do that before your currency becomes worthless, your pension obligations become unpayable and people start rioting in the streets for what they have been promised? What is happening in Greece can happen in the US.
spud the gringo

Bronx, NY

#81 Aug 30, 2012
Anton wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks. We face a similar dilemma. Next Election here in Australia its a choice between dumb and dumber ( Labor or the Liberals)........so what do ya do.
The only thing we can do is to keep electing new representatives. The longer these incumbants stay in office, the more bad habits they develope. We have to develope a healthy mistrust of the media. They all have an agenda and it's not often what is good for the country or its people. We have to become better at doing our own thinking instead of letting the media form our opinions for us.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#82 Aug 30, 2012
IF that is true, evidently Aussies want high unemployment, more government to decide for them, rising cost of living, closed door politics and an increasing division of classes and races. We can see exactly what Obama has done, as opposed to what he said he would do. His first two years in office he had absolute control of congress and he could have passed any legislation he wanted. Yet, here we are today, $6TRILLION more in debt with all the original problems getting worse. If Romney doesn't do what he promises, we'll fire him too.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#83 Aug 30, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I apreciate your faith in George but the evidence is in....I was watching a show on the war and they had a retired American top brass guy saying there was not evidence and Bush was told as much....and wasn't it also a Bush who was involved in the Gulf war...still don't know why the need to protect Iraq in that one either...can't see why he thought it should involve you either.
I'm not standing up for Bush by any means. I'm just not ready to call him a liar just yet. There may have been liars below him as did LBJ when he was informed about the Gulf of Tonkin attacks. It appears the second attack was fabricated.

There was a lot of 911 hysteria at the time also. One can only speculate what went on.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#84 Aug 30, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
You misses out the uni students that don't have to pay interest on their student loans and all those people covered under Obamacare that wouldn't be if it hadn't been implemented....I watched that nutter Ryan on the tv today saying they were going to wind back Obamacare and put money into medicaid....that would be a new one states and feds putting money into healthcare and social security instead of taking it out for....well just about anything but care and leaving nothing but I-O-Us.....He looks so handsome when he smiles....go back to the drawing board.
The students still pay interest on their loans. The federal government was always involved with the student loan system providing subsidies. The federal government effectively nationalized the student loan system to help pay for Obamacare. The student loan system is now in a healthcare system.

There were always Pell grants toward college tuition for the poor. Obama didn't build that.

Ryan was talking about putting the money Obama robbed from Medicare back into medicare. I thought I mentioned they before. Obama robbed over 700 billion from Medicare, which is almost broke now, to pay for Obamacare.
Cat74

Mchenry, IL

#85 Aug 30, 2012
They wouldn't vote for him after he was their leader for awhile.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#86 Aug 30, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I think that is a tad harsh seeing he was the only one in the firing line, bailing out car companies etc to make sure more jobs didn't go down the shit tube and securing the future of those companies by carrying them through the tough times...I don't believe anyone could have done better under the pressure he found himself when the sub prime crises was dumped in his lap, so for christs sake give the guy some credit and all those people that had their jobs saved should be kissing his arse...the others that lost jobs homes etc that was not Obama's fault, it was the fault or greedy banks and companies....I realise the only people you are going to get on this thread are Obama knockers because most Aussies don't give a shit....but I am saying that on his worst day he could never be as bad as Bush or Romney so he gets my vote....even though I can't vote in the election....
Sometimes you confuse me, Ahomana. You trash Julia Gillard, but her policies are in line with Obama. They are two peas in a pod. All of the carbon tax and other issues you're against is supported by Obama.

The money for car companies went right into union pension funds. The union turns around and donates to Obama's campaign. GM ended up filing bankruptcy in the end anyway after all of that money spent which is what Romney was calling for at the time. Chrysler secured a private loan after partnering with Fiat and paid the government back. Ford never took a government bailout.

No question a lot of problems were dumped in his lap. The point is he didn't do anything about it but cry baby about Bush. We don't like cry babies. The unemployment is higher now than when he took office. He is in way over his head.

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