'The War Is Not Over'

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When you get thru banning guns you moron, ban knives...
More than a dozen people have been wounded in a mass stabbing at Lone Star College in Cypress, Texas, today. Police have one suspect in custody and don't believe any others are at large, the Houston Chronicle reports. Fifteen people were injured in the attack, including four in critical condition who were airlifted to hospitals. Most of the injuries were stabs or slashes to the face and neck area.
One student identified as James tells ABC 13 that he helped police capture the attacker, who he describes as a man wearing all black armed with an exacto-style knife. James says he tackled the suspect after seeing him leaving a building at a run. "I give up, I give up," the man said as he fell. The stabbings took place on a different Lone Star campus than the one where a shooting took place earlier this year.
Guns don’t kill people,knives kill people...you have the right to remain stupid...
ABs the accidental idiot?... LOL!!
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We will get to your other responses later, could not resist this one. My interest in Ahmadiya is not your concern but of all MUSLIM SECTS, this one makes the most sense...in a moving closer to allah sense...that being said, here is a story you no hear on I hate zionists tv...
An unapologetic Florida-born killer has been sentenced to two life sentences for murdering two Palestinians and attempting to kill others, reports Sky News. Jack Tytell, 40, known as the "Jewish Terrorist" in the Israeli press, shot to death a taxi driver and later a shepherd at point-blank range after moving to Israel from the US in 1997. Years later, he sent pipe bombs to a teenager and a professor at Hebrew University, and attacked a police station during a gay pride parade, reports the Jerusalem Post.
Tytell claimed to be guided by angels, and his lawyers tried to get him a more lenient term with an insanity defense. The court rejected the strategy, however. Among the reasons: Tytell said he considered killing a Palestinian child but decided against it because it was "not the American way," reports the International Business Times. A judged deemed that evidence that Tytell knew right from wrong.
Here is the million dollar question, my dear comrade MUQ...wy in the world would there be a muslim GAY PRIDE parade in Palestine?
This is mere eyewash... a show piece to show the world "how law abiding the Jewish Govt in Isreal is".

While what they do every day to demolish homes of Palestine, to build new colonies on Arab lands, to kill and main people goes unnoticed.

You cannot judge them by one or two cases like this.
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News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become
automatons." - Anaïs Nin, The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 4: 1944-1947
"Responsibility to yourself means refusing to let others do your thinking, talking,
and naming for you; it means learning to respect and use your own brains and instincts; hence, grappling with hard work." - Adrienne Rich

"The number of those who undergo the fatigue of judging for themselves is very
small indeed." - Richard Brinsley Sheridan, The Critic "There are few things more dangerous than inbred religious certainty." - Bart D. Ehrman, God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question-Why We Suffer

"The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground
exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holders lack of rational conviction.
Opinions in politics and religion are almost always held passionately." - Bertrand
Russell

"Read not to contradict and confute; nor to believe and take for granted; nor to
find talk and discourse; but to weigh and consider." - Francis Bacon, English essayist
- "Of Studies," 1625

February 13, 2013
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When you get thru banning guns you moron, ban knives...
More than a dozen people have been wounded in a mass stabbing at Lone Star College in Cypress, Texas, today. Police have one suspect in custody and don't believe any others are at large, the Houston Chronicle reports. Fifteen people were injured in the attack, including four in critical condition who were airlifted to hospitals. Most of the injuries were stabs or slashes to the face and neck area.
One student identified as James tells ABC 13 that he helped police capture the attacker, who he describes as a man wearing all black armed with an exacto-style knife. James says he tackled the suspect after seeing him leaving a building at a run. "I give up, I give up," the man said as he fell. The stabbings took place on a different Lone Star campus than the one where a shooting took place earlier this year.
Guns don’t kill people,knives kill people...you have the right to remain stupid...
No one died ye moron, apparently the NRA hired the guy to take the heat off the gun issue ...
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Apr 10, 2013
 
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This is mere eyewash... a show piece to show the world "how law abiding the Jewish Govt in Isreal is".
While what they do every day to demolish homes of Palestine, to build new colonies on Arab lands, to kill and main people goes unnoticed.
You cannot judge them by one or two cases like this.
You may be right but shouldn't you at least asknowledge the good deed of justice done in this eyewash? What would Allah do?

But you did gloss over the part I was really concerned about...a GAY PRIDE parade in Palestine...according to a great shia muslim mullah of Iran there is NO SUCH THING as a gay muslim...it is forbidden...if that is the case why would palestinians of muslim influence be having a GAY PRIDE parade?
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Sounds like your in a desperate rot why not go to school and learn something?
You first...please learn me why our lefty leanie president of peace and unity would support this? I don't think even GWB the great was this radical right...

Obama proposes shifting funds from nuclear nonproliferation to nuclear weapons

The OBUMBLE administration will propose a deep cut in funding for nuclear nonproliferation programs at the Energy Department largely so it can boost the department’s spending to modernize its stockpile of NUKULAR WEAPONS, according to government officials familiar with the proposed 2014 federal budget to be unveiled Wednesday, April 10.
The half-billion-dollar shift in spending priorities reflects an administration decision that nuclear explosives work the Energy Department performs for the military should be both accelerated and expanded. But Democrats on Capitol Hill and independent arms control groups predicted the decision will provoke controversy and a substantial budget fight this year.
Under the 2014 proposal, the Energy Department’s nuclear weapons activities funding – which includes modernization efforts for bomber-based and missile-based warheads -- would be increased roughly 7 percent, or around $500 million, above the current level of $7.227 billion for these activities.
The department’s nonproliferation programs, aimed at diminishing the security threat posed by fissile materials in other countries that can be used for nuclear weapons, would be cut by roughly 20 percent, or $460 million, below the current level of $2.45 billion, the officials said.
The new weapons-related spending would expand efforts to upgrade the W76, W88, W78, and B-61 warheads, and help fund construction of a new facility in Tennessee for processing uranium, a nuclear explosive used in these and other warheads. These programs have experienced billions of dollars in cost overruns in recent years, forcing the administration to look elsewhere in the DOE budget to find the money it needs to keep them alive.

Thats a fine message to send the world...SLASH SPENDING ON NUKULAR NON-PROLIFERATION....for....th e ........purpose ...of..........BOOST.....NUKUL AR..........W.....E.....A....P ....O....N.....s!!! Now that certainly is change I can get behind, how aboooot u francis?
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You may be right but shouldn't you at least asknowledge the good deed of justice done in this eyewash? What would Allah do?
But you did gloss over the part I was really concerned about...a GAY PRIDE parade in Palestine...according to a great shia muslim mullah of Iran there is NO SUCH THING as a gay muslim...it is forbidden...if that is the case why would palestinians of muslim influence be having a GAY PRIDE parade?
Who told you Muslims are angels? Or Islam is what any Muslim says or does?

Islam is what is told by Quran and sayings and actions of our Prophet.

A Muslim is one who follows what is told by Quran and Prophet, not the other way round.\

So instead of wasting your time and energy, in telling what some or more Muslims are doing, you should try to learn what Quran says and what are teachings of our prophet.

In this way, you will learn about Islam and its teachings and shall tell that what this Muslim did or that Muslim said was against Islam.

That is yours and people like you's basic problem.

You judge Islam by the actions of people having Muslim sounding names, while it should be otherwise.

If some Muslim drinks Alcohol or commits adultery or deals in usury, these actions would not become Islamic, but this man is doing Non Islamic acts.

If you work on these lines, you would find out many things which present day Muslims do, which are exactly opposite to what Islam teaches.

You should criticize these Muslims and not Islam and I shall be with you.

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When you get thru banning guns you moron, ban knives...
More than a dozen people have been wounded in a mass stabbing at Lone Star College in Cypress, Texas, today. Police have one suspect in custody and don't believe any others are at large, the Houston Chronicle reports. Fifteen people were injured in the attack, including four in critical condition who were airlifted to hospitals. Most of the injuries were stabs or slashes to the face and neck area.
One student identified as James tells ABC 13 that he helped police capture the attacker, who he describes as a man wearing all black armed with an exacto-style knife. James says he tackled the suspect after seeing him leaving a building at a run. "I give up, I give up," the man said as he fell. The stabbings took place on a different Lone Star campus than the one where a shooting took place earlier this year.
Guns don’t kill people,knives kill people...you have the right to remain stupid...
Should cars be banned too? jeeze

As bars were closing around 2 a.m. on December 10, a man in his early to mid-twenties drove his vehicle into a crowd of people leaving a bar in Fremont, striking six people.

Officers quickly responded and took the suspect into custody.

A 31 year-old pedestrian was treated at the scene by Seattle Fire Department (SFD) and transported to Harborview Medical Center (HMC) for treatment. He was listed in stable condition.

A 37 year-old pedestrian was treated at the scene by SFD and transported to HMC for treatment. He was listed in stable condition.

A 21 year-old pedestrian was treated at the scene by SFD Medics and transported to HMC for treatment. He was listed in critical condition with life threatening injuries.

A 22 year-old pedestrian was treated at the scene by SFD Medics and transported to HMC for treatment. She was listed in serious condition.

A 21 year-old pedestrian was treated at the scene by SFD and transported to HMC for treatment. He was listed in stable condition.

A 28 year-old male pedestrian declined aid.
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The Guns, The Gays, Abortion, are all wedge issues to divide and conquer.

Our politicians laugh all the way too the bank.

Follow the money.

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Obama Goes All Out For Dirty Banker Deal
August 24, 2011 / http://tinyurl.com/3bm3mrb
On the one side is Eric Schneiderman, the New York Attorney General, who is conducting his own investigation into the era of securitizations – the practice of chopping up assets like mortgages and converting them into saleable securities – that led up to the financial crisis of 2007-2008.
On the other side is the Obama administration, the banks, and all the other state attorneys general.
This second camp has cooked up a deal that would allow the banks to walk away with just a seriously discounted fine from a generation of fraud that led to millions of people losing their homes.
The idea behind this federally-guided “settlement” is to concentrate and centralize all the legal exposure accrued by this generation of grotesque banker corruption in one place, put one single price tag on it that everyone can live with, and then stuff the details into a titanium canister before shooting it into deep space.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/ta...
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Stupid, incessant NRA blather never stops, Japan’s gun laws are very strict, you want a gun you take a yearly test to renew your license. The result is a small number of guns and almost no gun violence. Japan, a nation of 130 million, reports seven gun related murders last year. Treating gun ownership as a privilege rather than a “gawd given right” makes for a different mindset and leads to completely different results.
At least GOPers are consistent in their ignorance, when you have chosen to believe the horse manure produced by a certain NEWS agency which consistently makes false claims, promotes divisive behavior, bigotry and hatred, you will remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness.
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The United States has more guns than many other countries.

More guns = more gun violence.
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The United States has more guns than many other countries.
More guns = more gun violence.
This is how freaking insane Americans are about guns – they are on a buying binge.
Police departments are having a difficult time getting the necessary ammunition for officer’s handguns, shotguns and especially rifles. With the delay in ammunition, some departments are limiting the number of rounds they carry in their handgun because of the shortage of ammunition. We get to the point where it is difficult to have enough ammo to train and also equip the officers. Several police departments are getting desperate. Right now, a lot of smaller police departments have been forced to paying retail prices for ammunition, because they cannot get it through their suppliers.
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No one died ye moron, apparently the NRA hired the guy to take the heat off the gun issue ...
So its NOT the violence you oppose, its the death...that makes sense...what a maroone...lol

Here's another one for you Francis...knives don't kill people, guns don't kill people....SAWS DO! Ban saws at home depot NOW!!!

A man deliberately cut himself with saws in the aisles of a Home Depot store in suburban Los Angeles yesterday, creating a gruesome scene in front of several customers that left him severely injured, police said. The man was in the store's tool section and went unnoticed until he began grabbing several small saws, including one meant to cut sheet rock, and started using them on his arms.

"He cut both arms with hand saws down to the bone," said a police spokesman. Officers received several 911 calls and arrived to find the man lying unconscious in the aisle in a pool of blood.
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Janes com wrote:
The United States has more guns than many other countries.
More guns = more gun violence.
Wonder what impact that has on the LACK of other killing methods currently emplored in other countries that ARE NOT used here, you know, like car bombs, motorcycle bombs, IEDs, suicide vests with ball bearings...etc...or are you a dreamer to that thinks man will simply love one another and get along if we get rid of guns?
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A guide to NRA talking-points or when, seemingly, intelligent people turn troglodyte.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Maybe, but people with guns kill many, many more people than they would if they didn't have guns, and guns designed to kill as many people as possible. We don't know if the murderer in Newtown was suffering from a suicidal depression, but many mass shooters in the past were. And guess what? People suffer from suicidal depression everywhere in the world. People get angry and upset everywhere in the world. But there aren't mass shootings every few weeks in England or Costa Rica or Japan, and the reason is that people in those places who have these impulses don't have an easy way to access lethal weapons and unlimited ammunition. But if you want to kill large numbers of people and you happen to be an American, you'll find it easy to do.

Criminals will always find a way to get guns no matter what measures we take, so what's the point?
The question isn't whether we could snap our fingers and make every gun disappear. It's whether we can make it harder for criminals to get guns, and harder for an unbalanced person with murderous intent to kill so many people. The goal is to reduce violence as much as possible. There's no other problem for which we'd say if we can't solve it completely and forever we shouldn't even try.

The Constitution says I have a right to own guns.
Yes it does, but for some infantile reason gun advocates think that the right to bear arms is the only constitutional right that is virtually written in stone and without limit. You have the right to practice your religion, but not if your religion involves human sacrifice. You have the right to free speech, but you can still be prosecuted for incitement or conspiracy, and you can be sued for libel. Every right is subject to limitation when it begins to threaten others, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that even though there is an individual right to gun ownership, the government can put reasonable restrictions on that right.

As we’ve all seen, if a shooter turns out to have a Muslim name, the NRA will be more than happy to give up all kinds of rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Have the government read my email? Have my cell phone company turn over my call records? Check which books I'm taking out of the library? Make me take my shoes off before getting on a plane, just because some idiot tried to blow up his sneakers? Sure, do what you've got to do. But don't make it harder to buy thousands of rounds of ammunition, because if we couldn't do that we'd no longer be free – what a crock!

Widespread gun ownership is a guarantee against tyranny.
If that had anything to do with contemporary life, then mature democracies would be constantly overthrown by despots. But they aren't. We shouldn't write laws based on the fantasies of conspiracy theorists.

Guns are a part of American culture.
Indeed they are, but so are a lot of things, and that tells us nothing about whether they're good or bad and how we want to treat them going forward. Slavery was a part of American culture for a couple of hundred years, but eventually we decided it had to go.

Having movie theaters and schools full of kids periodically shot up seems to be a price the NRA is willing to pay if it means I get to play with guns.
OK, that's not an argument gun advocates are willing to make. But it's the truth that lies beneath all their other arguments. All that we suffer because of the proliferation of guns—these horrifying tragedies, the 30,000 Americans who are killed every year with guns—for gun advocates, it's unfortunate, but it's a price they're willing to pay. If only they'd have the guts to say it
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Bang bang
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Wonder what impact that has on the LACK of other killing methods currently emplored in other countries that ARE NOT used here, you know, like car bombs, motorcycle bombs, IEDs, suicide vests with ball bearings...etc...or are you a dreamer to that thinks man will simply love one another and get along if we get rid of guns?
Common sense tells me a federal mandatory back ground check would suffice.
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When otherwise intelligent people seem to turn troglodyte.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/02/17...

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People were killing people with sticks and stones before guns were around.

But anyway NK is really putting on a show today.

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