No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ... Full Story

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#38903 Mar 10, 2013
Snarling Chingis Khan wrote:
<quoted text>
Genes get mutated...chromosomes get deleted or added extra..foetus suffer growth retardation...something goes wrong intrapartum..something goes wrong after birth..some serious disturbances occur in adolescence...
Homosexuality is the same...DSO..disturbed sexual orientation..most likely to be a genetic disorder ...
difficult issue really to solve....i was jus' kidding ..wanted to play the snooty Canuck who looks down from the North Pole!:):):)
I don't begrudge the Homosexual demanding equality under the law ...I believe homosexuality to be Mans natural need of camaraderie ...but, distorted to become sexual ...

And, I do believe sexual immorality (both straight and not)..to be damaging to ones dignity and well being ...
Panjabian Di Shaan Vakhri

Donvale, Australia

#38906 Mar 10, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>infact i HAVE slaughtered muslim animals by the dozen with an HMG

))

when no one claimed their rotting corpses , we gave them mass cremations

))

heh heh heh

and my business is none of your business..You keep slaving away for 1000 Saudi Riyals per month maximum and continue living in a shared saudi accommodation with 6 other muslim men.you are not more than worth that
Ki haal chaal aa mera jatt praa?
harminder

Mumbai, India

#38907 Mar 10, 2013
Panjabian Di Shaan Vakhri wrote:
<quoted text>
Ki haal chaal aa mera jatt praa?
vadeeya

))

(note: i am NOT your brother as you are muslim…clear?)
harminder

Mumbai, India

#38908 Mar 10, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
Do you think other six hump him night after night to educate him more on Islam ??????
I think so......itna barda chutiya with king size dhabusa pahley tou kanhi nahi dekha !<quoted text>
its probable and very possible

in the bunkers in kargil we found paki muslim corpses in compromising gay positions with each other

i mean they thought they are coming , but they didnt know they were going
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38909 Mar 10, 2013
Some one commented earlier that how come it is Islam which has problem with every religion and every religious group, while people of different religions and faiths have no problem with each and co-exist with each other in "peace".

Now look at this thread itself, how many people belonging to different religious groups are "ganging up" on me.

1. Hindus:

We have every shade of Hindus present on this thread, some of them can be categorized as:

a. Orthodox, Idol Worshipping, Cow Urine Drinking, Non Violent Hindus.

b. Orthodox, Idol Worshipping, Cow Urine Drinking, Belligerent Hindus.

c. Orthodox, Idol worshipping, History Manufacturing Hindus.

d.. Non Orthodox, Namesake, Non Violent Hindus.

e.. Non Orthodox, Namesake , Violent Hindus.

f.. Modern, non religious, philosophical Hindus.

g. Illiterate, foul mouthed, semi porno writing Hindus.

2. Christians

a. Protestant Christians.

b. Catholic Christians.

c. Modern, Atheists, Namesake Christians.

3. Sikhs.

4. Apostate Muslims.

I do not know if any Buddhist or any Jew is also present on this thread.

Against all these, I am the only Muslim who is constantly present on this thread.

This is supposed to be a Pakistani Thread, but it seems no Pakistani is a permanent visitor to this thread.

The aim of all these persons is somehow to either silence me or shut me up, so that "peace" may prevail on this thread.

QED!!

PS:

I consider myself as an Orthodox, a little to the right, educated Non Extremist and Non Violent Muslim
harminder

Gurgaon, India

#38910 Mar 10, 2013
i come from a family which has DANCED like barbarians and earned every paisa for 350 years and we won every competition there was in kathakalli, bharatnatyam, kuchipuddi and kathak. we were and are known as best bhanaands and mirasis there were ever born on this motherfking land we know as hindostan

we have cut our pajamas and made them in to kachchas and wear gajra on our wrists at any given time.

we numbered not more than 50 at any given time but entertained crowds of 5000 and even more . But we never got tired as out feet danced on ghungroos and our taal on dholkis were so deafening that the viewers fainted out of boredom but we kept dancing till the last one fell in exhaustion. Thats the power of charas and heroine.

one of my ancestors kotha is still existing in heera mandi untouched where my forefathers have been dancing since ages and their women have been fodder for hungry ghazis. Without our women to satisfy their lust, these men would have kidnapped many from mainland india but our mirasis and bhaands stopped them within their own borders. My mother's blood stained salwar still hangs in landi kotal that I visited in 2002 when I was invited to perform a mujra for tangeand rockshaw pullers benefit fund.

i can go and live there anytime but i dont feel like as pakistanis dont pay for sexual services.

The Lahori aunt munni jaan there said "sardara wapas aa jao…isee ghar mein raho aur baal khol ke dance bhi karo aur apni tehmad khol ke bhund bhi marao ..aam ke aam aur guthli ke daam"

i said " no …tum sab dhanda change kar lo fir wapas aayegey hum apni chuten marwane…naheen to phir sey bhookhmari face karni padegee"

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#38911 Mar 10, 2013
Hee...hee...hee....they would have made quite a good show case in museum ...in mummified form !
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
its probable and very possible
in the bunkers in kargil we found paki muslim corpses in compromising gay positions with each other
i mean they thought they are coming , but they didnt know they were going
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38912 Mar 10, 2013
N4 wrote:
A) Actually "MUQ" there have been many films about 9/11 ; Hollywood has been shy ,I will agree ..How do you make such a film the reawakens such pain and embarrassment ..

A1) Would the Saudis ever make a film about the Grand Mosque seizure 1979..
A2)or Pakistan the Red Mosque 2007..these surely would "not" be boring...

B)Killing O'sama was a happy day ; and the movie probably helped President O'bama to become reelected ..

C) You keep claiming Islam is a religion with a long line of prophets (peace be upon them)


C1) Where in Islam can I read about these earlier prophets :their lives and struggles ....
Ans.

a. To my knowledge, there has not been a "single" major Hollywood Film about 9/11 incident.

What is so much "pain and embarrassment" in 9/11?

How many films they made about "pearl Harbor"? Was there no pain and embarrassment there?

I know the "real reason" why Hollywood is "shy about" making film about 9/11?

Because doing so would involve making a "scale model of WTC Towers" and "Simulate" their falling down to their bases with a single Jet strike.

And this they will "never achieve" until they weaken the column of the lower floors.

So the "whole Govt. theory of 9/11 being planned and executed single-handedly by Al Qaeda would also fall to the ground"!!

The film about 9/11 would be made, may be during the times of our Children or Grandchildren, when people after knowing the truth would say "tch, tch, how simpletons were our fathers and grandfather, taken as a sucker by that "crook of the first water, GWB the Great"!!

02. Why Saudis should make film about events of 1979 Makkah problem? They are not in film making business.

Hollywood would "gladly" make such a film if they are allowed access there.

The same goes for Pakistan and LAL MASJID incident, they have hundreds and thousands of such event.

They would "gladly" give access to Hollywood to make an many films as they like!!(Otherwise you could send a few Drones to their President' palace!!)

03. Killing Osama was a "happy day" for whom? And do you think US Voters re-elected Osama for giving them this Lolly-Pop?

US voters have gone down lower in my esteem if this be true.

04. Quran tells the stories of many prophets of the old, their true stories, what they preached what response they got from their people and what happened in the end.

You would not find, however the long lists of genealogies, the obscure names, and all other "historical things" there, only the topics that matter.

Prophets whose stories are covered in Quran include:

a. Adam and Eve and Garden of Eden

b. Noah, his flood

c. Abraham, his youth and his trials and triumphs

d. Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob.

e. Joseph, his beautiful story, presented in so beautiful and concise way.

f. Moses and Aaron and their struggle in Egypt and deliverance.

g. David and Solomon,

h. Lot and his people of Sodom and Gomorrah

j. HUD and SALEH (Prophets of Arabian Peninsula)

k. Midian and the Prophet SHOAIB

m. John the Baptists and his father Zechariah

n. Jesus and his mother Mary. True Picture of Jesus as a True Prophet of God.

And of course the Last and Final prophet Mohammad.

May Allah's peace and mercy be on to all of His Prophets and Messengers.

Quran is the best and most authentic and accurate source of knowing about the teachings of past prophets.

PS:

But you should read translations and commentaries on Quran from a reputed Muslim Scholar like Abdullah Yousuf Ali and his likes.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38913 Mar 10, 2013
Observer wrote:
01. All Muslims share 9/11 blame. Muslims were cheering around the world.

The so called moderate Muslims were the ones who sat by the sidelines not cheering in public but silently gloating.

The truly outrage ones were too afraid to go public in their criticism because their lives or lives of the dear ones would be in danger.


02. MUQ What was your reaction to 9/11 and 26/11? Dare to share?
Ans.

01. I did not see "All Hindus and Christians and Jews" weeping and mourning on the eve of 9/11?

Muslims were as shocked as the rest of people on the world.

But the US Main Media "knew" within 15 minutes of the strikes as to "Who were the culprits" even without any investigations being carried on.

This is the "usual role" of the media whom the Terrorists inform first before every one getting any knowledge about it.

And that role media serves in India when there is any blast any where.

They try to "pin it" on IM, ISI, SIMI, AL QAEDA and Taliban, "almost Immediately" after the blast.

They did the same for Malegaon, Samjhauta Express, Macca Masjid and elsewhere, did they not?

It is my "challenge"….. EVERY Blast where the "media" starts broadcasting "within 15 minutes" that IM Did It, SIMI Did it or ISI did it…..has its roots in RSS Headquarter in Nagpur!!

02. My reaction to 9/11? I was sleeping when it happened.

My reaction was what is expressed in this URDU saying "MIAN KI JUTI, MIAN KA SAR"!!

Now do not tell that I am also a member of Al Qaeda?

My reaction to 26/11? Kill every one involved in the act.

PS:

Also investigate How come KARKARE was killed?

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#38914 Mar 10, 2013
Are you making a plot to claim "Gang Bang Compensation' From Bhopal government ?
MUQ wrote:
Some one commented earlier that how come it is Islam which has problem with every religion and every religious group, while people of different religions and faiths have no problem with each and co-exist with each other in "peace".
Now look at this thread itself, how many people belonging to different religious groups are "ganging up" on me.
1. Hindus:
We have every shade of Hindus present on this thread, some of them can be categorized as:
a. Orthodox, Idol Worshipping, Cow Urine Drinking, Non Violent Hindus.
b. Orthodox, Idol Worshipping, Cow Urine Drinking, Belligerent Hindus.
c. Orthodox, Idol worshipping, History Manufacturing Hindus.
d.. Non Orthodox, Namesake, Non Violent Hindus.
e.. Non Orthodox, Namesake , Violent Hindus.
f.. Modern, non religious, philosophical Hindus.
g. Illiterate, foul mouthed, semi porno writing Hindus.
2. Christians
a. Protestant Christians.
b. Catholic Christians.
c. Modern, Atheists, Namesake Christians.
3. Sikhs.
4. Apostate Muslims.
I do not know if any Buddhist or any Jew is also present on this thread.
Against all these, I am the only Muslim who is constantly present on this thread.
This is supposed to be a Pakistani Thread, but it seems no Pakistani is a permanent visitor to this thread.
The aim of all these persons is somehow to either silence me or shut me up, so that "peace" may prevail on this thread.
QED!!
PS:
I consider myself as an Orthodox, a little to the right, educated Non Extremist and Non Violent Muslim

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#38915 Mar 10, 2013
Duly noted saar. What is your opinion about London Bombing ?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
a. To my knowledge, there has not been a "single" major Hollywood Film about 9/11 incident.
What is so much "pain and embarrassment" in 9/11?
How many films they made about "pearl Harbor"? Was there no pain and embarrassment there?
I know the "real reason" why Hollywood is "shy about" making film about 9/11?
Because doing so would involve making a "scale model of WTC Towers" and "Simulate" their falling down to their bases with a single Jet strike.
And this they will "never achieve" until they weaken the column of the lower floors.
So the "whole Govt. theory of 9/11 being planned and executed single-handedly by Al Qaeda would also fall to the ground"!!
The film about 9/11 would be made, may be during the times of our Children or Grandchildren, when people after knowing the truth would say "tch, tch, how simpletons were our fathers and grandfather, taken as a sucker by that "crook of the first water, GWB the Great"!!
02. Why Saudis should make film about events of 1979 Makkah problem? They are not in film making business.
Hollywood would "gladly" make such a film if they are allowed access there.
The same goes for Pakistan and LAL MASJID incident, they have hundreds and thousands of such event.
They would "gladly" give access to Hollywood to make an many films as they like!!(Otherwise you could send a few Drones to their President' palace!!)
03. Killing Osama was a "happy day" for whom? And do you think US Voters re-elected Osama for giving them this Lolly-Pop?
US voters have gone down lower in my esteem if this be true.
04. Quran tells the stories of many prophets of the old, their true stories, what they preached what response they got from their people and what happened in the end.
You would not find, however the long lists of genealogies, the obscure names, and all other "historical things" there, only the topics that matter.
Prophets whose stories are covered in Quran include:
a. Adam and Eve and Garden of Eden
b. Noah, his flood
c. Abraham, his youth and his trials and triumphs
d. Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob.
e. Joseph, his beautiful story, presented in so beautiful and concise way.
f. Moses and Aaron and their struggle in Egypt and deliverance.
g. David and Solomon,
h. Lot and his people of Sodom and Gomorrah
j. HUD and SALEH (Prophets of Arabian Peninsula)
k. Midian and the Prophet SHOAIB
m. John the Baptists and his father Zechariah
n. Jesus and his mother Mary. True Picture of Jesus as a True Prophet of God.
And of course the Last and Final prophet Mohammad.
May Allah's peace and mercy be on to all of His Prophets and Messengers.
Quran is the best and most authentic and accurate source of knowing about the teachings of past prophets.
PS:
But you should read translations and commentaries on Quran from a reputed Muslim Scholar like Abdullah Yousuf Ali and his likes.

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#38916 Mar 10, 2013
It is the quality of the police force which decides how long it takes to close a case !

Once there was a competition between Scotland yard , Paki Police and Indian police. Question put to them was “ how much time will you take to find the terrorists in a terrorist attack ?”

Scotland Yard : Hmmmm…one week !

Indian Police: Hmmm…one month !

Paki Police: What the fck do’you mean by how do you take ??? We know the terrorists and terrors more than 10 days ahead of the event !!!

Paki Police won the competition!
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. I did not see "All Hindus and Christians and Jews" weeping and mourning on the eve of 9/11?
Muslims were as shocked as the rest of people on the world.
But the US Main Media "knew" within 15 minutes of the strikes as to "Who were the culprits" even without any investigations being carried on.
This is the "usual role" of the media whom the Terrorists inform first before every one getting any knowledge about it.
And that role media serves in India when there is any blast any where.
They try to "pin it" on IM, ISI, SIMI, AL QAEDA and Taliban, "almost Immediately" after the blast.
They did the same for Malegaon, Samjhauta Express, Macca Masjid and elsewhere, did they not?
It is my "challenge"….. EVERY Blast where the "media" starts broadcasting "within 15 minutes" that IM Did It, SIMI Did it or ISI did it…..has its roots in RSS Headquarter in Nagpur!!
02. My reaction to 9/11? I was sleeping when it happened.
My reaction was what is expressed in this URDU saying "MIAN KI JUTI, MIAN KA SAR"!!
Now do not tell that I am also a member of Al Qaeda?
My reaction to 26/11? Kill every one involved in the act.
PS:
Also investigate How come KARKARE was killed?
Dabang

New Delhi, India

#38917 Mar 10, 2013
Some borrowed characters in Copycat Muhammad's (PBUH) Quran:

1) Aadam
2) Hawwa
3) Nooh
4) Suleman
5) Ibrahim
6) Yakub
7) Isaq
8) Ismail
9) Musa
10) Dawood
11) Yusuf
12) Mariyam
13) Isa
...and many more

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#38918 Mar 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You should practice what you preach.
Your posts should have been the example of brevity.
I love when only one issue is discussed in one post. I have a trained mind and I do not like to include every thing in one post.
Didn't I tell you that I had divided my reply into two posts, apart from another one post which was a reply to a separate post of yours? I had only given point by point rebuttal to your post and had not raised any extra issues. So what is the difficultly? And in any case it is upto to you to select portions from my post and reply to it, since something is better than nothing. Rather than worrying about technicalities why don't you start replying to whichever portion you want to.

Thanks for reminding me that I should practice what I preach, but what about keeping your side of the bargain. I think you are not a firm believer in the adage, "Good things come in small packages," otherwise you would not having been posting those long Mubarakpuri posts. I think Mubarakpuri himself must be in favor of brevity, since he would not like to be known as a writer who discovered the cure of insomnia.
Dabang

New Delhi, India

#38919 Mar 10, 2013
Abraham, Moses etc did not heard even the name of Muhammad's Allah in their lifetime. They must be thinking in heaven "who was this Muhammad and who was his Allah ? This guy knows more than we know about ourselves"
harminder

Mumbai, India

#38920 Mar 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Some one commented earlier that how come it is Islam which has problem with every religion and every religious group, while people of different religions and faiths have no problem with each and co-exist with each other in "peace".
Now look at this thread itself, how many people belonging to different religious groups are "ganging up" on me.
1. Hindus:
We have every shade of Hindus present on this thread, some of them can be categorized as:
a. Orthodox, Idol Worshipping, Cow Urine Drinking, Non Violent Hindus.
b. Orthodox, Idol Worshipping, Cow Urine Drinking, Belligerent Hindus.
c. Orthodox, Idol worshipping, History Manufacturing Hindus.
d.. Non Orthodox, Namesake, Non Violent Hindus.
e.. Non Orthodox, Namesake , Violent Hindus.
f.. Modern, non religious, philosophical Hindus.
g. Illiterate, foul mouthed, semi porno writing Hindus.
2. Christians
a. Protestant Christians.
b. Catholic Christians.
c. Modern, Atheists, Namesake Christians.
3. Sikhs.
4. Apostate Muslims.
I do not know if any Buddhist or any Jew is also present on this thread.
Against all these, I am the only Muslim who is constantly present on this thread.
This is supposed to be a Pakistani Thread, but it seems no Pakistani is a permanent visitor to this thread.
The aim of all these persons is somehow to either silence me or shut me up, so that "peace" may prevail on this thread.
QED!!
PS:
I consider myself as an Orthodox, a little to the right, educated Non Extremist and Non Violent Muslim
you have infact admitted that islam has a problem getting along well with non muslims

thanks

you have also implicitly admitted that there is no "educated non extremist non violent muslim (although you claim to be one like so many other muslims)

pakistanis are there on this thread for sure. They hide behind non muslim names .They espouse the same text , point of view and opinion as held by parvez musharraf and many of their posts are pciked up from a web site called "pakistan defence"

“Kradvanto Viswam Aryam ”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#38921 Mar 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
1-- Against all these, I am the only Muslim who is constantly present on this thread.

2-- I consider myself as an Orthodox, a little to the right, educated Non Extremist and Non Violent Muslim
1-- Because no one is paid like you by SAUDI WAHHABI PROPAGANDA DEPARTMENT , for such consistent presence . We have many other duties and works .

2-- " Apane muh miyan mitthhoo " . Typical case of Narcissism - MUQ the older guy [ Budhape mai akl sathiya hi jaati hai ].
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38922 Mar 11, 2013
Dabang wrote:
Abraham, Moses etc did not heard even the name of Muhammad's Allah in their lifetime. They must be thinking in heaven "who was this Muhammad and who was his Allah ? This guy knows more than we know about ourselves"
How could they have "heard" the name of some one who was to come into the world many centuries after them?

Are you really mad?

But both Abraham and Moses would immediately recognize the word "Allah" because they spoke Hebrew.

However they would look to you blankly if you mention the name God or Jesus before them?

How weak is your scripture knowledge is self evident!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#38923 Mar 11, 2013
yaudheya wrote:
<quoted text>
1-- Because no one is paid like you by SAUDI WAHHABI PROPAGANDA DEPARTMENT , for such consistent presence . We have many other duties and works .
2-- " Apane muh miyan mitthhoo " . Typical case of Narcissism - MUQ the older guy [ Budhape mai akl sathiya hi jaati hai ].
Are you the guy who "manufactures history"?

First tell me which category of Hindus you belong to.

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#38924 Mar 11, 2013
Brather , some names are little different from the ones from Non-Muslim sources. Mohammad totlaa bhi tha kya ?
Dabang wrote:
Some borrowed characters in Copycat Muhammad's (PBUH) Quran:
1) Aadam
2) Hawwa
3) Nooh
4) Suleman
5) Ibrahim
6) Yakub
7) Isaq
8) Ismail
9) Musa
10) Dawood
11) Yusuf
12) Mariyam
13) Isa
...and many more

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