No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ... Full Story

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MILKY WAY

#31949 Nov 30, 2012
Your line of thinking that US will not leave Iran alone even if they stop nuke program seems to be correct.

Screwng these countries is a smaller section of Western grand polity-economic plan of world domination . UN is worth a sack of potatoes and as in-effective as 'League of nations' in previous form.

Do you think Iranians are making Nukes on their own ? Every step towards Nuke success has a signature of Russian collaboration! Why to ask Russia or China stop vetoing rather than telling them- just fkcng stop selling Iran Nuke Tech ? Nope ......US will not like to go around without chaddi (Note: 100 % is outsourced from Chinkuland)by starting a trade-war.

Then if you think Israel is an artificial creation of West (to be precise -UK), why Pakistan is not (considering Pak Creation Bill was passed in British Parliament )??? So Muslims will never be able to garner local support for their cause .

Now the idea is that one has to wash his own dirty linen to survive- apni gandi chaddi apney dhou ! Bhaley hi Randi O nei oosey ganda kiya hou !

Iran can be stopped by Israel alone- if they want to survive , as much as India has to capture Pak to unify and fail British design !

Outside help will be available available- as always nobody wants to help a person in a fight who can't stand on his feet even . I mean - Barat dullhey sE sajti haey !

It's not my pure imagination , as it has happened time and again.

a) Egypt kicked out Europeans over Suez Canal dispute.

Egypt stood up for the cause, many supported -India pledged 100 % support....and when France and UK were preparing for a full scale war- USSR threatened to flatten London & Pars if they take single shot towards Egypt!

It worked.....it worked well !

India wrenched off Goa ,Daman etc. from Portugal.....Portugal made a case that attack on its sovereignty is attack on NATO, and attacked India (in a way)........but Egypt closed Suez for their fleet as a support ...and those phuddus recoiled back in their shell by cutting off Diplomatic relation with India (re-opened in 2006).

Yes Israel will have to flatten Iran Nukes to survive- others can support them only . It will be repeat of history- apni gandi chaddi khud kpu dhona pardta haey !

-YAZ been here b4- wrote:
<quoted text>
Kaji the trouble is how they're gonna stop Iran when Russians and Chinese will veto whenever USA will want to go for military action against Tehran. What is the guarantee that even if Iran does rollback on it Nukes programme the Americans n Israelis will let them off the hook. Gaddafi did rollback but it still didn't save him in Libya from NATO.

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MILKY WAY

#31950 Nov 30, 2012
Bhosrdi K Budhdhey....when will you come out of HG Well's Time Machine.....and talk something relevant and useful ????
MUQ wrote:
The disbelievers, however, found it a suitable opportunity to jeer at the Muslims and their creed. They pestered the Prophet [pbuh] with questions as to the description of the Mosque at Jerusalem, where he had never gone before and, to the astonishment of many, the Prophet’s replies furnished the most accurate information about that city. He supplied them with all the news about their caravans and the routes of their camels. However, all this increased in them nothing but flight from the Truth, and they accepted nothing but disbelief.
For the true Muslims, however there was nothing unusual about the Night Journey. The All-Mighty Allah, Who is Powerful enough to have created the heavens and the earth by an act of His Will, is surely Powerful enough to take His Messenger beyond the heavens and show him those signs of His at firsthand which are inaccessible to man otherwise. The disbelievers on their part went to see Abu Bakr on account of this event, and he readily said: "Yes, I do verify it." It was on this occasion that he earned the title of As-Siddiq (the verifier of the truth).[Ibn Hisham 1/399]
The most eloquent and most concise justification of this ‘Journey’ is expressed in Allah’s Words:
"... in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, signs, etc.)" [Al-Qur'an 17:1].
The Divine rules as regards the Prophets goes as follows:
"Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth that he be one of those who have Faith with certainty." [Al-Qur'an 6:75]
To Moses, his Lord said:
"That We may show you (some) of Our Greater Signs." [Al-Qur'an 20:23]
In order that:
"He be of those who have Faith with certainty."
The Prophets, after seeing Allah’s Signs, will establish their Faith on solid certainty too immune to be parted with. They are in fact eligible for this Divine privilege because they are the ones who will bear burdens too heavy for other ordinary people to carry, and in the process of their mission, they will regard all worldly ordeals and agonies too small to care about.
There, however, remains a crucial question waiting to be answered: How could this foreseen transition of authority be effected while the champion himself (Muhammad) was left deserted and forsaken stumbling in the hillocks of Makkah? This question per se uncovered the secrets of another issue which referred to a phase of the Islamic Call and the appearance of another role it was about to take up, different in its course and noble in its approaches.…
(Abridged)
(Contd.)

Since: Aug 12

Wakefield, U.K.

#31951 Nov 30, 2012
Danda Singh wrote:
Apney badan mein khuli kaa patta maal kaar teri gaand mein ghus jaunga .......teri saari kattu confusion dur hou jaeygi !<quoted text>
Your clementia- and Jassi Singh ID has been wiped out so many more you want to bring forward? Not that anyone from your camp is missing you since you were never a man of substance but causing you damage this way is far more rewarding than anyone can imagine.
harminder

Mumbai, India

#31952 Nov 30, 2012
MAD MUSLIMS!!!

Afghan girl beheaded after refusing man’s marriage proposal
By Jeff Stacklin | The Lookout – 6 hrs ago

A 14-YEAR-OLD AFGHAN GIRL WAS BEHEADED AND KILLED IN AN ATTACK BY TWO MEN, ONE OF WHOM APPARENTLY ASKED HER TO MARRY HIM.

The attack happened Tuesday, a day before new legislation was introduced in Congress calling on the U.S. government to take steps to help protect Afghan women and girls as the U.S. military prepares to exit Afghanistan.
Gasitina, a student, was beheaded in the Imam Sahib district of Kunduz province. The attack was initially reported by local media, and was confirmed by Amnesty International researcher Horia Mosadiq in an email.
The girl was fetching water when she was accosted, according to reports. The men, who have not been identified, were arrested by police. The girl and her parents had refused a marriage proposal by one of the men, according to the Amnesty International report.
This was the 15th deadly attack on a female victim in Kunduz in 2012, the human rights organization said.
"Amnesty International is very concerned about the violations against women in Afghanistan," said Cristina Finch, director of the organization's Women's Human Rights program.
Amnesty reported a similar incident in October, when a young woman was murdered and her throat slashed. In that case, the woman apparently refused to work as a prostitute.

Although it appears such attacks are increasing in frequency, it may be that the world outside Afghanistan is just beginning to hear about them, Finch said.

ISLAM IS IN DANGER IS SHE REFUSES TO MARRY YOU…KILL HER,….."ALLAH HU KILL HRRRR"….HOWWWLLLLLLL!!!

great post

Since: Oct 12

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#31953 Nov 30, 2012
harminder wrote:
MAD MUSLIMS!!!
Afghan girl beheaded after refusing man’s marriage proposal
By Jeff Stacklin | The Lookout – 6 hrs ago
A 14-YEAR-OLD AFGHAN GIRL WAS BEHEADED AND KILLED IN AN ATTACK BY TWO MEN, ONE OF WHOM APPARENTLY ASKED HER TO MARRY HIM.
The attack happened Tuesday, a day before new legislation was introduced in Congress calling on the U.S. government to take steps to help protect Afghan women and girls as the U.S. military prepares to exit Afghanistan.
Gasitina, a student, was beheaded in the Imam Sahib district of Kunduz province. The attack was initially reported by local media, and was confirmed by Amnesty International researcher Horia Mosadiq in an email.
The girl was fetching water when she was accosted, according to reports. The men, who have not been identified, were arrested by police. The girl and her parents had refused a marriage proposal by one of the men, according to the Amnesty International report.
This was the 15th deadly attack on a female victim in Kunduz in 2012, the human rights organization said.
"Amnesty International is very concerned about the violations against women in Afghanistan," said Cristina Finch, director of the organization's Women's Human Rights program.
Amnesty reported a similar incident in October, when a young woman was murdered and her throat slashed. In that case, the woman apparently refused to work as a prostitute.
Although it appears such attacks are increasing in frequency, it may be that the world outside Afghanistan is just beginning to hear about them, Finch said.
ISLAM IS IN DANGER IS SHE REFUSES TO MARRY YOU…KILL HER,….."ALLAH HU KILL HRRRR"….HOWWWLLLLLLL!!!
great post
Isn't this what you want to do by massacring the innocent women and children? Why are you howling like a dog now?
Pakistan KAPUT !!!!!!!!
harminder

Mumbai, India

#31954 Nov 30, 2012
pakistan was created by an act of the BRITISH PARLIAMENT

and muslims call it "land of pure"

what an irony

kafirs created pakistan, therefore it must be renamed NAPAAKISTAN
The legend

Europe

#31955 Nov 30, 2012
harminder wrote:
pakistan was created by an act of the BRITISH PARLIAMENT
and muslims call it "land of pure"
what an irony
kafirs created pakistan, therefore it must be renamed NAPAAKISTAN
Bharat tumhari mata hai pakistan tumhara baap,bap se panga lia to nanga hoke danga krna parega

Since: Jul 12

Manchester, UK

#31956 Nov 30, 2012
number four wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Are you suggesting terror attacks ...are actually Governments killing their own people ...

2) The Persians have "state sponsored" terrorism

3) maybe, you are just not the responsible type

4) Saddam convinced the World he had nuclear weapons

5)America is fostering freedom and democracy in Iraq...and..Afghanistan
1- I am not suggesting that ALL terror attacks are planned by Govts but only on that particular one on 9/11 was or could well have been planned USA themselves. USA can lie and they done it before. GULF OF TONKIN was one such lie which claimed 50-60 thousand American lives so the ones who can risk 50-60 thousand lives of their own on the basis of lies why can't they do it again with 3000 and few buildings. You can ignore what I think about 9/11 but how will Americans ignore their own Engineers, Ex Govt officials, Analysts etc making the same claim that 9/11 was an inside job and with every passing year more and more number of Americans getting drawn to this point than what Americans have made everybody accept as an official version which itself is controversial and contradictory.

2- Valid point about Iran in regards to Hezbollah n Hamas but you forgot to add that USA supported Al Qaeda just very recently in Libya so what the hell is going on here? BTW what is state sponsored terrorism? To me attacking defenceless countries without any solid proof and launching illegal wars with the pack of lies is also STATE TERRORISM. This type of terrorism is far more lethal than the one that you are talking about.

3- Americans can gloat about power, wealth, influence, show of might etc but RESPONSIBILTY & MORALITY are such words where Americans will be found wanting like all superpowers before America. EK BADA CHOR KISI CHHOTE CHOR KO CHOR KAHE TO USKE MU SE YE BAAT JACHTI NAHIN.

4- Lame excuse. The world and USA knew Saddam never had any weapons but Americans defied UN and stil did what they wanted to.

5- Freedom and democracy are the masks worn by America to carry out it's agenda in this region to maintain it's grip on World affairs and to prevent China from becoming a Superpower that might challenge USA's status as a sole superpower.

Iran has far more shades of democracy than Pakistan and any of USA's Arab allies such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar. So your claim that America is fostering democracy in the region is just another lame excuse to say the least.

Since: Jul 12

Manchester, UK

#31958 Nov 30, 2012
HAJI KAJI wrote:
1- Your line of thinking that US will not leave Iran alone even if they stop nuke program seems to be correct.... UN is worth a sack of potatoes and as in-effective as 'League of nations' in previous form.

2- Then if you think Israel is an artificial creation of West (to be precise -UK), why Pakistan is not (considering Pak Creation Bill was passed in British Parliament

3- India has to capture Pak to unify and fail British design !

4- Yes Israel will have to flatten Iran Nukes to survive- others can support them only .
1- That's why Iran will pursue Nukes for their own survival as they are not used to taking dictation from the American hooliganism and have survived.

2- Have I NOT said that British were the brains behind Pakistan for their strategic interests to counter Soviets?????

3- I have argued enough on this point with you and Yaudheya so I don't need to repeat this argument again. Had I lived in the period of 1947 I probably would've voted against Partition... Period....

4- And Iran will need to have nukes for their own survival because Israelis already have them and I think they will do it.

Since: Jul 12

Manchester, UK

#31959 Nov 30, 2012
MUQ wrote:
The name Pakistan was first coined by Hindus!!
Muslim league picked it up from a Hindu Magazine!!
I will be glad to know more on this and from where did you get this information?? According to my findings the word PAKISTAN was first coined by CHOUDRY RAHMAT ALI in 1933 in his NOW OR NEVER pamphlet.

Since: Jul 12

Manchester, UK

#31960 Nov 30, 2012
harminder wrote:
pakistan was created by an act of the BRITISH PARLIAMENT
and muslims call it "land of pure"
what an irony
kafirs created pakistan, therefore it must be renamed NAPAAKISTAN
Mr Mahamurakh talk something different everybody knows this and BTW this same act of British Parliament paved the way for birth of India as a nation.

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MILKY WAY

#31961 Dec 1, 2012
Chaddi has mentioned Mughal or Mulim rule in India as Zafar listened to the Magal Pandey Ji and his followers. How misguided he is with Muslim psyche !
We hear so much about Grand British plan to convert all Indians to Christianity . Was it true ?
Take issue of gun cartridge –one of the hot topic of that time. What was it ?
All the sepoys were issued new Enfield rifles – a land mark improved gun of that time. Unlike their predecessors, the smooth barreled Brown Bess muskets , they had grooved (or rifeled) barrels. It made them more accurate with longer range. But it made loading more difficult and in order to get the ball down the barrel lotta grease was needed, as well as lot of pushing with ramrod.
General drill was – biting off the top of cartridge, pouring the powder in the rifle, then stuffing the ball and the rest of the fatty cartridge down after it with the rod.
And yes friends the fatty stuff was fat from beef or pork – made in Dumdum Arsenal by Parsi subcontractors ( and Muslim Butchers)!
Sepoys – mostly Hindoos …..alarmed Muslims saying guys , tum logo kE religion ki bhi maa chud rahi haey !
Then see the Padre Jennings and his army of missionary (his church is still there in Delhi)– they even managed to convert chutiya Zafar’s personal physician(note: regret to mention that he was a Hindoo). And converting prisoners ….was a routine.
YES INDIANS HAD A REASON , AND BRITS HAD A DEVILISH DESIGN !
Then what happened , why the rebellion failed ? Due to typical Kattu chutiyapanthi ….nothing else !
You don’t believe ? read my next post

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#31963 Dec 1, 2012
After the breakout all the rebellions rushed to Delhi……to support a Indian King ! Sepoys had only heard of Bahadur Shah Zafar – with an image of doctored advertisement . After reaching Delhi….they found oh God…..this guy -80 years old muh mein daant nahi….pet mein aant nahi calls himself a king? And then his army of princes , and salatins ? All with diverse interest- from poking gals to drinking phokat arrack but with a common charater- kata lully !

When Sepoys asked them –hey Nautankiyas we needA fight – where are your arms- they grinned and itching their pelvic, in chorus replied – here it is, permanently unsheathed one !

Just imagine Sepoys frustration- Mangal Pandey Ji was lucky not to live to see that day !
Mangal Pandey had disturbed Brits so much that slang for a rebel was Pandey for them !

Anyway brave Hindoo Sepoys took control of the situation ……first tied the Bahadur Shah to his chair ( as they knew this ‘Bahadur’ phuddu will be the first to run away…if he could). Slapped and boxed all the so called Bahadur princes of Bahadur King and ordered them to dig trenches and prepare for war.

Till that time situation was under control …..war for Delhi would have been won….but no….kattus had more katuAgiri surprises in store….. with thousands of Sepoys pouring in Red Fort….came along Jehadis …..Wahhabi ones from Tonk (Rajasthan ) are note worthy.

King Zafar was sensible- he told –Beware don’t give these mofos any fire arms – they don’t know in which direction to fire , and these mad caps may shoot me first calling me infidel – keep them away from me & let them fight with the axe and knife they have come with.

These Jehadi faction alienated Sikhs and Gurkhas as they knew Gaandu madcap kattus are bigger enemy of any religion than Brits ! So half the war was lost then & there !

Then during the fight how these Kattu Jehadi’s broke ranks and rushed to front with their axe and knife and died making mockery of themselves and putting whole Sipoy army to shame is worth reading in records.

One of them say – one Jeahdi Ghazi rushed to front , breaking ranks (he was probably given responsibility by Sepoys as camp follower- cleaning sht etc), within few feet of the Brit Trenches at Ridge (Dehli) dressed in Kattu green pagrdi, pajama kurta, kamarbahdh…wielding a antique sword and shield and howling “ Allah hou Akbar……I will kill all infiedels …..Alllah hou Akbar …..hmmmm let me check …first you surrender…and as per Sharia I will check…..whoever has no cut-piece lund I will kill them…..Allah hou Akbar ’

One Gurkha from Gen. Hudson’s platoon came out, gave him a Jhannata-dar thappard, shoot him between eye (where he had Namazi black mark) bayoneted his pelvic….and made him flat. While dropping the Jehadi was murmuring with perplexed eyes “ ooh…aaah…you infidels are crazy –first you kill then check lund”

Volumes can be read on this type of KatuA giri which made Indians down in that war !

Lastly one can say that till kattus are your allies –chances are very little that you will win any war ……may be you will meet your martyrdom before time . That’s the morale of 1857 Mutiny story !

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MILKY WAY

#31964 Dec 1, 2012
posting again ...in Chaddi friendly format !

Chaddi has mentioned Mughal or Mulim rule in India met its demise as Zafar listened to the Magal Pandey Ji and his followers. How misguided he is with Muslim psyche !

We hear so much about Grand British plan to convert all Indians to Christianity . Was it true ?

Take issue of gun cartridge –one of the hot topic of that time. What was it ?

All the sepoys were issued new Enfield rifles – a land mark improved gun of that time. Unlike their predecessors, the smooth barreled Brown Bess muskets , they had grooved (or rifeled) barrels. It made them more accurate with longer range. But it made loading more difficult and in order to get the ball down the barrel lotta grease was needed, as well as lot of pushing with ramrod.

General drill was – biting off the top of cartridge, pouring the powder in the rifle, then stuffing the ball and the rest of the fatty cartridge down after it with the rod.

And yes friends the fatty stuff was fat from beef or pork – made in Dumdum Arsenal by Parsi subcontractors ( and Muslim Butchers)!

Sepoys – mostly Hindoos …..alarmed Muslims saying guys , tum logo kE religion ki bhi maa chud rahi haey !

Then see the Padre Jennings and his army of missionary (his church is still there in Delhi)– they even managed to convert chutiya Zafar’s personal physician(note: regret to mention that he was a Hindoo). And converting prisoners ….was a routine.

YES INDIANS HAD A REASON , AND BRITS HAD A DEVILISH DESIGN !

Then what happened , why the rebellion failed ? Due to typical Kattu chutiyapanthi ….nothing else !
You don’t believe ? read my next post !

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#31965 Dec 1, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. There is a Simple answer to your long post…. What we say is based on “Information which we received from the Creator of this Universe and Life”.
“Life is a Test” can only be said by the one who Created Life. Unless you can “Prove” that You Created Life or that life created itself, all your arguments are product of your own head.
Any theory could be as reasonable or as logical or look as perfect as one desires….but it does not mean that it has to be true also!!
So what we say is based on proof from our Creator and what you are saying is from your mind, it could be true and it could be false, it depends if it is in line with what info we got from Creator or against it.
02.“Life is a test” removes all your dimensions into one most important one “How to be successful in the test”. All other dimensions pale in response to this Dimension!! So let us get importance to each dimension according to its priority.
03. Secular Laws are not sufficient to solve any problem of the world from its foundation. Because it does not has any Universal standard. That is why when two “secular countries” got o war, there is no limit to which they will not cross to win that war, even if it means extermination of another “Secular Country”!!
04. Islam brings the “total change” in human perspective to their life and what they should do to pass “The Test”!!
As usual we are back to square one. "The information from the creator" concept is past expiry date. We are living in a scientific age where even metaphysical and spiritual concepts need to be verified, if not objectively then subjectively. Otherwise we will forever be dealing with the conundrum of trying to understand whose concept of creator is right.

Just look at your own case. You blindly accepted, for whatever reasons, that koran is information from creator. For you it is an article of faith to say that all that is contained in koran is direct revelation from God. But there is a basic problem inherent in such a blind declaration of faith, and that has to do with renewal of faith. Every man from time to time, in varying degrees, loses faith in the sayings of the scriptures. A genuine religion will always have inbuilt provisions in it to allow for the renewal of man's faith in it. For example, by way of prayers, meditation and other spiritual practices, men can again rediscover their faith in the truth and validity of the scriptures. But this is only for a genuine religion.

Can the same thing be said for Islam? As long as Islam has nothing else to offer by way of validity other than parroting the line that koran is revelation from God, I'm afraid but is forced to declare that the springs of renewal in islam has long gone dry, or for that matter it never was there.

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#31967 Dec 1, 2012
Recently I came across an old friend from Denmark. He was diagnosed with Parkinson's sometime back and this time I found him in much better shape back with his good sense of humour. As I came to know, he has two electrodes implanted in head and hardwired internally . The hardwiring has a control also to change the setting with changing mood....! I was surprised seeing the medical development in his part of world , and felt happy about him.

Thinking loudly, this remedy should be recommended for Sick MUQ.........only with with much higher voltage and current---where smoke comes out from his ear !

I have a doubt if any other way-like posts- will change his mind-set !
Dragnet52 wrote:
<quoted text>As usual we are back to square one. "The information from the creator" concept is past expiry date. We are living in a scientific age where even metaphysical and spiritual concepts need to be verified, if not objectively then subjectively. Otherwise we will forever be dealing with the conundrum of trying to understand whose concept of creator is right.
Just look at your own case. You blindly accepted, for whatever reasons, that koran is information from creator. For you it is an article of faith to say that all that is contained in koran is direct revelation from God. But there is a basic problem inherent in such a blind declaration of faith, and that has to do with renewal of faith. Every man from time to time, in varying degrees, loses faith in the sayings of the scriptures. A genuine religion will always have inbuilt provisions in it to allow for the renewal of man's faith in it. For example, by way of prayers, meditation and other spiritual practices, men can again rediscover their faith in the truth and validity of the scriptures. But this is only for a genuine religion.
Can the same thing be said for Islam? As long as Islam has nothing else to offer by way of validity other than parroting the line that koran is revelation from God, I'm afraid but is forced to declare that the springs of renewal in islam has long gone dry, or for that matter it never was there.

Since: Sep 11

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#31971 Dec 1, 2012
HAJI KAJI wrote:
Recently I came across an old friend from Denmark. He was diagnosed with Parkinson's sometime back and this time I found him in much better shape back with his good sense of humour. As I came to know, he has two electrodes implanted in head and hardwired internally . The hardwiring has a control also to change the setting with changing mood....! I was surprised seeing the medical development in his part of world , and felt happy about him.
Thinking loudly, this remedy should be recommended for Sick MUQ.........only with with much higher voltage and current---where smoke comes out from his ear !
I have a doubt if any other way-like posts- will change his mind-set !
<quoted text>
No way. There is no way MUQ will change his mindset or for that matter millions of muslims like him. A major part of islamic theology is devoted to keeping the herd in check. Therefore large chunks of sayings in koran and other islamic books are devoted to subjects dealing with belief, disbelief, who is a real muslim or not, what is appropriate to think and not think. Given the fact that such obstructions are constructed against free thinking, how can you expect them to loosen up and think freely?

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MILKY WAY

#31973 Dec 1, 2012
1. Yep.....they will , my opinion was that on their own they can not !

Justification of right to have nukes depends on attitude of the people (or government)claiming for it.

Many years back Chinkus had been using gunpowder for many many years only for firecrackers and circus shows. Mongols got the tech from them and from that day it has created only havoc in the world !
Knowing Iran- the Nuke tech should be stopped to avoid WW3, as they will not have any red button to fly them.....just banaO aur thoko !

2. Regret, as I don't remember !

3. Well, that historical mistake can be corrected by endeavor towards re-unification.

4. Iran doesn't have nukes so far, so is it struggling to survive ? What a BS ! They had longest wars with their Muslim non-nuke Muslim neighbors (Iraq...?) only in modern times !

As matter of fact their going nuke will give NATO & US to install their Nuke Batteries around their slaves (Sauds etc) in vicinity and wring money for maintenance from ME (They have an economic issue to maintain these white elephants !)- in ratio of 1 :100 ! Do you think Iran's survival will be more secure at that time ?

Why to accelerate ME Muslims worlds demise by these whims ? Once oil is over anyway US will sell them Nukes flying short range, and another Lawrence of Arabia at heavy discount ! to establish 'soil to soil' argument true again!

Yes, Israel needs to nuke a nuke- Iran for survival - as established (in eye of infidel world) bad-character Iran will never sign a non-first strike treaty even to camouflage it's intentions !

-YAZ been here b4- wrote:
<quoted text>
1- That's why Iran will pursue Nukes for their own survival as they are not used to taking dictation from the American hooliganism and have survived.
2- Have I NOT said that British were the brains behind Pakistan for their strategic interests to counter Soviets?????
3- I have argued enough on this point with you and Yaudheya so I don't need to repeat this argument again. Had I lived in the period of 1947 I probably would've voted against Partition... Period....
4- And Iran will need to have nukes for their own survival because Israelis already have them and I think they will do it.

Since: Oct 12

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#31974 Dec 1, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for you comments on me to a third person. This is not nice when we are already having a discussion.
Why should you comment about to me to a third person, when I can very well answer it?
I choose not to answer it because of pornographic content in it. This is the way I deal with these people and their posts.
If they do not have enough control on their tongue and their pen and their key boards to not deal in such language, it is a wastage to time to have any serious discussions with them.
If you want to challenge me on any thing, we are already having a discussion.
You have to prove to me that alternative path, to which you want to drag me, is indeed better than to what I am holding to.
Without getting proofs, it would be foolish of me, to leave my safe home and wander in the deserts and forests with no where to go.
If we stay firm in our beliefs, it is because of reason and logic and not just it is found in our book.
Now, you want your own Universe, a place where you did not create anything, you own nothing, you only use it and benefit from it and then wants that no one should ask you to do something.
It might look reasonable and logical to you, it does not look that way to me.
A metaphor or innuendo protest is alright as long as it corresponds or carries something of its original meaning in a different setting but you protesting in pure Islamic way is not my way of life or the life I didn't want adherence to. But here you don't need to use such an innuendo, because it's completely meaningless here. Debates are lost or won when either of the opponents are incapable of giving credible replies or losers start referring to third parties as in this case my namesake has done so to Haji Kaji . It's more a question of inadequacy, incapacity rather than someone being overwhelmed by sheer Islamic Intellectual power that you harness in your words, even if that be intellectual force, need I say that he posses none. And besides it seems that you don't take the sermon in your religion seriously. Also accept my due apologies about not providing you with the luxury of L and I in my ID.

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#31975 Dec 1, 2012
Yooon-ki.....Bhopali ....do you mean Pakistan ka Nam-karan hi Haram-i tarikey sE hua tha (as per Islam)?????????

Baat mein daam haey...! No wonder Paki Kattus behave like haramis !
MUQ wrote:
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I read it in some book on this topic.
The idea of a Muslim state from those available on Indian border was in the minds of some Muslim leaders.
There was an informal meeting about that and commenting on that meeting some Hindu reporter wrote in a Newspaper owned by a Hindu Gentleman, that Muslims want to make a separate state and he used the phrase "Pakistan" i.e. land for the pure.
That is what gave rise to the name. Chowdhery Rahmat Ilahi might have used it in his speech in a formal manner, I do not deny.
But according to what I read, the name Pakistan first came from the pen of a Hindu News Reporter.

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