Northern Irish fighting rages on as rioters branded a disgrace

Jan 4, 2013 Full story: The Star Online 894

Northern Irish police came under attack by pro-British loyalists on Friday as the province's first minister branded rioters a disgrace and said they were playing into the hands of rival militant nationalists.

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Phil Macavity

Bugbrooke, UK

#1 Jan 6, 2013
Northern Ireland is still a part of the United Kingdom. The Union flag is the official flag of that body. It must fly wherever the people of that body wish it to fly.
What more is to be said ?

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Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#2 Jan 6, 2013
Phil Macavity wrote:
Northern Ireland is still a part of the United Kingdom. The Union flag is the official flag of that body. It must fly wherever the people of that body wish it to fly.
What more is to be said ?
It was decided it would be flown on designated days at Belfast City Hall due to a democratic vote at the City Council. This is democracy. It also flys only on designated days at Stormont. Again democracy. What more is to be said?
CSMD

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#3 Jan 6, 2013
shoot the scumbags, that will stop them!
humberman99

Liverpool, UK

#4 Jan 6, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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It was decided it would be flown on designated days at Belfast City Hall due to a democratic vote at the City Council. This is democracy. It also flys only on designated days at Stormont. Again democracy. What more is to be said?
who decided?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#5 Jan 6, 2013
humberman99 wrote:
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who decided?
The democratically elected members of Belfast City Council. Isn't Belfast a MAJORITY Nationalist city now anyway? Yet they were expected to look at a flag that doesn't represent them flying from THEIR city hall 365 days a year? Doesn't make any sense.....
CSMD

UK

#6 Jan 6, 2013
Poor old Alliance Party, they had the power to get rid of it all together along with SF but they decided on a compromise and they are getting abuse over it!!!

They would have been better voting to get rid of it for all the abuse they are getting!

Petty Loyalist unemployed scum!
humberman99

Liverpool, UK

#7 Jan 6, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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The democratically elected members of Belfast City Council. Isn't Belfast a MAJORITY Nationalist city now anyway? Yet they were expected to look at a flag that doesn't represent them flying from THEIR city hall 365 days a year? Doesn't make any sense.....
the Union Flag should fly as per the rules of other cities in Great Britain. I have no knowledge as to how these are worked. So if it is flown as is in other cities I have no problem.
But, the playground in Newry I have a problem with.Also the presence of the pseudo irish communists in power.
Too many dead to let that go.
humberman99

Liverpool, UK

#8 Jan 6, 2013
CSMD wrote:
Poor old Alliance Party, they had the power to get rid of it all together along with SF but they decided on a compromise and they are getting abuse over it!!!
They would have been better voting to get rid of it for all the abuse they are getting!
Petty Loyalist unemployed scum!
the Alliance way would work in the mainland, where psychos do not rule. Hence the difference.
Not the same as Cornwall, Devon etc.
well

Hamilton, Canada

#9 Jan 6, 2013
Northern Ireland is like the Middle East. It's funny because Britain was involved in the Middle East.
humberman99

Liverpool, UK

#10 Jan 6, 2013
well wrote:
Northern Ireland is like the Middle East. It's funny because Britain was involved in the Middle East.
well, I certainly will not be blaming Britain but there you go.Unless they need somewhere to park their subs if salmond has his way.
baw

Belfast, UK

#11 Jan 6, 2013
humberman99 wrote:
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the Union Flag should fly as per the rules of other cities in Great Britain. I have no knowledge as to how these are worked. So if it is flown as is in other cities I have no problem.
But, the playground in Newry I have a problem with.Also the presence of the pseudo irish communists in power.
Too many dead to let that go.
In that case, the designated days ruling follows suit with other British cities, as well as Stormont, and Buckingham Palace.
Irish

Dublin, Ireland

#12 Jan 6, 2013
You can please some of the people,some of the time.
Most of the people,all of the time.
But you can not,please all of the people all of the time.
Wisest saying ever.

I would just fly the two flags all the time,and tell them to shut up or get locked up. lol

I am not quite sure if that makes me a dictator?
paul-english

UK

#13 Jan 6, 2013
I must admit I'm finding it all quite ironic, loyalist who probably in everyday life are law abiding citizens are finding themselves insecure and fearing a loss of identity, well welcome to republican idiology, and if it ever comes to a united Ireland we will see butchers, teacher's candlestick makers fighting for the union !... terrorists or freedom fighters???
Irish

Dublin, Ireland

#14 Jan 6, 2013
paul-english wrote:
I must admit I'm finding it all quite ironic, loyalist who probably in everyday life are law abiding citizens are finding themselves insecure and fearing a loss of identity, well welcome to republican idiology, and if it ever comes to a united Ireland we will see butchers, teacher's candlestick makers fighting for the union !... terrorists or freedom fighters???
I highly doubt it somehow,most people dont have a heart for blood and murder.As we seen with the the south.They realized there was no threat or ill will to them,and they settled into Ireland and have had a lovely life.
They are scared to lose their identity?Do people lose their identity when they emigrate? I am keen to hear a reply on that.
paul-english

UK

#15 Jan 6, 2013
The Southerners are settled because they are no longer occupied and only a small percentage was prepared to fight for the north, and without a doubt hardline loyalists along with many sympathizers and youths affected by war would fight, its a mess always will be a mess so well done British foreign policy again, joke!!

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#16 Jan 6, 2013
paul-english wrote:
The Southerners are settled because they are no longer occupied and only a small percentage was prepared to fight for the north, and without a doubt hardline loyalists along with many sympathizers and youths affected by war would fight, its a mess always will be a mess so well done British foreign policy again, joke!!
What if sort of reconciliatory things are done in a United Ireland, which I would be in favour of. Such as

A new flag that represents both cultures.
A new anthem that represents both cultures.
A massive drive to get as many Protestants into the police and army as possible.
New symbology etc that represents both cultures.
New outlook on history that is respectful to both cultures and their positive influences on the island in history.

Many more things like this could be done, and I would support them in the event of a United Ireland.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#17 Jan 6, 2013
humberman99 wrote:
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the Union Flag should fly as per the rules of other cities in Great Britain. I have no knowledge as to how these are worked. So if it is flown as is in other cities I have no problem.
But, the playground in Newry I have a problem with.Also the presence of the pseudo irish communists in power.
Too many dead to let that go.
NI isn't a normal British city though. It is a city located in a part of the island of Ireland. The union flag only really represents one community, while the others don't have any official flag to represent them. Why not? The Catholics have been there longer, the Ulster-Scots are the descendants of colonial settlers, they should have some manners and ACCEPT the right of the native Irish people to be respected.....They'll be a minority soon anyway, then they'll truly have to get used to not getting their own way.....
paul-english

UK

#18 Jan 6, 2013
Yes all sounds reasonable and romantic but we both know that wont happen to our generation but the next do have a chance, and it has to start and end in education with compulsory mixed schools learning and respecting eachothers culture and history, and lets be honest they are exactly the same people just divided through no fault of there own...

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#19 Jan 6, 2013
paul-english wrote:
Yes all sounds reasonable and romantic but we both know that wont happen to our generation but the next do have a chance, and it has to start and end in education with compulsory mixed schools learning and respecting eachothers culture and history, and lets be honest they are exactly the same people just divided through no fault of there own...
Exactly, I agree with you fully.
humberman99

Preston, UK

#20 Jan 7, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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NI isn't a normal British city though. It is a city located in a part of the island of Ireland. The union flag only really represents one community, while the others don't have any official flag to represent them. Why not? The Catholics have been there longer, the Ulster-Scots are the descendants of colonial settlers, they should have some manners and ACCEPT the right of the native Irish people to be respected.....They'll be a minority soon anyway, then they'll truly have to get used to not getting their own way.....
yes, and we will all play fiddlededee music, get drunk, be neutral, name childrens playparks after psycho thugs, shoot young girls in the back after leaving Holy Mass, burn people alive because they belonged to a protestants doggie club, plant bombs in crowded streets to kill women and children,etc etc.
Lovely people. But their excuse in the British.
Truth is you are a pack of murdering scoundrels.

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