Stole meat for heroin

Dec 9, 2012 Full story: Gainsborough Today 153

A DRUG addict stole meat from a shop to pay for her heroin habit, Worksop Magistrates' Court heard on Wednesday.

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“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#1 Dec 10, 2012
Happens all the time. These people are so desperate for their next hit that they'd sell their own mothers.
rio

UK

#2 Dec 10, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
Happens all the time. These people are so desperate for their next hit that they'd sell their own mothers.
You know, don't you ?

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#3 Dec 10, 2012
Funnily enough, yes. I know more than a lot of people.
rio

UK

#4 Dec 10, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
Funnily enough, yes. I know more than a lot of people.
You sold your mother ? LOL

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#5 Dec 10, 2012
I work within the legal system as a civil servant.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#6 Dec 10, 2012
Oh, and I've never, ever taken illegal substances.

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Since: Mar 12

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#8 Dec 11, 2012
Not so bad....she didn't hurt anyone directly by mugging or burglary

......spam spiel alert......all drugs ought to be decriminalised....it would greatly reduce crime....if ppl were able to buy drugs legitimately they would be far cheaper....far cheaper would significantly reduce the crime committed to pay for them
rio

Beckenham, UK

#9 Dec 11, 2012
nathanielornament wrote:
Not so bad....she didn't hurt anyone directly by mugging or burglary
......spam spiel alert......all drugs ought to be decriminalised....it would greatly reduce crime....if ppl were able to buy drugs legitimately they would be far cheaper....far cheaper would significantly reduce the crime committed to pay for them
I agree with that.
Decriminalise drug use, but penalise drug traffic. At present most crimes only exist to pay for drugs. Organised crime, gangs and most of the underworld feed on drugs. If drug taking became a legitimate activity (like smoking, drinking, gambling) the crime level would inevitably come down.

Cannabis should be completely decriminalised and available at the chemist. Growing cannabis shouldn't be a crime anymore.

Registered drug addicts (class A) should have access to drugs administered under medical supervision in drugs clinics and be given free desintoxication programme.

Just like the prohibition of alcohol in the USA proved to be a costly failure, the heavy-handed war of drugs as it exists now has no chance of succeeding.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#11 Dec 11, 2012
the real Blunt Mocker wrote:
even at present, tobacco is legal but the growing is strictly controlled. If you allowed people to grow cannabis, even if cannabis was legal, you immediately get problems of supplying and regulation.
Drug users are whining wretches. They make out that coming off drugs is terribly hard. it is not nice but can be done, just like coming off alcohol. They should be taken off the street and put on cold turkey - controlled withdrawal is rubbish. ALL those treby druggies who get "detoxed" at expensive clinics are back on it in 6 months - that's how the clinics make money. IF you allowed cannabis to be legal, I would expect strict laws that prevent ANY cannabis user from driving cars, buses, operating machinery, or having any kind of job that needs a clear head. I have never yet come across a pot head who had much sense to begin with, and none at all after smoking it.
Cannabis is a minor drug. By allowing people to grow it legally, you immediatly take out the criminal element in the consumption of this plant. Traffic, gangs, illegal imports, etc... wouldn't make sense anymore.

Hard drugs like heroin and cocaine could be administered (not sold, not given) under supervision in drug clinics to registerd drug users who wouldn't be the pawn of drug pushers anymore and wouldn't need to commit crime just to feed their habit. Detox should be offered, but not forced. A hard drug user can almost lead a normal life for years if it has access to clean drug and administer himself properly; the entertainment industry is a good example! These people don't need to commit crime because they can afford their addiction.

Making drug addiction a medical condition, rather than a crime would cut the criminal element out of it. At the moment, BOTH users and pushers are treated as criminals. Take the "clients" away from the drug pushers, and you ruin their business. Stop the exhorbitant cost of drugs for addicts, and you will significantly reduce crime.

Once you have made a criminal out of a drug user, you take away his chance of coming off and being assimilated in society later on. Now with a criminal record, his changes are limited. Without a job, he will rejoin the criminal fraternity and go back to drug abuse. It's a vicious circle.

At the moment, you have plenty of cannabis user already in charge of vehicle, machinery, etc... Unless you are caught smoking in a vehicle, the police is more or less powerless. I am not even sure if all police stations have the test kit to detect drugs!

Being blinkered and just wanting to keep the status quo will lead nowhere. Under present legislation, the war against drug is being lost, and up to 80% of prisoners have committed a drug related crime. More of the same is just not an option...

Since: Mar 12

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#12 Dec 11, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Cannabis is a minor drug. By allowing people to grow it legally, you immediatly take out the criminal element in the consumption of this plant. Traffic, gangs, illegal imports, etc... wouldn't make sense anymore.
Hard drugs like heroin and cocaine could be administered (not sold, not given) under supervision in drug clinics to registerd drug users who wouldn't be the pawn of drug pushers anymore and wouldn't need to commit crime just to feed their habit. Detox should be offered, but not forced. A hard drug user can almost lead a normal life for years if it has access to clean drug and administer himself properly; the entertainment industry is a good example! These people don't need to commit crime because they can afford their addiction.
Making drug addiction a medical condition, rather than a crime would cut the criminal element out of it. At the moment, BOTH users and pushers are treated as criminals. Take the "clients" away from the drug pushers, and you ruin their business. Stop the exhorbitant cost of drugs for addicts, and you will significantly reduce crime.
Once you have made a criminal out of a drug user, you take away his chance of coming off and being assimilated in society later on. Now with a criminal record, his changes are limited. Without a job, he will rejoin the criminal fraternity and go back to drug abuse. It's a vicious circle.
At the moment, you have plenty of cannabis user already in charge of vehicle, machinery, etc... Unless you are caught smoking in a vehicle, the police is more or less powerless. I am not even sure if all police stations have the test kit to detect drugs!
Being blinkered and just wanting to keep the status quo will lead nowhere. Under present legislation, the war against drug is being lost, and up to 80% of prisoners have committed a drug related crime. More of the same is just not an option...
"not sold not given" how does that work then?
rio

Beckenham, UK

#13 Dec 11, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
<quoted text>
"not sold not given" how does that work then?
Drugs would only be administrated on site, and not given as a supply to take home (or resell!).

Since: Mar 12

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#15 Dec 11, 2012
rio wrote:
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Drugs would only be administrated on site, and not given as a supply to take home (or resell!).
who would pay for these drugs?

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#16 Dec 11, 2012
Why not put all the druggies on an island somewhere and airdrop them all they can take, and more.
Perhaps then, the rest of us can live in peace.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#17 Dec 11, 2012
We could also legalise mugging, burglary and a whole host of other crimes while we're at it, then there would be very little crime as it would all be legal.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#18 Dec 11, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
<quoted text>
who would pay for these drugs?
Us, the tax payer. Another way of funding the habit of chavs.

Since: Mar 12

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#19 Dec 11, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
<quoted text>
Us, the tax payer. Another way of funding the habit of chavs.
lol, i knew that i just wanted RIO/RONAN to admit he would like to take money off working people to buy drugs for low life loser's.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#20 Dec 11, 2012
the real Blunt Mocker wrote:
<quoted text>what utter tripe. You sound like a pot smoker, as they mostly spout nonsense.
Keep the blinkers on...
rio

Beckenham, UK

#21 Dec 11, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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who would pay for these drugs?
The NHS, of course. Drug addiction is a medical issue. The programme would have to be overseen by doctors, drug specialists and so on. Produced on a non-profit basis (unlike the drugs supplied by the criminals), heroine or cocaine are relatively cheap.

The offset would be that the police and the courts wouldn't spend so much money trying to enforce something that can never be enforced. I bet the prison population would decrease as well.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#22 Dec 11, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
We could also legalise mugging, burglary and a whole host of other crimes while we're at it, then there would be very little crime as it would all be legal.
Most of the mugging and burgleries are caused by the need to find money because of drug addiction.
Rich people can indulge in drugs without stealing because they can afford them. Most ordinary folks soon go broke and start stealing to finance their addiction.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#23 Dec 11, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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lol, i knew that i just wanted RIO/RONAN to admit he would like to take money off working people to buy drugs for low life loser's.
Well, I know that you prefer to spend money on useless far-away wars we are doomed to loose anyway,rather than finding solutions at home to cure social ills, but that is your choice.

I am not interested in post-imperialism, but I wish we could find a solution against drugs and crime AT HOME.

Obviously for lots of you keeping it as it is is the most comfortable position, but that doesn't seem to bring a solution, does it?

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