Is Scotland an anti Irish country or ...
American Cousin

Greenville, SC

#337 Jun 14, 2012
I don't have any sort of real European identity as I'm 5th generation American, but I have been to both Ireland and Scotland. I must say that I have found that both the Scots and Irish are charming people who will stand up for themselves. I have encountered all sorts of Celts during my many travels and for the most part I have found them cool. For the most part, I also like the English, especially the ones from the northernmost reaches of England proper. I have only recently become interested in DNA testing and I recently receivd the test results back. I was very surprised to find that my direct line was Anglo-Norman Irish (Denmark to France to England to Ireland to the USA). I do sometimes wonder if the Anglo-Norman-Celtic peoples are, in many respects, a very war-like race. They are fighters, pioneers, freebooters and adventurers. My only complaint is that they also seem to love to war with one another. Anyway, God Save both Ireland and Scotland! I'd rather see them both prosper in the 21st century. Cheers!

PS
I live in South Carolina and we have many residents who still are very proud to lay siege their Irish, Scottish or Scot-Irish heritage. The religious issue does still cause some conflict with some people; most seem to be moving further away from it. Overall, the British, Irish and Europeans are more tolerant than the rest of the world. Thank goodness for that!
Pat Magee

UK

#338 Jun 15, 2012
American Cousin wrote:
I don't have any sort of real European identity as I'm 5th generation American, but I have been to both Ireland and Scotland. I must say that I have found that both the Scots and Irish are charming people who will stand up for themselves. I have encountered all sorts of Celts during my many travels and for the most part I have found them cool. For the most part, I also like the English, especially the ones from the northernmost reaches of England proper. I have only recently become interested in DNA testing and I recently receivd the test results back. I was very surprised to find that my direct line was Anglo-Norman Irish (Denmark to France to England to Ireland to the USA). I do sometimes wonder if the Anglo-Norman-Celtic peoples are, in many respects, a very war-like race. They are fighters, pioneers, freebooters and adventurers. My only complaint is that they also seem to love to war with one another. Anyway, God Save both Ireland and Scotland! I'd rather see them both prosper in the 21st century. Cheers!
PS
I live in South Carolina and we have many residents who still are very proud to lay siege their Irish, Scottish or Scot-Irish heritage. The religious issue does still cause some conflict with some people; most seem to be moving further away from it. Overall, the British, Irish and Europeans are more tolerant than the rest of the world. Thank goodness for that!
Hear, hear! Well said that man!
shaun the brummie

Birmingham, UK

#339 Jun 16, 2012
with regards to celtic and the torbet affair...was he a paedo or paddy....i get confused.
Irish lad

Ireland

#340 Jul 19, 2012
People, including the Irish forget what the green white and gold means. Peace between the Catholics and the Protestants. At a rangers-Celtic game, I think we all agree it's a nice sentiment.
As an atheist, you are right. Catholic Ireland was not good to me. It scarred me on a similar level to the way a homosexuals might feel.
However, the republic of Ireland however has given me free education, paid my college fees and accomodation as I was too poor and paid me one of the higher rates social welfare in europe when I was looking for work. That is the same for anybody born in Ireland, whether black, white etc. I love Ireland, as it is one of the only nations that loves its citizens, and you could only undetstand it if you lived there. I myself would be nothing without it. I think that's was mean by the term "welcoming".
With regard to why we don't stay there, if Ireland had been selfish, it could have destroyed the euro by burning the bond holders for personal gain, instead the Irish did the right thing and accepted the financial responsibility for debts to keep the bond market in Europe stable. As a nation right now, we have taken a huge kick in the nutts and we are currently relying on our big brothers namely America, Britain and Austrailia to help us back up on our feet (That is always how we view you guys in case ye are wondering) So thank you britain for your patience and for allowing us to stay.
Ps, Historians argue that the meaning Scotland stems from the scotti tribe which got their name for being Irish men from the north of ireland. It is thus thought that Scotland means "Irishmanland" Obviously this doesnt mean jack to most scots or Irish but in the context of Ireland versus England, it makes things very confusing for some scots when it comes to the definition of Scotland as a free state or as a part of Britain. The history of our lands is confusing, and I would prefer to do what the germans do and forget the past and define my patriotism from the future my nation's people are gonna create.
Birmingham Is A Slum

Dumbarton, UK

#341 Aug 1, 2012
shaun the brummie wrote:
with regards to celtic and the torbet affair...was he a paedo or paddy....i get confused.
Neither, he was a protestant Rangers fan from Scotland, he also worked for Rangers.
Darragh Scully

Maylands, Australia

#342 Sep 21, 2012
Rixster wrote:
Whoopdie doo, Dublin was voted the friendliest, who voted I didnt and was never asked, do you want a medal for that?
The Catholic church is against homosexuality - FACT
And the Catholic church view people like me(Athiests) with pity, that is hilarious imagine being able to think for myself.
I view the Catholic church and all other religions with disdain, for the simple fact this God you all supposedly worship must be pretty vain if he requires people to go to a building and pray for him.
Why should Ireland remain neutral during the war?
The fact is Scots,English and Welsh died protecting Great Britain during the war, if the Nazis had invaded Britain sucessfully, where do you think they would have went next - Thats right Ireland and with you lot being pussies they could have just marched right in.
Germany did not give a toss about who was neutral, Belgium was neutral , they still invaded it.
So Its a fact the cowardly Southern Irish have a hell of a lot to thank the Scots,English,Welsh, & Northern Irish for.
I do hate Celtic, you are right but if you actually knew anything about Scotland you would know that Aberdeen hate Rangers more.
Again, I ask the question you dont seem to be able to answer.
If the racism and treatment in Scotland towards Irish people or people of Irish descent is so bad.
Why the fuck are they still here?, there is no faimine any more, or maybe their treatment has not been that bad and they are just indulging in a bit of what they are well known for - Whining
Brave, whats brave got to do with it. The South of Ireland was poor and could not afford to send soldiers or equipment. They were poor because of a thousand years of Tyranny had come to an end. We are mostly glad those days are over. As for the Irish, there are over 70 million people who claim Irish Ancestry. If you want to know about brave just think about all the Brave Irish Americans whom Island hopped with the United States Army and Marines and guys like Robert McNamarra that made Dresden look like a camp fire (just google fog of war if you know what I mean).

If you feel insulted by that it would not surprise me. I'm sure your own version of history suits you fine. I think that argument over who saved who's butts in world war 2 cant be won by arguing about it. What about a plastic paddy comment to help win your argument while your at it. I prefer the Data as Irish Rob puts it. Yet you can go on for days about Irish Terrorists, Cancelling NOR Aid, while going on about how brave your lot were in covering up lots of massacres all over the world because its easy to label someone a terrorist even though what they were doing was no where near as bad as what we all might endure in a ww2 scenario. I think you know what I mean.

bla bla bla who cares have a dime.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4...
Darragh Scully

Maylands, Australia

#344 Sep 21, 2012
I hope the disadvantage is eroded by a prosperous future that we can now foresee as Irish men knowing that we are Strong, Useful and Resourceful and worthy of Respect even from our worst enemies.
Darragh Scully

Maylands, Australia

#345 Sep 21, 2012
'we have not begun to fight' John Barry.
Bonedogster

Europe

#346 Oct 26, 2012
I was doing some research for college when I came across this thread and I have to say it was one of the most scariest things I have ever come across . To the bigots you donít even know youíre history. Thousands of men (90,000 approx) from the Irish republic fought in 2nd world war. Both my granduncles fought and died in WW2 . While a lot of Irish emigrated to Scotland it worked both ways , Northern Ireland is full of people of Scottish descent , about 100,000 were planted there by the English between 1607-1697.
Thatís not my opinion that actual historical fact .
I think it absolutely bizarre that anyone would support their football team over there country . I find it absolutely bizarre that Irish tricolours are displayed at Celtic football matches . Itís a Scottish football team for Godís sake . I find it bizarre that the Scotish Football Association has a football team called ďHibernianĒ. Hibernian =Latin for Ireland.
I totally agree with Rixster that if you have emigrated to a country you should integrate , ie when in Rome do as the Romans do. But the same can be said of Northern Ireland , where the imported Majority of Scots do/did not mix with the original inhabitants.
Why can you all just forgive the past and move on for the betterment of both Ireland and Scotland . We have so much in common .
Real

Dublin, Ireland

#347 Nov 5, 2012
This thing about the Irish going home because the famine is over,what about the people of Scottish descent in ireland
Haggismuncher

Ireland

#348 Nov 22, 2012
''The famine is over why don't you go home''

Well the Ulster plantations are over too. Haha how long are they up there now, 300-400 years? Still not Irish?

How about they go home first?

Lest we forget, the Scots came to Ulster and were given stolen land in their droves in the 1600's and 1700's. The famine happened in the 1840's.
Haggismuncher

Ireland

#349 Nov 23, 2012
The Scots seem to forget we Irish civilised them.
Haggismuncher

Ireland

#350 Nov 23, 2012
They should be grateful we wiped out most of their country and civilised what was left of them.

If not, they would still be engaging in unspeakable activities with barnyard animals. The goat in particular seemed to be the fancy of many a Scotsman and Scotswoman for that matter.
Peter

Dublin, Ireland

#351 Dec 1, 2012
The impact of the Ulster Plantations in the early 17th century have been greatly exaggerated.
The vast majority of Ulster Scots in Ireland were escaping famine and dire poverty in Scotland in the late 17th century.This was 150 years before the Irish famine.
Rangers fans would do well to remember this.
Buck Rogers

Cambridge, UK

#352 Jan 7, 2013
I'm Irish & have lived & work in the UK for the last 25 years.

InFor 10 months in 2009/2010 I worked 2-3 days a week in Glasgow on contract and whilst there met both some of the nicest & nastiest people you'd ever want to meet. There is a very sizable percentage that seriously hate the Irish & also hate Catholics. I personally found that these people are usually miserable fcukers anyway & pretty much hate everyone & everything, but they do reserve a special place for the Irish & Catholics.

My wife is English & before I met her she visited a university friend from Glasgow & this being the late '80's she went to the fancy dress party that Saturday night as Madonna - with a big crucifix around her neck.(She's not Catholic). She still retells the outright hatred she faced for wearing a crucifix. Blokes in her face shouting, screaming, swearing. Needless to say she left & has never been back & has no intentions of ever going back.

Glaswegian's in particular will, on meeting a fellow Scot often ask "what school did you ye go to?". What they're really asking is about religion.

Relatives from Ireland went to a wedding in the Scottish Borders in 2011. They were invited by the Bride. A small number of the Bride's family were very kind to them, couldn't do enough. The rest however wouldn't speak to them and were visibly disturbed to be in the same room as an Irish person.

As I said at the top I've met loads of Scots who are great fun & have no time for anti-this or anti-that. I've had some great nights out in Glasgow, even going to a Ranger's game with a Ranger's season ticket holder & cheering them on in European game.

Come on Scotland, stand up to these people who show your great country up so badly!
fraoch

UK

#353 Jan 18, 2013
Too many scots were "imbecilled by Saxons"!! Sorry!! But Poverty led to m any things!! Go to highland SCOTS though and things are changing!! ALBA GU BRATH!!! SAOR ALBA !! xxxxxx
fraoch

UK

#354 Jan 18, 2013
"BUCK"I could repeat the same as you when I go to visit fmily in Eire an Ulster! No part of "OUR WORLD" is different?? x
fraoch

UK

#355 Jan 18, 2013
Please visit Dumfries and Galloway for unbiased scot/englander and Prod/Catholic!!! You will LOVE the place!! Auld Rabbie Burns Country!!!
irish_bob

Ireland

#356 Jan 20, 2013
Buck Rogers wrote:
I'm Irish & have lived & work in the UK for the last 25 years.
InFor 10 months in 2009/2010 I worked 2-3 days a week in Glasgow on contract and whilst there met both some of the nicest & nastiest people you'd ever want to meet. There is a very sizable percentage that seriously hate the Irish & also hate Catholics. I personally found that these people are usually miserable fcukers anyway & pretty much hate everyone & everything, but they do reserve a special place for the Irish & Catholics.
My wife is English & before I met her she visited a university friend from Glasgow & this being the late '80's she went to the fancy dress party that Saturday night as Madonna - with a big crucifix around her neck.(She's not Catholic). She still retells the outright hatred she faced for wearing a crucifix. Blokes in her face shouting, screaming, swearing. Needless to say she left & has never been back & has no intentions of ever going back.
Glaswegian's in particular will, on meeting a fellow Scot often ask "what school did you ye go to?". What they're really asking is about religion.
Relatives from Ireland went to a wedding in the Scottish Borders in 2011. They were invited by the Bride. A small number of the Bride's family were very kind to them, couldn't do enough. The rest however wouldn't speak to them and were visibly disturbed to be in the same room as an Irish person.
As I said at the top I've met loads of Scots who are great fun & have no time for anti-this or anti-that. I've had some great nights out in Glasgow, even going to a Ranger's game with a Ranger's season ticket holder & cheering them on in European game.
Come on Scotland, stand up to these people who show your great country up so badly!
i had the great misfortune of finding myself having to answer to a viscious bigot from the scottish borders while overseas for the first time way back in 1998 , i was working down under and young and naive

the level of vitriol , unconditional contempt and foaming at the mouth hatred from this charming lady was a sight to behold and something which haunts me to this day , i would never trust a scot , anti catholicism has always been the cornerstone of the presbyterian faith , its in them

its no coincidence why irish people didnt meet anything like the same level of sectarianism when they went to england and wales ,majority of people in those parts of the uk are either anglican or methodist , an unpleasant people
Haggismuncher

Ireland

#357 Jan 24, 2013
The filthy pig ignorant scots shuld thank the Irish for civilising them

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