Why Germany's giving Russia a bearhug

Why Germany's giving Russia a bearhug

There are 55 comments on the www.csmonitor.com story from Feb 4, 2010, titled Why Germany's giving Russia a bearhug. In it, www.csmonitor.com reports that:

As Europe debates how to handle a restless Russia on its eastern flank, one country continues to strengthen its ties to the east: Germany. Not all of Germany's neighbors are thrilled about Germany's partnership with the large bear that has more than once threatened gas supplies to the chilly continent. But for Germany, which sees itself as an agent to draw Russia westward and extend commerce, it is a natural move.

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Jacko

Lake Forest, IL

#1 Feb 4, 2010
Germany needs energy in various forms. For being so small it is a powerhouse of a country. Russia is the perfect solution.
Red

Sudbury, Canada

#2 Feb 4, 2010
Yes. Getting that gas is what it is all about.
Anti-Pipeliner

Põlva, Estonia

#3 Feb 4, 2010
FSB and SVR have been successful to infiltrate the German political and economical elites. Russian ruling KGB-Gazprom gang de facto controls German policies.

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#4 Feb 4, 2010
Jacko wrote:
Germany needs energy in various forms. For being so small it is a powerhouse of a country. Russia is the perfect solution.
Exactly! Russia and Germany complement each other.

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#5 Feb 4, 2010
Red wrote:
Yes. Getting that gas is what it is all about.
I can't see anything wrong with that.

Who wants to fall out with a supplier?

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#6 Feb 4, 2010
Anti-Pipeliner wrote:
FSB and SVR have been successful to infiltrate the German political and economical elites. Russian ruling KGB-Gazprom gang de facto controls German policies.
Even if it was true, what would be wrong with that?

Washington influences many countries, but I don't see you objecting to that. Why ?
American Dood

Endicott, NY

#7 Feb 4, 2010
Last time Russia and Germany allied they started world war II.... im just saying

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#8 Feb 4, 2010
American Dood wrote:
Last time Russia and Germany allied they started world war II.... im just saying
And America has started several wars since, but you don't comment on that.

Why?
David

Tucson, AZ

#9 Feb 4, 2010
American Dood wrote:
Last time Russia and Germany allied they started world war II.... im just saying
Wow looks like you love being wrong today. First about Chernobyl being in Russia, now this. It was a Non Aggression Pact. Not an alliance. Both of the sides were confidant that they were going to break the non aggression pact in time, Hitler did it first. So even if in your eyes a NAP is an alliance, it was only a façade to buy each side more time to prepare. If Nazi Germany and USSR actually formed an alliance there would be no Europe as we know it today.
Abe UG

Yorktown Heights, NY

#10 Feb 4, 2010
American Dood wrote:
Last time Russia and Germany allied they started world war II.... im just saying
lol

Interesting.

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#11 Feb 4, 2010
David wrote:
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Wow looks like you love being wrong today. First about Chernobyl being in Russia, now this. It was a Non Aggression Pact. Not an alliance. Both of the sides were confidant that they were going to break the non aggression pact in time, Hitler did it first. So even if in your eyes a NAP is an alliance, it was only a façade to buy each side more time to prepare. If Nazi Germany and USSR actually formed an alliance there would be no Europe as we know it today.
Absolutely spot on!!

But the Russophobes don't like to hear that, and much prefer to smear Russia with this business of 'alliance'. Most of them don't even know the meaning of alliance.
Ugly Gang Scumbag Hunter

United States

#12 Feb 4, 2010
Abe UG wrote:
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lol
Interesting.
CSW!

Howdy Brother Abe!! Ready for the blizzard?? Now, we are supposed to get TWO FEET OF SNOW !! Ha! We went to the Shop Rite market today, one of the Giant ones to get some food and other supplies..I have never seen it so packed and almost bare of goodies. They actually have a food convey coming in the morning to re-stock....
kristina28

Hamburg, Germany

#13 Feb 5, 2010
I don`t see a problem.
We can do business with russia, why not ?
It`s not only because of gas.
We have good relations with russia, they are not our enemy, so what`s wrong with you ?

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

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#14 Feb 5, 2010
I´d say, you knackwursts are friendly with Russians because you are afraid of being beaten again.

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#15 Feb 5, 2010
kristina28 wrote:
I don`t see a problem.
We can do business with russia, why not ?
Of course you don't. One needs to understand the polish/baltic/ukrainian mentality to see the problem.
Shortly speaking, they're at war with Russia and russians. And consider all the EU as their allies. And they think Germany is a traitor if it doesn't fight Russia but tries to do business instead.
kristina28 wrote:
We have good relations with russia, they are not our enemy, so what`s wrong with you ?
But you supposed to be the enemy! The fact that Germany feeds the Eastern Europe isn't enough.
See they even reward nazis in order to attract Germany in their trenches.

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#16 Feb 5, 2010
Pesky army wrote:
I´d say, you knackwursts are friendly with Russians because you are afraid of being beaten again.
Well Germans used to be perfect soldiers.
Dunno how they feel, but i personally would hate to be at war against Germany.

Since: Jan 09

Novokuznetsk

#17 Feb 5, 2010
Besides of political actions, German people seem OK to me.
So do Poles.
Although in both countries there are russophobia users, i.e. those who use it in their interests. In Poland, a famous TV series about WWII called "Four tankers and a dog" was once banned in 2006 as a thing that "blackens Polish history". Later, the power changed and to everybody's pleasure the series were brought back.

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

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#18 Feb 5, 2010
bycha,
you´d hate to be in conflict with anybody, just one flick and most likely you will hide.

Since: Sep 07

Izhevsk, Russia

#19 Feb 5, 2010
Pesky army wrote:
bycha,
you´d hate to be in conflict with anybody, just one flick and most likely you will hide.
You mean i look here like a shy and timid boy?
That surprised me a bit.

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#20 Feb 5, 2010
kristina28 wrote:
I don`t see a problem.
We can do business with russia, why not ?
It`s not only because of gas.
We have good relations with russia, they are not our enemy, so what`s wrong with you ?
Ukrainians, Poles and Balts feel neglected by the rest of Europe and don't like it having good relations with Russia.

They thought that Europe would be very interested in them and take over their anti-Russian cause.

Europe doesn't.

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